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Hello everyone I've graduated last December 2016 and I'm currently searching for a software developer job. I've applied to around 10 companies, 4 invited me for exams and interviews, and then 2 ended up giving me a job offer so far. I'd be declining the first offer since I don't like where my career would end up if I take the job (their job post is quite misleading. It seems like they want a database admin and not a software developer the way the hiring manager talks about the job. Still, I went through the whole hiring process in case I don't get any other offers.)


Now here comes the weird part: The second company who gave me the job offer invited me for a programming exam (Java). It's a smallish company with around 50 employees. I waited for the HR for around 2 HOURS before she arrived in the office (the exam was scheduled at 8am, I arrived at 7:30am and she arrived at around 9:30am), and then another 30 minutes for her to set up the laptop I'd be using for the exam. They gave me 10 problems to solve with 2 bonus problems, and I was basically sitting in their conference room the whole day.


QUESTION 1: Is it normal to have that kind of LONG exam for hiring purposes? She didn't give me a time limit but instead just asked me to write the time when I finished. I ended up solving 9/12 problems (1 bonus), and while I have ideas on how to solve the other 3, my brain is just screaming "THAT'S IT. THAT'S ENOUGH." and I'd just have to stop for my sanity's sake.


Now after 3 hours, she texted me that I passed the Java exam and they'd like to schedule an interview with me the next day. I thought that was an interview with the hiring manager, which was usually the case with my other interviews. When I arrived, I saw someone in the conference room (whom I've assumed is the manager or the owner given the company size). The HR went inside the conference room with my resume while I waited at the lobby and glanced at them once in awhile since the wall was made of glass. Their conference room wasn't exactly sound proof so I've been hearing some fragments of speeches, leading me to conclude that she might have been briefing the manager about my resume since I've been hearing words like "university", "live project", and "exam score". I've been reading my resume and preparing for a hiring manager interview mentally, then suddenly they both went out of the conference room. I thought the manager was supposed to greet me and offer me a handshake (and I was about to offer my hand) but suddenly he bolted out of the office straight to the corridor and pressed the elevator button. No eye contact, no handshake, no "hi", na-da. I think my jaw dropped down for a bit.


The HR then asked me to go inside the conference room. Little did I know that she was already going to discuss the job offer. I mean, really? I think it's been going too fast, I haven't even spoken with the manager yet, and the time they've used up talking to one another about my resume, I should have just talked with the manager about my credentials instead of her, but okayyy... I also had no qualms about her offer since I'm a fresh grad and more concerned about the job experience I'd get from them, but then she asked if I have other pending applications with other companies and if I have other JO's. I answered truthfully and said yes, but I don't have a formal JO copy yet since they're doing batch processing with other yearly fresh grad recruits (it's a pretty big company) and they're not done with the interviews yet. However, they've already asked me to keep my required documents ready for the contract signing.


Then the HR asked what is my preferred salary range. I told her a pretty smallish range and that the amount that they're willing to give me is within the bracket. Then she asked me how much was the offered salary from the other company, I said the real amount and that it was higher than their offer (which is I'm expecting anyway since they are just a small company. I don't think they'd be able to match the offer from a bigger company). After a few more minutes of talk, she told me she'll send me a copy of the JO through email by tomorrow. When I checked the email, the offer got bumped up to the same amount offered by the first company. Apparently, they decided to increase the amount. (But then again, I didn't counter offer, and I told her they were already within my desired range) but I guess they decided to bump it up anyway. They also included a non-taxable allowance so their offer is now actually a bit higher than the first company.


QUESTION 2: Is it normal for an entry level to not get interviewed by the manager?


QUESTION 3: Can fresh graduate normally counter-offer? I might have been thinking wrongly that I'm a fresh grad so I don't really have much of a reason and enough technical skills to counter. But then, while it didn't happen explicitly, I think they took it as me wanting to counter since I already have an offer with a higher price tag.


QUESTION 4: I'm seriously weirded out by the whole process, but I like the job role and the description, plus I've already seen how they work, the office vibe, and the people seem to be all nice. I've been able to chat with some of them for a little bit when 3 of them decided to eat their lunch in the conference room and I was there. They offered me some food and they said they were aware that I was already waiting for hours in the lobby before the HR came. They also asked me stuff like what position I'm applying to. It's a software services company which I think could give me the skills and experience I'm hoping for. The job range is also nice for the sake of experience (apparently, I'll also do tech analyst job, implementation support and QA from time to time) and I think I'd be able to grow both technically and personally. With that in mind as well as their weird hiring process, do you think I should accept the job?


