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05-04-14 09:24 PM
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When I was a child, I remember watching all these exciting movies that were completely different from one another and were pretty original. I also remember seeing movies that did not try to hard to be funny, incorporated too many special effects or also make a movie just for the money. Now a days it seems that movie producers make remakes of movies that already exist just to make a quick buck. They also incorporate too many special effects into every action movie. I was channel surfing when I came across a movie, I do not remember the title of the movie, and they had a car crash in a scene. This car turned into a 50 foot explosion just from one collision and I was confused as to why they had exaggerated the effects so much. Do they do this to keep people distracted from the bad acting or because they believe this is what people want? Then we get to the comedy. Movies today incorporate so much lazy comedy, for example, I was watching a trailer for a movie and all they had in the trailer was people cursing, physically assaulting each other, men getting kicked in the privates and many racial stereotypes. So that brings me to the question, are movies just getting lazier??
When I was a child, I remember watching all these exciting movies that were completely different from one another and were pretty original. I also remember seeing movies that did not try to hard to be funny, incorporated too many special effects or also make a movie just for the money. Now a days it seems that movie producers make remakes of movies that already exist just to make a quick buck. They also incorporate too many special effects into every action movie. I was channel surfing when I came across a movie, I do not remember the title of the movie, and they had a car crash in a scene. This car turned into a 50 foot explosion just from one collision and I was confused as to why they had exaggerated the effects so much. Do they do this to keep people distracted from the bad acting or because they believe this is what people want? Then we get to the comedy. Movies today incorporate so much lazy comedy, for example, I was watching a trailer for a movie and all they had in the trailer was people cursing, physically assaulting each other, men getting kicked in the privates and many racial stereotypes. So that brings me to the question, are movies just getting lazier??
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MRK_Mr_MeXiCaN : Very good question. In fact, my sister and I have often discussed this very matter. I think they are being lazy when it comes to making movies. All I ever see are remakes of classics, and awful remakes at that. I think that they just have people on their staff that can't come up with new idea's, so they just figure, let's remake this so we can have something new in the theaters. Look at Disney for instance, they never make hand drawn animations anymore, it's all digital. I don't mind the digital but I do enjoy the older way of creating that kind of movie as well. They need some better staff or at least people who aren't so lazy that they just copy old films.
MRK_Mr_MeXiCaN : Very good question. In fact, my sister and I have often discussed this very matter. I think they are being lazy when it comes to making movies. All I ever see are remakes of classics, and awful remakes at that. I think that they just have people on their staff that can't come up with new idea's, so they just figure, let's remake this so we can have something new in the theaters. Look at Disney for instance, they never make hand drawn animations anymore, it's all digital. I don't mind the digital but I do enjoy the older way of creating that kind of movie as well. They need some better staff or at least people who aren't so lazy that they just copy old films.
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Movies are getting more lazy. just look at how many remakes they are making. Or how many cartoons they are making in to movies. And parts are coming out so fast now there is no way any heart could be put in to it. They also seem to copy off one another. If one has a fast car they all do what ever happen to the great movies?
Movies are getting more lazy. just look at how many remakes they are making. Or how many cartoons they are making in to movies. And parts are coming out so fast now there is no way any heart could be put in to it. They also seem to copy off one another. If one has a fast car they all do what ever happen to the great movies?
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I agree, many movies do not have a lot of heart but also,  I do not want to over generalize. There might be some good movies out there that are completely original that I have overlooked. Most of the movies that are talked about on the television are remakes and most of them do seem similar.
I agree, many movies do not have a lot of heart but also,  I do not want to over generalize. There might be some good movies out there that are completely original that I have overlooked. Most of the movies that are talked about on the television are remakes and most of them do seem similar.
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It isn't laziness.  Movies cost so much money to make they have to return their investment.  The heads of Hollywood know people will pay their 10 bucks to watch Ironman fly around and make jokes or see Spiderman fly around, so they just redo it over and over.  When people start demanding more intelligent movies, we'll get better movies.  I don't watch super hero movies because they're all the same and they just rehash old stories.

However, the general public loves it because they know what they're getting and they'll pay the movie.  Movie studios are in the business of making money, not telling compelling, well developed, insightful, mindful stories.  They know what works and they do that.

