Well I just came across a picture of him dead. Even if its fake. I can't show it on here due to the graphic nature of the picture.

joebab :
I definitely agree with you about revenge. As an American, I'm a little worried to see what this will bring. There are other leaders of Al Queda and they won't stop until their goal is accomplished.

legacyme3 :
The pic is for you. I'm sorry to everyone. This picture I posted is graphic, so please handle it maturely.






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Is that the fake one? They have not officially released any photos yet.

Truth be told, I am extremely happy that Osama Bin Laden, who is responsible for many, many innocent deaths and the World Trade Center attack, is finally dead.

spectergaj :

I've seen this picture.

Normally I would believe it at first inspection.

However, I saw a comparison between this picture and another at one point already.

I'll look for the link again, but the picture makes it look like they took Osama from 9 years ago, and photoshopped it onto a guy who had died last week, who looked very similar in the wounded areas.

This wouldn't have been a big deal but they had to strip any way of proving it as him, by giving him a burial at sea.

As a Muslim and an American i'm happy to see that Osama is dead. i can't help but think about all the things that could follow. I may be only 13, but i don't think the Al-Qaeda will take this sitting down. BTW, if you don't know yet, osama was killed in a mansion he was hiding in. the mansion had no telephone lines or anything. 6 navy seals were sent to get him, but there was a firefight and (if i remember correctly) 2 couriers died, osama's son, and a woman who was osama's wife was used as a human shield. He was killed in Hand-to-hand combat and then shot in the head. I'm just glad that "Public Enemy #1" is finally dead.

USA USA USA USA USA USA!

As of right now there are no officially released pictures. I heard this on the BBC fifteen minutes ago. I would be extremely skeptical of ANY so-called "photos of the body" at this point.

I too am glad he is dead, now he is no longer a threat to innocent human lives... Onto the next problem....

Osama Bin Laden, dead or not...every solution breeds new problems. I am hoping and praying that it is true, that he is dead.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: Only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

Annette : ...an Excellent Quote.... truely

trouble982 :

As much as I hate Donald Trump...

That method would be more effective than burying him at sea so no one can prove it's him.

Annette :

I saw that on Facebook... by you =P

legacyme3 : They had to bury him at sea, no Muslim country would take him for burial.

trouble982 :

Do something else with the body, put it somewhere else, or at least let us SEE him before he is pushed out to sea. Now I won't believe a word of the Osama thing at all. I saw no evidence it was even him.

legacyme3 : Muslims have to be burried within 24 hours of dieing...and with keeping with that to avoid as much international conflict as possible, they tried to find a place to bury him. Besides, what would the US gain from lying about his death...and HOW could they lie about his death. If Osama is still alive, he will just come out with a new video saying "HEY GUYS I'M STILL ALIVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE H*LL YOUR TALKING ABOUT"

trouble982 :

He could release a video if he were alive.

But what if he is alive, and this is a coverup. Maybe there IS a video, but the US government is covering it up. They obviously don't want to look bad. This is good for America as a people, giving them something to believe in. If the government is lying though, and they are caught, it will be bad for everyone.

The thing with water burial in muslim tradition...

It's rarely done anymore, being reserved for those who promoted the name of Islam. Osama bin Laden is an international criminal, I highly doubt the US is suddenly going to decide to be honorable and say he promoted the name of Islam, or that Islam is a terrible religion by saying he embodied the culture.

Anyone can lie about death. I could stage the death of someone, and have them simply be cut off from announcing I am a liar by many means. Whether they have him captured, held down, or are censoring whatever he says, he can't get his message out.

The US gains peace of mind if they are lying about this.

Think, he's been on the run for almost 10 freaking years. The people would rejoice if he was killed or captured. Because people THINK he is dead, whether he is or not, they are celebrating as you see. Which is fine, celebrate his "death" if need be, but if he's alive, they are only going to end up feeling remorseful.

I don't care whether he's alive or dead. I just want the government to give the full story for once. They owe the American people that.

legacyme3 : What would they gain from making a cover up...There is no way they would say for a fact that Osama is dead without Osama actually being dead...the only way it is a cover up is if the US government is in on 9/11 with Osama...And I really think that is a stretch, as there were witnesses in Pakistan to what happened. There was even a guy tweeting about the helicopters. But hey who knows, maybe Osama is down in Hawaii right now, chilling with Elvis, Michael Jackson, Biggie, Tupac and Jimmie Hoffa.

trouble982 :

I know this may sound ridiculous, but bear with me.

Pakistan has it's own conflicts, yes?

Perhaps America wants Pakistani support, so we have to give them support in return.

Maybe they are in on this, and maybe they aren't.

The thing about things like this is conspiracy theories will arise. The text books will say he was killed May 1st 2011. But I think that's about as likely as his previously reported death 3 years ago.

