I wasn't exactly sure where to put this.

My friends and I were sitting at lunch and some how we got started on whether being gay was right or wrong. My friend thinks it's downright wrong and utterly gross, and hates it. He said that being gay and being a pedophile are the exact same thing... I see why he would think being gay is wrong since he is a strong believing Christian, but still I just don't see how he can think being gay and being a pedophile are the same thing. Yes they are both sexual preferences of some kind, but so is being heterosexual or bisexual and he doesn't think any of those are the same thing. I don't understand the logic in his argument.

Thoughts?

I see no legitimate comparison with Pedophiles and homosexuals. I mean, what is there to compare? There are two different things, pedophiles are those who pray on innocent people. Gays aren't even close to that idea. At all.

I've heard that claim before, but I've never seen anyone give a real argument to try to substantiate their claim. It's basically an argument fueled entirely by emotion, rather than logic. They hate the act because of their religion, but they can't understand why people who don't believe in their religion don't agree. Realizing that arguing from the position that their religion says it's wrong won't work, they resort to exaggerating in an attempt to convince others that they're right.

Any instance of homosexuality that involves two consenting adults cannot be compared to pedophilia. To do so is probably equally as insulting to real victims as it is to homosexuals. It's entirely insensitive and irrational. But it's not intended to be rational. It's intended to make you as disgusted with something that you may otherwise feel apathetic towards, whether they do it intentionally or not. Anyone who takes a step back and thinks about what they're saying for half a second would realize the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia.

soxfan849 : My friend is more than likely just scared to admit that we're right, due to his argumentative nature. He does't even give any sort of support to his claim.

If the topic comes up again tomorrow, I will use what you said as a counter toward his flawed "logic" .

Although he probably wont listen, because he is very set in his ways and a narrow minded person, especially when it comes to religious matters like homosexuality.

pi0x :

I can guarantee he won't agree with you. But if you stay calm and just try to reason with him, then you might have an impact. I used to believe the same way (well, I never believed the exact same way, but I used to be pretty anti-homosexual), and I've changed my opinion completely. It didn't happen in a day, and took some reasonable conversations with a good friend of mine. He didn't do all the work on his own, but he definitely had a major impact on the way I think.

And, as you said you would do, only talk about it if someone else brings the topic up. Bringing it up yourself and then arguing about just doesn't seem like a great idea.

(acidental summon) we'll i have seen that 'argument' on vizzed.people should mind there own buisiness, its none of there concern.

I see where he gets that idea, but it's completely wrong. Just because a man has sexual relations with another man, it doesn't make him a pedophile. And just because a woman molests a little girl, it doesn't make her homosexual. They are two completely different things. Now that's not to say there aren't homosexual pedophiles, but saying ALL homosexuals are pedophiles is narrow-minded logic. There are just as many heterosexual and bisexual pedophiles out there. Your friend needs a reality check, big time.

I don't really think that makes any sense. Sorry I don't get what you're saying.

Both are "deviant" sexualities. Both are wrong according to the bible and are counter to the "sexual norm." Of course having sex with children is wrong, but I have no problems with gays. What someone does in their bedroom is none of my business. Actually some of the nicest peopleI've known have been gay.

People can have opinions on whatever they want, although I don't know why someone would concern themselves with someone else's sexuality. I mean, why is it any of our business?

Comparing a Gay Person to a pedophile though is insane, and ignorant. With Homosexuality, it is two willing parties engaging in something that they enjoy. In pedophilia, you are basically taking advantage of a young mind and really damaging them for life. There is no comparison.

I would never talk to a person that was so close minded and ignorant.

Let me get this strait. Your friend said that when two consenting adults of the same gender love each other and are together, they are no different than someone who prays on underage kids? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Now, if he said that homosexuality is as wrong to him as pedophilia, that would make more sense. Back up, I do not believe that, just so nobody gets the wrong impression. I am just saying that it makes more sense because it isn't saying they are the same thing, just that he believes that they are equally as bad. Maybe that is what he meant.

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Since when?  No, I do not think your friend is correct in saying this.  There is nothing wrong with homosexuality (holy crap, homosexuals are PEOPLE.  You know, it bothers me that some people do seem not to notice that) but pedophilia, besides being a crime, also tends to lead to mental problems later on in life and the sexual relations of pedophilia are not equal (as in-- both parties don't necessarily agree).

How many pedophiles are gay people who molest little boys?

Sandusky did it, many catholic priests do it so there is a correct correlation between the two making them one in the same. Maybe not every gay person is one but there is no denying that there are a lot of gay people who are pedophiles.

Christians can be sinners and politicians can be terrorists. There is no difference between those and the statement that gays are pedophiles.

What your friend has failed to do is recognize that all forms of sexual immorality are appalling to God. Simply comparing two of them is ignorant of other forms. Sin is sin, and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). There is no comparison under God's judgment. However, most people today do not go by God's judgement. More and more people seek political correctness with the "Leave me to do my own thing" attitude.

When it comes down to it, all sexual immorality is equally offensive in God's sight --including but not limited to homosexuality, pedophilia, pornography, and sex outside of marriage. We, on the other hand, attempt to define what is right and what is wrong, and the lines seem to blur more with each day.

rcarter2 : I completely agree with your post.

A consenting, loving relationship between two adults - no different than a heterosexual relationship when you stop being obsessed with genitals and focus on the fact that two people are in love and want to show affection for each other. :/

This is not anywhere close to being a sexual predator of children.
In fact, it might be close to the opposite, because it's consensual and between to adults. :|

I agree

The problem with Christians today is that they don't read the Bible, so as a general rule whatever the Pastor or Reverend claims normally is taken directly to heart. On top of that you find that most of your Pastors have been taught to destroy any traces of Homosexuality at any and I mean ANY cost. This is true of most Baptists, Methodists, and Catholics. So most Christians don't have their own structured opinion but that of their Pastor. This is where the general "flock of sheep" Christians is led astray without actually putting two and two together.  Your friend may be an idiot, or just a misinformed idiot.