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Should mobile devices like phones, iDevices etc. be taken more seriously in gaming?

 

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I love gaming on my iPod, and I think as a market these devices are definitely overlooked more than they should be. There are some developers who have created brilliant games that work perfectly on these devices. I think the low prices on the games gives them the freedom to try new things and these pay off. What do you think? Is this the evolution of gaming, or just a fad?
I love gaming on my iPod, and I think as a market these devices are definitely overlooked more than they should be. There are some developers who have created brilliant games that work perfectly on these devices. I think the low prices on the games gives them the freedom to try new things and these pay off. What do you think? Is this the evolution of gaming, or just a fad?
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No, they should NOT be taken more seriously in gaming. Phones are for phoning, and video game devices are for video games. You can't be called a gamer when you play 'Angry Birds' or 'Cut the Rope'. Sorry, but that's just not the way it works.
No, they should NOT be taken more seriously in gaming. Phones are for phoning, and video game devices are for video games. You can't be called a gamer when you play 'Angry Birds' or 'Cut the Rope'. Sorry, but that's just not the way it works.
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In some ways, they are already being taken very seriously. A popular one dollar game on the app store can generate millions of dollars and it's much easier to download an app from the app store than to buy video games from stores. 
In some ways, they are already being taken very seriously. A popular one dollar game on the app store can generate millions of dollars and it's much easier to download an app from the app store than to buy video games from stores. 
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Honestly I disagree .. I think it's already being taking seriously.. there is already so many games on phones in general.. that can make tons of dollars a year... Phones are not just for calling or texting.. they are for gaming as well.. I love a lot of my free games that I have on my android phone.. even though I don't pay money.. it passes time and is very fun to play. I think a lot of people would agree with me when I say that games on the cell phone are taken serious and should always be.. sense it's really fun and time consuming.




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Honestly I disagree .. I think it's already being taking seriously.. there is already so many games on phones in general.. that can make tons of dollars a year... Phones are not just for calling or texting.. they are for gaming as well.. I love a lot of my free games that I have on my android phone.. even though I don't pay money.. it passes time and is very fun to play. I think a lot of people would agree with me when I say that games on the cell phone are taken serious and should always be.. sense it's really fun and time consuming.




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NintendoFanKimmy : I agree. It's not really serious gaming; the phone is designed to make calls.
NintendoFanKimmy : I agree. It's not really serious gaming; the phone is designed to make calls.
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The fact is that the mobile game business is being corrupted by Free to Play. Plus touchscreens aren't really the best thing for a game like an FPS, platformer (not endless runner), or most types of action games, now that i think about it. Although it would be nice if the companies took mobile games a little more seriously...
The fact is that the mobile game business is being corrupted by Free to Play. Plus touchscreens aren't really the best thing for a game like an FPS, platformer (not endless runner), or most types of action games, now that i think about it. Although it would be nice if the companies took mobile games a little more seriously...
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Actually, while I can see what you are saying, there are some very good and serious games on Android devices. In fact, some can even challenge modern games for quality and depth. Take the Zenonia series foe example (especially 3). The graphics are probablt SNES level and the third game is actually one of my favorite games, including console games. While some genres aren't too good for mobile platforms, I'd say RPG, Adventure, Platformers, and several other genres play exceptionally well on them. Basically anything except First Person games (they run okay, but I don't enjoy them).

I would say that the mobile platform can only be taken as seriously as the game developers take themselves. As Nintendofankimmy pointed out so well, the mobile platform devs are content to produce mini-games and half-finished games as final products. There are some real genius games on these platforms, but the market as a whole is dominated by overly simple time killer games. If these platforms are going to be taken as seriously as they could be, the game developers are going to have to give us something to take seriously. My friends and I plan on contributing to the supply of serious games on those platforms when we get our first game finished, and maybe we'll see the market eventually follow suit.
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Actually, while I can see what you are saying, there are some very good and serious games on Android devices. In fact, some can even challenge modern games for quality and depth. Take the Zenonia series foe example (especially 3). The graphics are probablt SNES level and the third game is actually one of my favorite games, including console games. While some genres aren't too good for mobile platforms, I'd say RPG, Adventure, Platformers, and several other genres play exceptionally well on them. Basically anything except First Person games (they run okay, but I don't enjoy them).

I would say that the mobile platform can only be taken as seriously as the game developers take themselves. As Nintendofankimmy pointed out so well, the mobile platform devs are content to produce mini-games and half-finished games as final products. There are some real genius games on these platforms, but the market as a whole is dominated by overly simple time killer games. If these platforms are going to be taken as seriously as they could be, the game developers are going to have to give us something to take seriously. My friends and I plan on contributing to the supply of serious games on those platforms when we get our first game finished, and maybe we'll see the market eventually follow suit.
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I guess they can be taken seriously if the competition is kept to their own rivals, android, because they are vastly different to any other kind of gaming.

Mobile games are almost always indie games so they can be made by anyone, even my friend sold a mobile game.
Everything is desolated and you don't get the same experience anywhere else apart from maybe PC gaming.

