I really, really, really like to write about knights where men are men, and emphasize masculinity. I also really, really like to write about fit women who are modest yet motherly. Nurturing the wounded, both physically and mentally, while remaining conservative in their own thoughts.

Call me old fashioned, but I miss the old style of gender roles, and I find it vastly fullfulling and romantic. It's hard to beat natural design.

It's not that I haven't written more "masculine" female characters or emphatic males, which would be the former's counterpart. But I just really, really like that fantasy realm idea of. . . beautiful, modest girls and honorable, chivalrous knights.

To me, it's ideal, and if you've read my book, seen some of my RPing or the unsubmitted chapters to the Vizzed Fantasy, you'd know it's real.

Am I the only one who really loves this construct?

The suits of armor, they must be elegant and strong. Each horse and sword needs a name and a story. Magic must be complimentary, but not overpowering. (Or else everyone would use.) Women are valued for their personalities and supportive roles and advice as opposed to physical beauty all on it's own. The natural beauty of which is obtained by the better diets of (better fed) citizens in a 12th century fantasy based world.

Love is real and not a one dimensional infatuation. Knights would die for the one individual who makes their lives mean more than to be a heavyhearted killer. Executing justice for the preservation of a society in spite of it's difficulties, and willing to do what's right even if our hearts would prefer to flee.

Maybe I'm completely infatuated by it. . . and biased. But as someone raised with pretty much only Zelda and Chronicles of Narnia. . . I would have to say the (idealized aka lacking most of the corruption the dark ages held) settings of knights and maidens in fantasy is extremely beautiful. I played Mount and Blade Warband, which completely sucked me into the atmosphere, and since then I've absolutely loved such Universes. Even leaning more realistic than fantasy, and gaining an appreciation for the good parts of European honor.

Can I just dream about a more idealized fantasy? How can women complain about a man holding the door open for her? Does she not understand how much she is being shown appreciation for in such a culture? Do these people not understand how much they are valued and honored, or what a man is saying through his actions when he partakes in these actions? This is a gift to show appreciation! We need girls! Can we not show how much we appreciate them?

I do not understand how they can complain about it. How can you feel oppressed because the opposite gender is holding the door open for you? It is but a gift! Do not women present gifts of their own to society that immeasurable in their return? God made men and women to need and support each other! They are different and complex in beautiful ways. To suppress these differences is to suppress people's identity! You know, who we really are deep down inside. What we were made to be, by our own genes. Before scocial media society corrupted us all and we tried to fill voids in the most ridiculous of measures.

You could just as easily say that men exercise chivalry out of SLAVERY towards women, because they are forced to serve and take care of them! Did anyone ever think of that?

But no, we do it, (At least I do it) Because we love the companions Yahovah has given us as men and appreciate what they have done. (Even if it's a female political ruler like Deborah, because, the Torah doesn't teach against that. Let alone the Bible. Read the book before you criticize it and have your facts straight. And if you didn't jump the gun, then it is much appreciated. Thumbs up for not jumping on the bandwagon of hate. ^^)

So yeah. . . I love writing using these traditional roles. As a writer I think about that stuff a lot and. . . the more I discovered, the more I fell in love with this plan for the Universe. Maybe I can do something better for kids than teach them how to be emo teens and abuse girls going for the next toy. Because love can be real. Gender is beautiful, and the more we erase that, the more you take away from the beauty of human design. That's my take anyways.

What do you think about it?

Sword legion : I think you're right on the money. I don't think it's sexist to (as a man) want to protect women and respect them. This isn't belittling them, this is saying, basically, that you want to fulfill your role as a man. Traditionally, women haven't fought on the battlefield for several reasons. One, because they have the duty to bear and rear children. Secondly, because men love them and don't want them to die in such a way. Thirdly, the battlefield is a tough place, not a place of joy. What comes after war is joy, but in the middle of it is sorrow, and I can see why men would not want women in the thick of it.

