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Alright here it is. Sorry it took so long but I've been on holiday for a week.
And since it took so long and since there wasn't many entries I decided to make it last 2 months.
About DM's comments in the august comp thread:
Sorry about not letting you know that we didn't think that you should get Viz for your gf's art. I thought I posted it but I mustn't have.
And about the lion vs Juliet's...
qouted from one of my PMs to JS
'me - 1-reaper 2 or 3- Juliet or lion
You - 1-reaper 2-lion 3-juliet
Garth - 1-reaper 2-juliet 3-lion'
So I decided to give it to juliet because spawn97 had never posted since he posted the lion and still to this day hasn't.

But onto the comp...
The theme for this month is Nintendo (chosen by gtwalq)
You've get plenty of time but don't leave it too late
Alright here it is. Sorry it took so long but I've been on holiday for a week.
And since it took so long and since there wasn't many entries I decided to make it last 2 months.
About DM's comments in the august comp thread:
Sorry about not letting you know that we didn't think that you should get Viz for your gf's art. I thought I posted it but I mustn't have.
And about the lion vs Juliet's...
qouted from one of my PMs to JS
'me - 1-reaper 2 or 3- Juliet or lion
You - 1-reaper 2-lion 3-juliet
Garth - 1-reaper 2-juliet 3-lion'
So I decided to give it to juliet because spawn97 had never posted since he posted the lion and still to this day hasn't.

But onto the comp...
The theme for this month is Nintendo (chosen by gtwalq)
You've get plenty of time but don't leave it too late
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How about the first contest then? What happened there? Oh and:


Originally posted by joebab
So I decided to give it to juliet because spawn97 had never posted since he posted the lion and still to this day hasn't.


You decided that one picture was better because THE OTHER MEMBER DISAPPEARED? f***ING f*** OFF. COULDN'T YOU AT LEAST TRY NOT TO SEEM BIASED!?
How about the first contest then? What happened there? Oh and:


Originally posted by joebab
So I decided to give it to juliet because spawn97 had never posted since he posted the lion and still to this day hasn't.


You decided that one picture was better because THE OTHER MEMBER DISAPPEARED? f***ING f*** OFF. COULDN'T YOU AT LEAST TRY NOT TO SEEM BIASED!?
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I honestly don't see what's wrong with the first months choices. I stand by the decision that was chosen. Yes Shaedo's was quite good for paint and I did take things like the difficulty of the tools into account.
I liked juliets more in the july art comp so that was my choice.

It wasn't only that. I liked the artwork as well. But I didn't see the need to send 1000 Viz to someone that may never use it.

Anyway it has all passed. You can think whatever you want but I did whatever I felt right at the time and there's nothing that can be done about it now.
I honestly don't see what's wrong with the first months choices. I stand by the decision that was chosen. Yes Shaedo's was quite good for paint and I did take things like the difficulty of the tools into account.
I liked juliets more in the july art comp so that was my choice.

It wasn't only that. I liked the artwork as well. But I didn't see the need to send 1000 Viz to someone that may never use it.

Anyway it has all passed. You can think whatever you want but I did whatever I felt right at the time and there's nothing that can be done about it now.
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Yeah cool.

You can keep going with the competition then.

With 3 judges that obviously don't know how to judge anything, and make activity part of the judging progress. Seemingly without even discussing between each other and just sending in votes and tallying them.

Sounds like a good plan.
Yeah cool.

You can keep going with the competition then.

With 3 judges that obviously don't know how to judge anything, and make activity part of the judging progress. Seemingly without even discussing between each other and just sending in votes and tallying them.

Sounds like a good plan.
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And how do you know we just tally?
I believe we have had a bit of discussion when there was close ones, but the tally just shows me who everyone likes the most.
And how do you know we just tally?
I believe we have had a bit of discussion when there was close ones, but the tally just shows me who everyone likes the most.
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I. DON'T.

Because you aren't giving any insight to the judging process.

You could have you know, talked about why one did win, the judges motivations, some comments. Because all we see is the input and the output which doesn't tell us anything.

Make a judging a little more transparent. Let. Us. In.
I. DON'T.

Because you aren't giving any insight to the judging process.

You could have you know, talked about why one did win, the judges motivations, some comments. Because all we see is the input and the output which doesn't tell us anything.

Make a judging a little more transparent. Let. Us. In.
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How the heck can we judge if we are not biased? That is the whole point of judgeing to be biased.

Plus what is the point in sending 1000 Viz to someone who isn't active? There is no point. If they don't login for a week or even a month what makes you think they will come back later? It's like you sending 1000 Viz to an inactive member, completely wasteful.

