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All right guys. We all know about the Xbox One and the PS4. Now most of us are sticking with our traditional console franchise that we had for last gen. In my case, I have a Xbox 360, and I'm getting a Xbox One. As the title suggests, I'm going explain the known facts about both consoles, and in my opinion, which one is better. Here's a little disclaimer for you though, I might be bias about my pick, so I'll probably ramble about the Xbox One more than the PS4. Its an impossible inevitability. Now with that out of the way, I'm gonna explain some major factors about the systems. First comes out to bat is hardware. Now both consoles have a powerful 8 core CPU. Xbox One has a custom built 8 core CPU. Microsoft, with all the cash its sitting on and all the money they're investing into the Xbox One, it may be quite powerful, but only time will tell. The PS4 however, has a Single Chip Custom x86 AMD "Jaguar" 8 Core CPU. This Jaguar 8 Core is a very good 8 core, but we will see which one is better when more details about Microsoft's custom 8 core is revealed. On to the GPU. The Xbox One's GPU chip is D3D11.1 - 32MB embedded. That's nothing special though compared to the PS4's 1.84 TFlops AMD Radeon Graphics Core. This GPU is one of the best ones out there right now and is renowned. In terms of RAM, both consoles have 8 GB RAM cores however, the Xbox One has the very fast 8 GB DDR3 processor, its been proven and tested, basically, it can handle the weight of these next-gen games that are coming out. The PS4 has the newer 8 GB GDDR5 processor, that is faster and more bandwidth. Unfortunately, with bandwidth, comes latency, but the PS4's RAM processor passes any problems to the extremely powerful GPU. In the Features section of hardware, the Xbox One is more focused toward this "Everything in one" entertainment box idea. so you know, you can stream and record TV, go on the Internet, and so on. The PS4 is geared toward the gaming system idea. Sure, it has some multi-media functions, but not as much as the Xbox One, especially now that Microsoft owns Skype and Cloud. In my honest opinion, I cant care less about these multi-media functions, and if I do get a Xbox One which I likely will, 98 percent of the time I will spend on it, it will on the game's. Now come's the exclusives. This the main reason why I will be getting the Xbox One. Now Microsoft has Halo, which is an awesome first-person shooter that deals with intergalactic warfare. Gears of War which I don't think any more games will be added to the franchise, but still, there might be a HD collection or something of that sort. We have Fable, which in my opinion is one of the best RPG franchises to date with all of the humor and fantastic gameplay that comes with it, but I'll save a review of the Fable series for another time. Microsoft has Max Payne which isn't to major but still, is a nice addition. We have Titanfall, which there is a lot of hype around that and is supposably gonna be a "COD Killer", but we all know how Killzone 2 came out, which was a bust. We also got Dead Rising 3, which is a revolutionary zombie game with all the zombie's it shows on screen at once. And finally, we have Forza 5, which is a superb racing sim and is renowned for its gameplay. Ok, now time to state the Sony exclusives. I don't own a PS3 so I will try my best to describe and state these games. They have Uncharted, which is a adventure game renowned for its story telling I believe. They have Little Big Planet which is a sandbox game which allows you to create a humongous variety of worlds. You got Last Of Us, which was a huge hit and there could be a sequel for next-gen. They have Killzone, which I mentioned earlier, its a futuristic first person shooter. They got Infamous, which is a very popular title and everybody is anticipating the new entry in the series, second son. Now lucky for us, Sony lost rights to two major franchises that are renowned and loved by gamers worldwide, and that would be metal gear solid and kingdom hearts, two series I'm a big fan of. These game are loved and have been around for years and everybody is very much anticipating these games, especially kingdom hearts 3. Well the main reason why Xbox has better exclusives is likely due that since Microsoft has tons, literally tons of money, they can just dump it the best game developers. Now, The marketing states of these two company's are pretty good, but from this standpoint, Microsoft appears to be in the lead. Why you may ask? Its because Microsoft has always been more aggressive but Sony is more loyal. If you haven't noticed, Microsoft products have been less powerful than Sony's but they still seem to sell more. Its because Microsoft likes to be up in your face when advertising, not really talk about the strength about their system, but rather how many features they got. So in thus case, consumers think more is good right? not when the quality of these features are not substantial compared to the competitors operating system. Sony has always been stating the quality of their system, playing more conservative with these types of thing, which isn't a bad thing, not at all. Now the PS4 makes you pay to use the online features, so they don't have all that "free online" crap going for them any more. However there is a 100 dollar price difference between the consoles, the Xbox One being at 500 USD and The PS4 being at 400 USD, so they have that. To conclude, the PS4 does seem to be in the lead but not far ahead of the Xbox One. As for me, I am likely getting a Xbox One due to the quality of the exclusives. Sony does lead in Hardware, but Microsoft is leading in Exclusives and Marketing. Nothing much to explain other than the 1067 words I just wrote, but I would like your opinion and comments down there below, and also anything you would like to add on to this. I hope you learned some important facts from this. First comes out to bat is hardware. Now both consoles have a powerful 8 core CPU. Xbox One has a custom built 8 core