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03-14-13 05:51 PM
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Many people say that most video games, movies, etc. are getting worse, and I agree. Even beloved classics like Mario are plummeting and even modern series like The Sims seems to be losing its "shine". Well known phrases/lines seem to all come from older movies/games. I want to see whether you guys agree with me and why it's happening. I have three theories:

1. We are running out of ideas
2. We are becoming more accustomed to rated-R content (less bleeps, sexual references, etc.) making games less appealing to those used         to restrictions
3. We are desperate for money and are weeding out quick titles for a quick buck.







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Many people say that most video games, movies, etc. are getting worse, and I agree. Even beloved classics like Mario are plummeting and even modern series like The Sims seems to be losing its "shine". Well known phrases/lines seem to all come from older movies/games. I want to see whether you guys agree with me and why it's happening. I have three theories:

1. We are running out of ideas
2. We are becoming more accustomed to rated-R content (less bleeps, sexual references, etc.) making games less appealing to those used         to restrictions
3. We are desperate for money and are weeding out quick titles for a quick buck.







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From certain people's point of view games and movies are worse.  Others think they're better.

I'm an old man (31 y/0) and I grew up with movies that were more about the story and the adventure than the flashy, dashy movement and lights and explosions.  I grew up in a time before Michael Bay.  I saw the last Transformers movie and it was no story, just effects.  I grew up with the original Star Wars, Jaws, Indiana Jones, and other movies that relied on action but were plot-driven and not effects-driven.

I don't care for effects.

My buddy is 19 and he loves effects-driven movies.  He was the explosions and movement and the noise and he doesn't care and doesn't require a plot other than something a 9 year old can dream up as long as helicopters explode.

So, I think they're worse off.  

Video games are all sports, Medal of Honor, or button-mashers, or Pokemon.  They follow formulas that are successful and people buy them.  Nothing creative is required because people plug money into the same stuff.  I can't fault companies for that.  But it's what we have.

I haven't purchased a new video game in five years.  I like the ones I have.
From certain people's point of view games and movies are worse.  Others think they're better.

I'm an old man (31 y/0) and I grew up with movies that were more about the story and the adventure than the flashy, dashy movement and lights and explosions.  I grew up in a time before Michael Bay.  I saw the last Transformers movie and it was no story, just effects.  I grew up with the original Star Wars, Jaws, Indiana Jones, and other movies that relied on action but were plot-driven and not effects-driven.

I don't care for effects.

My buddy is 19 and he loves effects-driven movies.  He was the explosions and movement and the noise and he doesn't care and doesn't require a plot other than something a 9 year old can dream up as long as helicopters explode.

So, I think they're worse off.  

Video games are all sports, Medal of Honor, or button-mashers, or Pokemon.  They follow formulas that are successful and people buy them.  Nothing creative is required because people plug money into the same stuff.  I can't fault companies for that.  But it's what we have.

I haven't purchased a new video game in five years.  I like the ones I have.
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I think they are better and worse.

I think that originality is gone from most games and movies. Especially when you see #3 or 4 of some series.

However, I will counter that with the fact that I really enjoy more from the same series a lot of the time. I want 10 movies about the Terminator or about X-men or something like that. I really enjoy more and more about certain groups of people etc. I find that interesting a lot of the time. However there have been series that have been done that were good and didn't feel overdone just to make extra money.

warmaker : I agree with you on what you said about movies being effects-driven. I watched a bunch of the same movies growing up and the effects were done because they were necessary for the plot not the plot done for the effects.
I think they are better and worse.

I think that originality is gone from most games and movies. Especially when you see #3 or 4 of some series.

However, I will counter that with the fact that I really enjoy more from the same series a lot of the time. I want 10 movies about the Terminator or about X-men or something like that. I really enjoy more and more about certain groups of people etc. I find that interesting a lot of the time. However there have been series that have been done that were good and didn't feel overdone just to make extra money.

warmaker : I agree with you on what you said about movies being effects-driven. I watched a bunch of the same movies growing up and the effects were done because they were necessary for the plot not the plot done for the effects.
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Did you see the string of awesome movies that came out in 2012? That proves that there's still originality in movie making. Video Games, not so much. I always love more of the same series, though! They usually add a bunch of new concepts, improvements, and levels which keep me coming back for more.
Did you see the string of awesome movies that came out in 2012? That proves that there's still originality in movie making. Video Games, not so much. I always love more of the same series, though! They usually add a bunch of new concepts, improvements, and levels which keep me coming back for more.
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epic-san : What string of original awesome movies?