If you don't like the results then move on, many people loose competitions no need to get heated over it.

Our judgement is good and yes we do discuss it with one another. We must do what is best for the competition and the contestants.
How the heck can we judge if we are not biased? That is the whole point of judgeing to be biased.

Plus what is the point in sending 1000 Viz to someone who isn't active? There is no point. If they don't login for a week or even a month what makes you think they will come back later? It's like you sending 1000 Viz to an inactive member, completely wasteful.

If you don't like the results then move on, many people loose competitions no need to get heated over it.

Our judgement is good and yes we do discuss it with one another. We must do what is best for the competition and the contestants.
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OK Then I didn't really think it was that important, but this month I'll put reasons in about why we chose who we did.
Now just let it go, why don't you just 'suggest' things instead of hammering people asking them why they didn't do certain things that you wish they had.
OK Then I didn't really think it was that important, but this month I'll put reasons in about why we chose who we did.
Now just let it go, why don't you just 'suggest' things instead of hammering people asking them why they didn't do certain things that you wish they had.
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Originally posted by JigSaw
How the heck can we judge if we are not biased? That is the whole point of judgeing to be biased.


Main Entry: bi·ased
Function: adjective
Date: 1649

1 : exhibiting or characterized by bias; especially : prejudiced
2 : tending to yield one outcome more frequently than others in a statistical experiment
3 : having an expected value different from the quantity or parameter estimated

Learn the definitions of words, biased is the complete opposite of fair judging.

Originally posted by JigSaw
Plus what is the point in sending 1000 Viz to someone who isn't active? There is no point. If they don't login for a week or even a month what makes you think they will come back later? It's like you sending 1000 Viz to an inactive member, completely wasteful.


"And at second place we have this brilliant looking lion, unfortunately the creator of this picture disappeared so we'll give the 1000 Viz reward to the third place contestant Juliet instead" Was that so hard?

Originally posted by joebab
Now just let it go, why don't you just 'suggest' things instead of hammering people asking them why they didn't do certain things that you wish they had.


I pretty much am suggesting things in a harsh tone, and it works doesn't it, at least you notice my opinions now.
Originally posted by JigSaw
How the heck can we judge if we are not biased? That is the whole point of judgeing to be biased.


Main Entry: bi·ased
Function: adjective
Date: 1649

1 : exhibiting or characterized by bias; especially : prejudiced
2 : tending to yield one outcome more frequently than others in a statistical experiment
3 : having an expected value different from the quantity or parameter estimated

Learn the definitions of words, biased is the complete opposite of fair judging.

Originally posted by JigSaw
Plus what is the point in sending 1000 Viz to someone who isn't active? There is no point. If they don't login for a week or even a month what makes you think they will come back later? It's like you sending 1000 Viz to an inactive member, completely wasteful.


"And at second place we have this brilliant looking lion, unfortunately the creator of this picture disappeared so we'll give the 1000 Viz reward to the third place contestant Juliet instead" Was that so hard?

Originally posted by joebab
Now just let it go, why don't you just 'suggest' things instead of hammering people asking them why they didn't do certain things that you wish they had.


I pretty much am suggesting things in a harsh tone, and it works doesn't it, at least you notice my opinions now.
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While I'll go learn the word "biased" you should go learn the word "judging".

judged, judg·ing, judg·es
- To form an opinion or estimation of after careful consideration.

o⋅pin⋅ion
- a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character

And since judgement is based on opinion don't try to tell us we are being unfair. If everything was fair, and equal, there would be no point in judging or holding a competition cause everyone would win. But when you throw the word biased in there we got ourselves a competition with judges who have different or same opinions on things.

While I'll go learn the word "biased" you should go learn the word "judging".

judged, judg·ing, judg·es
- To form an opinion or estimation of after careful consideration.

o⋅pin⋅ion
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And since judgement is based on opinion don't try to tell us we are being unfair. If everything was fair, and equal, there would be no point in judging or holding a competition cause everyone would win. But when you throw the word biased in there we got ourselves a competition with judges who have different or same opinions on things.

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Originally posted by joebab

Sorry about not letting you know that we didn't think that you should get Viz for your gf's art.
You could've, I dunno, not sent the Viz. OMG, I know, it's crazy talk! I understand if he shouldn't be awarded for his GF's art, so you didn't have to send him the Viz if his GF's art won. Simple as at.
Originally posted by joebab

Sorry about not letting you know that we didn't think that you should get Viz for your gf's art.
You could've, I dunno, not sent the Viz. OMG, I know, it's crazy talk! I understand if he shouldn't be awarded for his GF's art, so you didn't have to send him the Viz if his GF's art won. Simple as at.
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Originally posted by JigSaw
WORDS WORDS WORDS JUDGING WORDS WORDS BIASED WORDS WORDS.