To say that a man's role is mainly to provide for their family and a woman's role is mainly to rear the children in goodness isn't belittling their gender identity. It's the opposite. Now, there are times when each has to step into the other's role somewhat or even quite a bit. This can be a time of testing, proving, of gaining strength from weakness. But we are genetically and spiritually designed to do specific things. It is in the other's role (man + woman) that we find our full identity. Marriage isn't just coming together, loving each other, and having children. It's a bond, a fulfilling and completing of our role through the other's role. A man cannot be complete without a woman, nor the woman without the man.

I think when you force gender roles and you require certain people to only do certain things or drive people toward a profession (home-maker?), you're cheating the potential of that individual to do greater things for the world.

What if the greatest person in the world for research and advocacy against HIV/AIDS is a female? What if we would have had the cure for HIV/AIDS discovered and treated in an inexpensive manner but it was a woman who would have found it and she was busy changing diapers instead of realizing her potential?

You see definitions of who should be doing what based on pre-determined sets of characteristics. A (very contrived) version of what you're saying is, "If you have blue eyes, your genes have determined you're better at (activity) so brown-eyed people, don't do this."

Have gender roles traditionally existed everywhere around the world? Yes. Are women genetically predisposed to do the bulk of the child-rearing activities? Yes.

But there's a social change in that we now educate women as much or more than men in many fields. This puts women at an equal footing when it comes to science, math, engineering, and more.

I could go on for pages about what's happening but I won't. I will say there's nothing wrong with romanticizing a period where men were men and women were women. However, once you remove women from any level of participation if they want, you're cheating the entire species out of our potential.

Slight confession I didn't read the entire thing but actually I do really like that sort of fantasy setting. In fact, I'm waiting for VR to be a thing just so I can experience that more fully.

Specifically, the game "The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" in VR because it's the most real fantasy game I've seen. While Skyrim did have some of that, it was overpowered by dragons and such so I couldn't get used to it. Oblivion is a beautiful game full of color, not only in the environments but in all the characters' personalities.

If Oblivion was updated to fit with todays gender roles and such, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it so much. Fantasy realms without those sort of things would just be full of useless conflict instead of the people focusing on the world at large.

Women taking roles particularly made for men is alright so long as it fits into context (i.e parents died so she wound up having to learn to protect herself and thus made her pretty strong, to rival even some men at combat) but otherwise if used improperly it just seems like they're trying so hard to morph the character to their own agenda, whether it makes sense or not.

If you like fantasy and (semi?) realism, you should really check out Oblivion. You can get realism mods too, to go extra far. There's tons of characters to interact with, they all have their own schedule, and they all have voice acting even if they used the same voice actor for different characters.

If you want something to blame for some women being unappreciative of a kind gesture,blame feminists. They do not really know what they want and they are afraid that they are losing their identity in a way. They will never admit it,of course,but they feel the need to spread their poisonous views onto everyone and screwing up what was a decent system.

Let us start with the Victorian Era for a moment. It is in this era,that being a gentleman was not only appreciated,but required. For example,people would often empty their chamber pots out of the window and a man was to ensure that the waste hit him to spare the lady embarrassment. Or if you are walking on the sidewalk and some spray is caused by a cart,a man was to act as a shield for a lady. These are simple acts that show we care.

Opening a door for a lady is considered a sign of respect and honor. Now,every country has their own views on this. In Japan,for instance,a man is to enter first. That goes back to the days of the samurai. He would enter first to ensure it was safe for a woman to enter. I believe women themselves would admit that they are confused on the social etiquette,hence the resentfulness at times.

I may not always act like a civil person on here,but when around a lady,I try to behave in a cordial and gentlemanly manner. For instance,I will escort a woman to her vehicle,I want them to be safe.

Ladies,believe it or not,this is done for you. It is done to ensure your safety and comfort. 

I may get a ton of likes or a ton of hate, but you've hit a note that is incredibly personal to me, and I'm very passionate about it, and I refuse to silence myself on it anytime I get the chance to speak up.