Lazy?  No.  Uncreative?  Sure.  Stop seeing the current movies and something better may show up.
It isn't laziness.  Movies cost so much money to make they have to return their investment.  The heads of Hollywood know people will pay their 10 bucks to watch Ironman fly around and make jokes or see Spiderman fly around, so they just redo it over and over.  When people start demanding more intelligent movies, we'll get better movies.  I don't watch super hero movies because they're all the same and they just rehash old stories.

However, the general public loves it because they know what they're getting and they'll pay the movie.  Movie studios are in the business of making money, not telling compelling, well developed, insightful, mindful stories.  They know what works and they do that.

Lazy?  No.  Uncreative?  Sure.  Stop seeing the current movies and something better may show up.
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I was going to say more or less what
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I think media in general has got lazy, in regards to the fact that they know what people will buy.
A fundamental issue in media, is the high cost associations. This is particularly evident in movies, where big films swallow hundreds of millions of dollars. This money is tied up until release, which means if something bad happens to the company before release, or the film is a disaster, it can ruin entire company's in a single day.
a good example is Heaven's gate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28film%29
This film bombed hard, and almost destroyed the investing company. Its not the only example, a lot of films went the same way around that time (1980's and before).
A result of that was that no one studio or company usually puts down all the money now. Lots of people and industries buy into the production. That means they dont need to invest as much, and there risk is lower, if they lose, they dont lose everything they have.
To that end, its a lot harder to change the formula, there are a lot of people to please.
Even today, films occasionally bomb if they mess up the formula, look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs
If memory serves, walt disney actually fired there lead director after making john carter, because that film lost over $100 million. I dont know if walt disney financed it all themselve, certainly they can afford the loss, but most other company's cant.

With gaming, there was a major issue culminating in titles like e.t, which bombd and shattered faith in the industry, causing the industry to almost collapse worldwide. Developers got lazy, too many small companys existed firing out half finished games, and like the movie industry, that too led to a change, where now, massive companys either directly make, or fund the majority of games. The media industry is tightly owned and controlled to try and avoid these repeat costs, and there is a public vote on this everyday. When you give them money for there product, you are voicing approval. That is the capitalistic voting system.
Take a title like call of duty. Since modern warfare 1, they have sent the same game to market, with different maps and different guns. If you show a stranger to the series two moder call of duty titles and ask them which came first, they wont be able to tell you.
Every year, they have a new title,a glorified dlc pack, that they launch as a full game. And they keep doing it because people are stupid enough to buy it.
At the end of the day, its their business and they are free to do with it as they please, but so long as people pay them they will continue to do it.
Currently, the latest call of duty (ghosts) has around 20% less sales than the title before (black ops 2 i think). Its 30% down on the tile before that (modern warfare 355 probably).
The next title seems to resemble a cross between crysis and titanfall, two very successfull titles. They are attempting to win back consumer support. It does appear they are still reluctant to do any work themselves, and instead copy others formulas, but thattoo is a pretty typical reaction of media companys. They make what they think will sell.
They could make a film about a robot that was sent from another planet to earth, is tasked with weakening humanity from within, and is faced with questions in regards to morality, religion, humanity, at what point something becomes alive etc, but its an untested forumala, they dont know if you the consumer, will pay to see it.
If you had 100 million in the bank, and I asked for 90 to make this movie, would you really want to risk it?
Despite what the industry says, they dont make this stuff for passion. They make it, to make money. You control how much money they make or lose, and they study that. Its like a lab rat, give it cheese when it does something right, give it the spray bottle when it does wrong. Thats how the industry evolves. Right now the rats being given a little too much cheese for doing very little of worth.
I was going to say more or less what
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I think media in general has got lazy, in regards to the fact that they know what people will buy.
A fundamental issue in media, is the high cost associations. This is particularly evident in movies, where big films swallow hundreds of millions of dollars. This money is tied up until release, which means if something bad happens to the company before release, or the film is a disaster, it can ruin entire company's in a single day.
a good example is Heaven's gate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28film%29
This film bombed hard, and almost destroyed the investing company. Its not the only example, a lot of films went the same way around that time (1980's and before).
A result of that was that no one studio or company usually puts down all the money now. Lots of people and industries buy into the production. That means they dont need to invest as much, and there risk is lower, if they lose, they dont lose everything they have.
To that end, its a lot harder to change the formula, there are a lot of people to please.
Even today, films occasionally bomb if they mess up the formula, look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs
If memory serves, walt disney actually fired there lead director after making john carter, because that film lost over $100 million. I dont know if walt disney financed it all themselve, certainly they can afford the loss, but most other company's cant.