CPU. Microsoft, with all the cash its sitting on and all the money they're investing into the Xbox One, it may be quite powerful, but only time will tell. The PS4 however, has a Single Chip Custom x86 AMD "Jaguar" 8 Core CPU. This Jaguar 8 Core is a very good 8 core, but we will see which one is better when more details about Microsoft's custom 8 core is revealed. On to the GPU. The Xbox One's GPU chip is D3D11.1 - 32MB embedded. That's nothing special though compared to the PS4's 1.84 TFlops AMD Radeon Graphics Core. This GPU is one of the best ones out there right now and is renowned. In terms of RAM, both consoles have 8 GB RAM cores however, the Xbox One has the very fast 8 GB DDR3 processor, its been proven and tested, basically, it can handle the weight of these next-gen games that are coming out. The PS4 has the newer 8 GB GDDR5 processor, that is faster and more bandwidth. Unfortunately, with bandwidth, comes latency, but the PS4's RAM processor passes any problems to the extremely powerful GPU. In the Features section of hardware, the Xbox One is more focused toward this "Everything in one" entertainment box idea. so you know, you can stream and record TV, go on the Internet, and so on. The PS4 is geared toward the gaming system idea. Sure, it has some multi-media functions, but not as much as the Xbox One, especially now that Microsoft owns Skype and Cloud. In my honest opinion, I cant care less about these multi-media functions, and if I do get a Xbox One which I likely will, 98 percent of the time I will spend on it, it will on the game's. Now come's the exclusives. This the main reason why I will be getting the Xbox One. Now Microsoft has Halo, which is an awesome first-person shooter that deals with intergalactic warfare. Gears of War which I don't think any more games will be added to the franchise, but still, there might be a HD collection or something of that sort. We have Fable, which in my opinion is one of the best RPG franchises to date with all of the humor and fantastic gameplay that comes with it, but I'll save a review of the Fable series for another time. Microsoft has Max Payne which isn't to major but still, is a nice addition. We have Titanfall, which there is a lot of hype around that and is supposably gonna be a "COD Killer", but we all know how Killzone 2 came out, which was a bust. We also got Dead Rising 3, which is a revolutionary zombie game with all the zombie's it shows on screen at once. And finally, we have Forza 5, which is a superb racing sim and is renowned for its gameplay. Ok, now time to state the Sony exclusives. I don't own a PS3 so I will try my best to describe and state these games. They have Uncharted, which is a adventure game renowned for its story telling I believe. They have Little Big Planet which is a sandbox game which allows you to create a humongous variety of worlds. You got Last Of Us, which was a huge hit and there could be a sequel for next-gen. They have Killzone, which I mentioned earlier, its a futuristic first person shooter. They got Infamous, which is a very popular title and everybody is anticipating the new entry in the series, second son. Now lucky for us, Sony lost rights to two major franchises that are renowned and loved by gamers worldwide, and that would be metal gear solid and kingdom hearts, two series I'm a big fan of. These game are loved and have been around for years and everybody is very much anticipating these games, especially kingdom hearts 3. Well the main reason why Xbox has better exclusives is likely due that since Microsoft has tons, literally tons of money, they can just dump it the best game developers. Now, The marketing states of these two company's are pretty good, but from this standpoint, Microsoft appears to be in the lead. Why you may ask? Its because Microsoft has always been more aggressive but Sony is more loyal. If you haven't noticed, Microsoft products have been less powerful than Sony's but they still seem to sell more. Its because Microsoft likes to be up in your face when advertising, not really talk about the strength about their system, but rather how many features they got. So in thus case, consumers think more is good right? not when the quality of these features are not substantial compared to the competitors operating system. Sony has always been stating the quality of their system, playing more conservative with these types of thing, which isn't a bad thing, not at all. Now the PS4 makes you pay to use the online features, so they don't have all that "free online" crap going for them any more. However there is a 100 dollar price difference between the consoles, the Xbox One being at 500 USD and The PS4 being at 400 USD, so they have that. To conclude, the PS4 does seem to be in the lead but not far ahead of the Xbox One. As for me, I am likely getting a Xbox One due to the quality of the exclusives. Sony does lead in Hardware, but Microsoft is leading in Exclusives and Marketing. Nothing much to explain other than the 1067 words I just wrote, but I would like your opinion and comments down there below, and also anything you would like to add on to this. I hope you learned some important facts from this. |
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lozraper29 : I can't believe nobody saw this thread and replied! D: Great comparison, it has everything you need in there. Keep up the good work and maybe some day people will notice your awesome work. Great comparison, it has everything you need in there. Keep up the good work and maybe some day people will notice your awesome work. |
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lozraper29 : That's pretty nice to read the comparison between the PS4 and the X1 you've posted, I'm planning on getting the PS4 when I'm pretty much finished with my PS3 which won't be for a little while because I've been sticking with Sony for a long time. |
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1. No offense but your spelling could be better. Not every word has a "'s" on the end and you need to learn when not to do this.