QUESTION 5: I felt like the hiring process was weird, but maybe it's just because I'm still a fresh grad with limited interviewing experiences? For those of you who are already in the industry for years, is their hiring process weird, or does it really happen regularly?
If you've read up until this point, thank you soooo much for reading!
Hello everyone I've graduated last December 2016 and I'm currently searching for a software developer job. I've applied to around 10 companies, 4 invited me for exams and interviews, and then 2 ended up giving me a job offer so far. I'd be declining the first offer since I don't like where my career would end up if I take the job (their job post is quite misleading. It seems like they want a database admin and not a software developer the way the hiring manager talks about the job. Still, I went through the whole hiring process in case I don't get any other offers.)


Now here comes the weird part: The second company who gave me the job offer invited me for a programming exam (Java). It's a smallish company with around 50 employees. I waited for the HR for around 2 HOURS before she arrived in the office (the exam was scheduled at 8am, I arrived at 7:30am and she arrived at around 9:30am), and then another 30 minutes for her to set up the laptop I'd be using for the exam. They gave me 10 problems to solve with 2 bonus problems, and I was basically sitting in their conference room the whole day.


QUESTION 1: Is it normal to have that kind of LONG exam for hiring purposes? She didn't give me a time limit but instead just asked me to write the time when I finished. I ended up solving 9/12 problems (1 bonus), and while I have ideas on how to solve the other 3, my brain is just screaming "THAT'S IT. THAT'S ENOUGH." and I'd just have to stop for my sanity's sake.


Now after 3 hours, she texted me that I passed the Java exam and they'd like to schedule an interview with me the next day. I thought that was an interview with the hiring manager, which was usually the case with my other interviews. When I arrived, I saw someone in the conference room (whom I've assumed is the manager or the owner given the company size). The HR went inside the conference room with my resume while I waited at the lobby and glanced at them once in awhile since the wall was made of glass. Their conference room wasn't exactly sound proof so I've been hearing some fragments of speeches, leading me to conclude that she might have been briefing the manager about my resume since I've been hearing words like "university", "live project", and "exam score". I've been reading my resume and preparing for a hiring manager interview mentally, then suddenly they both went out of the conference room. I thought the manager was supposed to greet me and offer me a handshake (and I was about to offer my hand) but suddenly he bolted out of the office straight to the corridor and pressed the elevator button. No eye contact, no handshake, no "hi", na-da. I think my jaw dropped down for a bit.


The HR then asked me to go inside the conference room. Little did I know that she was already going to discuss the job offer. I mean, really? I think it's been going too fast, I haven't even spoken with the manager yet, and the time they've used up talking to one another about my resume, I should have just talked with the manager about my credentials instead of her, but okayyy... I also had no qualms about her offer since I'm a fresh grad and more concerned about the job experience I'd get from them, but then she asked if I have other pending applications with other companies and if I have other JO's. I answered truthfully and said yes, but I don't have a formal JO copy yet since they're doing batch processing with other yearly fresh grad recruits (it's a pretty big company) and they're not done with the interviews yet. However, they've already asked me to keep my required documents ready for the contract signing.


Then the HR asked what is my preferred salary range. I told her a pretty smallish range and that the amount that they're willing to give me is within the bracket. Then she asked me how much was the offered salary from the other company, I said the real amount and that it was higher than their offer (which is I'm expecting anyway since they are just a small company. I don't think they'd be able to match the offer from a bigger company). After a few more minutes of talk, she told me she'll send me a copy of the JO through email by tomorrow. When I checked the email, the offer got bumped up to the same amount offered by the first company. Apparently, they decided to increase the amount. (But then again, I didn't counter offer, and I told her they were already within my desired range) but I guess they decided to bump it up anyway. They also included a non-taxable allowance so their offer is now actually a bit higher than the first company.


QUESTION 2: Is it normal for an entry level to not get interviewed by the manager?


QUESTION 3: Can fresh graduate normally counter-offer? I might have been thinking wrongly that I'm a fresh grad so I don't really have much of a reason and enough technical skills to counter. But then, while it didn't happen explicitly, I think they took it as me wanting to counter since I already have an offer with a higher price tag.