I might never believe he's dead, I could be 50 and somehow think he still was alive on May 1st 2011, even if he's long dead.

I don't think it even matters, because this does NOT end terrorism. The Pakistani Taliban has said if Osama had died, they would take immediate action in retribution. So if we killed Osama, sweet, but we are about to get s*** on again.

This is only the beginning of what could be an even more violent struggle.

legacyme3 : Osama Bin Laden has been the face of terrorism for the last 10 years. He is the figure head for Al Qaeda. Killing him is basically cutting of the head of terrorism, not forever, but for right now. Unless Osama Himself is in on this, I seriously doubt this is a cover up by the USA.

My take on the issue. This was in the "Christian Conservative" Forum:

https://www.vizzed.com/vizzedboard/thread.php?id=26383

AndyGer : shorter that I thought, it came to me he was going to die of old age

play4fun :

I read your take on it, and when I think of the implications of his alleged death, it makes me ponder a lot of how things work in the religious world. I'm thinking from mostly a political stance so I don't think as much of the implications of repenting and that stuff. It was a thinker for sure.

trouble982 :

There were signs he was losing influence with the organization anyway, so his loss isn't even a huge blow for them. They seem to have tossed him to the side and been focusing on other members. I don't think that terror will be averted by much if at all.

Sure this is nice for the American people, but I don't think it's the cure all that some people see it as even in his alleged death.

Whether he is dead or not, the threat still remains.

Now I'm starting to have mixed feelings about this. Here's why:

*The government has decided NOT to show pictures of the dead body. Therefore, there is no actual "proof" that this happened.

*The US government ratings have been down in the toilet, and all they need is something like this to make the citizens wave flags and be all patriotic, and love the government again. Notice how relatively quickly Obama got that speech together, and then delivered it flawlessly? This could've been in planning for a while.

So,
legacyme3 : Maybe you aren't so crazy after all?

the_casualty :

Thank you for seeing things in a different light.

For the past 20 hours I feel like I've been insane, because I felt like I was the only one seeing things differently.

legacyme3 : I'm not necessarily saying I agree with you; however I do understand your point of view and it is possible.

the_casualty :

And that's all I ask. I want people to look at both sides of this, without saying, "Oh, you are crazy, that can't possibly be true because _____ is a ______ and ______ wouldn't _____"

That type of stuff irritates me.

I can see why people would think this is true, so why can't others open up themselves?

trouble982 : lmao....*wipes tear from eyes* Priceless

legacyme3 : Then why didn't they just do this during Bush's term...you know Bush wanted more than anything to catch or kill Osama before his term was over...if this was faked then why did they not just do it pre-2008.

trouble982 :

I think they did try.

There was a report 3 years ago how he had been killed. It ended up being false, and it was kinda pathetic.

It was a lot less feasible then to catch him. Plus, I always thought Bush was completely incompetant anyway.

Bush kinda fails at everything, which is why he couldn't get away with it.

legacyme3 : Get away with what...the reports of Osama's death 3 years ago where a lot different that the reports now...3 years ago we reported that he might have been blown up in a series of air raids...this time around we had his body, got dna evidence, and got it reported to us by the POTUS himself...

Also, if you want to bring up last time, you've proved one of my points. We reported him dead 3 years ago, and he sent us a tape to prove us wrong...if he isn't dead now, he will send another tape.

trouble982 : He just might send us a tape. Who knows.

Nice to know that Osama finally got what he deserved. I just hope that everyone doesn't give all of the credit to Obama, remember who wanted to find this guy in the first place, even if its hard to give credit to him.

Anyway let me see if I can bust some humor into this

AMERICA IS DOMINATE

Viperx199 : Well if you are talking about Bush, then of course he wanted to find him...he attacked our country...but Bush had 8 years to find him and couldn't do it...I'm not saying he failed, but he didn't succeed...That being said, MOST of the credit should go to the Navy Seals that successfully went in, and killed Osama without so much as 1 American Soldier getting hurt. Where Obama should get the credit is for having the grapefruits to give the order to go in and get Osama with ground forces...it isn't an easy decision.

I agree that the men and women that served to kill this guy and the Taliban-Al Qaeda terrorists deserve the most credit, I just don't want people being ignorant and saying "Bush is a white republican and Obama is a black democrat, therefore Bush is lazy and Obama deserves all the credit". Going back to what I said, the plan to kill Osama was probably devised by the military, all Obama had to do was give the plan an OK to go, no testosterone required.

Also,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8472810/Wikileaks-Al-Qaeda-plotted-chemical-and-nuclear-attack-on-the-West.html

oh well.

trouble982 :

And the US will block it from airing anywhere, and keep the people in blind ignorance.

Back then was a little different. They thought he was dead, sincerely, and didn't have his body to prove it. They just happened to be wrong.

Now they are claiming to have had it. But they don't want to risk being called out on it, so obviously a tape will never air anywhere in America.

