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11-04-12 05:51 PM
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I could imagine if this wasn't legal 

Davideo7 : Would say, "Quick! Leggy! Close this thread, the kid's father is bound to be a cop!!!! They're onto us!" Anyways, Vizzed is totally legal...
I could imagine if this wasn't legal 

Davideo7 : Would say, "Quick! Leggy! Close this thread, the kid's father is bound to be a cop!!!! They're onto us!" Anyways, Vizzed is totally legal...
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11-06-12 09:00 AM
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Lazlo Falconi : consoleclassix does similar to what I do and they even charge money. Nintendo was going to take them to court but than Nintendo dropped the charges for some reason, maybe something to do with how consoleclassix owns a backup copy of every game and even multiple copies of games where more than 1 user can play the same game. Vizzed doesn't go to their extent but maybe eventually I'll get a lawyer and try to legalize this stuff better. But I know that Sega and Atari know of this site and I'm pretty certain that Nintendo and others do as well but no one besides Atari has asked me to take down games.
Lazlo Falconi : consoleclassix does similar to what I do and they even charge money. Nintendo was going to take them to court but than Nintendo dropped the charges for some reason, maybe something to do with how consoleclassix owns a backup copy of every game and even multiple copies of games where more than 1 user can play the same game. Vizzed doesn't go to their extent but maybe eventually I'll get a lawyer and try to legalize this stuff better. But I know that Sega and Atari know of this site and I'm pretty certain that Nintendo and others do as well but no one besides Atari has asked me to take down games.
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Of course it legel, ask some of these people that have been around longer than you, don't ask me, i'm only low level because i've been playing games and not posting anything.
Of course it legel, ask some of these people that have been around longer than you, don't ask me, i'm only low level because i've been playing games and not posting anything.
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A lot of things on the internet were not legal to begin with. Youtube for instance was not legal cause they allowed people to upload copyrighted materials and till this day they still do. Another site is project playlist which use to allow you to download mp3's I believe they got sued as well.

ESA says its illegal but ultimately its the gaming companies who decide. Sega was fine with it, Atari was not it differs between each company. If they don't want their stuff on a site they will request removal. Until then, they don't care and that makes it legal.
A lot of things on the internet were not legal to begin with. Youtube for instance was not legal cause they allowed people to upload copyrighted materials and till this day they still do. Another site is project playlist which use to allow you to download mp3's I believe they got sued as well.

ESA says its illegal but ultimately its the gaming companies who decide. Sega was fine with it, Atari was not it differs between each company. If they don't want their stuff on a site they will request removal. Until then, they don't care and that makes it legal.
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BluemageKyle :

If it was that big of a deal, David'd probably delete the thread

Not ask me to close it xD

Davideo7 :

My guess with the consoleclassix thing is that they realized they have no real assets to make the court fees worth it. I'm not entirely sure.

Whatever the case, it's still pretty illegal.

Unauthorized distribution of a copyright you don't have rights to is illegal, and there's no way around it. However, that doesn't mean they'll be on your doorstep, because so many sites offer a similar service to Vizzed or consoleclassix. And they'd keep popping up as long as the internet is actually a thing.
BluemageKyle :

If it was that big of a deal, David'd probably delete the thread

Not ask me to close it xD

Davideo7 :

My guess with the consoleclassix thing is that they realized they have no real assets to make the court fees worth it. I'm not entirely sure.

Whatever the case, it's still pretty illegal.

Unauthorized distribution of a copyright you don't have rights to is illegal, and there's no way around it. However, that doesn't mean they'll be on your doorstep, because so many sites offer a similar service to Vizzed or consoleclassix. And they'd keep popping up as long as the internet is actually a thing.
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legacyme3 : I'd love to see like a internet cop-trolling guy come and say he's a cop for the internet and those little kids will freak out and chuck their laptop/monitor out the window along with the CPU/Case (Case if you do PC Gaming, say, do you do PC gaming Leggy?)
legacyme3 : I'd love to see like a internet cop-trolling guy come and say he's a cop for the internet and those little kids will freak out and chuck their laptop/monitor out the window along with the CPU/Case (Case if you do PC Gaming, say, do you do PC gaming Leggy?)
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Ignoring the question of whether or not owning a physical copy of a game gives you the right to own the ROM, it certainly doesn't somehow make it legal to let people play that game online. It'd be really hard to argue to a judge that these ROMs are being used as backups when anyone can signup and just play them.
Ignoring the question of whether or not owning a physical copy of a game gives you the right to own the ROM, it certainly doesn't somehow make it legal to let people play that game online. It'd be really hard to argue to a judge that these ROMs are being used as backups when anyone can signup and just play them.
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Davideo7 : Yeah, I read that he had some legal trouble with them a while back. My guess would be he argued that he was simply doing the rental system, where only a few games at a time were rented out (similar to GameFly--But without physical copies) and that he wasn't making enough money to significantly effect Nintendo. You should probably ask him some time. I've talked to him before and he's a pretty personable guy and he doesn't seem to mind answering questions about the company.
Davideo7 : Yeah, I read that he had some legal trouble with them a while back. My guess would be he argued that he was simply doing the rental system, where only a few games at a time were rented out (similar to GameFly--But without physical copies) and that he wasn't making enough money to significantly effect Nintendo. You should probably ask him some time. I've talked to him before and he's a pretty personable guy and he doesn't seem to mind answering questions about the company.
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legacyme3 : Yeah that's just it, so many other sites are doing what vizzed does but worst. There's 100s of roms sites, many of them bigger than vizzed and a lot of them have newer stuff ranging from the Playstation 2 all the way to the Wii, DS and Xbox 360.

Lazlo Falconi : That's not a bad idea, might have to contact him sometime.
legacyme3 : Yeah that's just it, so many other sites are doing what vizzed does but worst. There's 100s of roms sites, many of them bigger than vizzed and a lot of them have newer stuff ranging from the Playstation 2 all the way to the Wii, DS and Xbox 360.

Lazlo Falconi : That's not a bad idea, might have to contact him sometime.
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Vizzid is not illegal!!!! Whether he owns the games or not, the only way to play the games is online at the vizzid website!!!! Nothing illegal 'bout it!!
Vizzid is not illegal!!!! Whether he owns the games or not, the only way to play the games is online at the vizzid website!!!! Nothing illegal 'bout it!!
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Half legal, half ilegal. Why it's half legal is the boards. Nothing legal about that!
It's legal, however, because of all the romhacks and games! How does he get them? Where are the hacks coming from? so I rest my case.

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Half legal, half ilegal. Why it's half legal is the boards. Nothing legal about that!
It's legal, however, because of all the romhacks and games! How does he get them? Where are the hacks coming from? so I rest my case.

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This site is very much legal, I had my doubts at first but after reading a little about the site I found that yeah, its legal, and awesome.
This site is very much legal, I had my doubts at first but after reading a little about the site I found that yeah, its legal, and awesome.
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Sorry, but people are just beating a dead horse at this point. Thread closed.
Sorry, but people are just beating a dead horse at this point. Thread closed.
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