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Should Child Molestors Be Put To Death??

 

04-26-12 09:35 AM
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Apologies if this is too mature of a question for the younger members of the board.  Topics certainly can't go lower than this one. 

First off,  I don't claim to be a saint in any way.  I listen to dirty, angry gangsta rap music and party just about every moment of my life away without a single regret...

But my answer to this question is a resounding and emphatic YES!! 

YES they should die for what they've done whether they've done it one time or hundreds of times.  With the planet as overpopulated as it already is I can't help but wonder why these people are released back into society after serving time.  I've even known a few in my life, never knowing what they are until after the fact has been revealed of course. 

A few years ago a cousin of my friend was busted for violating little kids (more than one and I won't go into detail on this because it would make everyone as sick as it does me I'm sure).  Anyways, he's served a prison sentence and he's back out as a registered sex offender of course...  but seriously...  Shouldn't he just be executed?  It makes me downright sick to know that I've been an
acquaintance to this man and he's free now.

There's absolutely no reason people like this should be allowed to exist on my planet.  Can anyone give me ONE GOOD REASON why these sick people even deserve an attempt at rehabilitation??
Apologies if this is too mature of a question for the younger members of the board.  Topics certainly can't go lower than this one. 

First off,  I don't claim to be a saint in any way.  I listen to dirty, angry gangsta rap music and party just about every moment of my life away without a single regret...

But my answer to this question is a resounding and emphatic YES!! 

YES they should die for what they've done whether they've done it one time or hundreds of times.  With the planet as overpopulated as it already is I can't help but wonder why these people are released back into society after serving time.  I've even known a few in my life, never knowing what they are until after the fact has been revealed of course. 

A few years ago a cousin of my friend was busted for violating little kids (more than one and I won't go into detail on this because it would make everyone as sick as it does me I'm sure).  Anyways, he's served a prison sentence and he's back out as a registered sex offender of course...  but seriously...  Shouldn't he just be executed?  It makes me downright sick to know that I've been an
acquaintance to this man and he's free now.

There's absolutely no reason people like this should be allowed to exist on my planet.  Can anyone give me ONE GOOD REASON why these sick people even deserve an attempt at rehabilitation??
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Local Mods : I really think this should be brought over to the debate section. It would be more useful there than here in general chat.

To add to this conversation I do not like child molesters. I do though think people can change and should be given the right to. They also need to pay for their sins and just killing them off would give them easy street. I believe they should pay with embarasment, and physical and mental torcher. They should not ever be given the easy road through execution.
Local Mods : I really think this should be brought over to the debate section. It would be more useful there than here in general chat.

To add to this conversation I do not like child molesters. I do though think people can change and should be given the right to. They also need to pay for their sins and just killing them off would give them easy street. I believe they should pay with embarasment, and physical and mental torcher. They should not ever be given the easy road through execution.
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they should be repeatedly kicked in the nuts and then dumped in an asylum
they should be repeatedly kicked in the nuts and then dumped in an asylum
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I think they should be. However, I've always been a fan of the death penalty.

While it doesn't apply in THIS case obviously, I've always said, "the only ones who SHOULD kill are those who are prepared to BE killed."

Murder is an obvious choice for the death penalty.

As for child molestation... it's so beyond wrong that it "kills" the child inside.

As a result, you ARE killing them one way or another.

It's twisted, but I would want to see a child molester suffer for their crimes.
I think they should be. However, I've always been a fan of the death penalty.

While it doesn't apply in THIS case obviously, I've always said, "the only ones who SHOULD kill are those who are prepared to BE killed."

Murder is an obvious choice for the death penalty.

As for child molestation... it's so beyond wrong that it "kills" the child inside.

As a result, you ARE killing them one way or another.

It's twisted, but I would want to see a child molester suffer for their crimes.
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I agree with what everyone has said.

I think they should be executed, I think crimes like Murder and Rape or other serious crimes that can cause serious physical or mental damage.

