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04-05-14 12:36 PM
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Ok, i'm planning on making a website, and i need a few tips.. Can anybody help me out?
Ok, i'm planning on making a website, and i need a few tips.. Can anybody help me out?
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Um... what kind of website are you planning to make first?
Um... what kind of website are you planning to make first?
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A website like this (Not exactly like this, more like the bare bones )
A website like this (Not exactly like this, more like the bare bones )
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That's still pretty vague, but anyways, I'd suggest studying HTML, CSS, PHP, Javascript, MYSQL and JQuery(this one's optional). It's impossible to make a website/forum without at least learning the coding languages involved "by heart". I've already been studying HTML and CSS for years and the other languages ever since I started college (I'm currently a 3rd year computer science major), but despite all of that, I still find it hard to make a completely functional website from scratch specially if database is involved.
That's still pretty vague, but anyways, I'd suggest studying HTML, CSS, PHP, Javascript, MYSQL and JQuery(this one's optional). It's impossible to make a website/forum without at least learning the coding languages involved "by heart". I've already been studying HTML and CSS for years and the other languages ever since I started college (I'm currently a 3rd year computer science major), but despite all of that, I still find it hard to make a completely functional website from scratch specially if database is involved.
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(edited by Juliet on 04-05-14 02:17 PM)    

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I'm not an expert in making websites however I am quite knowledgeable in code and am currently studying programming and scripting as a course.

What you will need to learn (or I recommend you learn) would be these few languages: jQuery, Java and depending on what website you want to make either PHP or MYSQL. But on top of all of those you need to learn HTML/CSS. That's what you will use to design your website.

Java and jQuery will make your website more interactive and actually add some of the main features. But just as Juliet said jQuery is a little bit more optional and you actually need to learn a lot about coding before you can make a website just like that. Try taking computer science if you want to learn more on this depending on what grade you're in.

I'm not an expert in making websites however I am quite knowledgeable in code and am currently studying programming and scripting as a course.

What you will need to learn (or I recommend you learn) would be these few languages: jQuery, Java and depending on what website you want to make either PHP or MYSQL. But on top of all of those you need to learn HTML/CSS. That's what you will use to design your website.

Java and jQuery will make your website more interactive and actually add some of the main features. But just as Juliet said jQuery is a little bit more optional and you actually need to learn a lot about coding before you can make a website just like that. Try taking computer science if you want to learn more on this depending on what grade you're in.

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04-06-14 03:36 AM
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I sincerely don't recommend java specially if you're just starting out and don't want to venture into application design and programming, better stick with PHP and Django (Python-based) instead.

Java is not the same as javascript.

Javascript is for website interactivity and Jquery is like it's updated version, so without understanding Javascript, you can't fully understand Jquery. Javascript is a scripting language.

Java on the other hand is a programming language. It's often used to make web applications but can also be used for website functionality, but then again, it's not totally recommended; there are languages that are far more suited for web designs than java and it's not also for website interactivity but more on website application interactivity.

With all of that said, I really suggest you start something small first, maybe make an offline web page with pure and simple HTML coding, then from there add some contents, play around with basic html tags, tables, formatting... add a little bit of CSS... worry about those two first. You can try codecademy for learning HTML and CSS, I think they also have javascript.
I sincerely don't recommend java specially if you're just starting out and don't want to venture into application design and programming, better stick with PHP and Django (Python-based) instead.

Java is not the same as javascript.

Javascript is for website interactivity and Jquery is like it's updated version, so without understanding Javascript, you can't fully understand Jquery. Javascript is a scripting language.

Java on the other hand is a programming language. It's often used to make web applications but can also be used for website functionality, but then again, it's not totally recommended; there are languages that are far more suited for web designs than java and it's not also for website interactivity but more on website application interactivity.

With all of that said, I really suggest you start something small first, maybe make an offline web page with pure and simple HTML coding, then from there add some contents, play around with basic html tags, tables, formatting... add a little bit of CSS... worry about those two first. You can try codecademy for learning HTML and CSS, I think they also have javascript.
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So you want to make a gaming fansite of some sort? Definitely take some time to learn some HTML and CSS, and familiarize yourself with Adobe Dreamweaver and Fireworks as well, these programs will help you through all the mundane parts of HTML/CSS, so you don't have to code them by hand, but they do *not* replace coding skills.

You'll also want to familiarize yourself with Javascript and/or Flash if you want your website to be interactive with its visitors in any way. Simple things like games and user pages will require this knowledge. If you want to have a forum, you could make your own, but that's at a pretty advanced level, so you should probably stick with either linking to an InvisionFree or ZetaBoards forum, or maybe using a very simple setup from phpBB3 or vMachines.

You're also going to need some place to host your website. I'd start out by using a third party, because getting your own server and a server-class internet connection is not cheap. There are plenty of free places out there to host your website, such as Webs, but they don't offer a lot of hard drive space or bandwidth, and they'll put ads on your site of which you get none of the revenue. You can get pretty cheap hosting plans and domains from 1&1 or from Dreamhost, those would be my top recommendations, but feel free to peruse Google for something that might fit your needs a little better.