2. Hardware really doesn't matter in a system because you buy a console to game and the games matter the most. 3. There really aren't many exclusives to Xbox other than straight shooting games and that's not my genre of gaming. You missed most of the exclusives for PS since you only considered western gaming. PS has been and always will be the home of good Japanese games and to leave that out makes PS seem like it will have a much smaller library. PS is chock full of lesser known series that you really should look up before making this comparison. 2. Hardware really doesn't matter in a system because you buy a console to game and the games matter the most. 3. There really aren't many exclusives to Xbox other than straight shooting games and that's not my genre of gaming. You missed most of the exclusives for PS since you only considered western gaming. PS has been and always will be the home of good Japanese games and to leave that out makes PS seem like it will have a much smaller library. PS is chock full of lesser known series that you really should look up before making this comparison. |
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NameEntry : Does it look like we live Japan? I think not. And just so you know, Xbox One's exclusives aren't only shooters. Other than the spectacular shooter exclusives we have, Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Below, Project Spark, and D4. And for some people, Hardware does matter, that's why I stated it, because in my opinion it doesn't matter, but I'm looking at a neutral view, and not in my opinion. Lesser know series don't matter in this case, because I'll say it once again, I tried wrote that at a neutral position, okay? Not everyone plays eastern games over here in the west. Also, my writing gets the job done, so you dont have to be so correct about everything. I didnt write this for you, I wrote this for everyone. Also, just to relay new info, PS4 fans have been petitioning for Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Sunset Overdrive, and Ryse to come to PS4. If one of them magically comes to PS4, Microsoft is supplying them as much money as they need to make a spectacular game. If that deal is broken, and the game becomes mainstream, then the game will be worse, or not as good as original was going to be, losing a lot of potential because they wont be receiving as much money to make the game good. Also its already confirmed, no matter what, Insomniac's Sunset Overdrive will not go to PS4. Also, just to relay new info, PS4 fans have been petitioning for Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Sunset Overdrive, and Ryse to come to PS4. If one of them magically comes to PS4, Microsoft is supplying them as much money as they need to make a spectacular game. If that deal is broken, and the game becomes mainstream, then the game will be worse, or not as good as original was going to be, losing a lot of potential because they wont be receiving as much money to make the game good. Also its already confirmed, no matter what, Insomniac's Sunset Overdrive will not go to PS4. |
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I really love the controller of the PS4. Especially the blue light at the top. I hear that the light is useful for quite a few gaming aspects, and are for both single player and multplayer. I really love the controller of the PS4. Especially the blue light at the top. I hear that the light is useful for quite a few gaming aspects, and are for both single player and multplayer. |
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For me, the PS4 easily beats the XBox One, no doubt. The reasons are simple: PS4 already offers far more variety in their games, as well as being more practical. I mean, we buy game consoles to play games, not watch TV etc. If I want to watch TV, I'll turn off the console and watch TV, or if I want Multi-Media uses, I'll use my phone or computer. Microsoft seems to be trying to bridge the gap between the Laptop/Desktop, and the gaming consoles, which is a bad idea to me.
