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Homosexuals/Lesbians

 
Is it wrong to be a homosexual?
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I don't really care.....
 
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Its a right!
 
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I think it's wrong and against everything I believe in, Religion and outside my religion too, but I would never JUDGE a person because of their sexuality...
I think it's wrong and against everything I believe in, Religion and outside my religion too, but I would never JUDGE a person because of their sexuality...
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for me its wrong coz wee have our gender. God make a woman ang guy to be a couple, and if you say its right, how if all people in the world become homo sexual, we'll extinct coz no one will born on this world.but i'll not discriminate you who are an homo sexual coz its your choice and you are still my friend coz you are my friend.i can go with any body.
for me its wrong coz wee have our gender. God make a woman ang guy to be a couple, and if you say its right, how if all people in the world become homo sexual, we'll extinct coz no one will born on this world.but i'll not discriminate you who are an homo sexual coz its your choice and you are still my friend coz you are my friend.i can go with any body.
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I think tolerance is a part of the christian religion. BUtt you shouldn't tolerate social degenerates who will drag down your country and children(not that I have any) NUFF SAID
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I think tolerance is a part of the christian religion. BUtt you shouldn't tolerate social degenerates who will drag down your country and children(not that I have any) NUFF SAID
(sorry to make inflamatory statements without backing then up)
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http://northwesternwinds.blogspot.com/2005/02/gay-genes-and-ssm-debate.html

if you don't want to read it, this is the summed up version

genes don't determine behaviour, they only influence behaviour.... there are tendencies to be a certain way but nothing set in stone...

I found it to be somewhat enlightening to think about... since I've heard about people suggesting that genes predetermine behaviour when no one has actually been able to prove that
http://northwesternwinds.blogspot.com/2005/02/gay-genes-and-ssm-debate.html

if you don't want to read it, this is the summed up version

genes don't determine behaviour, they only influence behaviour.... there are tendencies to be a certain way but nothing set in stone...

I found it to be somewhat enlightening to think about... since I've heard about people suggesting that genes predetermine behaviour when no one has actually been able to prove that
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Nothing wrong with homosexuality/bisexuality...

That's it.
Nothing wrong with homosexuality/bisexuality...

That's it.
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That is your opinion. That is all that was.
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I'm fine with people being homosexual. It's who they are, and they shouldn't be ridiculed, and often pushed away for it. There really isn't anything truly wrong with it.
It doesn't hurt anyone.

If god wanted it to just be men and women, why would he let gays be there in the first place? OMG SATAN DID IT
I'm fine with people being homosexual. It's who they are, and they shouldn't be ridiculed, and often pushed away for it. There really isn't anything truly wrong with it.
It doesn't hurt anyone.

If god wanted it to just be men and women, why would he let gays be there in the first place? OMG SATAN DID IT
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if that is the case, then everything bad is either God's fault or Satan's fault.... and both of those don't make sense...

is it possible that instead of it being "someone else's" fault that we take responsibility for this problem and do something about it?
if that is the case, then everything bad is either God's fault or Satan's fault.... and both of those don't make sense...

is it possible that instead of it being "someone else's" fault that we take responsibility for this problem and do something about it?
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but how is it a problem..? because some people don't like it..? NEWSFLASH! not everyone has the same set of morals. :|
but how is it a problem..? because some people don't like it..? NEWSFLASH! not everyone has the same set of morals. :|
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yeah, but just because people don't have the same morals doesn't mean we should let them do things that other people dont' want to see happen...

maybe I don't think killing is wrong.... well, I want to change that.... some people think it's wrong, but I don't... and I'm being discriminated against because of my personal choices...

I WANT EQUALITY

.... and that's what I hear from the gay community
yeah, but just because people don't have the same morals doesn't mean we should let them do things that other people dont' want to see happen...

maybe I don't think killing is wrong.... well, I want to change that.... some people think it's wrong, but I don't... and I'm being discriminated against because of my personal choices...

I WANT EQUALITY

.... and that's what I hear from the gay community
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well maybe a homosexual doesn't want to see you and your wife hold hands in public? it's all infringing on -someone's- beliefs, whether it's your own or someone elses.
well maybe a homosexual doesn't want to see you and your wife hold hands in public? it's all infringing on -someone's- beliefs, whether it's your own or someone elses.
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well, guess what.... 2% of the population doesn't get to choose whether I get to hold hands in public....

and speaking of which, I don't see why the rights of 2% get to infringe on the rights of 50+ percent.... in Canada at least.... 50+% are Christian, and that's not including Jewish and Muslim groups either.... which for the majority oppose SSM as well
well, guess what.... 2% of the population doesn't get to choose whether I get to hold hands in public....

and speaking of which, I don't see why the rights of 2% get to infringe on the rights of 50+ percent.... in Canada at least.... 50+% are Christian, and that's not including Jewish and Muslim groups either.... which for the majority oppose SSM as well
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Originally posted by MichaelVash7886
That is your opinion. That is all that was.


