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I think it's time for the Pokemon franchise to evolve.
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Alright, alright. I will admit that with BW, they made a lot of changed. BW is a tougher game, with better fighting, better graphics, and (IMO) better Pokemon. But when you get right down it's core, it's still the same game. We've been playing for 15+ years and they still haven't figured out how to move diagonally.
I think that after BW2, Grey, RSE remakes, and whatever else they decide to squeeze out of the 5th generation before addressing the elephant-in-the-room and FINALLY making a 3DS game.... it's time for an evolution. Here are things I think need to be changed about Pokemon. Let's have some graphics that don't look like they're from the 90's. BW, while it did have some wonderful camera angles and shifting viewpoints to allow a level of realism to the game, it still isn't nearly up to par with the current generation of games- and partly because it was released on a dying console. The DS has been around for 7 years, and the 3DS is MUCH more capable. It has better graphics than the Wii. Let's take Pokemon into the new generation and give it some graphics that are fun to look at. I'd like for the game to shift entirely out of the isometric birds-eye view. How about a little bit of character customization? I remember when D/P/Pt came out, and lots of people complained that because of the boy's stupid-looking hat, they were gonna play as the girl. In fact, have any of you seen the teaser trailer for BW2? I don't want to play as that guy, either. When the next generation comes along, I want Pokemon to catch up with the other major RPG franchises, and allow some character customization. It'd be great for this to introduce a gameplay dynamic where certain items can boost certain attributes, like a hat that strengthens fire-related attacks. Why can't battles be a little bit more... animated? Come on. These battles should be a bit more exciting, no? Rather than two static pixelated characters standing completely still and switching moves back and forth, we should have a bit more animation in this. Have the Pokemon characters be rendered in 3D, a la the 3DS Pokedex. Give them animations. Have them square off with each other before attacking, etc. etc. Another thing that would be great fun would be RTS-style combat, in the style of Advance Wars or Fire Emblem. Maybe not for the main series, but as a spin-off, you have to admit that would be pretty cool. Let's be honest... what would you rather make an army out of? Cute little baby-themed Pokemon, or huge, kick-butt monsters. It is Pocket Monsters, after all. I'm tired of seeing cutesy little baby Pokemon. If you consider that the average Pokemon player is a 13-14 year old male, not a 7-8 year old female, it simply doesn't make sense that the majority of Pokemon are meant to look cute. What if you took an awesome, butt kicking Pokemon like Zekrom or Kyurem- THOSE aren't cute. THOSE look like they could tear your face off. Now imagine that ALL OF THA POKEYMANS are like that, and the legendaries and evolved Pokemon are EVEN. MORE. AWESOME. It's the same story. Boy meats evil team, boy fights evil team, boy saves the day and defeats evil team. (Insert cool sounding name here, like Rocket or Plasma) Pokemon games have the potential to create enthralling stories but every single generation, it's the same old song. Your mom kicks you out of the house and says, "Okay honey, go take a journey and learn how to be an adult! I have absolutely no problem with this whatsoever!" and then you travel from city to city, collecting Gym Badges, filling your Pokedex, and trying to take down whatever "Team Blank" you're fighting in this installment. Why can't we have a rich, deep story with INTERESTING characters and dialog that doesn't make me want to throw my DS against a wall? Black had some interesting ideas, like how Team Plasma was kind of a PETA-esqe Pokemon's Rights group. And that's a fresh, new take on the idea. But it's still the same thing. You still collect your gym badges, fill your pokedex, and occasionally fight the Plasma grunts. That's all there is to it. I'm not asking for a full on Mass Effect-style morality system, but give us some choices and branching paths. Pokemon is already very open-world, so the ability to make some decisions and change the outcome of the game would be really fun to play with. I'd even consider the idea that you're a bad guy, and you're working for the villainous "Team Something". That would be really cool. Pokemon has been absolutely BEGGING for a great multiplayer component since it's very inception. Can we make this a reality? I'm not just talking about battling and trading with your friends- great features that are very useful and fun- I'm talking about being able to connect your devices and live and play in the same world. Battle together, in the double battle style (or rotation battle style) and do all sorts of those fun multiplayer things. THAT would be great. In fact, a computer based Pokemon MMO with ALL of these features, would be the best game ever made and would definitely make ALL OF THE MONEY. So consider what I'm saying. What do you want changed, and why? Also, a little diagonal movement would be very, very nice I think that after BW2, Grey, RSE remakes, and whatever else they decide to squeeze out of the 5th generation before addressing the elephant-in-the-room and FINALLY making a 3DS game.... it's time for an evolution. Here are things I think need to be changed about Pokemon. Let's have some graphics that don't look like they're from the 90's. BW, while it did have some wonderful camera angles and shifting viewpoints to allow a level of realism to the game, it still isn't nearly up to par with the current generation of games- and partly because it was released on a dying console. The DS has been around for 7 years, and the 3DS is MUCH more capable. It has better graphics than the Wii. Let's take Pokemon into the new generation and give it some graphics that