That's all just one gamer's opinions though. This, however, is a fact: Microsoft is more concerned with money, and less concerned with loyalty to their customers. How so? Microsoft initially said several stupid things "No sharing, trading, selling, or buying used games (because we want the money). You have to stay connected to the internet, or we won't let you play games that you already paid full price for (why? So you'll have to pay us repeatedly so you can play games that you've already paid for. So if you buy one game, and play it for five years, you in essence pay for that game several times. We make money continuously off of the same game). You have to Pay to play a game with your friends (Why? More money for us!)" Now, in all of that, where was there any loyalty to their loyal customers? Also I'm aware that some of these things have been changed, but only because people were telling them that they weren't going to give them money for their product because of those things. No money: that's the only thing that got Microsoft's attention I'm not trying to insult the XBox fans by stating my opinions on their preferred company, and I apologize if I am. I'm just offering an opinion. The PS4 offered (from the start) the ability to play your games without internet (Gaming OFFline and with no connection? What new fangled idea is this???); the freedom to share, give, sell, or buy used games; freedom to play games with your friends, free of charge (makes sense, right? Why should I have to pay for my friend's game, when they already have?); a lower price that more people can afford (though admittedly, this was a business move: undercut their price, and sell more). And what did Microsoft say when people asked about their fans that couldn't afford $500? "We have something for them too: it's called the XBox 360". That's a quote! They just gave their loyal customers a verbal slap in the face! They said "Can't afford it? Too bad! You can settle on an older console". That upset me more than anything. We work our tails off making money to pay our bills, and we somehow manage to fork out an additional $400 for a system that they Mass-Produce, and all they can say is "too bad, it isn't our problem" if we can't afford an extra hundred? That statement screams "We don't care about our customers that stood by our side through the last ten years, out of sheer loyalty". Let's be honest, the PS3 and XBox 360 were too evenly matched to really have much more to go by than loyalty. And after all of that, they spit in the poor people's faces with a statement like that. Again, these are all just my personal opinions (and some facts stated from my perspective), and if they offended anyone, I sincerely apologize. Rather than argue about our console preference, we could just focus on our mutual love for gaming. Make the choices you will, and happy gaming! ![]() On a side note, lozraper29, you should be careful. You got a little carried away, and were quiet insulting toward NameEntry, when he respectfully offered an opinion. I can see why you were offended, but you might want to cool down before replying next time. ![]() That's all just one gamer's opinions though. This, however, is a fact: Microsoft is more concerned with money, and less concerned with loyalty to their customers. How so? Microsoft initially said several stupid things "No sharing, trading, selling, or buying used games (because we want the money). You have to stay connected to the internet, or we won't let you play games that you already paid full price for (why? So you'll have to pay us repeatedly so you can play games that you've already paid for. So if you buy one game, and play it for five years, you in essence pay for that game several times. We make money continuously off of the same game). You have to Pay to play a game with your friends (Why? More money for us!)" Now, in all of that, where was there any loyalty to their loyal customers? Also I'm aware that some of these things have been changed, but only because people were telling them that they weren't going to give them money for their product because of those things. No money: that's the only thing that got Microsoft's attention I'm not trying to insult the XBox fans by stating my opinions on their preferred company, and I apologize if I am. I'm just offering an opinion. The PS4 offered (from the start) the ability to play your games without internet (Gaming OFFline and with no connection? What new fangled idea is this???); the freedom to share, give, sell, or buy used games; freedom to play games with your friends, free of charge (makes sense, right? Why should I have to pay for my friend's game, when they already have?); a lower price that more people can afford (though admittedly, this was a business move: undercut their price, and sell more). And what did Microsoft say when people asked about their fans that couldn't afford $500? "We have something for them too: it's called the XBox 360". That's a quote! They just gave their loyal customers a verbal slap in the face! They said "Can't afford it? Too bad! You can settle on an older console". That upset me more than anything. We work our tails off making money to pay our bills, and we somehow manage to fork out an additional $400 for a system that they Mass-Produce, and all they can say is "too bad, it isn't our problem" if we can't afford an extra hundred? That statement screams "We don't care about our customers that stood by our side through the last ten years, out of sheer loyalty". Let's be honest, the PS3 and XBox 360 were too evenly matched to really have much more to go by than loyalty. And after all of that, they spit in the poor people's faces with a statement like that. Again, these are all just my personal opinions (and some facts stated from my perspective), and if they offended anyone, I sincerely apologize. Rather than argue about our console preference, we could just focus on our mutual love for gaming. Make the choices you will, and happy gaming! ![]() On a side note, lozraper29, you should be careful. You got a little carried away, and were quiet insulting toward NameEntry, when he respectfully offered an opinion. I can see why you were offended, but you might want to cool down before replying next time. ![]() |