We don't have the death penalty in England but i wished we did, I can understand why people want to give them a second chance to repent for their sins. But you can't give the victim a second chance can you?

Plus the fact that most prisoners when put in jail for a long time adapt to the way of life and some cannot cope in the outside world so they commit another sinful crime just so that they can feel at "home",


I agree with what everyone has said.

I think they should be executed, I think crimes like Murder and Rape or other serious crimes that can cause serious physical or mental damage.

We don't have the death penalty in England but i wished we did, I can understand why people want to give them a second chance to repent for their sins. But you can't give the victim a second chance can you?

Plus the fact that most prisoners when put in jail for a long time adapt to the way of life and some cannot cope in the outside world so they commit another sinful crime just so that they can feel at "home",


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Yes, I think child molestation is awful, and I think that all child molesters need to be molested in jail. That's right, I went there.
Yes, I think child molestation is awful, and I think that all child molesters need to be molested in jail. That's right, I went there.
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I will say that I think our prison system needs a lot of work. It isn't really about rehabilitation at all. It's about taking away their freedom and separating them from society as a punishment for their crime. There really isn't much of an effort by our prison system to help convicts reintegrate with society when their prison sentence ends. There are certain optional methods such as parole and halfway houses, but they're not perfect and are sometimes not even possible for certain convicts. Prison is far more about prevention than rehabilitation.

Just as a side thought, I'm not actually sure how child molestation is defined. Is any instance of statutory rape included in that? Because if so, then what makes intercourse with a 16 year old in a state where it's legal any better than in a state where it's not?

Anyway, onto your actual question. Unless you're talking about a hypothetical world in which the justice system had a completely different structure than the one currently used by the United States, then the idea may be downright impossible. Most cases wind up ending with a plea bargain. This helps the justice system by getting cases through faster, and helps defendants by giving them a lighter sentence. If you're going to issue the death penalty to what is a relatively large number of people, then that's gonna tie the system up just getting them convicted. Then there is the extra time and money that death penalty cases cost.

It's not that I'm pro-child molesters. Trust me, I'm not. But there's a reason that there are people so adamantly against the death penalty. It doesn't prevent crime well enough to warrant its use, it ties up the system, it costs way more than to convict someone to life in prison without the possibility of parole, it overcrowds jails (while waiting for trial), and we already struggle to prevent executing innocent people. The death penalty is not as simple of a solution as you might think.
I will say that I think our prison system needs a lot of work. It isn't really about rehabilitation at all. It's about taking away their freedom and separating them from society as a punishment for their crime. There really isn't much of an effort by our prison system to help convicts reintegrate with society when their prison sentence ends. There are certain optional methods such as parole and halfway houses, but they're not perfect and are sometimes not even possible for certain convicts. Prison is far more about prevention than rehabilitation.

Just as a side thought, I'm not actually sure how child molestation is defined. Is any instance of statutory rape included in that? Because if so, then what makes intercourse with a 16 year old in a state where it's legal any better than in a state where it's not?

Anyway, onto your actual question. Unless you're talking about a hypothetical world in which the justice system had a completely different structure than the one currently used by the United States, then the idea may be downright impossible. Most cases wind up ending with a plea bargain. This helps the justice system by getting cases through faster, and helps defendants by giving them a lighter sentence. If you're going to issue the death penalty to what is a relatively large number of people, then that's gonna tie the system up just getting them convicted. Then there is the extra time and money that death penalty cases cost.

It's not that I'm pro-child molesters. Trust me, I'm not. But there's a reason that there are people so adamantly against the death penalty. It doesn't prevent crime well enough to warrant its use, it ties up the system, it costs way more than to convict someone to life in prison without the possibility of parole, it overcrowds jails (while waiting for trial), and we already struggle to prevent executing innocent people. The death penalty is not as simple of a solution as you might think.
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I agree with Requiem. I think they should be sent to prison. People in prison hate child molesters and rapists. They are tortured more than you can possibly imagine in prison. You let one of those big burly murderers get a hold of a pedophile and he'll make his life a living hell. You stick a needle in their arm they get to avoid all of that. I'd rather them suffer like the children suffer.

