becerra95 : added it in


pokemon x : that's a fair enough point if you can edit one to be ready for that you can start getting one ready if you want if not I'll have to get on that before I completely forget again

If we are going to include the "one post per day in a thread" then sandwich posting is perfectly allowed, in my opinion. That new rule allows a wide gap of time for people to reply before you're actually allowed to reply back, and to me the fact nobody else replies is out of the user's control thus any sandwich posting is accidental. If we see several occasions in which it's not accidental then we can talk again, but for starters I'd let it be.

As for the staff advantage in the CP jerseys, like we said, nothing we can do about it. It can't be kept up manually, either by the users themselves or by the staff team monitoring results, and not awarding CP isn't an option either because how much someone contributes to this site shouldn't be limited by a competition. So yeah, only David himself can do something about it.

I'm not keen in making the DQ discussion public, because it can be used rather badly. With the rules as they are right now I think it's pretty clear when does someone break them and be DQed. And while we may need to be swifter and better at communicating, when at all feasibly possible, I don't see how exactly would a public thread help in that. I only see it as another thread people can post in, and enlarge posts with details to not bet DQed while at the same time enhancing word count. To me it's not necessary, but if everyone's in for it I'm open to being proven wrong.

EX Palen : Just a note on the Public DQ thread discussion is that everyone would have access to view but only staff+ can post in it. Which is possible to setup without David having to code something new.

https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=105138

I know you can post in this thread but for example that forum above is what can be done.

SonicOlmstead : another thing, it’s just for preference to myself, if someone is not competing and is posting multiple times on a thread, then it shouldn’t affect them competing for future TdV right? Like he or she isn’t competing, should we make that clear so there won’t be a misunderstanding between both parties? Because like I said I’m most likely not competing in January due to work and you know how much I like to post and be passive aggressive on most users and all. Should I just go “hey losers I’m not competing so write me off this scrub” or just get the DQ’s and not worry about any future repercussions?

Hey long time no see!

I did skim through a lot of the posts so if any of the points are redundant ignore them or let me know so i can just edit it out whenever.

A simple question first though,
Are you asking what changes you think would work in the spirit of the TDV being a competition, stuff like fairness, clarity of ruling and the dq's that come from it and so on. OR are you asking how can we make the TDV more fun?

For the first part i totally agree with the 1 post per day per thread. Or at least enforce it on certain forums. I know i'm not active here but nothing dulls the brain and the want to compete more than just the simple spam of elimination type threads for example. It's lazy word count that anyone can do in 10 seconds and nobody actually truly cares what someones choices are. (also i mean this jokingly, but it'd stop people using multiple accounts to inflate their posts by replying to themselves to avoid double posting *plays x files theme song*)

The reason i asked for the clarification is that simply put if people are being super competitive (which they often do on TDV) it inevitably leads to breaking some of the more lenient or harder to define rules.

Heck if you really want to consider the suggestion of DQ's not being month long.... just remove 10 points on any jersey their rule breaking gave them an advantage on.. The upside is that it'll make people more observant of the rules they may be close to breaking, the downside is that it's more tedious work for mods.

As for the fun part. It's always going to be harder to have fun when the userbase is so limited. More people = More competitive people, means more challenge/enjoyment and more people to interact with. I don't really have a way to make it more fun currently. I do think enforcing the 1 post per day per thread would work to make it more fun. or at the very least make users contribute more in terms of discussion and thread creation perhaps.

Also random quesiton as i'm here and i don't want to make a thread for it.
Has anyone considered a game highscore jersey? y'know who can get the high score on this game for this day etc. More mod work i know and it'd probably have to be tallied manually but /shrug

Anyways this was the mumbling of a passerby. Take care

sonicmcmuffin : Heyo it's been a while!

I was asking for both truthfully and I also was trying to work on clarifying things cause I noticed we had a lot harder time defining the rules last go around on when they were broken or not or thinking something was pushing it but wasn't in the rules. As far as I know a game highscore jersey hasn't been considered but I imagine wouldn't be able to happen for a long time since it'd involve coding from david though getting the rgr involved in a way is an idea I like.

As for the removing 10 points idea while I think it would be interesting I have no idea on how much David would have to do with that but it's definitely interesting.

1. Not a fan of the One post per day in certain threads as that can lead to other rules being broken. Until a few years ago elimination, hangman, and ABC games were closed during the TDV and I think it should go back to being like that. Because of the nature of those kinds of threads, you could also move them to Crazy House and have them fall under the CH rule.


2. Just like how the gray banner was added for veterans, I think it would be cool if there was a new banner that was exclusively for staff.

3. I think it would be more fair to more users if the final hour of the day rules are changed. Maybe make it a two hour window or change the %.

okay I'm sure the suggestions are probably closed now and even though it's not a rule I do feel that the seven pointer thing should be brought up in the inaugural posts for newbies that suddenly find themselves in the competition (something Postman brought up in the TdV thread)

I think a rule us that you shouldn't be allowed to make posts that nobody is interested in, or you have to get 1 or 2 responses yo get points. Because someone could make a post about types of dust. I don't really know though, this thread was made over a year ago, but just a suggestion.

Maybe I should have suggested an amnesty day regarding the tour and posting in Vizzed Ville South

I like the idea that if you mess up and get a DQ action you should be warned first before being DQ. Sometimes it is easy to make a mistake due to life or just not paying attention. An Amnesty day could be that you get a warning, but also get a chance to explain. If the person keeps doing it despite getting a warning than that is when they should be DQ

Can we just be more stricter? No warning, no second chance, be back more of “read the rules before you compete” type deal? They can’t read they shouldn’t participate. They cry when they get DQ, guess what? Read the rules before crying. I’m just saying everything can be avoided with standards set and clarity

I would like to see more of an enforcement on blantant spamming or word padding.
I know the site activity has gone down quite a bit, but this TdV, as well as the surprise one earlier this year... it's just been so painful to see it. It's almost like the TdV doesn't mean anything any more. It essentially feels like a spam fest these days.

Whether or not other people reply doesn't determine the value of the post. Reviews and walkthroughs are arguably the most valuable and high-quality posts on the site, and they rarely get replies. I think you should be free to discuss what you'd like, even if other people aren't as interested in it as you are.
Dauntez :

tornadocam : I think there generally is some leniency with minor / first time offenses. I know for sure that last April there were instances where we gave people warnings instead of DQing them. It's generally a case-by-case decision, and I think that's probably the best way to do it. If someone is blatantly or intentionally breaking the rules, they shouldn't get off scot-free. But if it's a mistake, or if an obscure rule was broken, I think a warning is sufficient. You also have to keep in mind that basically everyone who is active on the site nowadays has been here for years, so the "I didn't know" defense doesn't apply very often unless it's a new rule or a rule that rarely comes up. I do generally agree with what you are saying, though.

thing1 : The TdV has always been a spam fest, it's not just "these days" lol. The problem with rules against "spamming" and "word padding" is that they are subjective. I could be accused of "word padding" because I type a lot, but I'm not intentionally doing it for the increased word count. This is just how I write. I'm a yapper. If it is truly blatant spam or word padding (i.e. has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, is complete nonsense, etc.) then the post's words will be ignored and a warning/DQ will be handed out. But if the only basis for calling something "spam" is that it's written differently from how most people write, or the person labeling it "spam" doesn't like the post, that is not a valid reason for action to be taken.