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Yeah I am with Eirinn on this, the Ps4 is just so much better in my opinion, there are a variety of games, and you do not need the internet to play games which is a big plus and it is probably one of the worst features of Xbox 1 in my opinion. I mean I would not want to rely on internet just to be able to play a simple game. Not to mention you can play with as many friends as you want and you don't have to pay for them to play with you which is really dumb even if they have he game. So my favor is leaning towards Ps4 by a great margin just because the features are better and you don't have to pay or go through the trouble of any of that if you want to play with your friends which is the way it should be in my opinion. It shouldn't be a hassle to try and enjoy a game with a friend. And again, I think that just angers me the way they say it isn't their problem if you can't afford it and you have to resort to an older generation console. Honestly I think Xbox 360 is much better than xbox1, it is just better and the features aren't annoying either, so that is just my opinion on this, but I think you and eirinn both give a lot of detailed points and explanations about this topic. So good job with that, you are very thorough with all of your facts which is a good thing. So my favor is leaning towards Ps4 by a great margin just because the features are better and you don't have to pay or go through the trouble of any of that if you want to play with your friends which is the way it should be in my opinion. It shouldn't be a hassle to try and enjoy a game with a friend. And again, I think that just angers me the way they say it isn't their problem if you can't afford it and you have to resort to an older generation console. Honestly I think Xbox 360 is much better than xbox1, it is just better and the features aren't annoying either, so that is just my opinion on this, but I think you and eirinn both give a lot of detailed points and explanations about this topic. So good job with that, you are very thorough with all of your facts which is a good thing. |
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Eirinn : I absolutely adore your opinion. Now I'm not saying I agree with your opinion, but at least I know you care, and I know that you are a true gamer due to the amount you wrote. That is exactly what I'm asking for. I want people to ramble on why they choose which console, and not a simple paragraph, but I digress. I terribly disagree with the second paragraph you wrote. You see, the main reason why Microsoft choose to limit sharing games and to limit playing offline was to bring a prime gaming experience. Ok, let me explain why they choose to limit sharing games. Do you know whats killing the gaming industry? Used games. Why? Because keep in mind when you buy a used game, the money goes to Gamestop, and the hard working people that make the games. And in my experience, most people buy their game used to save a few dollars. This is why when a company expects to get a lot of money for one of their hits, and they don't get a lot of money, the sequel usually blows just because their budget has to be set lower, because they don't have as much money, and this can lead to a company filing for bankruptcy . In this case, Black Ops 1 and 2 are a prime example. The reason why they choose to limit playing offline is because to enhance the online capabilities. You see, with everyone playing online, Its easier to make games with intense online capabilities such as Forza 5. And plus cloud can add new content and achievements without downloading nothing. I didn't like how Microsoft did a complete 180 and change a lot. I preferred how it was, but there is only so much you can do. And as is I stated earlier, there is speculation they're gonna drop the price to 400 USD. And one more thing, don't use parenthesis so much, ironically, it makes your writing much less organized. And I do agree with you. I dont care about the multi-media functions that are on the Xbox One, but chances are, I will find myself using them once in a while, so I'm glad they come with the package. I apologize to NameEntry if I offended him, I did get carried away. I terribly disagree with the second paragraph you wrote. You see, the main reason why Microsoft choose to limit sharing games and to limit playing offline was to bring a prime gaming experience. Ok, let me explain why they choose to limit sharing games. Do you know whats killing the gaming industry? Used games. Why? Because keep in mind when you buy a used game, the money goes to Gamestop, and the hard working people that make the games. And in my experience, most people buy their game used to save a few dollars. This is why when a company expects to get a lot of money for one of their hits, and they don't get a lot of money, the sequel usually blows just because their budget has to be set lower, because they don't have as much money, and this can lead to a company filing for bankruptcy . In this case, Black Ops 1 and 2 are a prime example. The reason why they choose to limit playing offline is because to enhance the online capabilities. You see, with everyone playing online, Its easier to make games with intense online capabilities such as Forza 5. And plus cloud can add new content and achievements without downloading nothing. I didn't like how Microsoft did a complete 180 and change a lot. I preferred how it was, but there is only so much you can do. And as is I stated earlier, there is speculation they're gonna drop the price to 400 USD. And one more thing, don't use parenthesis so much, ironically, it makes your writing much less organized. And I do agree with you. I dont care about the multi-media functions that are on the Xbox One, but chances are, I will find myself using them once in a while, so I'm glad they come with the package. I apologize to NameEntry if I offended him, I did get carried away. |
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Im sorry but I stopped reading after the processor comparison.
