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I've added some automated rules which automatically prevent back and forth posting (also known as "sandwich" posting).

Here's the max number of times you can post back and forth before having to wait for someone else to post:

2 = Vizzed Ville South forums
4 = Help Forums
3 = All other forums

If you're the one who made the thread, your limit is doubled. If you're a staff member, you have no limit.

Here's an example:

UserA posts
UserB posts
UserA posts
UserC posts
UserA posts
UserD posts

For most forums, UserA wouldn't be able to make another post until someone else posted.
I've added some automated rules which automatically prevent back and forth posting (also known as "sandwich" posting).

Here's the max number of times you can post back and forth before having to wait for someone else to post:

2 = Vizzed Ville South forums
4 = Help Forums
3 = All other forums

If you're the one who made the thread, your limit is doubled. If you're a staff member, you have no limit.

Here's an example:

UserA posts
UserB posts
UserA posts
UserC posts
UserA posts
UserD posts

For most forums, UserA wouldn't be able to make another post until someone else posted.
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   This is a great idea! This will really help when it comes to the lots of spammy posting. But the only problem I can see with is is bidding. If you are in a bidding war in the Vizzed Market, and two people are going back and forth, you would need some spammy post in the middle. 

   So is there any penalty for attempting to sandwich? Or will it just say that the post can't go through?
   This is a great idea! This will really help when it comes to the lots of spammy posting. But the only problem I can see with is is bidding. If you are in a bidding war in the Vizzed Market, and two people are going back and forth, you would need some spammy post in the middle. 

   So is there any penalty for attempting to sandwich? Or will it just say that the post can't go through?
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patar4097 : Yeah bid posts will be affected by this but this will force users to throw up higher bids at a time. I've always viewed bids as being a little spammy though and an easy way to earn posts.

There wont be any penalties, it'll simply just not let you post again until someone else has.
patar4097 : Yeah bid posts will be affected by this but this will force users to throw up higher bids at a time. I've always viewed bids as being a little spammy though and an easy way to earn posts.

There wont be any penalties, it'll simply just not let you post again until someone else has.
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Davideo7 :  
patar4097 : Or you could simply send a PM to the Thread creator telling them that you wish to bid... Of course you may be outbid most of the time before it actually gets seen, But like David said.. if you wanted something so badly you'd be wise to bid a higher amount than normal in the first place.
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patar4097 : Or you could simply send a PM to the Thread creator telling them that you wish to bid... Of course you may be outbid most of the time before it actually gets seen, But like David said.. if you wanted something so badly you'd be wise to bid a higher amount than normal in the first place.
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Awesome! I'm glad you did this.

Now we can stop having people talking about people who are sandwich post spamming. Instead we can refer to this thread so people understand the forum wide rules that are in place.


patar4097 : bid threads are pretty rare so I doubt we can make an exception for those. You might have to just edit the last post in the thread that you made if no one else comes along. It time stamps all edits so we would know what time the last edit was made. Just a thought
Awesome! I'm glad you did this.

Now we can stop having people talking about people who are sandwich post spamming. Instead we can refer to this thread so people understand the forum wide rules that are in place.


patar4097 : bid threads are pretty rare so I doubt we can make an exception for those. You might have to just edit the last post in the thread that you made if no one else comes along. It time stamps all edits so we would know what time the last edit was made. Just a thought
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point of curiosity, what would happen if you double posted? Say iv sandwhiched 2 times and i double post the 3rd time?
Would it still require another post to lock you out?
point of curiosity, what would happen if you double posted? Say iv sandwhiched 2 times and i double post the 3rd time?
Would it still require another post to lock you out?
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What about threads like quiz's where user A is required to sandwich post?
What about threads like quiz's where user A is required to sandwich post?
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kage27 : That wouldn't be to much of a problem, You could just wait for another person to answer, and who says the quiz maker had to confirm the answer to be correct?
kage27 : That wouldn't be to much of a problem, You could just wait for another person to answer, and who says the quiz maker had to confirm the answer to be correct?
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Davideo7 : that's great , know you could prevent people from sandwich posting a lot , i wish you could automatically prevent spams and flames .
Davideo7 : that's great , know you could prevent people from sandwich posting a lot , i wish you could automatically prevent spams and flames .
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supercool22 : if he could do that the staff would be out of a job

thenumberone : you are allowed to make 2 out of the last 3, 3 out of the last 5 or 4 out of the last 7 posts in a thread depending on the forum. I doubt it matters how many in a row you make. Likely if you double post it will require an extra person to post before you can.
supercool22 : if he could do that the staff would be out of a job