Thank you. Thank you for being so smart as to point out what everyone with half a f***ing braincell can see.

Get some neurons, then post.
Originally posted by MichaelVash7886
That is your opinion. That is all that was.


Thank you. Thank you for being so smart as to point out what everyone with half a f***ing braincell can see.

Get some neurons, then post.
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I was simply infering that you didn't really add much to the conversation. You just state that there is nothing wrong with it, then you give no reason as to why you think that way.
I was simply infering that you didn't really add much to the conversation. You just state that there is nothing wrong with it, then you give no reason as to why you think that way.
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Originally posted by Dekker Avesque
Thank you. Thank you for being so smart as to point out what everyone with half a f***ing braincell can see.

Get some neurons, then post.


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Originally posted by Dekker Avesque
Thank you. Thank you for being so smart as to point out what everyone with half a f***ing braincell can see.

Get some neurons, then post.


Please discontinue flamming
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please discontinue comments on the flaming... they REALLY don't help the topic continue....
please discontinue comments on the flaming... they REALLY don't help the topic continue....
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....lets stop pretending that all *Christians* don't like homosexuality and that means that people should appease the *Christians* and discriminate against homosexuality. I'm Christian. I'm CATHOLIC and I don't have any problem with gay people. I think its their right to have their sexuality and not be afraid to show it, too. So....

...lets call a spade a spade. You (meaning people who disapprove of it) don't like homosexuality because it scares you. It puts you out of your comfort zone. You don't like to think of two men or two women having sex. Well, wake up! This has been happening for THOUSANDS OF YEARS! It went on BEFORE Christianity, it will go on AFTER Christianity. it IS an impulse in certain people, not just a fad. you're not going to stop it, and it wouldnt make a difference to our society anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying "Oh, but the children!" How does 2% of the population (assuming geeo's figure is correct) corrupt children by having sex in private? It doesn't make sense. it's a bogus argument, this whole thing is based on YOUR fear!

this sort of prejudice is what is happening in the middle east. they don't like american's, they oppress their women because they put them out of their comfort zone. furthermore, they're hiding behind religion, which is the main argument against homosexuality.

our population is big enough, we're not starting a civilization, there's no HARM IN IT. What are gay people doing to you by being gay? Nothing! So leave it alone.
....lets stop pretending that all *Christians* don't like homosexuality and that means that people should appease the *Christians* and discriminate against homosexuality. I'm Christian. I'm CATHOLIC and I don't have any problem with gay people. I think its their right to have their sexuality and not be afraid to show it, too. So....

...lets call a spade a spade. You (meaning people who disapprove of it) don't like homosexuality because it scares you. It puts you out of your comfort zone. You don't like to think of two men or two women having sex. Well, wake up! This has been happening for THOUSANDS OF YEARS! It went on BEFORE Christianity, it will go on AFTER Christianity. it IS an impulse in certain people, not just a fad. you're not going to stop it, and it wouldnt make a difference to our society anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying "Oh, but the children!" How does 2% of the population (assuming geeo's figure is correct) corrupt children by having sex in private? It doesn't make sense. it's a bogus argument, this whole thing is based on YOUR fear!

this sort of prejudice is what is happening in the middle east. they don't like american's, they oppress their women because they put them out of their comfort zone. furthermore, they're hiding behind religion, which is the main argument against homosexuality.

our population is big enough, we're not starting a civilization, there's no HARM IN IT. What are gay people doing to you by being gay? Nothing! So leave it alone.
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granted... not ALL Christians think personally that gays are "bad people" or something....

however...

1) just because something has happened for a long time does not make it right.... womens rights is proof of that fact, or racial discrimination

2)When homosexuals get marriage, the next thing they will go for is the right to have children (adopt). Now, there is NO evidence that 2 male or 2 female parents will turn a kid gay or somehow screw him up, but there is plenty that proves that a 2 opposite sex parent home is the ideal situation for children... and I for one don't think children deserve to be in the middle of some social experiment we devise to see if harmful things happen to the kids....

3)There is no apparent harm that anyone in the immediate future can see.... but, you CAN'T see the future. No one knows what this will spawn.

4) Homosexuality is not a need. You said it is an impulse. I have impulses all the time. I was driving home tonight and someone almost hit me.... you know what I wanted to do.... get out and kick his face in... but I shouldn't do that.... it's not right.... well, that's how I feel about gays.... they are doing something unatural and the less I have to know about it the better
granted... not ALL Christians think personally that gays are "bad people" or something....

however...