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Well you do make some interesting points there. I can actually understand your reasoning on most of that, though I can't say whether I agree or not. Still, I can say that I disagree (respectfully) with the online only part. While it may offer better quality, what good does the quality do you, if many of the gamers can't afford the constant connection, or membership? It may be a good idea in theory, but in execution, it has too many flaws. Maybe in ten or fifteen more years, when internet prices have dropped enough for 95% of gamers to afford it, but as of now, I don't think it would be good.
Also, them dropping the price would be good, but it could never un-say what they already said. It was very much tasteless on their part. Still, they could come to their sense, and realize that they were treating the people poorly. Everyone makes mistakes, so I can't forever hold a statement they made against them. As for your original post, I have to add that after reading this thread, I started thinking about how I was seeing the PS4 as being the clearly dominant system in every way, and I realized that much like with any other situation, no one side (Sony fans and Microsoft fans) can be 100% correct, so I looked up some articles on it. What I found surprised me, and I think it will surprise you as well. For PlayStation 4: The hardware of the PS4 is a tad older, but due to the way the system is rigged up (simple language for a bunch of terms that I'll leave to the pros) it is actually faster than the XBox' hardware. The PS4 is more programmer friendly, and offers more useful resources and memory, despite the XBox One holding a bit more straight-out-of-the-box memory (something to do with more techy stuff) For The XBox One: It offers a free Dev-kit for Indie programmers (big deal for people like me, who are getting into this sort of stuff). It comes with the console's camera, unlike the PS4 (though it's still more expensive than the PS and camera combined, unless they drop the price). I also found that multiplay will also cost money on the PS4, though it won't require the "Gold Membership" (or something like that) that the XBox will. As for the comment about the quotations, I fail to see the problem there, they all served a purpose, and it wasn't difficult to read, but I can see that I used a lot of them. I was initially a bit offended, but you were in your right. I'll take that into consideration on my future posts. Thank you, sir, for the correction. In the end, as I said about the previous generation of consoles, it all comes down to your loyalties for most people. The consoles will be so evenly matched by way of capabilities, that the arguments for either side will be pointless, and it will simply be the XBox fanboys arguing that their console is better, and the PlayStation fanboys arguing that theirs is better. I mean last gen it was so pathetic that they were even pulling out thing like "My controller is more comfortable" (XBox) and "My console looks cooler" (PS3). It's all just a bunch of us fans just talking. lol I still think that E3 costed XBox a fair number of customers at launch, but it'll eventually even out. Also, them dropping the price would be good, but it could never un-say what they already said. It was very much tasteless on their part. Still, they could come to their sense, and realize that they were treating the people poorly. Everyone makes mistakes, so I can't forever hold a statement they made against them. As for your original post, I have to add that after reading this thread, I started thinking about how I was seeing the PS4 as being the clearly dominant system in every way, and I realized that much like with any other situation, no one side (Sony fans and Microsoft fans) can be 100% correct, so I looked up some articles on it. What I found surprised me, and I think it will surprise you as well. For PlayStation 4: The hardware of the PS4 is a tad older, but due to the way the system is rigged up (simple language for a bunch of terms that I'll leave to the pros) it is actually faster than the XBox' hardware. The PS4 is more programmer friendly, and offers more useful resources and memory, despite the XBox One holding a bit more straight-out-of-the-box memory (something to do with more techy stuff) For The XBox One: It offers a free Dev-kit for Indie programmers (big deal for people like me, who are getting into this sort of stuff). It comes with the console's camera, unlike the PS4 (though it's still more expensive than the PS and camera combined, unless they drop the price). I also found that multiplay will also cost money on the PS4, though it won't require the "Gold Membership" (or something like that) that the XBox will. As for the comment about the quotations, I fail to see the problem there, they all served a purpose, and it wasn't difficult to read, but I can see that I used a lot of them. I was initially a bit offended, but you were in your right. I'll take that into consideration on my future posts. Thank you, sir, for the correction. In the end, as I said about the previous generation of consoles, it all comes down to your loyalties for most people. The consoles will be so evenly matched by way of capabilities, that the arguments for either side will be pointless, and it will simply be the XBox fanboys arguing that their console is better, and the PlayStation fanboys arguing that theirs is better. I mean last gen it was so pathetic that they were even pulling out thing like "My controller is more comfortable" (XBox) and "My console looks cooler" (PS3). It's all just a bunch of us fans just talking. lol I still think that E3 costed XBox a fair number of customers at launch, but it'll eventually even out. |