thenumberone : you are allowed to make 2 out of the last 3, 3 out of the last 5 or 4 out of the last 7 posts in a thread depending on the forum. I doubt it matters how many in a row you make. Likely if you double post it will require an extra person to post before you can.
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Davideo7 : I'm really glad that you did this. As we all know, this has been a growing problem lately. Something like this will really help keep that to a minimum.
Davideo7 : I'm really glad that you did this. As we all know, this has been a growing problem lately. Something like this will really help keep that to a minimum.
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geeogree : so what you mean is that the staff would be put of the job if he automatically prevented spams and flames . But if he didn't random people would be spamming and/or Flamming . Wow thats like being stuck between a rock and a hard place . Maybe its best he didn't prevent spams or flames .
geeogree : so what you mean is that the staff would be put of the job if he automatically prevented spams and flames . But if he didn't random people would be spamming and/or Flamming . Wow thats like being stuck between a rock and a hard place . Maybe its best he didn't prevent spams or flames .
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supercool22 : well, he can't prevent spamming or flaming. You couldn't write code good enough to do that. There are some things he could do but they wouldn't actually stop people if they were determined enough to get around the rules. More work than it's worth for him.

Little rules like this are easy ways to prevent spamming automatically and then the staff handles the rest.
supercool22 : well, he can't prevent spamming or flaming. You couldn't write code good enough to do that. There are some things he could do but they wouldn't actually stop people if they were determined enough to get around the rules. More work than it's worth for him.

Little rules like this are easy ways to prevent spamming automatically and then the staff handles the rest.
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I was wondering why I wasn't able to post a while back lol
Now I know,I think its a really good idea to.
This should greatly help reduce the amount of sandwich posting that can occur.
Should make things a little easier on staff to, which is always nice staff need game time to after all
I was wondering why I wasn't able to post a while back lol
Now I know,I think its a really good idea to.
This should greatly help reduce the amount of sandwich posting that can occur.
Should make things a little easier on staff to, which is always nice staff need game time to after all
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sonicmcmuffin : I do like auctions enough that I might one day make a feature for them so that users don't have to post every time they want to bid.

geeogree : Just in time for the Tour de Vizzed too because that's when it happens the most.

thenumberone : Here's an example

UserA posts
UserB posts
UserA posts
UserA posts

Now UserA has to wait for 2 more people to post before he can post again.

kage27 : You can still sandwich post but just not as much.

supercool22 : I can't automate everything, spamming and flaming are things that only staff can detect, not a script.
sonicmcmuffin : I do like auctions enough that I might one day make a feature for them so that users don't have to post every time they want to bid.

geeogree : Just in time for the Tour de Vizzed too because that's when it happens the most.

thenumberone : Here's an example

UserA posts
UserB posts
UserA posts
UserA posts

Now UserA has to wait for 2 more people to post before he can post again.

kage27 : You can still sandwich post but just not as much.

supercool22 : I can't automate everything, spamming and flaming are things that only staff can detect, not a script.
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In your first post, davideo7, you said "if you were the one who made the post, your limit is doubled". I assume you meant "thread"? That is a great idea, it will make it easier for someone who creates a blog thread.

Also what will be affected are threads like Singelli's (now passed to Eirinn) in the CC forum where usually they were able to post one post after an other, even double posting, because it was more a lesson or class than a regular conversation.

Regardless, any little bumps will just adapt to the new and improved sandwich posting rules.
In your first post, davideo7, you said "if you were the one who made the post, your limit is doubled". I assume you meant "thread"? That is a great idea, it will make it easier for someone who creates a blog thread.

Also what will be affected are threads like Singelli's (now passed to Eirinn) in the CC forum where usually they were able to post one post after an other, even double posting, because it was more a lesson or class than a regular conversation.

Regardless, any little bumps will just adapt to the new and improved sandwich posting rules.
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Light Knight : lol yeah I meant thread, I'll go edit that.

Yeah usually someone who makes a thread is going to have more back and forth posting and they deserve it. Blogs, stories, walkthroughs, reviews and help threads are all types of threads that come to mind.
Light Knight : lol yeah I meant thread, I'll go edit that.

Yeah usually someone who makes a thread is going to have more back and forth posting and they deserve it. Blogs, stories, walkthroughs, reviews and help threads are all types of threads that come to mind.
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