You can only take it seriously in it's own field. You can't compare doodle jump with GTA 5.
I guess they can be taken seriously if the competition is kept to their own rivals, android, because they are vastly different to any other kind of gaming.

Mobile games are almost always indie games so they can be made by anyone, even my friend sold a mobile game.
Everything is desolated and you don't get the same experience anywhere else apart from maybe PC gaming.

You can only take it seriously in it's own field. You can't compare doodle jump with GTA 5.
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NintendoFanKimmy : I'm honestly not talking about those type of games, as they're more minigames. That's like saying the card flip rooms on Super Mario Bros are games. No, I mean games like dead trigger, games like Reaper: Tale of a Pale Swordsman. Fifa, Football manager, limbo, real racing, device 6, Bounce On, Phoenix Box, Nihilumbra. These games are all games that are fun, long, and great to play. Not minigames like angry birds.


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NintendoFanKimmy : I'm honestly not talking about those type of games, as they're more minigames. That's like saying the card flip rooms on Super Mario Bros are games. No, I mean games like dead trigger, games like Reaper: Tale of a Pale Swordsman. Fifa, Football manager, limbo, real racing, device 6, Bounce On, Phoenix Box, Nihilumbra. These games are all games that are fun, long, and great to play. Not minigames like angry birds.


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No because most phone games are just too short to be taken seriously.
 
 I do not consider the apps on a phone serious gaming I consider them games because if you put out skyrim and head soccer on gamestop store shelves which do you think would sell better.
 
 Also without taking up the persons entire phone space an amazing game for the phone cannot be made.
No because most phone games are just too short to be taken seriously.
 
 I do not consider the apps on a phone serious gaming I consider them games because if you put out skyrim and head soccer on gamestop store shelves which do you think would sell better.
 
 Also without taking up the persons entire phone space an amazing game for the phone cannot be made.
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While mobile devices aren't taken as seriously as other devices by developers, some developers have made much more than just casual games.  The Infinity Blade series, World of Goo, and great ports of games such as Sonic CD and Skulls of the Shogun.  The biggest market is for casual games, and the mobile market has that all but locked up, with tons of well-reviewed games you can pick up in an instant and have fun in five-minute intervals.  Consoles can't compete very well in that category right now, especially at the prices mobile offers.
While mobile devices aren't taken as seriously as other devices by developers, some developers have made much more than just casual games.  The Infinity Blade series, World of Goo, and great ports of games such as Sonic CD and Skulls of the Shogun.  The biggest market is for casual games, and the mobile market has that all but locked up, with tons of well-reviewed games you can pick up in an instant and have fun in five-minute intervals.  Consoles can't compete very well in that category right now, especially at the prices mobile offers.
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imo No. I just think that there are few games that are good for it, while for the 3DS there are so many games.

Most of the time it's simple games, And back in the 80's that would have been awesome, but now it's just not really anything special. My opinion.

I'm also not saying that all of the games are simple. Not true. I mostly just download emulators on my android.
imo No. I just think that there are few games that are good for it, while for the 3DS there are so many games.

Most of the time it's simple games, And back in the 80's that would have been awesome, but now it's just not really anything special. My opinion.

I'm also not saying that all of the games are simple. Not true. I mostly just download emulators on my android.
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No, I am not going to say that there are not any truly artistic games that should be taking seriously, I am saying the casual market as a whole shouldn't be seen as anything more than what it is. To be fair though, I don't respect current generation gaming in general, I think the market is totally washed out with FPS and that is going to have the same effect that it did back in the late 70's early 80's, but that is a subject for another thread.
No, I am not going to say that there are not any truly artistic games that should be taking seriously, I am saying the casual market as a whole shouldn't be seen as anything more than what it is. To be fair though, I don't respect current generation gaming in general, I think the market is totally washed out with FPS and that is going to have the same effect that it did back in the late 70's early 80's, but that is a subject for another thread.
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I disagree one-hundred percent, especially when we are talking about the Apple products. They are usually significantly inferior to their competitors in the same market. Assuming that those Apple products are more inferior than the standard mobile products, there is no reason they should be taken seriously. The average mobile product can barely handle a game that runs on game consoles (handheld and home), as well as other things, such as a PC (tower, or laptop). The games will be holding us back from reaching true greatness. We will be stuck in the days of games that pretty much exclusively ran on arcades. The systems are too limited in their capabilities to perform any sort of meaningful service to the gaming community. If anything, they are holding us back, and I would wish for them to stop being so popular, so that they can stop taking away from the games that are being produced for other, more powerful systems. 
I disagree one-hundred percent, especially when we are talking about the Apple products. They are usually significantly inferior to their competitors in the same market. Assuming that those Apple products are more inferior than the standard mobile products, there is no reason they should be taken seriously. The average mobile product can barely handle a game that runs on game consoles (handheld and home), as well as other things, such as a PC (tower, or laptop). The games will be holding us back from reaching true greatness. We will be stuck in the days of games that pretty much exclusively ran on arcades. The systems are too limited in their capabilities to perform any sort of meaningful service to the gaming community. If anything, they are holding us back, and I would wish for them to stop being so popular, so that they can stop taking away from the games that are being produced for other, more powerful systems. 
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I thought they already were to be honest.