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lozraper29 : Love that post there man. Did you realize you used a few techniques during it that they teach salesmen to use? I can see why there is such an argument here, we tend to develop a love for the consoles we use. Who knows how much time I spent debating SNES vs Genesis. I think they are both going to have the capabilities to be great systems and only time will tell which, if either, gets a major competitive edge. I don't believe that either the specs nor the opening line up of games is enough to sway gamers away from whichever preference they already have. Things like where the majority of the online community go and which games become big hits are going to determine which system I buy. I have no plans of upgrading right away so will sit back to watch it all unfold. I will tell you that price will become a major point for me when I do decide to get one, which will probably not be for quite awhile. I currently own a 360 so tend to sway towards Xbox however, lets say after out a couple of years they are running fairly even and the inevitable price drop hits. If I can get a PS4 for $100 bucks cheaper than an Xbox One then Sony just might persuade me. I can see why there is such an argument here, we tend to develop a love for the consoles we use. Who knows how much time I spent debating SNES vs Genesis. I think they are both going to have the capabilities to be great systems and only time will tell which, if either, gets a major competitive edge. I don't believe that either the specs nor the opening line up of games is enough to sway gamers away from whichever preference they already have. Things like where the majority of the online community go and which games become big hits are going to determine which system I buy. I have no plans of upgrading right away so will sit back to watch it all unfold. I will tell you that price will become a major point for me when I do decide to get one, which will probably not be for quite awhile. I currently own a 360 so tend to sway towards Xbox however, lets say after out a couple of years they are running fairly even and the inevitable price drop hits. If I can get a PS4 for $100 bucks cheaper than an Xbox One then Sony just might persuade me. |
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Eirinn : I have very much enjoyed this conversation and argument. I like your points and respect your opinion and I can obviously see that your an intelligent person. I do realize your online-only point there. I've come to realize that if the Xbox One was gonna go in that direction, it would of been a rich person console or something of that sort. And you're right about that new info you revealed. I was surprised to hear that the PS4 hardware was older than the Xbox One's. That may be the reason for the Xbox One's cost being higher. I still don't think that is a good excuse. And about the multiplayer fee, the PS4's membership name is called PS-Plus. You have to pay for multiplayer on the PS4, but every other feature is free, unlike Xbox Live Gold, were you have to pay for it to do anything except purchase things and other small things. To conclude, as I've stated before(I hope I don't sound like a broken record) The main reason why I'm getting an Xbox One is due to the exclusives. I have fond memory's of me assassinating then teabagging other enemy's in Halo: Reach. Humorous moments of funny comments from characters and epic moments in Fable 2. Then we have the future. Oh Titanfall, sweet, sweet Titanfall. I;m a huge HUGE Call of Duty fan. Now Titanfall is come around the corner and blow my mind with Call of Duty style gameplay but with parkour and mechs? Especially the mechs. Its like opening a box of fresh cookies and smelling it, anticipating it, until you take your first and the equation Mind = Blown has finally become true. In the end, I love these games, and when I heard Titanfall was coming out, I was sold. We all fight for these consoles. There both great. I just prefer one. I feel pity for the people who waste their lives away as seep hours into arguing which console is better. I have a friend that also enjoys Xbox. He had said once that a kid was talking crap about the Xbox One saying in a manner which I thought he was telling me that me and him should go beat him up. Then he noticed this kid was in our P.E. class. He was pointing at him saying " That was the kid talking s**t about the Xbox One!". So I replied with a "So?". Then he just shut up. I love my friend to death but it annoys me to death when not only him but others get too serious in these arguments. I just sit in the background, eat some popcorn, and watch as people get in to this fights. I made this thread to see others opinions and not to start flame wars, but possibly healthy arguments. So I hope people get over this foolish-mindedness and come too reality. These people need to stop volunteering as mascots for these company's and come to realize that were all the same. And you're right about that new info you revealed. I was surprised to hear that the PS4 hardware was older than the Xbox One's. That may be the reason for the Xbox One's cost being higher. I still don't think that is a good excuse. And about the multiplayer fee, the PS4's membership name is called PS-Plus. You have to pay for multiplayer on the PS4, but every other feature is free, unlike Xbox Live Gold, were you have to pay for it to do anything except purchase things and other