However, I also agree that everyone has the right to a second chance. If the person has truly been rehabilitated then they can go home, but they still need to be kept away from children. Being alone with a child can send an otherwise rehabilitated pedophile back into their old ways. But then there's another problem. How do we know if they are truly rehabilitated? Everyone deserves a second chance, but I still wouldn't trust a pedophile anywhere near my children, regardless of whether he says he's rehabilitated or not.
I agree with Requiem. I think they should be sent to prison. People in prison hate child molesters and rapists. They are tortured more than you can possibly imagine in prison. You let one of those big burly murderers get a hold of a pedophile and he'll make his life a living hell. You stick a needle in their arm they get to avoid all of that. I'd rather them suffer like the children suffer.

However, I also agree that everyone has the right to a second chance. If the person has truly been rehabilitated then they can go home, but they still need to be kept away from children. Being alone with a child can send an otherwise rehabilitated pedophile back into their old ways. But then there's another problem. How do we know if they are truly rehabilitated? Everyone deserves a second chance, but I still wouldn't trust a pedophile anywhere near my children, regardless of whether he says he's rehabilitated or not.
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While I agree to a degree with some of the feelings about having them serve their prison sentences and suffer through what they would suffer through in prison I would rather see them dead then alive.

The main reason being that child molestation charges are rarely severe enough. You could molest dozens of kids and only spend 5 years in jail. You could murder 1 person in cold blood and get 25+. More lives are ruined through child molestation than through murder. The effects are longer lasting in my opinion. I'd rather allow murderers to stay in prison or even be released and kill all child molesters.
While I agree to a degree with some of the feelings about having them serve their prison sentences and suffer through what they would suffer through in prison I would rather see them dead then alive.

The main reason being that child molestation charges are rarely severe enough. You could molest dozens of kids and only spend 5 years in jail. You could murder 1 person in cold blood and get 25+. More lives are ruined through child molestation than through murder. The effects are longer lasting in my opinion. I'd rather allow murderers to stay in prison or even be released and kill all child molesters.
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I think they should have their privates removed
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No I do not believe that they should be killed some of them hate themselves for it and want to change but can't try reading "Deadline" by Crutcher.  hopefully by reading this you may understand what I mean. Those people like the guy in the book.  I think should because they're truly sorry and trying to right their wrong doings.  but the sickos who see nothing wrong with it and are repeat offenders after being put in jail and therapy. I think they should be killed without the slightest hesitation. But then again I was born in Texas.

I also agree with XxxChaosxxX but some need to die this is because they might escape and more lives are ruined.
No I do not believe that they should be killed some of them hate themselves for it and want to change but can't try reading "Deadline" by Crutcher.  hopefully by reading this you may understand what I mean. Those people like the guy in the book.  I think should because they're truly sorry and trying to right their wrong doings.  but the sickos who see nothing wrong with it and are repeat offenders after being put in jail and therapy. I think they should be killed without the slightest hesitation. But then again I was born in Texas.

I also agree with XxxChaosxxX but some need to die this is because they might escape and more lives are ruined.
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I do not think they should be put do death. They should however, be put in a town. I guess like a prison town after they are released from prison. So that way, they can be back in society, but there would be no way for them to even attempt to try mess with little kids again. And then, they would be with their own kind, so they can suffer that way to.
I do not think they should be put do death. They should however, be put in a town. I guess like a prison town after they are released from prison. So that way, they can be back in society, but there would be no way for them to even attempt to try mess with little kids again. And then, they would be with their own kind, so they can suffer that way to.
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Noobolicious: I wish there was a way to know which rapists are honestly sorry for what they did and swear to be rehabilitated, but what are the odds that the court system will do the work to root out the "good" ones? And how will anyone know if that man or woman is telling the truth? Is letting them free worth the possibility that they will destroy another innocent child? 