Like people already pointed out, i don't think i can consider minigames like "Angry Birds" real games. It's nothing like a Legend of Zelda game or a Pokémon game or anything like that.
Basically, i don't think they should be taken more seriously. While you can play games in your cellphone/Tablet/Something, they have A LOT of other fuctions. "Real" games shall stay on console and on PC.
I thought they already were to be honest.

Like people already pointed out, i don't think i can consider minigames like "Angry Birds" real games. It's nothing like a Legend of Zelda game or a Pokémon game or anything like that.
Basically, i don't think they should be taken more seriously. While you can play games in your cellphone/Tablet/Something, they have A LOT of other fuctions. "Real" games shall stay on console and on PC.
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Well I am sorta yes and no on this. It just really depends on the type of game. If it were small games that could be played in places while waiting for something or somebody, it could help pass the time. But for strict playing like console games no because things are limited and usually thought as like say freemium games sorta not really gaming unless you pay for a bunch. usually games are supposed to be free(other than the actual buying part) with some stuff payable such as DLCs and cosmetic like stuff. Other than all that phones in general should stay more with phone related stuff but iDevices such as iPad, iPod, and other tablet related stuff can have games because honestly who would take attempt to play games in a busy place where it could be broke?
Well I am sorta yes and no on this. It just really depends on the type of game. If it were small games that could be played in places while waiting for something or somebody, it could help pass the time. But for strict playing like console games no because things are limited and usually thought as like say freemium games sorta not really gaming unless you pay for a bunch. usually games are supposed to be free(other than the actual buying part) with some stuff payable such as DLCs and cosmetic like stuff. Other than all that phones in general should stay more with phone related stuff but iDevices such as iPad, iPod, and other tablet related stuff can have games because honestly who would take attempt to play games in a busy place where it could be broke?
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I guess they should be taken in consideration. PC's were not meant for them to use them for video gaming, but now they are one if not the biggest gaming device in the world.
If we do something like that, we could have phones that can play something like Skyrim, or GTA V, since they could evolve as the PC gaming evolved.

But, maybe not right now. In a couple of years maybe, as phones are needed for other things besides video games.
I guess they should be taken in consideration. PC's were not meant for them to use them for video gaming, but now they are one if not the biggest gaming device in the world.
If we do something like that, we could have phones that can play something like Skyrim, or GTA V, since they could evolve as the PC gaming evolved.

But, maybe not right now. In a couple of years maybe, as phones are needed for other things besides video games.
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Not right now really. There's not a ton of games that really have length or depth to them. A smartphone won't be able to have the power to run exceptionally big games, but there's many games that work feels better, and is serious on a smartphone. There's too many simple games for it at the moment, but that's in the hands of the developers.
Not right now really. There's not a ton of games that really have length or depth to them. A smartphone won't be able to have the power to run exceptionally big games, but there's many games that work feels better, and is serious on a smartphone. There's too many simple games for it at the moment, but that's in the hands of the developers.
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Yes, developers have created a select few quality games for iPhone etc., but honestly, they STILL are not the quality that the twenty dollar games for consoles are. You'll never find even a decent Mario Kart rip off on the app store, mainly because there just isn't enough room for them to work with. That's why you only pay a few dollars. And, if that isn't enough, playing a new game on your iPhone doesn't give you the thrill it does on a console (at least for me). And, really, it takes away from the experience when you have an entire console in your pocket, mainly because the console doesn't have as many quality games on it, and the tiiiny screen. So, no, I don't think we should the iPhone seriously as a gaming device.
Yes, developers have created a select few quality games for iPhone etc., but honestly, they STILL are not the quality that the twenty dollar games for consoles are. You'll never find even a decent Mario Kart rip off on the app store, mainly because there just isn't enough room for them to work with. That's why you only pay a few dollars. And, if that isn't enough, playing a new game on your iPhone doesn't give you the thrill it does on a console (at least for me). And, really, it takes away from the experience when you have an entire console in your pocket, mainly because the console doesn't have as many quality games on it, and the tiiiny screen. So, no, I don't think we should the iPhone seriously as a gaming device.
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I think that the big gaming companies, won't make games for tablets, and other touchscreen type devices until way later. The tech doesn't seem ready, in my opinion. I installed some apps, games, and the controls didn't feel comfortable. I like the standard PC controls, and I have used some consoles, and until they make some controller or something like that, I don't think much will happen in development with bigger companies.
I think that the big gaming companies, won't make games for tablets, and other touchscreen type devices until way later. The tech doesn't seem ready, in my opinion. I installed some apps, games, and the controls didn't feel comfortable. I like the standard PC controls, and I have used some consoles, and until they make some controller or something like that, I don't think much will happen in development with bigger companies.
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