I seriously have no idea wtf you're talking about. You have to be biased to judge someone? Do you know what biased means? It means that you skew in one direction, or in this case judge based on things that are irrelevant, such as activity.

I'm not saying that you can't be 100% perfectly unbiased, but you could certainly do better.

And I'm not saying that you're unfair, I'm saying that your opinion is wrong and you obviously shouldn't have been a judge in an art comp.
Originally posted by JigSaw
WORDS WORDS WORDS JUDGING WORDS WORDS BIASED WORDS WORDS.


I seriously have no idea wtf you're talking about. You have to be biased to judge someone? Do you know what biased means? It means that you skew in one direction, or in this case judge based on things that are irrelevant, such as activity.

I'm not saying that you can't be 100% perfectly unbiased, but you could certainly do better.

And I'm not saying that you're unfair, I'm saying that your opinion is wrong and you obviously shouldn't have been a judge in an art comp.
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There's another one DM, 'opinion'.
That's what judging is and you don't agree with mine... who cares.
Seriously, how can someones opinion be wrong? It doesn't make sense.
There's another one DM, 'opinion'.
That's what judging is and you don't agree with mine... who cares.
Seriously, how can someones opinion be wrong? It doesn't make sense.
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So I want to enter, so do I draw something and post it in here?

Pluse how do I get the picture in here? I only know how from other websites.
So I want to enter, so do I draw something and post it in here?

Pluse how do I get the picture in here? I only know how from other websites.
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If your opinion is that you should make someone win an art comp because they're more active then yes, your opinion is wrong.

If you believe that being biased is a important part of judging then yes your opinion is wrong.


And each of you fall under at least one of these.

Oh and treecko, just upload them to TinyPic or something.
If your opinion is that you should make someone win an art comp because they're more active then yes, your opinion is wrong.

If you believe that being biased is a important part of judging then yes your opinion is wrong.


And each of you fall under at least one of these.

Oh and treecko, just upload them to TinyPic or something.
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My entry-
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I'm sure you'll win with that one, after all you're very active!
I'm sure you'll win with that one, after all you're very active!
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Originally posted by Dragon master
I'm sure you'll win with that one, after all you're very active!

Thanks!!!

Ps- Can you enter more than once?
Pps- Do you want me to color my drawing???
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I'm sure you'll win with that one, after all you're very active!

Thanks!!!

Ps- Can you enter more than once?
Pps- Do you want me to color my drawing???
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When judging one must be as objective as possible, the artwork should be judged based on it's merits and nothing else.
So taking a piece of art out of the running just because of inactivity is pretty ridiculous, just give the prize to the next runner up.
If an artwork is superior it should win regardless (unless the person submitting stole it).

Tybo: 1) DM was being sarcastic.
2) If another artwork is submitted it will take the place of the previous entry.
3) It's up to you whether or not to color.

And why is the contest two months long?
It seems like a bit much to me.
When judging one must be as objective as possible, the artwork should be judged based on it's merits and nothing else.
So taking a piece of art out of the running just because of inactivity is pretty ridiculous, just give the prize to the next runner up.
If an artwork is superior it should win regardless (unless the person submitting stole it).

Tybo: 1) DM was being sarcastic.
2) If another artwork is submitted it will take the place of the previous entry.
3) It's up to you whether or not to color.

And why is the contest two months long?
It seems like a bit much to me.
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That was explained in the first post. Because this one was started late it is running for a month and a half.
Plus considering the lack of entries the past few months I think it is a good move to run them every 2 months (or even longer).
But yeah, you shouldnt judge anything on the members activity or their rank, thumbs, status, etc, those have no baring in judging things.
That was explained in the first post. Because this one was started late it is running for a month and a half.
Plus considering the lack of entries the past few months I think it is a good move to run them every 2 months (or even longer).
But yeah, you shouldnt judge anything on the members activity or their rank, thumbs, status, etc, those have no baring in judging things.
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We prioritize the community over the site profits.  This is why we avoid using annoying (but high paying) ads like most other sites which include popups, obnoxious sounds and animations, malware, and other forms of intrusiveness.  We'll do our part to never resort to these types of ads, please do your part by helping support this site by adding Vizzed.com to your ad blocking whitelist.

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