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My opinion may be biased, as my mother was raped, my grandma was molested as a girl, and my close friend was also molested as a child.

The fact is almost ALL rapists (especially child rapists) will rape again. The court systems usually don't bother sending them to a mental institution, so if these people can't be rehabilitated WHY let them back into society? If I had it my way, I would have most child rapists put to death, but I am fine with them being in prison for life (as I begrudgingly pay taxes for them to live day-to-day...) It is just WRONG to let these men and women out of prison after no counselling or hope for rehabilitation! It starts a terrible cycle. Most people are sexual predators because they were abused as children. When you let people out knowing there is a strong possibility that they will abuse more children, you may be creating more sexual predators. Not to mention: mental illnesses, PTSD, Stockholm syndrome, suicide, and a whole mess of a lot more problems. Letting serial rapists and child rapists out of prison is pretty freakin risky. Is letting them out of prison worth the destruction it might cause?

Noobolicious: I wish there was a way to know which rapists are honestly sorry for what they did and swear to be rehabilitated, but what are the odds that the court system will do the work to root out the "good" ones? And how will anyone know if that man or woman is telling the truth? Is letting them free worth the possibility that they will destroy another innocent child? 

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My opinion may be biased, as my mother was raped, my grandma was molested as a girl, and my close friend was also molested as a child.

The fact is almost ALL rapists (especially child rapists) will rape again. The court systems usually don't bother sending them to a mental institution, so if these people can't be rehabilitated WHY let them back into society? If I had it my way, I would have most child rapists put to death, but I am fine with them being in prison for life (as I begrudgingly pay taxes for them to live day-to-day...) It is just WRONG to let these men and women out of prison after no counselling or hope for rehabilitation! It starts a terrible cycle. Most people are sexual predators because they were abused as children. When you let people out knowing there is a strong possibility that they will abuse more children, you may be creating more sexual predators. Not to mention: mental illnesses, PTSD, Stockholm syndrome, suicide, and a whole mess of a lot more problems. Letting serial rapists and child rapists out of prison is pretty freakin risky. Is letting them out of prison worth the destruction it might cause?

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I really want that all child molesters should die really painfully. Rape is 1 thing and I want to kill rapist painfully but child molesters are even worse then normal rapists. Somebody that destroys a love should not have the rights to get a sec change.as said before they have destroyed a live and that live can't get a sec change so why would they have one? Also I want them death for a few reasons.


1. The chance that the rapist will stop doing it at all is really small also if they can't hold it they will destroy again sombodys live.
2. Putting them in jail cost money,space, and it useless in the first place because again the chance that they change is really small.
3. They rape children


so in short I want all the child molesters death.
I really want that all child molesters should die really painfully. Rape is 1 thing and I want to kill rapist painfully but child molesters are even worse then normal rapists. Somebody that destroys a love should not have the rights to get a sec change.as said before they have destroyed a live and that live can't get a sec change so why would they have one? Also I want them death for a few reasons.


1. The chance that the rapist will stop doing it at all is really small also if they can't hold it they will destroy again sombodys live.
2. Putting them in jail cost money,space, and it useless in the first place because again the chance that they change is really small.
3. They rape children


so in short I want all the child molesters death.
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The biggest problem here, like with most cases of murder and rape, is figuring out who does and does not have remorse for their actions. As much as I want to give people a second chance, the current statistics are against this. The recidivism rate sex offenders is absolutely staggering. And by the time a person actually does commit one of these crimes, they are at that stage of life where everything is pretty much set in stone with little possibility of changing. And I agree with leggy's logic. Such crimes basically "kill" the child on the inside; all innocence is lost.
The biggest problem here, like with most cases of murder and rape, is figuring out who does and does not have remorse for their actions. As much as I want to give people a second chance, the current statistics are against this. The recidivism rate sex offenders is absolutely staggering. And by the time a person actually does commit one of these crimes, they are at that stage of life where everything is pretty much set in stone with little possibility of changing. And I agree with leggy's logic. Such crimes basically "kill" the child on the inside; all innocence is lost.
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  I just look at it this way... Eye for an eye.