QUESTION 4: I'm seriously weirded out by the whole process, but I like the job role and the description, plus I've already seen how they work, the office vibe, and the people seem to be all nice. I've been able to chat with some of them for a little bit when 3 of them decided to eat their lunch in the conference room and I was there. They offered me some food and they said they were aware that I was already waiting for hours in the lobby before the HR came. They also asked me stuff like what position I'm applying to. It's a software services company which I think could give me the skills and experience I'm hoping for. The job range is also nice for the sake of experience (apparently, I'll also do tech analyst job, implementation support and QA from time to time) and I think I'd be able to grow both technically and personally. With that in mind as well as their weird hiring process, do you think I should accept the job?


QUESTION 5: I felt like the hiring process was weird, but maybe it's just because I'm still a fresh grad with limited interviewing experiences? For those of you who are already in the industry for years, is their hiring process weird, or does it really happen regularly?
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I help hire people as part of my job since I run a business with 18 employees.

In no particular order:

1. That was rude that they did not apologize, nor that they were prepared to have you in and performing whatever tests you had to do as part of the hiring process. I don't have any programmers but the people that come in for an 8:00am start time get their interview or process started at 8:00am, barring traffic or someone slowed down for any reason. It is by no means an hour wait, or we would apologize profusely. Everything is also in place prior to their arrival. I wouldn't make you wait while I set something up after I showed up late.

2. It may or may not be normal. I'm the most in charge person and I try to talk to everyone who's an incoming applicant. Sometimes I have other things going on so my leadership will take the lead and interview them. If I can at least say hello, I do. But it doesn't always happen. It's neither bad nor good. Maybe he had stomach problems that day.

3. Yes, you can and should counter-offer. It shows you know what the market value of the position is and you are bold enough to command your own fate with the compensation package. Ask for more. Negotiate for money. Get paid. They want to see that. That's why they matched the other company, so you wouldn't be stolen away and that's the fair market value.

To answer 4 and 5, you just have to ask yourself: What are you going to learn and how will they develop you to get better and continue your career path? It's all about the skills you will pick up and the experience working with people that will help you in two, five, and ten years.

Those are the most important questions to ask: Will they help you get better so you can do what you want within your career trajectory? If yes, then take the offer. If no, walk.

Good luck.
I help hire people as part of my job since I run a business with 18 employees.

In no particular order:

1. That was rude that they did not apologize, nor that they were prepared to have you in and performing whatever tests you had to do as part of the hiring process. I don't have any programmers but the people that come in for an 8:00am start time get their interview or process started at 8:00am, barring traffic or someone slowed down for any reason. It is by no means an hour wait, or we would apologize profusely. Everything is also in place prior to their arrival. I wouldn't make you wait while I set something up after I showed up late.

2. It may or may not be normal. I'm the most in charge person and I try to talk to everyone who's an incoming applicant. Sometimes I have other things going on so my leadership will take the lead and interview them. If I can at least say hello, I do. But it doesn't always happen. It's neither bad nor good. Maybe he had stomach problems that day.

3. Yes, you can and should counter-offer. It shows you know what the market value of the position is and you are bold enough to command your own fate with the compensation package. Ask for more. Negotiate for money. Get paid. They want to see that. That's why they matched the other company, so you wouldn't be stolen away and that's the fair market value.

To answer 4 and 5, you just have to ask yourself: What are you going to learn and how will they develop you to get better and continue your career path? It's all about the skills you will pick up and the experience working with people that will help you in two, five, and ten years.

Those are the most important questions to ask: Will they help you get better so you can do what you want within your career trajectory? If yes, then take the offer. If no, walk.

Good luck.
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Do more research on the company, sometimes programmers like yourself are being used to help solve problems that others in the current company couldn't find out. Anyway I never seen any company with that sloppy workflow and how they treat people or setting things up, this might be a sign of bad management since laptops are not great to protect information. The only time I see an employer use a laptop would be to show everyone of something for a meeting not an all in one solution like a desktop.

your 2th and 3th question is answered by ghostbear, i rarely see anyone in the manager side.

4th: what? they let employees talk to you? what if they given out information on the project. Are they even watch to see if any work is done? i'm not saying this is bad but what is their policy on this or does the company not care. Well i'll go with ghostbear and say you choice if you want to keep learning. if it was me i reject them since many things seems odd.