I am open to almost any idea you can present to me if you can show me it's merits, but this idea? No, I cannot and will not entertain it. Why? Because GOD, the God that made the universe, the God that made women, the God that made men, the God that made YOU, has already spoken on it. In fact He's practically shouted it: Men are men and women are women. Don't confuse your roles in life. Men work and fight, and women nurture and care. I'm sorry Mr. or Ms. Politically correct, but I must take the scriptures as an authority that even your modernized thinking must take the backseat to.

I think a line from a Tyler Perry movie said it best when the man said (paraphrased as the exact wording escapes me) "Men have been stripped of their identity. We have been told women do not need us. They can provide for themselves, protect themselves, and take care of themselves. We are no longer needed. We are no longer valid." speaking from a man's perspective (obviously), I have to agree with him. The idea to empower women to do everything for themselves has made man obsolete and useless in his own eyes. We are no longer needed, we are now just a convenience to be used as a woman may choose, and she can kill our kids and toss us on the street if she chooses.


On the flip side, women deep down want love, but society has indoctrinated them against true love and "romantic" writing teaches them a false love. One that resides in either sex or feminine men and female domination of said men. This is not love. Love is not about a pretty feeling. Love is about an understanding of the NEED for one another, and an appreciation of what each of you bring to the relationship. Society wishes to say that those with a classic view are oppressing women and refusing to allow them liberty like the modern view does. Excuse me, but "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage." Sound familiar?

And why is it liberty to take a woman who by nature has the instincts to nurture and care for, and tell her "leave your child with someone else! Trade your irreplaceable time with him/her for time spent punching the clock in a factory!"? Is it freedom to teach a woman to go against what she internally wanted to do to begin with? She played mama to her dollies as a toddler because even then her little mind and body knew what her creator wanted for her. What her role was in life.

This whole "choose your own thing" has caused nothing but chaos and confusion. And men are not exempt. Women are not the "bad guys", because men too are forsaking their God given purpose. Send your wife to work while you care for the children? It's perversion and a slap in God's face. You've literally taken God's plan and decided to intentionally do exactly opposite of what He said.

As for chivalry? I would love to hear a legit answer to your questions that makes sense. When a man offers to pay for a woman's food, opens a door for her, offers her his jacket, etc. he isn't demeaning her, he's doing the exact opposite! He's HONORING her! He's saying he appreciates her and her contribution to her world. These are signs of great respect to the woman, not an insult. Women are beautiful creatures (don't read anything into the use of the word " creatures", it just means they were created by God. We're all creatures of God's creation) and yes, they are meant to be protected and looked after by men. And men are meant to be STRONG, not wimps, not cowards, not doormats that let people walk all over them and their family. Men are built physically stronger for this exact reason! We are made to work for and protect our families. It's in our genes. Our blood itself.
No wonder everyone is so depressed these days...we suppress ourselves from ever meeting our true meaning in life. Do I have a purpose? According to God, yes! According to the world... No, not really. Have a nice day though.



I could go on, but I've made my point. You are absolutely correct. It's confusing to us all that society has changed things and our very nature is at war with the way we're expected to live.
Also you spoke of Deborah....can I point out that she herself said that she "arose, a MOTHER in Israel"? she led, but she did so as a mother because again, she knew it was her nature to nurture and care.

Good on you for posting this and for feeling the way you do. You sir have my utmost respect for this. May God give us more men and women with a mind like yours on this matter. Heaven knows we need them.

Oldschool777 : Let's get one thing straight first. Feminism is the movement to define and achieve equality between men and women economically, socially, politically, and culturally. The aim is to bring freedom and fairness to men and women.

Men don't suffer through feminism. Women aren't put up as more important or higher up. So when you say, "Blame feminists for being unappreciative," you're putting a huge group into a box based on the actions and voice of a small fringe group.

Are all Christians like the ones from that church that goes around and pickets and protests military funerals, saying disasters are because of homosexuals, and everyone but them is going to Hell? No. So don't automatically say, "Oh, all feminists are like the far left combative ones." That's close-minded and wrong.

I believe everyone should behave cordially and gentlemanly in front of all people, not just females. Why not treat everyone with respect, instead of just women? Can you hold a door for a man? Sure. If a woman beats a man to the door, can she hold it for him? Absolutely. That's equality.