With gaming, there was a major issue culminating in titles like e.t, which bombd and shattered faith in the industry, causing the industry to almost collapse worldwide. Developers got lazy, too many small companys existed firing out half finished games, and like the movie industry, that too led to a change, where now, massive companys either directly make, or fund the majority of games. The media industry is tightly owned and controlled to try and avoid these repeat costs, and there is a public vote on this everyday. When you give them money for there product, you are voicing approval. That is the capitalistic voting system.
Take a title like call of duty. Since modern warfare 1, they have sent the same game to market, with different maps and different guns. If you show a stranger to the series two moder call of duty titles and ask them which came first, they wont be able to tell you.
Every year, they have a new title,a glorified dlc pack, that they launch as a full game. And they keep doing it because people are stupid enough to buy it.
At the end of the day, its their business and they are free to do with it as they please, but so long as people pay them they will continue to do it.
Currently, the latest call of duty (ghosts) has around 20% less sales than the title before (black ops 2 i think). Its 30% down on the tile before that (modern warfare 355 probably).
The next title seems to resemble a cross between crysis and titanfall, two very successfull titles. They are attempting to win back consumer support. It does appear they are still reluctant to do any work themselves, and instead copy others formulas, but thattoo is a pretty typical reaction of media companys. They make what they think will sell.
They could make a film about a robot that was sent from another planet to earth, is tasked with weakening humanity from within, and is faced with questions in regards to morality, religion, humanity, at what point something becomes alive etc, but its an untested forumala, they dont know if you the consumer, will pay to see it.
If you had 100 million in the bank, and I asked for 90 to make this movie, would you really want to risk it?
Despite what the industry says, they dont make this stuff for passion. They make it, to make money. You control how much money they make or lose, and they study that. Its like a lab rat, give it cheese when it does something right, give it the spray bottle when it does wrong. Thats how the industry evolves. Right now the rats being given a little too much cheese for doing very little of worth.
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I don't think this at all, I think movies are now as good as they have ever been. For me, I love a movie that has good drama and acting, and I think a ton of recent movies have that. For the last two years, I would look at Prisoners, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Non Stop, Gravity, The Great Gatsby, and Transcendence. Only a few of these have had outstanding special effects, but they all had an amazing story in my opinion, had great acting, and the right amount of drama.
I don't think this at all, I think movies are now as good as they have ever been. For me, I love a movie that has good drama and acting, and I think a ton of recent movies have that. For the last two years, I would look at Prisoners, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Non Stop, Gravity, The Great Gatsby, and Transcendence. Only a few of these have had outstanding special effects, but they all had an amazing story in my opinion, had great acting, and the right amount of drama.
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I believe movie creators have been getting more lazy. A lot of movies haven't really been that great lately. I'm not a fan of all of those Christian movies either, considering the fact that i'm not a Christian, but still, I have seen some movies have the exact same plot, just with different characters.
I believe movie creators have been getting more lazy. A lot of movies haven't really been that great lately. I'm not a fan of all of those Christian movies either, considering the fact that i'm not a Christian, but still, I have seen some movies have the exact same plot, just with different characters.
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The creativity of movies has really gone down the drain. I used to watch lots of movies when I was younger and now I rarely watch movies presented these days. I am sort of sick of seeing lots of remakes. What happened to the original movie creations?
The creativity of movies has really gone down the drain. I used to watch lots of movies when I was younger and now I rarely watch movies presented these days. I am sort of sick of seeing lots of remakes. What happened to the original movie creations?
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I think they just went away. When I was younger I also enjoyed movies that were completely original. Almost everything today just seems to be a remake of an older version with a slight story change or updated graphics. I guess things were simpler in the past.
I think they just went away. When I was younger I also enjoyed movies that were completely original. Almost everything today just seems to be a remake of an older version with a slight story change or updated graphics. I guess things were simpler in the past.
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The best movies nowadays are movies based on books or things that happened in real life, so I would say that movies are getting lazier indeed.
The best movies nowadays are movies based on books or things that happened in real life, so I would say that movies are getting lazier indeed.
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This is such a typical opinion about most enterntainment: "where's the creativity" "it's like their running out of ideas" etc.
But in reality I think it boils down is two things:

1. When we are younger, we are less experienced, we have seen less, and are more easily impressed. The more movies you see, the harder it becomes to see something original. We get more used the 'flow' of many different types of movies, and plots and character types are more instinctively predictable.