I didn't catch any of those.
epic-san : What string of original awesome movies?

I didn't catch any of those.
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i dont think they are geting worse. There have always been terrible movies and games, and iv still seen good one recently. Its annoying how holywood make historical movies though. Lincoln, absolute tripe.
i dont think they are geting worse. There have always been terrible movies and games, and iv still seen good one recently. Its annoying how holywood make historical movies though. Lincoln, absolute tripe.
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As far as Hollywood goes, there hasn't been any original thought coming out of there for years.

Modern video games all seem to be falling into the same trap: the designers think that improving the graphics, adding more special effects, more explosions, more intensive "save the day from generic (super)villain #6324" missions, people will love their games. Or at least continue buying them. And, sadly, they are correct.
As far as Hollywood goes, there hasn't been any original thought coming out of there for years.

Modern video games all seem to be falling into the same trap: the designers think that improving the graphics, adding more special effects, more explosions, more intensive "save the day from generic (super)villain #6324" missions, people will love their games. Or at least continue buying them. And, sadly, they are correct.
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warmaker : I must disagree to an extent with you.

I think Gee understands what is really happening here.

It's so easy for "old timers" (or even young ones) to look back and say how everything was so much better, there was more depth, there was less bling.

There is some truth to that, but it's not that the MOVIES or GAMES have gotten so much less original, it's that WE are less easily suprized and impressed as we get older. Take a movie like Inception, or The Matrix, you can't say those plots are not original and genius. Take the Dark Knight trilogy, it's not ABOUT the effects, it's certainly not why I go see it. It's for the Epicness, the story, the awesome stuff that one man can do. Take the movie Lord of the Rings, again, a great movie about adventure. Don't be foolish and think ALL modern movies are directed by Michael Bay, the bad ones are, and there were bad ones back in the day too. Also don't think that all movies that have action and great special effects are ALL ABOUT those things; they can still have great plots and characters. When Star Wars came out, wasn't it a milestone in special effects?

Movies have gotten better and worst. But the selection is still there, just like 30 years ago.

The same is true for games, games have gotten worst due to the cheap $2 games on tablets, and due to the decline in the home console. But still we come out with great games that push the art form further. Skyrim has brought open world concepts to new heights. The new Sim City has re-invented simulation engines. Mario Galaxy introduced a very intuitive and divers world of little planets and gravity.

As we get older and see more and more movies, and play more and more games, the first ones we played obviously mean a lot more to us, as that was how we discovered art and movies and games. It's always been the case, and always will be. I you born 20 years later, in 2040, you'd be looking back at how great the 2000 and 2010 years were, the great movies that were made. It happens every generation.

warmaker : I must disagree to an extent with you.

I think Gee understands what is really happening here.

It's so easy for "old timers" (or even young ones) to look back and say how everything was so much better, there was more depth, there was less bling.

There is some truth to that, but it's not that the MOVIES or GAMES have gotten so much less original, it's that WE are less easily suprized and impressed as we get older. Take a movie like Inception, or The Matrix, you can't say those plots are not original and genius. Take the Dark Knight trilogy, it's not ABOUT the effects, it's certainly not why I go see it. It's for the Epicness, the story, the awesome stuff that one man can do. Take the movie Lord of the Rings, again, a great movie about adventure. Don't be foolish and think ALL modern movies are directed by Michael Bay, the bad ones are, and there were bad ones back in the day too. Also don't think that all movies that have action and great special effects are ALL ABOUT those things; they can still have great plots and characters. When Star Wars came out, wasn't it a milestone in special effects?

Movies have gotten better and worst. But the selection is still there, just like 30 years ago.

The same is true for games, games have gotten worst due to the cheap $2 games on tablets, and due to the decline in the home console. But still we come out with great games that push the art form further. Skyrim has brought open world concepts to new heights. The new Sim City has re-invented simulation engines. Mario Galaxy introduced a very intuitive and divers world of little planets and gravity.

As we get older and see more and more movies, and play more and more games, the first ones we played obviously mean a lot more to us, as that was how we discovered art and movies and games. It's always been the case, and always will be. I you born 20 years later, in 2040, you'd be looking back at how great the 2000 and 2010 years were, the great movies that were made. It happens every generation.