Who says my daughter needs a man providing safety and comfort for her? She can do those things herself. I'm pretty sure Rhonda Rousey stands a better chance providing safety compared to some guy walking around with her.

A good way to show you care is allowing a woman to control her own destiny. She doesn't 'need' anyone except herself. Self-sufficiency is the ultimate in freedom. That's what Feminists want.

Hmm a Sword... Saying he likes Writing stories about Knights.

Sorry man, I can't help but that sounds very phunny. 

I don't really mind the whole thing, as long as the story or plot really makes sense.

It seems you and I are to lock horns on here a lot.

I agree that women should be given equal opportunity and pay. They spread their venom all over humanity,I am merely telling people that these misguided fools want nothing but whipped men and the freedom to spread their bile.

I am an atheist,friend. I do not believe in a God. I want to believe there is a Higher Intelligence or Being. The "christians" that do that are not true to the faith. I believe Jesus said,"Love each other,as I have loved you."

Now let us be realistic for a minute. Good manners are for everyone. But I can see how it was misread. Now if a woman arrives first and wishes to hold a door open,I will thank her and enter.

It is good to have a self-sufficient daughter,but it would be better to have that plus men that know to not act like a freaking rabid dog.

I am talking about the ones that make everyone look bad. 

Ghostbear1111 :

I do agree with you, and what you have said to a degree, but you seem a little bent on demonizing my position. . . I didn't say that women shouldn't do that anywhere! Of course she should do what's she's good at or wants to do! But not if it makes her unhappy, because she is denying who she is by ignoring her biology. And that's what I hate the most about this fake "women need equality" Ordeal is they don't get equality. Instead, people tell them to do whatever they want, and encourage them to do the opposite of what they're best fit to do. The biology should not be ignored. Even with surgery you cannot changed your DNA in a way that makes you a complete male. The same is true for your brain, which is wired vastly different at times.

Also, who says you can't run a business and still be a mom? As Barbara Corcoran said, the two most fullfilling things in life are raising a family, and building a business. . . because if you think about it. The two are the same thing.

Even Proverbs will agree with that.

You don't need to tell me what I'm saying. I'm already perfectly capable of telling other people myself, in my own post thank you.

Want to know a good way to show a woman that you care? Tell her how beautiful she is, inside and out. Tell her, she is appreciated for being herself, and for being herself as the best she can be. Hold the door for her to show it if she understands what you mean by it. Do what YOU OWE HER with your ability as a man. Doing the special things she can't do as well. That is how the two become one, no? By relying on each other and fulfilling each other's needs? Not that some independence is without value or course!

Women do not have to fall into an impossible T in order to be thought acceptable. Reality depicts that at times a woman (or a man) may have to do many things outside of their usual area of specialty in order to survive. And both genders are decent at doing tasks better assigned to just one or another. (Gardening, cooking, ect.)

That's not oppression. That's efficiency. And what a better way to be happy, than actually doing what you WANT to do? No, not the kind of "want" where you want to eat chocolate. I mean the type of want where you want to do what's best for yourself and your body deep down inside. That's what we all want, and certainly there are exceptions. But what happens when we ignore who we really are deep down inside? What's in our DNA? What's in our mind?

Well, I suppose that people will be a lot, lot, lot less happy.

You can only decide what makes you happy so far. We as humans still have our basic needs, and a lack of happiness is not only reliant upon perspective, but also the reality around us.

supernerd117 :

Yes! Exactly! These acts of kindness are done out of love and appreciation!

War requires you to be emotionally focused, something women are not as good at. It requires you use less sympathy, be physically able. . . again, things that women are not as good at as men, but are still capable of. In fact, I've been taking a second look at polygyny in case I misunderstood the OT's stance on it, but some people say that it was allowed that way widows could still be married even after their first husband died. (since the human sex ration is about 1 man for every woman.)