I'm ending the convo though. I'm skeptical, and you won't budge either. So I'm choosing to agree to disagree.

"And the US will block it from airing anywhere, and keep the people in blind ignorance."

Not a chance with the way our news channels are now...nothing can get kept off the air.

trouble982 :

I'm not going to raise the argument again, but here's some reading that was recently published.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110502/ts_yblog_thelookout/was-it-burying-bin-laden-at-sea-a-mistake

Seems that someone else thought of the same consequences and such that I did.

I just want to share this with people who think there's nothing wrong with any of this situation.

I am curious as to why the folks who said 9/11 was an inside job or said Bush lied and made the whole thing up to get into a war aren't decrying the assassination of a foreign person on another soveriegn country's soil.

We went out to assassinate a man. We did. How come the 9/11 folks aren't making a spectacle?

Oh! It's okay because Obama did it. Never mind then. I'll go back to my business.

legacyme3 : I'm not saying there isn't anything wrong with the situation...there is ALWAYS something wrong if you go looking for it. They buried Osama at sea to comply with the Muslim law that you are to be buried within 24 hours of dieing. They would have buried him in land, but not a single country would take him, so they buried him at sea. They did this to avoid as much international conflict as they can.

warmaker : What are you talking about...all I've been hearing is conspiracy theories...

warmaker means that if a republican tried to get the military to kill this guy, its cold blooded murder, and he's only in it for money. But if an unreliable democrat does it, heck, no conspiracies at all, and they will call Bush lazy!!

what's the word to describe this situation, oh right! IGNORANCE

Viperx199 : When George Bush declared war on the Al Qaeda and went after Osama, he had the support of the entire country. It doesn't matter which president found him, be it Democrat or Republican...The country would have been happy either way. But warmaker was talking about the conspiracy theorists. Those people are out for Obama too, saying he faked Osama's death and that he is also in on it. Once again, it doesn't matter what political affiliation the POTUS is, there will always be those same crazy people making up conspiracy theories.

trouble982 :

This is where YOU are ignorant. I can't let you say that I or any other conspiracy theorists are crazy, when there isn't any actual proof as to what happened yet. A quick polling of 1000 people I know showed that 48.4% think its for real, 42.7% think it's a cover up, and the last 9.9% think it's too confusing to care.

I don't think anyone from any situation is crazy. Unless they suggest something impossible.

My case, and the case of most theorists is legit, because it is POSSIBLE.

Whereas the case for Elephants from the Moon having abducted Osama to take with them to the Xorklan galaxy is crazy.

Don't tie conspiracy theorists into the same breed as crazy people. Some are, but most of us just don't buy everything we are told.

The President himself has never announced before that Bin Laden was dead. With the election next year, I don't think there is even a remote chance that he would have come out and made that statement unless he was 100% sure that Bin Laden was dead because the backlash should be be untrue would destroy him.

Also, Bin Laden would have had a tape out within 24 hours mocking us for thinking he was dead. It has been 48 hours, still nothing. When a week or two goes by and no tape surfaces... well... I think the skeptics will start to believe.

And the United States would not be able to cover it up if a tape were released. At least not outside of America's boarders, and then the information would still be out. Honestly, if there is any kind of cover up, I would most believe it is that we still have the body... because that would be desecration of remains and that would make Osama Bin Laden into a martyr, and we do not need that.

Right after the news hit, my fiance made a joke about Republicans requiring the long form death certificate, so lol on the Trump picture.

legacyme3 : I'm not ignorant, I'm usually one of those people coming up with conspiracy theories...and the only one I can come up with for this is that Osama and Bush worked together on 9/11...and now we have Osama, still alive, in protective custody. If Osama was still alive, and not working with us, a tape would have been released by now. And if the theory I came up with is true, then all I guess I can do is pray...because there's nothing I can do about it and we are already past the point of no return.

Elara : Exactly...there is now way the government would come out with this information this close the the next election if they aren't 1000000000000% sure he's dead. There is no way they could cover up a tape

The FBI is warning computer uses that a computer virus is doing the rounds purporting to contain a video of Bin Laden's death. The bureau has released a statement telling computer users to "exercise caution" if they receive such an email as it could contain malicious software designed to steal personal data.

trouble982 : Wait Osama worked with Bush? That's just RICH!!

But seriously, if that happened, why are we fighting a war against Al Qaeda?

There was a news headline on a local station yesterday that said "Obama Bin Laden Killed"

Viperx199 : That's my point...and we aren't fighting against the Taliban...we are fighting against Al Qaeda.

oops, edited the post, I hate typos.

Anyway, you can be skeptic if you want, but I am still glad Osama is dead.

Plus Bush is a republican, why would he bomb a World Trade center (AKA business, trade, market)?
That kinda kills the purpose of being a republican in the first place.