1) just because something has happened for a long time does not make it right.... womens rights is proof of that fact, or racial discrimination

2)When homosexuals get marriage, the next thing they will go for is the right to have children (adopt). Now, there is NO evidence that 2 male or 2 female parents will turn a kid gay or somehow screw him up, but there is plenty that proves that a 2 opposite sex parent home is the ideal situation for children... and I for one don't think children deserve to be in the middle of some social experiment we devise to see if harmful things happen to the kids....

3)There is no apparent harm that anyone in the immediate future can see.... but, you CAN'T see the future. No one knows what this will spawn.

4) Homosexuality is not a need. You said it is an impulse. I have impulses all the time. I was driving home tonight and someone almost hit me.... you know what I wanted to do.... get out and kick his face in... but I shouldn't do that.... it's not right.... well, that's how I feel about gays.... they are doing something unatural and the less I have to know about it the better
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I guess this is where I stop being christian... if ALL christians hate gay people and think they're bad... oh well *sighs* it was fun while it lasted.

Everyone has a right to their own oppinions. You can be gay, straight, bi, republican, democrat, liberal, conservative, christian, jewish, islamic, black, white, ghetto, gamer, player, corporate, lawyer, IRS, PETA, GreenPeace, Green Party, Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Indigo, Violet, WHATEVER! It doesn't matter, it's your oppinion, and nobody should look down upon you for what you believe, say, or do.

If it's not against the law (which it SURE as HELL is NOT against the LAW) then it's not a problem with me. You can love all you want! Love is love no matter who or what for. It's not wrong to love god, and he's a man, so what's wrong with loving your fellow man?

1. People have been discriminating against gays since before ever...

2. So... what you're saying is... Since it's not ideal... it must be bad... OK then we've gotta stop buying anything but premium gasoline...

For number 3... RIGHT You CAN'T see the future... So why are you assuming the worst? (I guess I'm assuming the worst... or at least my oppinion of the worst you could be assuming...) Why not be optimistic and think that there IS no apparent immediate harm? Hell what about gay people helping the world? Ever consider that? Hmm? I know that most people haven't.

Also, Geeogree... you make it sound like LOVE isn't a need with number 4. That love is an impulse. Is that what you believe? Also, how is it unnatural? Did somebody make a chemical that they shoot into their arms, that makes them gay? A radioactive star exploded and out popped gay people? NO they came from Humans, they are humans, and it is ALL natural.

A way of thinking is all it is. A sexual preference... Hell, it's a preference! What's wrong with people with a different preference than you? That's all it is! I like Vanilla better than Strawberry Icecream. I like women better than men. My friend Travis likes Strawberry, and likes men.

It's all the same.

EDIT: For a minute... lets consider gay people another race...

Aren't you all being a little bit racist?

ANOTHER EDIT: W00t with my vote, my side of the arguement is winning!
I guess this is where I stop being christian... if ALL christians hate gay people and think they're bad... oh well *sighs* it was fun while it lasted.

Everyone has a right to their own oppinions. You can be gay, straight, bi, republican, democrat, liberal, conservative, christian, jewish, islamic, black, white, ghetto, gamer, player, corporate, lawyer, IRS, PETA, GreenPeace, Green Party, Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Indigo, Violet, WHATEVER! It doesn't matter, it's your oppinion, and nobody should look down upon you for what you believe, say, or do.

If it's not against the law (which it SURE as HELL is NOT against the LAW) then it's not a problem with me. You can love all you want! Love is love no matter who or what for. It's not wrong to love god, and he's a man, so what's wrong with loving your fellow man?

1. People have been discriminating against gays since before ever...

2. So... what you're saying is... Since it's not ideal... it must be bad... OK then we've gotta stop buying anything but premium gasoline...

For number 3... RIGHT You CAN'T see the future... So why are you assuming the worst? (I guess I'm assuming the worst... or at least my oppinion of the worst you could be assuming...) Why not be optimistic and think that there IS no apparent immediate harm? Hell what about gay people helping the world? Ever consider that? Hmm? I know that most people haven't.

Also, Geeogree... you make it sound like LOVE isn't a need with number 4. That love is an impulse. Is that what you believe? Also, how is it unnatural? Did somebody make a chemical that they shoot into their arms, that makes them gay? A radioactive star exploded and out popped gay people? NO they came from Humans, they are humans, and it is ALL natural.

A way of thinking is all it is. A sexual preference... Hell, it's a preference! What's wrong with people with a different preference than you? That's all it is! I like Vanilla better than Strawberry Icecream. I like women better than men. My friend Travis likes Strawberry, and likes men.

It's all the same.

EDIT: For a minute... lets consider gay people another race...

Aren't you all being a little bit racist?

ANOTHER EDIT: W00t with my vote, my side of the arguement is winning!
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wow.... you really didn't prove anything....

don't you understand that I'm not trying to keep gays from having rights....
wow.... you really didn't prove anything....

don't you understand that I'm not trying to keep gays from having rights....
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