Women are designed to be more sympathetic! They would want to make sure that the men have considered everything and do not exact judgement hastily. They fix broken relationships in the background and want everyone to be better off an happy. Well to a degree. Of course they can't sympathize for "everyone" Some people they know deserve it! But they still won't through things to the dogs quite as quickly!

Isn't it just beautiful?

But it's so true how the genders have to step into another's field of specialty, or how the two even share roles, such as gardening, or disciplining. It all comes into affect, but so long we know WHO and WHAT we are, things can be great, and seeing that makes me very happy. ^^

Eirinn :

Thank you.

Yes, it is very personal. When you know how a real woman positively affects your life, whether it be a wife, a mother, sister or grandmother. It becomes personal. You just can't get enough of the real thing once you see it action, and something makes you want to shout about how good it is.

To be loved. . .to be nurtured. . . screw the every person for himself and independace so commonly celebrated. Humans are happiest together and when surrounded by a family. People whom they love, and who love them back. And women make these bodies so much greater. When you're down and out, but for some reason it's a female member of your family that always notices and gives you the reimbursement you need. (As for dad, he just tells you to chin up. Work is at 8:00 tomorrow)

Of course, people try to claim that this is because of social conditioning. Although those same people should probably look up Estrogen, and other chemicals, how they work in the body if the fact that women do mostly the same thing everywhere in the world doesn't speak for itself enough!

At first, I struggled to write female characters. I also failed to understand females in real life. Then I took a step back. I removed the simplest, and idealized "eager to please" helper role from my mind, and I quite looking at women as guys with. . . different parts so much.

After studying the Bible. . . watching Madoka Magica and. . . My Little Pony of all things. I made sense to me. How to write women as dynamic characters who span over a wide array of colors, are realistic, but are still like women in real life!

Since then, it has been fantastic. They say it's hard for a man to understand a woman. And I know why. It's because the way they think is different! Just. . . the order of importance. . .how they focus on the people's needs around them (unless they're really selfish)

It's great! I feel like I can really write them now! And it makes me feel. . .well, great! XP I've been studying for a long time before I made this thread. It makes me want to write the Vizzed Fantasy more but. . . I worry about who to give what roles. XP

This discovery. . it makes me want to run around and shout about the good girls I know like Eni and say "See!? This is a good woman! We NEED people like these! God bless them!"

You know what? They say that the world needs more love. . . but the very people who say this want to keep women from doing what they do best. Healing an loving.

Sword legion : Boy, I can't wait to get married I know I may have to wait a while, but I'm really looking forward to it.

supernerd117 :

I think this thread is the hype train for that. XD Who knew I could be so positive? I like this a lot more than being broody, I think will try it more often. XD

When I was young, I was pretty much that girl who tried to basically be like a tom boy or something. I guess I was that annoying feminist that you were afraid of making angry ^^'. I realized that it was a kinda stupid way to think, only acting that way because you want to "prove" to the world that you weren't even a little "girlish" at all, and nowadays I act how I want to act based on me personally. Which is pretty much the middle ground I suppose :p. And I remember when I was even younger and was like "whatev" on the whole thing that when I would play with dolls with a friend I used to have that I would have a lot of fun. Usually because it would end with the doll getting attacked by a giant squishy ball xp. The life of a Barbie is hard smh.

I agree with you, sword. My young self would have killed you for saying those things, but it is true that chemicals at the very least affect how you act a little bit. Men are stronger than woman because of their genetics, among other things. Personally I really care about people, and would want to do help any of my friends or family if they're feeling down. Whether that's just by geeking out about something, hearing them rant to me (I love hearing rants for some reason xp), it doesn't matter as long as it helps them ^^. I also get emotional at times, and I'm pretty sure I couldn't handle having to kill millions of people. To be strong, I literally need someone to be there for me and supporting me. Being independent wouldn't do me much good, even if I'm rather shy and reserved. On the Internet everyone I've met for the first time always thinks I'm a guy for some reason however. idk why, tell me :p.

I have never gotten why some women get upset when the door is held for them. It's an act of kindness, and as you said, honor. Now I've held the door open for people as well, and that's just out of being nice to people :3.