5) no it is weird what they did, no company i have been never been this late or allowed employees to talk to me while doing other things.
Do more research on the company, sometimes programmers like yourself are being used to help solve problems that others in the current company couldn't find out. Anyway I never seen any company with that sloppy workflow and how they treat people or setting things up, this might be a sign of bad management since laptops are not great to protect information. The only time I see an employer use a laptop would be to show everyone of something for a meeting not an all in one solution like a desktop.

your 2th and 3th question is answered by ghostbear, i rarely see anyone in the manager side.

4th: what? they let employees talk to you? what if they given out information on the project. Are they even watch to see if any work is done? i'm not saying this is bad but what is their policy on this or does the company not care. Well i'll go with ghostbear and say you choice if you want to keep learning. if it was me i reject them since many things seems odd.

5) no it is weird what they did, no company i have been never been this late or allowed employees to talk to me while doing other things.
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1. No,that is not normal. You may have to wait 15-20 minutes,30 minutes maximum. But not 2 hours. And they did not bother to explain themselves or apologize for the inconvenience. That is unprofessional.

2. A lot of times a manager will do the interview,although at times they can delegate that to someone else. HR is usually when you have questions about something.

3. You probably could,but considering you just got out of school,it is probably better that you did not. Right now,getting a job is almost like landing a record deal. Now,when your anniversary date comes up,then you could negotiate. By that time,you have an idea of how things go and you will be better prepared.

4. I cannot blame you for being a little perturbed by it all. The other employees seem decent enough and I would accept the job. That does not mean you cannot look for better offers while working. Think of this as a means to an end. We all use someone in some capacity.

5. It was weird and I would not have liked it at all. But as ghostbear and I have said,use this as a means to an end. Right now,you probably have some student debt,maybe a credit card balance that is not where you want it to be,and you are just starting out.

If you have not received any better offers,I would say take it. Just remember,be on the lookout for better opportunities and use these guys to reinforce what you learned. See if they offer anything on bettering your skills later on.
1. No,that is not normal. You may have to wait 15-20 minutes,30 minutes maximum. But not 2 hours. And they did not bother to explain themselves or apologize for the inconvenience. That is unprofessional.

2. A lot of times a manager will do the interview,although at times they can delegate that to someone else. HR is usually when you have questions about something.

3. You probably could,but considering you just got out of school,it is probably better that you did not. Right now,getting a job is almost like landing a record deal. Now,when your anniversary date comes up,then you could negotiate. By that time,you have an idea of how things go and you will be better prepared.

4. I cannot blame you for being a little perturbed by it all. The other employees seem decent enough and I would accept the job. That does not mean you cannot look for better offers while working. Think of this as a means to an end. We all use someone in some capacity.

5. It was weird and I would not have liked it at all. But as ghostbear and I have said,use this as a means to an end. Right now,you probably have some student debt,maybe a credit card balance that is not where you want it to be,and you are just starting out.

If you have not received any better offers,I would say take it. Just remember,be on the lookout for better opportunities and use these guys to reinforce what you learned. See if they offer anything on bettering your skills later on.
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1. No, that's not normal. The longest I have ever had to wait was half an hour, and that was because they double booked my time, and the person who went before us went over, because they offered them a job on the spot. 
2. It really depends on the company. With it being such a small company, it might be because they are busy. But, since they offered you a job on the spot, that is a good sign. 
3. It does not matter what kind of job, whether it's Burger King, Manager at Wal-Mart, or CEO or Well's Fargo, you have the right to counter their pay offer, as well as benefits. Since they gave you the increase to match the first offer that you weren't going to accept anyways, I would see if you could possibly discuss the benefits package. Now, you may have to come down a little bit on the salary, but, if the benefits come out the way you want to, you would essentially be saving more money, which means making more money. 
4. With everything going, the unprofessionalism, the vibe you're getting, I'm going to assume that it was just a bad time when you came in. I would try to make it to where you have a 60 to 90 "trail" option, where, if you are not comfortable, you can terminate your contract with no repercussions. This would not only give you some security because you could be the one to terminate your contract, but you could also determine if maybe it's the higher ups that are bad, or if they staff were instructed to try to "sell" you on the company. As of what you have told us, this either sounds like a really good place where they were just busy on those days, a decent place with bad higher ups, or a place with a bad turnover rate. I'd take the job, but only if you are comfortable with your contract, and you have that added sense of security. 
5. I have had some weird things. Most of the time, I didn't get hired. But, the one that really got me on my feet was the weirdest. I had to drive 3 hours (I was living with my aunts at the time, because my parents had no room for me) to this interview. The person who interviewed me turned out to be the 2nd in charge of the area. He asked me why by pants weren't tucked in, and why my belt wasn't a certain color. I knew it was a test, but wasn't sure why. So, I asked him what was the purpose of the test, and he said it was to determine how I would react in case somebody pulled some "stupid sh##" on me, and because he was a veteran as well, so he asked questions that I could at least relate to in some way. I explained that I didn't have a lot of money, that I was disabled, but could definitely do the job. After 10 minutes of sitting down, I was offered my choice of 3 job locations. I ended up choosing the lowest paying of the 3 because it was the easiest of the 3 security officer positions, and I didn't feel that I could physically handle all the walking the other 3 were going to require. Within 2 hours of showing up, I was given an offer, a signing bonus so I could go back to my aunts, move my stuff, and find an apartment that was closer than 3 hours away. I was also given 2 weeks to start, since my situation was a bit strange. 