small things. To conclude, as I've stated before(I hope I don't sound like a broken record) The main reason why I'm getting an Xbox One is due to the exclusives. I have fond memory's of me assassinating then teabagging other enemy's in Halo: Reach. Humorous moments of funny comments from characters and epic moments in Fable 2. Then we have the future. Oh Titanfall, sweet, sweet Titanfall. I;m a huge HUGE Call of Duty fan. Now Titanfall is come around the corner and blow my mind with Call of Duty style gameplay but with parkour and mechs? Especially the mechs. Its like opening a box of fresh cookies and smelling it, anticipating it, until you take your first and the equation Mind = Blown has finally become true. In the end, I love these games, and when I heard Titanfall was coming out, I was sold. We all fight for these consoles. There both great. I just prefer one. I feel pity for the people who waste their lives away as seep hours into arguing which console is better. I have a friend that also enjoys Xbox. He had said once that a kid was talking crap about the Xbox One saying in a manner which I thought he was telling me that me and him should go beat him up. Then he noticed this kid was in our P.E. class. He was pointing at him saying " That was the kid talking s**t about the Xbox One!". So I replied with a "So?". Then he just shut up. I love my friend to death but it annoys me to death when not only him but others get too serious in these arguments. 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Epic post, man. I couldn't help but laugh at the comments about people fighting over the consoles. I used to be a bit more die-hard, then I realized that there really was no clear cut victor between the two. My affection for the PlayStation stems from the fact that the PSX was my favorite console ever (though I haven't played anything newer than the PS2, and only a few games on it. I suspect that I would be equally attached to it, if I could get my hands on some of the more epic titles it offered), as well as the first console I ever purchased with my own money, and it gave us some of the greatest titles in the Game World of it's time, such as Dino Crises, Tomb Raider, Smackdown, Driver, and many great RPGs and the like. Pretty much every game that I loved in the mid 90's was on the PSX, with exception of a few N64 titles. That's why I cling to the opinion that PS consoles are better than XBox consoles. lol No real logical reason.
But after review, I can't say that the XBox One won't be worth having. In fact, I may buy one eventually, but it all depends on how my finances pan out. I'm definitely going to get a PS4 first, and a WiiU (even though I hate the WiiU console concept) simply because I'm a PS fan, and Nintendo has Mario and Harvest Moon. lol Still, XBox One does have some pretty sweet exclusives that I'm interested in, namely Titanfall, Ryse, and Plants VS. Zombies, though there were a couple of other games that I saw trailers for at E3, but the names elude me. The next gen game I am the most hyped about is Tom Clancy's The Division. Can't wait to get that one. If you haven't seen it, check out that link. It's the trailer they showed at E3. Also, thank you for the compliments. And if I may so say, I really enjoy your posts. They are lengthy, and explanatory, and so always convey your message clearly, rather than being short, rushed, and leaving me asking for clarification on your meaning. It's a shame that we won't be able to enjoy multiplayer over different consoles. lol You seem to be (sensibly) passionate about Video Games, and the industry, as well as being interested in some of the same titles as I. But after review, I can't say that the XBox One won't be worth having. In fact, I may buy one eventually, but it all depends on how my finances pan out. I'm definitely going to get a PS4 first, and a WiiU (even though I hate the WiiU console concept) simply because I'm a PS fan, and Nintendo has Mario and Harvest Moon. lol Still, XBox One does have some pretty sweet exclusives that I'm interested in, namely Titanfall, Ryse, and Plants VS. Zombies, though there were a couple of other games that I saw trailers for at E3, but the names elude me. The next gen game I am the most hyped about is Tom Clancy's The Division. Can't wait to get that one. If you haven't seen it, check out that link. It's the trailer they showed at E3. Also, thank you for the compliments. And if I may so say, I really enjoy your posts. They are lengthy, and explanatory, and so always convey your message clearly, rather than being short, rushed, and leaving me asking for clarification on your meaning. It's a shame that we won't be able to enjoy multiplayer over different consoles. lol You seem to be (sensibly) passionate about Video Games, and the industry, as well as being interested in some of the same titles as I. |
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Here some news about the Xbox One. The reason it cost 100 dollars more than the PS4 is because the kinect is 100 dollars itself. And unfortunately, Microsoft confirmed that no version of the Xbox One will not ship without the kinect. |
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I'm definitely going with the PS4. Hardware I couldn't care less for, but I just want to play a console I can play video games on. Not a console on which I can watch television, go on the internet, listen to radio, make coffee, fly to the moon or whatever fancy stuff it can do. And if it costs 100 euro's more, than it's easily decided which I'm going to get. |
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