Man I can't wait to have a family of my own and have my own kids x3. Get on the hype train ppl. I know I'm getting on it early but screw it XD. And sorry if this was a little disjointed.

ZeeTee :

*hugs*

No. . . there's nothing disjointed in what you said. You spoke how you truly felt, and when it's right, it can be the most beautiful thing ever.

We really are kept in our shells by these social justice and politically correct chumps aren't we? We can't even express what we love or how it should be. And they think we're the people who are trying to tell people how it should be. XP

When we acknowledge our strengths. . . look at our weaknesses. . . as you have. We realize just how much we need each other! When God said it's not good for man to be alone, he meant it! Being lonely will drive a guy crazy, and animals as Genesis actually points out are no substitute. When God said to Adam that he was going to make a partner for him, he actually created all of the animals right in front of his eyes to show him that non of these beasts would be able to fill the hole in his heart! (Another male wouldn't work either, as we know what God did to one city that openly supported that.) XP

This is so beautiful. ZeeTee. . . you've actually emotionally moved me. I'm. . . so happy you can be the real you now! You can be a real girl! (And all did is express how much I like seeing men be men and women be women. x3) God has great things stored for those who do His will, keep his Torah (OT commands of morality) and keep on the right track.

You are probably thought of as a guy by people online because you are energetic, and spunky. That's fine! In fact online it's common to mistake genders if you don't know what to look for. I do though. I've been studying this for a long time, and my guess as far as age and gender is never that far away it seems (haha! I'm getting it! ^^)

I'm so happy. . . I am happy to see you and supernerd be happy about marriage and things. x3 I want people to be free, and how the truth will set you free! It just. . . rejuvenates and moves me. I live for the study of how to better humanity, and to see what it's done here touches me. I know the debate is not over yet. . . but wow. People hear what I am saying, and we don't have to be silent!

Thank you so much for sharing! ^^

You know now. . . it's easy to see. Whoever gets you, I believe will be very happy. Indeed they will be blessed, but only if you put value on yourself and think of the right guy who is worth YOU. That's what it means to be equally yoked. At least having some things in common. (At my current understanding. More reading for me! lol XD) ^^'

UGH, DOESN'T THIS FEEL GOOD?!?!? XD XD

ZeeTee : You're 13 and you want a family and kids? It seems awfully early to be thinking about that from where I'm standing. Kids are the hardest things to handle in life; ask any parent on this site. How did you decide on three?


Sword legion : I'm wondering if there's some irony in your saying "We really are kept in our shells by those... aren't we?" Here you are saying men should only do certain things, woman other things.

Perhaps I am misunderstood. Allow me to try again.

Women should be able to do whatever they want, whether it is raise a family or achieve discoveries in science, mathematics, and physics. Women have every right men do to be involved in the grander picture of human knowledge and culture. Women should be encouraged to test their limits with education, careers, and advancement because they have as much potential as men to add to human existence.

Should women be encouraged to do so at the expense of being home with children? Not if they want to be at home with children. Can all people benefit from having a love of their life? Yes, of course.

I'm not saying women should go it alone. I'm saying woman can go it alone. Some prefer it.

See the difference?

Sword Legion -
Eirinn :

Simply put, the reason the ultra-combative femenazis get triggered when you hold the door open for them is because they believe that men are only making passes at them in doing so. Can you say vain?

Ghostbear1111 : "X3" is actually a little text face.



I could definitely see how that could be confusing in that context, though.

ZeeTee : Trust me, you don't want to have kids at 18 or anything like that. I'm not a parent but I am very good with little kids and in addition to being around my neighbor's daughters, I remember very well how I was when I was little. I'll say straight up that I'm nowhere near ready to be a parent and I'm 20.

Can i please go off-topic a bit and ask what this thread is about? I'm a bit confused what's going on here.

