This topic is regarding Quiet Chaos statements towards FF2 in the "FF1 and FF2 thread" i previously posted. This statement is directed essentially towards him/her.

Okay, You seem to have strong opinions regarding most of the Final Fantasy titles but have supplied no strong arguement nor reason for any of them except FF2 and that isn't even a valid statement, its a biest opinion.

I strongly disagree with you. Final Fantasy has progressed as far as it does for several reasons but mainly for one. In every FF there is a different method of customizing and upgrading your characters. Each and everyone is different. Its like saying FFX sucked because the battle system was completely different from the rest of the series. Yet you didn't say that for some reason, although FFX battle system does stray incredibly from the rest of the series. I would gladly give details if you desired.

FF2 was ONLY THE SECOND in the series and introduced the idea of changing battle systems with each game. A VERY experimental idea at the time. I think you fail to realize what they may have been trying to do.

FF3 also changed a great deal from FF1 and FF2 as well in that it is the first to use job points. A completely new idea at the time.

Next we have FF4, the first to establish actual story based characters while using previously designated jobs and a skill system that is strictly learned by specific characters, also the only FF to date where you can have 5 characters at a time.

FF5 reused the idea of job points while still retaining actual story based characters (unlike FF3 where your characters mean little to the story like FF1) and a skill learning system.

FF6 was truely the mile stone in this skill devoloping endevure. The Idea of getting "espers" and learning all of your magic from them at certain percents and having elements/attributes drawn from your equipment and equipped espers.

Okay now here is where I make my point yet again. You are not seeing what they were trying to here. You say FF7 didn't make it upto par with the rest of the series. Well lets step back and look at what we had to compair to in the rest of the series. This is THE FIRST FF to have fully 3D graphics or any at all for that matter. So again, the idea was VERY experimental at the time. Plus, the system the FF7 introduced was truely genious. Where they for the first time sacrifice the strong use of equipment, they make up for it by allowing you to basically fully customize the skill development of all of your characters through the materia system. Although this also is the first time the FF series has only seen 3 characters in battle.

From here on out, the battle system and skill development completely changes each time.

FF8 uses the GF system where you not only customize the GFs but the characters as well by junctioning the abilities/elements/attributes learned by the GFs to fully customize how your character can be used. Obviously aside from the capabilities given to the character from the beginning.

FF9, also done very well. It reestablishes the idea of a 4 character party seems and reuses the full use of equipment. Not only this but as you well know im sure, the skill learning system is quite unique where you learn everything through your equipment.

FFX was one of the breaking points of Final Fantasy. In its release, it offered some many new features it wasn't even funny. Although they, for some reason, sacrificed a largely significant piece of FF games; that being a world map you may actually travel on. But where they have lost this aspect, they offer the sphere grid, the in-battle character change feature, controlling of Aeons, etc.

Need I go on? Im sure you get my point by now. Every FF has a different method of offering the RPG experience to you in there own way, and each is done very well in my opinion. You seem to have unwitingly picked out 2 of the only experimental FF games in the entire series to rag on. Where instead you should be praising them.

Well, you are indeed still entitled to your opinions; just consider what I say before you regard these titles as less significant. : )

Thank you all for your time.

That's a very good point. You also forgot to mention in FF 2 that whatever skills you used in battle the most is what you gained. i.e. always atttacked= get stronger,but weaker magic; always use magic= stronger magic, but less strong phy. attacks; take a lot of damage= more hit points. It had one of the most unique leveling systems I have seen. It actually made a lot of sense.

Thank you for bringing that up, im glad we see eye to eye friend. I was merely trying to open some peoples eyes to the greater realm of originality that exists in final fantasy that people may over look.

Final Fantasy set many standards for originallity. Final Fantasy and Zelda were two of the few games that required you to think back in the early days.

And about my previous post for others reading this thread. The leveling system made so much sense, because if a person used magic attacks all the time then what would they be good at? Hmm, well magic of course. If a person was attacked and damaged a lot, what would happen? He would be tougher and have more hit points. I think that system made the most sense out of any battle systems I have seen in traditional rpgs.

I haven't played FF 3, where did you play it? If it was a rom site could you PM me a link?

FF3 has yet to be released, but it will be for the DS in upcomming months. (Once I get this, I'll officially own FF1-FFX)

Although if you're lucky enough, you can find translations available for the NES rom, some are horrible though.

FF2 is great in my opinion. I've been playing it more than FF1 ever since I got Dawn of Souls for the GBA. It's supposedly a very improved version of the game, altering the level up system, but regardless, it really seems like a great game.

I love the magic system. You get scrolls, and can put them on anyone. Therefore if you really wanted too, you could go through the game with everyone being a Black Mage, or so.

I think you do bring up good points. (But, for future note, I'd recommend you break your post into paragraphs so it's easier to read. )

I wish more people respected FFIV.

i Have taken note to your comment and I have edited the post accordingly. As for the FF3 thing, I have gottem most of the way through it on the NES version with a reasonably good translation and part the way through it with a rather crap Wonderswan translation.