  As awful as it is, there are many people who don`t have morality and they do as they choose whether it be murder or robbery or rape and molestation, and I feel that if you are willing to strip other human beings of those rights, then you yourself should be stripped of those rights, and you get what you deserve.

  I do agree with the death penalty as well, which is funny cause I`m a Canadian, a country of which does not support the death penalty (I guess it`s time to migrate south eh?).
  I just look at it this way... Eye for an eye.

  As awful as it is, there are many people who don`t have morality and they do as they choose whether it be murder or robbery or rape and molestation, and I feel that if you are willing to strip other human beings of those rights, then you yourself should be stripped of those rights, and you get what you deserve.

  I do agree with the death penalty as well, which is funny cause I`m a Canadian, a country of which does not support the death penalty (I guess it`s time to migrate south eh?).
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I can't really say for sure..... I guess it depends on the situation and the amount of times I guess. Either way they should be punished so severely that even if they don't be put down to death, they should suffer so badly that they would WANT to commit suicide.
I can't really say for sure..... I guess it depends on the situation and the amount of times I guess. Either way they should be punished so severely that even if they don't be put down to death, they should suffer so badly that they would WANT to commit suicide.
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There is one big detail that I think is a flaw in the death penalty. Death would be a release, not a punishment. If you kill someone, how can they they really come to regret anything. They are dead, so they are no longer being punished. Even though prison is full of criminals ranging from petty crime to murder, there is one thing that is a common code of conduct for prisoners. That code is that you don't rape or beat kids. Child abusers/rapists actually are not accepted by prisoners and they are ones that are targeted for prison rapes and beatings. For a child abuser, prison is the last place they would want to be because their life will be made a living hell. I think having to spend the rest of their lives in an environment where a whole penitentiary of hardened criminals target them like that is the perfect punishment. That is far worse than death, in my opinion.
There is one big detail that I think is a flaw in the death penalty. Death would be a release, not a punishment. If you kill someone, how can they they really come to regret anything. They are dead, so they are no longer being punished. Even though prison is full of criminals ranging from petty crime to murder, there is one thing that is a common code of conduct for prisoners. That code is that you don't rape or beat kids. Child abusers/rapists actually are not accepted by prisoners and they are ones that are targeted for prison rapes and beatings. For a child abuser, prison is the last place they would want to be because their life will be made a living hell. I think having to spend the rest of their lives in an environment where a whole penitentiary of hardened criminals target them like that is the perfect punishment. That is far worse than death, in my opinion.
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Why give someone the luxury to wake up every morning with the ability to eat, to breathe, to think... that is not punishment just ask Charles Manson who enjoys living in a box and is more free then then anyone in society. Compared to nazi concentration camps our prisons look like 5 star hotels.

I propose all murderers and child molestors should be given death penalty hostel style because a simple injection is too peaceful and not enough suffering. Let their last memory of life be horrible excruciating pain like they have caused to their victims.
Why give someone the luxury to wake up every morning with the ability to eat, to breathe, to think... that is not punishment just ask Charles Manson who enjoys living in a box and is more free then then anyone in society. Compared to nazi concentration camps our prisons look like 5 star hotels.

I propose all murderers and child molestors should be given death penalty hostel style because a simple injection is too peaceful and not enough suffering. Let their last memory of life be horrible excruciating pain like they have caused to their victims.
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Excuse my language but, a child molester should have his d**k nail to a log in a barn. Then set the barn on fire. Give him a knife, he can cut it off or die in the fire.
Excuse my language but, a child molester should have his d**k nail to a log in a barn. Then set the barn on fire. Give him a knife, he can cut it off or die in the fire.
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