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Debate forum fair?

 
Is the debate forum really fair?
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I dont think this forum is very fair and here is why. I do not mind a one on one, two on two, etc.... or possibly even a 3 on 2 debate. But all of the sudden it is me getting man handled by a vicious group. I am a lone fighter for my cause. And i encounter the attacks of multiple opponets at the same time and simply cannot combat against an army when it is just me taking it on. If the tables were reversed you would agree with me.
I dont think this forum is very fair and here is why. I do not mind a one on one, two on two, etc.... or possibly even a 3 on 2 debate. But all of the sudden it is me getting man handled by a vicious group. I am a lone fighter for my cause. And i encounter the attacks of multiple opponets at the same time and simply cannot combat against an army when it is just me taking it on. If the tables were reversed you would agree with me.
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Hey, people don't like your opinions. Suck it up and move on. Who said debating was fair? Life is the same way.
Hey, people don't like your opinions. Suck it up and move on. Who said debating was fair? Life is the same way.
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I thought this would be the way the poll would go...

God forbid you ever had to wake up to see the news
'Cause then you really might have to know what it's like to walk a mile in someone elses shoes
I thought this would be the way the poll would go...

God forbid you ever had to wake up to see the news
'Cause then you really might have to know what it's like to walk a mile in someone elses shoes
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You haven't walked through mine and granted haven't even been through half of what I've been through, so you're not one to talk.

But I'll compromise with you: I'll agree to disagree peacefully. Even if you won't sink down to the peaceful 'hippy' mindset.
You haven't walked through mine and granted haven't even been through half of what I've been through, so you're not one to talk.

But I'll compromise with you: I'll agree to disagree peacefully. Even if you won't sink down to the peaceful 'hippy' mindset.
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Debating really isnt ever fair..and if you have a good fair opinion with good reliable arguments you could easily shut down 3 or 4 people...I do it all the time when we have our 'scored discussions' in American experience 3
Debating really isnt ever fair..and if you have a good fair opinion with good reliable arguments you could easily shut down 3 or 4 people...I do it all the time when we have our 'scored discussions' in American experience 3
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Oh John, gag me with a spoon, debates aren't a physical fight. It doesn't matter how many people disagree with you in a debate as long as you have facts and statistics as well as a valid argument. Besides, its unfair of you to say that you are in the minority here. I would say that the conservatives vastly outnumber the liberals here, whether or not they post in the Debate forum is a choice they make. So honestly, if you have a problem with people out-arguing you, then don't post in the forum any more. Maybe you can come back when you have some inkling as to what you are talking about.
Oh John, gag me with a spoon, debates aren't a physical fight. It doesn't matter how many people disagree with you in a debate as long as you have facts and statistics as well as a valid argument. Besides, its unfair of you to say that you are in the minority here. I would say that the conservatives vastly outnumber the liberals here, whether or not they post in the Debate forum is a choice they make. So honestly, if you have a problem with people out-arguing you, then don't post in the forum any more. Maybe you can come back when you have some inkling as to what you are talking about.
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Hold on.. Watch it... See it? I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you John.

You have very unpopular views, You know the price for voicing those opinions in a VERY open forum.
Hold on.. Watch it... See it? I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you John.

You have very unpopular views, You know the price for voicing those opinions in a VERY open forum.
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Well I don't post here much but when I come and take a visit I seem to think its fair, I see no cheating going on.............or do I?
Well I don't post here much but when I come and take a visit I seem to think its fair, I see no cheating going on.............or do I?
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Nasus i will hand it to you, you are a very good debater. But when i face an opponet of your caliber and several others i find it hard to hold my own ground. I mean if you were in my posistion i'm sure you would agree with me.

This is why i propose pre-set debates. Where in the begining of a thread the people allowed to comment on it are pre-determined. This is just an idea, feel free to give me some critsism



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Nasus i will hand it to you, you are a very good debater. But when i face an opponet of your caliber and several others i find it hard to hold my own ground. I mean if you were in my posistion i'm sure you would agree with me.

This is why i propose pre-set debates. Where in the begining of a thread the people allowed to comment on it are pre-determined. This is just an idea, feel free to give me some critsism



P.S. POST 400!!!
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Preset debates? This isn't the debate team man. This is just a forum.

You just happen to have very unpopular views and a vast majority of us disgaree and have as you like to scream every two seconds FACTS to back them up.
Preset debates? This isn't the debate team man. This is just a forum.

You just happen to have very unpopular views and a vast majority of us disgaree and have as you like to scream every two seconds FACTS to back them up.
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Well, I don't see why SOME of the debates can't be regulated, but that doesn't mean ALL of them have to be. I'd be happy to participate in some regulation-based debates.
Well, I don't see why SOME of the debates can't be regulated, but that doesn't mean ALL of them have to be. I'd be happy to participate in some regulation-based debates.
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Yea, i didn't mean all.... i just ment a few important ones.
Yea, i didn't mean all.... i just ment a few important ones.
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In the world of debating this forum is about as fair as it's gonna get, as several have already said. If you have unpopular views just think more about what your doing and get some facts to support yourself. If you debating against people who are just stubborn it doesn't make you a bad debater if they are the majority and refuse to see your point, it just means that they are stubborn lol. I don't think discussions should have only certain individuals tagged to it because there are going to be people who can barely keep themselves from inputting their thoughts, such as myself. I find debating fun myself, even when I'm losing. I just like learning about important topics and debate is by far the best way to do so.
In the world of debating this forum is about as fair as it's gonna get, as several have already said. If you have unpopular views just think more about what your doing and get some facts to support yourself. If you debating against people who are just stubborn it doesn't make you a bad debater if they are the majority and refuse to see your point, it just means that they are stubborn lol. I don't think discussions should have only certain individuals tagged to it because there are going to be people who can barely keep themselves from inputting their thoughts, such as myself. I find debating fun myself, even when I'm losing. I just like learning about important topics and debate is by far the best way to do so.
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I think it's fair, because, well I just do. I think it's good to share eachothers opinions, but maybe I'm just not understanding what you mean by "UNFAIR"?
I think it's fair, because, well I just do. I think it's good to share eachothers opinions, but maybe I'm just not understanding what you mean by "UNFAIR"?
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He thinks because more of us are liberal and more open minded we make it hard for him to say how much he loves Bush without getting a little backlash.
He thinks because more of us are liberal and more open minded we make it hard for him to say how much he loves Bush without getting a little backlash.
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Originally posted by Jin
He thinks because more of us are liberal and more open minded we make it hard for him to say how much he loves Bush without getting a little backlash.


Liberal does not eaqual open mindedness
Originally posted by Jin
He thinks because more of us are liberal and more open minded we make it hard for him to say how much he loves Bush without getting a little backlash.


Liberal does not eaqual open mindedness
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The dictionary says other-wise.


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1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

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1. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
2. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.

# Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
# Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
The dictionary says other-wise.


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1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

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1. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
2. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.

# Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
# Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
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Actions speak louder then words.... i will leave it at that
Actions speak louder then words.... i will leave it at that
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There's a difference between being open minded towards new ideas and other beliefs than your own and accepting them as your own.
There's a difference between being open minded towards new ideas and other beliefs than your own and accepting them as your own.
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THe whole debate forum is all messed up.
To much aruging and the opinion of kids are biased.
THe whole debate forum is all messed up.
To much aruging and the opinion of kids are biased.
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