If you want to make any means of money from your website, look into using Google AdSense. You also might want to look into some Search Engine Optimization (SEO) tips and tricks, but don't do anything black hat, because that's naughty.

I ran a small media website from 2005 to 2008 while I was in high school. It was fun, but it was a lot of work with the upkeep. The best thing I took out of it was a lot of skills that allowed me to skip nearly every day of class in my beginner Computer Science classes in college, and still pass with flying colors.
So you want to make a gaming fansite of some sort? Definitely take some time to learn some HTML and CSS, and familiarize yourself with Adobe Dreamweaver and Fireworks as well, these programs will help you through all the mundane parts of HTML/CSS, so you don't have to code them by hand, but they do *not* replace coding skills.

You'll also want to familiarize yourself with Javascript and/or Flash if you want your website to be interactive with its visitors in any way. Simple things like games and user pages will require this knowledge. If you want to have a forum, you could make your own, but that's at a pretty advanced level, so you should probably stick with either linking to an InvisionFree or ZetaBoards forum, or maybe using a very simple setup from phpBB3 or vMachines.

You're also going to need some place to host your website. I'd start out by using a third party, because getting your own server and a server-class internet connection is not cheap. There are plenty of free places out there to host your website, such as Webs, but they don't offer a lot of hard drive space or bandwidth, and they'll put ads on your site of which you get none of the revenue. You can get pretty cheap hosting plans and domains from 1&1 or from Dreamhost, those would be my top recommendations, but feel free to peruse Google for something that might fit your needs a little better.

If you want to make any means of money from your website, look into using Google AdSense. You also might want to look into some Search Engine Optimization (SEO) tips and tricks, but don't do anything black hat, because that's naughty.

I ran a small media website from 2005 to 2008 while I was in high school. It was fun, but it was a lot of work with the upkeep. The best thing I took out of it was a lot of skills that allowed me to skip nearly every day of class in my beginner Computer Science classes in college, and still pass with flying colors.
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These guys are really steering you down the wrong road. Not that their advice isn't good (Well, the bit about Flash and Java aren't so great) but they're telling you this like you have to do all of it before you even start making a site. If you try to do that you'll just get burnt out. Just learn how to use some basic HTML first, then when you want to do something that pure HTML won't let you do, branch out to other scripting languages. It'll take time but at least you'll have something to show off in the interim.

As for knowing this stuff "by heart" like Juliet says... Well, for some people that works, but for most professionals I've met, we know a lot of it, but still keep references around because it's impossible to know everything, and stuff you don't use all the time gets forgotten. That's okay.
These guys are really steering you down the wrong road. Not that their advice isn't good (Well, the bit about Flash and Java aren't so great) but they're telling you this like you have to do all of it before you even start making a site. If you try to do that you'll just get burnt out. Just learn how to use some basic HTML first, then when you want to do something that pure HTML won't let you do, branch out to other scripting languages. It'll take time but at least you'll have something to show off in the interim.

As for knowing this stuff "by heart" like Juliet says... Well, for some people that works, but for most professionals I've met, we know a lot of it, but still keep references around because it's impossible to know everything, and stuff you don't use all the time gets forgotten. That's okay.
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Lazio Falconi: That may be good advice, but i think everybody has a different way of making a website
Lazio Falconi: That may be good advice, but i think everybody has a different way of making a website
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He is right though. Trying to make your very first website look and behave like, say, MMOHut is a serious challenge for a beginner.

My biggest recommendation is to take a class on basic website building strategies. I think the first one I ever had to make for my first computer class was one page with a paragraph of text and 3 images. Super, super simple, but for someone who has never tried any sort of computer language before, it might be a little challenging.
He is right though. Trying to make your very first website look and behave like, say, MMOHut is a serious challenge for a beginner.

My biggest recommendation is to take a class on basic website building strategies. I think the first one I ever had to make for my first computer class was one page with a paragraph of text and 3 images. Super, super simple, but for someone who has never tried any sort of computer language before, it might be a little challenging.
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The biggest piece of advice is this: Don't be discouraged if your site isn't where you want right away. Most people started with simple Geocities sites that had no content and even fewer visitors. It takes time and effort to build a community, but if you try hard, you can do it!
The biggest piece of advice is this: Don't be discouraged if your site isn't where you want right away. Most people started with simple Geocities sites that had no content and even fewer visitors. It takes time and effort to build a community, but if you try hard, you can do it!
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Hey I just wanted to check up on you and see how you were doing on your site. Have you been working on it? Do you have any ideas yet? Have problems come up?
Hey I just wanted to check up on you and see how you were doing on your site. Have you been working on it? Do you have any ideas yet? Have problems come up?
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Truth be told, i have not.. I should get to it, but i just can't
Truth be told, i have not.. I should get to it, but i just can't
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