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I guess this is down to personal preference but I think they are fairly good but that is because the graphics can be breath taking on some modern games but they seem to lack story lines just like some modern movies but there are a few that continue to break the mold
I guess this is down to personal preference but I think they are fairly good but that is because the graphics can be breath taking on some modern games but they seem to lack story lines just like some modern movies but there are a few that continue to break the mold
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i think they are going up and down since they come out with very good movies or games then they send out thrash but all in all it still pretty good
i think they are going up and down since they come out with very good movies or games then they send out thrash but all in all it still pretty good
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I get the impression that over the years people are having a hard time coming up with 100% unique ideas so studios/developers are trying to go back and use ideas that they KNOW have been popular in the past.

This is a slippery slope though because a lot of fans of the original game/movie/idea get mad because they feel like they "ruined" favorites from their past.

Also a lot of times these days people act like Graphics and special effects are the only thing that makes a good movie/game. This is not the case at all...

That's why it was so fun growing up in the 80's and 90's as a game because every time you turned around there was a new idea incorporated into a game or console.
I get the impression that over the years people are having a hard time coming up with 100% unique ideas so studios/developers are trying to go back and use ideas that they KNOW have been popular in the past.

This is a slippery slope though because a lot of fans of the original game/movie/idea get mad because they feel like they "ruined" favorites from their past.

Also a lot of times these days people act like Graphics and special effects are the only thing that makes a good movie/game. This is not the case at all...

That's why it was so fun growing up in the 80's and 90's as a game because every time you turned around there was a new idea incorporated into a game or console.
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I think they are getting worse, because to me TV executes and producers are running out of ideas.
I think they are getting worse, because to me TV executes and producers are running out of ideas.
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It really is getting worse... the more copies that appear just for corporate benefit just disgusts me...
It really is getting worse... the more copies that appear just for corporate benefit just disgusts me...
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In my opinion, some are. A few are getting better though. 
In my opinion, some are. A few are getting better though. 
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Well mostly sequels because people are starting to run out of ideas for movies and games but knowledge will sink in as we continue our everyday lives who knows maybe you will create a new idea for a video game or movie.
Well mostly sequels because people are starting to run out of ideas for movies and games but knowledge will sink in as we continue our everyday lives who knows maybe you will create a new idea for a video game or movie.
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I kinda feel that we're just in a period of time where originality is lacking, especially in the movie department. I haven't seen a lot of good movies come out this year yet, and while last year had quite a few good ones, the absolutely excellent movies haven't been prevalent like in the past. That being said, there are some very good movies that still come out, but they are far and few between... Come to think of it, it's not really that different. Throughout the course of any given year, some awesome movies come out along with some busts. It's just that this year, I don't really see that many good ones... yet.

Moving on to video games, I think these are getting better and better in terms of quality. Look at some of the new games that have come out: Assassin's Creed 3 and Bioshock Infinite are just two of the major ones that I have seen that look amazing. Now take a look at the future games that will be coming out. Battlefield 4, the next Infamous, Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag, Destiny, Watch Dogs... These are just a few that are coming out that look excellent. I'm particularly excited about Battlefield 4 (I love the Battlefield games) and Watch Dogs. Just from watching a few clips of Watch Dogs, where your main character is a hacker that walks about the city of Chicago (thank goodness it isn't freakin' New York City. Totally overused and overrated, in my opinion). You can gather the data of any character in the game, and it even tells you how likely someone is to get mugged. Seriously, go watch the clip. It's absolutely excellent!

That being said, there are a lot of users who are right when they say there are games that are getting worse, too. I think sometimes it's all about pumping the games out without making the best product, and that's because people are too worried about money. Now I'm not against making money by any means, but I think I'd rather have a quality product as opposed to some money-making piece of trash (I'm looking at you, Activision). I don't see why anyone would risk their reputations on that.
I kinda feel that we're just in a period of time where originality is lacking, especially in the movie department. I haven't seen a lot of good movies come out this year yet, and while last year had quite a few good ones, the absolutely excellent movies haven't been prevalent like in the past. That being said, there are some very good movies that still come out, but they are far and few between... Come to think of it, it's not really that different. Throughout the course of any given year, some awesome movies come out along with some busts. It's just that this year, I don't really see that many good ones... yet.

Moving on to video games, I think these are getting better and better in terms of quality. Look at some of the new games that have come out: Assassin's Creed 3 and Bioshock Infinite are just two of the major ones that I have seen that look amazing. Now take a look at the future games that will be coming out. Battlefield 4, the next Infamous, Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag, Destiny, Watch Dogs... These are just a few that are coming out that look excellent. I'm particularly excited about Battlefield 4 (I love the Battlefield games) and Watch Dogs. Just from watching a few clips of Watch Dogs, where your main character is a hacker that walks about the city of Chicago (thank goodness it isn't freakin' New York City. Totally overused and overrated, in my opinion). You can gather the data of any character in the game, and it even tells you how likely someone is to get mugged. Seriously, go watch the clip. It's absolutely excellent!