Sword legion : Good morning, My lord. Your viewpoint reminds me of conservatism and traditionalism, which isn't quite a bad thing. I myself have been one who has believed and honored the traditions and ideals of days past, sir. Not that I'm incapable of change, I just appreciate former world history. Now that women have elevated themselves to a dominant position in society, I cannot fathom the ideals of modern feminism. Sure we need equality, but some misguided souls act as feminism justifies a loathing of males, and belief in superiority. Not all feminists are like this, but many sadly are. It's almost like they're just furthering their ignorance. Look at Anisa Sarkeesian for example. But, I'm getting off topic now. My point : Traditionalism is just fine, as long as it doesn't dampen society through racist and oppressive human idealism. The days of old are fascinating. Some women should appreciate inherent kindness, and not perceive it as intimidating or demeaning. What's wrong with being old-fashioned? It almost feels like we're being taken advantage of, honestly.

m0ssb3rg935 :

Yeah, I can say vain. I guess they don't look in a mirror that often. XP


Ghostbear1111 :

The difference between me and you, is basically focus. I believe you are trying to portray a focus on. . . whatever the woman likes. Meanwhile, I look back to biology, science and nature and encourage women to take the route that best suites these tools first. In fact, I would say the makeup of a woman it's common sense that after looking upon these factors, that a woman would have a much happier life as a nurturing mother and wife.

Why? No, not because I have a dogmatic and narrow view, because I have a scientifically, biologically reinforced view that would probably do a lot of people better if they just used common sense themselves. Although humans differ greatly in personality, conditioning and individuality. Our DNA and chromosomes still set the foundation at that the core. Understanding this foundation will lead the the highest amount of enlightenment and fulfillment of an individual.

Who keeps a flower in it's shell more? The one who tells the flower how beautiful she is, by being what she is? Or the person who tells the flower, with enough hard work, she can eventually morph into some gravel?

Women can be bankers, and scientists. They can even lead entire countries! But to fail to recognize the inherit things that make all of us happy is folly. Such a person, is being kept in their shell, and they will never blossom. Because they are trying to be someone who they are not. And that, is the worst kind of enslavement.

And sorry, but no. Men and women are different. Women add some the greatest elements ever into human existence. Love, and nurturing, something we as males desire fiercely to fill the holes in our own lives. But it is disproportionate to say that women can contribute just as well in the fields that men have the upper hand in. We are built differently. We are built in a way to need each other for fulfillment and to continue the species. But we will never be just as good as the other sex is, at their specialty. Although we both have very, very important and meaningful places in society. Not that women are unable to do so! There are exceptions! But even then, there is a beauty in the way they do it as a woman, and what arises because of. Again, reference to Deborah in the Torah, and of course, any good woman needs to be a mother to her children. She should also be a nurturer to her husband.

http://www.adherents.com/people/100_scientists.html


MarioLucarioFan64 :

I think it's about chivalry. I just wanted to post my thoughts about all this and what it has to do with writing. And I still love thinking about it this way.


Ultrajeff :

You mirror my own thoughts well in most of the things you have said. Indeed, modern feminism is oppressive and destructive. It is for this reason, and even because of feminists beforehand that I cannot support them. Although I haven't looked into 50's feminism as much. I hope it is understandable why the name term leaves a bad taste in my mouth thanks to the femenists of today.

Sword legion: Aww, I'm glad that I could move you by just writing a few hunderd words on something x3. Sorry that my response won't be as long as yours since I don't know how to honestly, but acting as myself is just great. And I was honestly wondering if I should even respond since I don't like replying to topics like these honestly, but your reply made it worth it~ And anyone would be lucky if they get me. I have high standards ;D

Ghostbear1111 : In the future. I mean, I would HATE to have a kid now, but in the future (like 25 or older even. my parents told me that I should wait until 30) when I'm living with someone who I love and want to spent my life with them forever, then I would want to have kids After I've been married for like 5 years (dun wanna get divorced right after kids xp). As for why, isn't it kinda so that your species can go one and not die off? And I know that humans will always have kids, but I also want my family line and stuff to go on (I'm an only child and my parents won't have anymore kids), and I just always found it kinda sad when family lines die off for some reason.

m0ssb3rg935 : Look above. I think your question can be answered above :p. And this is what happens when you don't specify everything in your post <<