Also, when you thinking back on movies you watched when you were younger, you have a "nostalgic" feeling, and it becomes hard to truly critically judge them.

2. When you look at old movies... it's mostly the popular or good ones that survive. Apart from a few memorable flops, most movies that, while maybe critically did ok, where just not memorable are not really spoken about. When you think of "old movies" you forget the forgetable ones.

But trying to explain that to anyone is practically impossible; movies, like music, suffers the typical 'the modern stuff is crap' treatment.
This is such a typical opinion about most enterntainment: "where's the creativity" "it's like their running out of ideas" etc.
But in reality I think it boils down is two things:

1. When we are younger, we are less experienced, we have seen less, and are more easily impressed. The more movies you see, the harder it becomes to see something original. We get more used the 'flow' of many different types of movies, and plots and character types are more instinctively predictable.

Also, when you thinking back on movies you watched when you were younger, you have a "nostalgic" feeling, and it becomes hard to truly critically judge them.

2. When you look at old movies... it's mostly the popular or good ones that survive. Apart from a few memorable flops, most movies that, while maybe critically did ok, where just not memorable are not really spoken about. When you think of "old movies" you forget the forgetable ones.

But trying to explain that to anyone is practically impossible; movies, like music, suffers the typical 'the modern stuff is crap' treatment.
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I pretty much agree.....the movies back in the day was great. Because the creators took their time, to make it right for people. nowadays....uh its just lazy...reason being why I hardly go to the cinema. Or more like can't find something good to watch. Many movies now are poor and lost in quality to see and to watch. And more of the reasons as of why. I go back to watching the original ones on the Internet.
I pretty much agree.....the movies back in the day was great. Because the creators took their time, to make it right for people. nowadays....uh its just lazy...reason being why I hardly go to the cinema. Or more like can't find something good to watch. Many movies now are poor and lost in quality to see and to watch. And more of the reasons as of why. I go back to watching the original ones on the Internet.
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Well I do not think so. There are still a ton of good movies out there to choose from.
 
 Not all of them can be good and get $500,000,000.
Well I do not think so. There are still a ton of good movies out there to choose from.
 
 Not all of them can be good and get $500,000,000.
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I think so. Outside of Godzilla there really has not been  any games that I have just really wanted to go see. Some people are exited about the new Star Wars but I am not holding my breath. They worry to much about special effects  ( I'm looking at you Michael Bay ) and selling tickets and not about content. 
I think so. Outside of Godzilla there really has not been  any games that I have just really wanted to go see. Some people are exited about the new Star Wars but I am not holding my breath. They worry to much about special effects  ( I'm looking at you Michael Bay ) and selling tickets and not about content. 
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That is true: I'm not saying that movies are dead. Most of the good movies that I have seen are not real famous and actually have a small budget to make the movie. It contributes greatly to the dependence on an actual storyline and not just how many explosions, car crashes and people fighting they can fit in (I like that Michael bay reference ha ha). At the drive in located in my city they often show very good films, and some are black and white movies from the 1960's I believe. These are very good films that, I admit, I probably would not watch due to lack of resources and time. These are some very interesting perspectives and I am glad everyone took some time to respond to this and hope others will continue to respond.
That is true: I'm not saying that movies are dead. Most of the good movies that I have seen are not real famous and actually have a small budget to make the movie. It contributes greatly to the dependence on an actual storyline and not just how many explosions, car crashes and people fighting they can fit in (I like that Michael bay reference ha ha). At the drive in located in my city they often show very good films, and some are black and white movies from the 1960's I believe. These are very good films that, I admit, I probably would not watch due to lack of resources and time. These are some very interesting perspectives and I am glad everyone took some time to respond to this and hope others will continue to respond.
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Yes, movies are getting lames there used to be so many different types of movies and that kind of thing, but now they are all about sex or war.
Yes, movies are getting lames there used to be so many different types of movies and that kind of thing, but now they are all about sex or war.
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Well yes..... and no. I agree that there used to be a wider variety of movies, but there are newer innovations that have or are going to create an even newer variety of films. There'll be new, exciting ideas, unlike anything ever brought to the silver screen prior. So yes, there are more of the same movies out there, but newer genres are rolling in as we speak.
Well yes..... and no. I agree that there used to be a wider variety of movies, but there are newer innovations that have or are going to create an even newer variety of films. There'll be new, exciting ideas, unlike anything ever brought to the silver screen prior. So yes, there are more of the same movies out there, but newer genres are rolling in as we speak.
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