That being said, there are a lot of users who are right when they say there are games that are getting worse, too. I think sometimes it's all about pumping the games out without making the best product, and that's because people are too worried about money. Now I'm not against making money by any means, but I think I'd rather have a quality product as opposed to some money-making piece of trash (I'm looking at you, Activision). I don't see why anyone would risk their reputations on that.
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I honestly do not think they are worse.
I think they are easier and shorter.
The quality and talent is grand.
But.
Challenge is something that is almost gone.
Lore is no longer an issue either.
Nothing is legendary.

Of course I am from the old days of gaming.

Nothing much can knock my socks off.

About the movies???
Absolutely.
They are too bad for words to match.
The only ones I dig are historical or a part of some class in some school. Even if they are inaccurate as the "national inquirer".

Good Luck To All.
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I honestly do not think they are worse.
I think they are easier and shorter.
The quality and talent is grand.
But.
Challenge is something that is almost gone.
Lore is no longer an issue either.
Nothing is legendary.

Of course I am from the old days of gaming.

Nothing much can knock my socks off.

About the movies???
Absolutely.
They are too bad for words to match.
The only ones I dig are historical or a part of some class in some school. Even if they are inaccurate as the "national inquirer".

Good Luck To All.
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Well, in my opinion some are, and some aren't. It's easy to say a new game ruined a series when you grew up playing some games like the original Mario. Very easy. Ok, so how some of you are saying that some new video games are bad. Someone who grew up playing the video games we have out today will say that the next generation of games are bad etc etc. I personally think it's a matter of opinion. I actually like Pokemon Black and White 2. But, how some of you were saying that games have become shorter and easier, the only reason older games were long was because they were incredibly hard. I haven't played many of the new games out (look at my age, I'm 13) but from what I hear, and see (I'm at a boarding school, you see these games everywhere), they are pretty good and usually have good gameplay. That, in my opinion, is what makes a good game. If the gameplay if good and makes you want to play it again and again, then it is a very good game.

Onto movies. Some are, and some aren't. My favorite movie is V for Vendetta, and it, in my opinion, has very good special effects, a good plot and some wonderful acting. I honestly don't like movies made to show huge explosions. I honestly prefer books made into movies, unless I've already read the book (I really don't like the Hunger Games and Series of unfortunate events movies, they completely killed it to me). And if movies really annoy you, try reading a book. That's usually what I do.

Rant for the day over. I apologize if this seemed rude or offence you in any way..
Well, in my opinion some are, and some aren't. It's easy to say a new game ruined a series when you grew up playing some games like the original Mario. Very easy. Ok, so how some of you are saying that some new video games are bad. Someone who grew up playing the video games we have out today will say that the next generation of games are bad etc etc. I personally think it's a matter of opinion. I actually like Pokemon Black and White 2. But, how some of you were saying that games have become shorter and easier, the only reason older games were long was because they were incredibly hard. I haven't played many of the new games out (look at my age, I'm 13) but from what I hear, and see (I'm at a boarding school, you see these games everywhere), they are pretty good and usually have good gameplay. That, in my opinion, is what makes a good game. If the gameplay if good and makes you want to play it again and again, then it is a very good game.

Onto movies. Some are, and some aren't. My favorite movie is V for Vendetta, and it, in my opinion, has very good special effects, a good plot and some wonderful acting. I honestly don't like movies made to show huge explosions. I honestly prefer books made into movies, unless I've already read the book (I really don't like the Hunger Games and Series of unfortunate events movies, they completely killed it to me). And if movies really annoy you, try reading a book. That's usually what I do.

Rant for the day over. I apologize if this seemed rude or offence you in any way..
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i dont think the movies are getting worse. well they are but i think its only the sequals. madagascar 1 and 2 were good but 3 was... well... not so bad. mario games are getting better but shorter. some are a bit worse but they are all good
i dont think the movies are getting worse. well they are but i think its only the sequals. madagascar 1 and 2 were good but 3 was... well... not so bad. mario games are getting better but shorter. some are a bit worse but they are all good
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the answer to that question is no , video games and movies will never get worse , you here me NEVER ! 
the answer to that question is no , video games and movies will never get worse , you here me NEVER ! 
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