What I suggest is cover your butt. Make sure you're safe. Because, it's going to look really bad if this does turn out to be a place with a high turnover rate, and you get fired after a few weeks. Make sure you have some kind of security. 
1. No, that's not normal. The longest I have ever had to wait was half an hour, and that was because they double booked my time, and the person who went before us went over, because they offered them a job on the spot. 
2. It really depends on the company. With it being such a small company, it might be because they are busy. But, since they offered you a job on the spot, that is a good sign. 
3. It does not matter what kind of job, whether it's Burger King, Manager at Wal-Mart, or CEO or Well's Fargo, you have the right to counter their pay offer, as well as benefits. Since they gave you the increase to match the first offer that you weren't going to accept anyways, I would see if you could possibly discuss the benefits package. Now, you may have to come down a little bit on the salary, but, if the benefits come out the way you want to, you would essentially be saving more money, which means making more money. 
4. With everything going, the unprofessionalism, the vibe you're getting, I'm going to assume that it was just a bad time when you came in. I would try to make it to where you have a 60 to 90 "trail" option, where, if you are not comfortable, you can terminate your contract with no repercussions. This would not only give you some security because you could be the one to terminate your contract, but you could also determine if maybe it's the higher ups that are bad, or if they staff were instructed to try to "sell" you on the company. As of what you have told us, this either sounds like a really good place where they were just busy on those days, a decent place with bad higher ups, or a place with a bad turnover rate. I'd take the job, but only if you are comfortable with your contract, and you have that added sense of security. 
5. I have had some weird things. Most of the time, I didn't get hired. But, the one that really got me on my feet was the weirdest. I had to drive 3 hours (I was living with my aunts at the time, because my parents had no room for me) to this interview. The person who interviewed me turned out to be the 2nd in charge of the area. He asked me why by pants weren't tucked in, and why my belt wasn't a certain color. I knew it was a test, but wasn't sure why. So, I asked him what was the purpose of the test, and he said it was to determine how I would react in case somebody pulled some "stupid sh##" on me, and because he was a veteran as well, so he asked questions that I could at least relate to in some way. I explained that I didn't have a lot of money, that I was disabled, but could definitely do the job. After 10 minutes of sitting down, I was offered my choice of 3 job locations. I ended up choosing the lowest paying of the 3 because it was the easiest of the 3 security officer positions, and I didn't feel that I could physically handle all the walking the other 3 were going to require. Within 2 hours of showing up, I was given an offer, a signing bonus so I could go back to my aunts, move my stuff, and find an apartment that was closer than 3 hours away. I was also given 2 weeks to start, since my situation was a bit strange. 


What I suggest is cover your butt. Make sure you're safe. Because, it's going to look really bad if this does turn out to be a place with a high turnover rate, and you get fired after a few weeks. Make sure you have some kind of security. 
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1- Its hard to say if that is excessive or not, but it is kinda unprofessional to not offer up an explanation, as Oldschool said.

2- Not always. The purpose of HR is to hire and some managers would rather leave it up to them to handle it.

3- Always counter-offer. If you let them determine your salary, they will always try to get you for the lowest possible amount. You won't be paid what you are worth and its harder down the line to get what you deserve after you're hired.

4- If its what you want to do and what you studied for, take the job. Nothing is really keeping you there, so you can look for other things if you don't like it.

5- The hiring process varies from company to company, so you shouldn't let that deter you from taking the job if it looks like something you might enjoy.
1- Its hard to say if that is excessive or not, but it is kinda unprofessional to not offer up an explanation, as Oldschool said.

2- Not always. The purpose of HR is to hire and some managers would rather leave it up to them to handle it.

3- Always counter-offer. If you let them determine your salary, they will always try to get you for the lowest possible amount. You won't be paid what you are worth and its harder down the line to get what you deserve after you're hired.

4- If its what you want to do and what you studied for, take the job. Nothing is really keeping you there, so you can look for other things if you don't like it.

5- The hiring process varies from company to company, so you shouldn't let that deter you from taking the job if it looks like something you might enjoy.
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Thank you for all the advice, I've asked to meet the dev manager first before signing the contract since I have technical questions about the work or business processes as a whole and they were happy to comply. Apparently, that time when I was supposed to be interviewed, a client asked for a meeting concerning additional features to the product and they also asked for the dev manager to come along. He was not informed right away so he scheduled our first interview on that day.

As for the hiring decision, they've already decided to give me the job offer during their deliberation (apparently right after I went out the office). They checked my exam answers and resume, and when they decided the results were satisfactory, they evaluated my character and culture fit. One of the devs who offered me food in the conference room was actually their senior Java dev (I'm not sure if she's the only senior Java dev though, but apparently they have a total of 4 senior devs in the whole company) and she said I seemed to be a good fit during their deliberation.

It might have been a weird a experience and I'm not quite sure about their HR's competency, but at least the devs seem to be pleasant and dependable, and I can see myself working with them as I grow and learn. I won't be working with the HR in a team after all so I won't take their unprofessionalism as a complete negative. However, if I have been applying for an administrative job where I'd need to interact with the HR regularly and multiple times a day, I'd basically rescind my application right after waiting for 2 hours for the exam.

I accepted the job offer and I'll be starting this Monday. *crosses fingers* But of course I'll keep my eyes open for other opportunities. I checked the JO document and they don't have any form of bonds for entry level positions, so I can easily quit if needed.

mastergame : I took a peak at the files and applications in the laptop (I shouldn't be doing that but I can't help it, lol) and it just seems to be barebones for me. It seems like it's only being used for exams and presentations. I've seen my terminal and they'll be issuing me a desktop with 2 monitors in my cubicle. Same set up with everybody. As for the employees who talked to me during lunch, they haven't told me any sensitive information. They just casually said that the exam was different compared to the problems they got when they were applying, but yes, It's kind of weird having people talk to you while taking an exam.

thing1 : Yes. Definitely weird... but thankfully you got the job despite that test the interviewer pulled off.
Thank you for all the advice, I've asked to meet the dev manager first before signing the contract since I have technical questions about the work or business processes as a whole and they were happy to comply. Apparently, that time when I was supposed to be interviewed, a client asked for a meeting concerning additional features to the product and they also asked for the dev manager to come along. He was not informed right away so he scheduled our first interview on that day.

As for the hiring decision, they've already decided to give me the job offer during their deliberation (apparently right after I went out the office). They checked my exam answers and resume, and when they decided the results were satisfactory, they evaluated my character and culture fit. One of the devs who offered me food in the conference room was actually their senior Java dev (I'm not sure if she's the only senior Java dev though, but apparently they have a total of 4 senior devs in the whole company) and she said I seemed to be a good fit during their deliberation.

It might have been a weird a experience and I'm not quite sure about their HR's competency, but at least the devs seem to be pleasant and dependable, and I can see myself working with them as I grow and learn. I won't be working with the HR in a team after all so I won't take their unprofessionalism as a complete negative. However, if I have been applying for an administrative job where I'd need to interact with the HR regularly and multiple times a day, I'd basically rescind my application right after waiting for 2 hours for the exam.

I accepted the job offer and I'll be starting this Monday. *crosses fingers* But of course I'll keep my eyes open for other opportunities. I checked the JO document and they don't have any form of bonds for entry level positions, so I can easily quit if needed.

mastergame : I took a peak at the files and applications in the laptop (I shouldn't be doing that but I can't help it, lol) and it just seems to be barebones for me. It seems like it's only being used for exams and presentations. I've seen my terminal and they'll be issuing me a desktop with 2 monitors in my cubicle. Same set up with everybody. As for the employees who talked to me during lunch, they haven't told me any sensitive information. They just casually said that the exam was different compared to the problems they got when they were applying, but yes, It's kind of weird having people talk to you while taking an exam.

thing1 : Yes. Definitely weird... but thankfully you got the job despite that test the interviewer pulled off.
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