are fun to look at. I'd like for the game to shift entirely out of the isometric birds-eye view. How about a little bit of character customization? I remember when D/P/Pt came out, and lots of people complained that because of the boy's stupid-looking hat, they were gonna play as the girl. In fact, have any of you seen the teaser trailer for BW2? I don't want to play as that guy, either. When the next generation comes along, I want Pokemon to catch up with the other major RPG franchises, and allow some character customization. It'd be great for this to introduce a gameplay dynamic where certain items can boost certain attributes, like a hat that strengthens fire-related attacks. Why can't battles be a little bit more... animated? Come on. These battles should be a bit more exciting, no? Rather than two static pixelated characters standing completely still and switching moves back and forth, we should have a bit more animation in this. Have the Pokemon characters be rendered in 3D, a la the 3DS Pokedex. Give them animations. Have them square off with each other before attacking, etc. etc. Another thing that would be great fun would be RTS-style combat, in the style of Advance Wars or Fire Emblem. Maybe not for the main series, but as a spin-off, you have to admit that would be pretty cool. Let's be honest... what would you rather make an army out of? Cute little baby-themed Pokemon, or huge, kick-butt monsters. It is Pocket Monsters, after all. I'm tired of seeing cutesy little baby Pokemon. If you consider that the average Pokemon player is a 13-14 year old male, not a 7-8 year old female, it simply doesn't make sense that the majority of Pokemon are meant to look cute. What if you took an awesome, butt kicking Pokemon like Zekrom or Kyurem- THOSE aren't cute. THOSE look like they could tear your face off. Now imagine that ALL OF THA POKEYMANS are like that, and the legendaries and evolved Pokemon are EVEN. MORE. AWESOME. It's the same story. Boy meats evil team, boy fights evil team, boy saves the day and defeats evil team. (Insert cool sounding name here, like Rocket or Plasma) Pokemon games have the potential to create enthralling stories but every single generation, it's the same old song. Your mom kicks you out of the house and says, "Okay honey, go take a journey and learn how to be an adult! I have absolutely no problem with this whatsoever!" and then you travel from city to city, collecting Gym Badges, filling your Pokedex, and trying to take down whatever "Team Blank" you're fighting in this installment. Why can't we have a rich, deep story with INTERESTING characters and dialog that doesn't make me want to throw my DS against a wall? Black had some interesting ideas, like how Team Plasma was kind of a PETA-esqe Pokemon's Rights group. And that's a fresh, new take on the idea. But it's still the same thing. You still collect your gym badges, fill your pokedex, and occasionally fight the Plasma grunts. That's all there is to it. I'm not asking for a full on Mass Effect-style morality system, but give us some choices and branching paths. Pokemon is already very open-world, so the ability to make some decisions and change the outcome of the game would be really fun to play with. I'd even consider the idea that you're a bad guy, and you're working for the villainous "Team Something". That would be really cool. Pokemon has been absolutely BEGGING for a great multiplayer component since it's very inception. Can we make this a reality? I'm not just talking about battling and trading with your friends- great features that are very useful and fun- I'm talking about being able to connect your devices and live and play in the same world. Battle together, in the double battle style (or rotation battle style) and do all sorts of those fun multiplayer things. THAT would be great. In fact, a computer based Pokemon MMO with ALL of these features, would be the best game ever made and would definitely make ALL OF THE MONEY. So consider what I'm saying. What do you want changed, and why? Also, a little diagonal movement would be very, very nice |
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I've always wondered why you can not move diagonally in Pokémon. |
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And I present to you Pokemon X and Y. Your wishes have been at least partly granted. |
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Hahahah yea a good amount of those problems were answered |
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ya i wonder what dunsparce and pinsir would look like.....maybe... ya i wonder what dunsparce and pinsir would look like.....maybe... |
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Most of what is being added in X and Y (graphics ,animation, possibly diagonal movement) was already in Colosseum and XD. What seems to have happened is that handheld technology has caught up with what the Gamecube was able to do.
Some of the other things mentioned (different story, branching storyline) might change the series a little too much. I'd like to see that in some side series games, but not as a replacement for the main series games. Some of the other things mentioned (different story, branching storyline) might change the series a little too much. I'd like to see that in some side series games, but not as a replacement for the main series games. |
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If Pokemon was to get changed too much, it would stop being Pokemon.
We would all be complaining if things, such as the Gym Badges etc got changed/removed. Nintendo cannot afford such risks with their series. Though why they removed everything that made R/S/E awesome in D/P/Pl escapes me. We would all be complaining if things, such as the Gym Badges etc got changed/removed. Nintendo cannot afford such risks with their series. Though why they removed everything that made R/S/E awesome in D/P/Pl escapes me. |
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I agree. I'm not that big a fan of black, white, black2, and white2. I do hope that X and Y are above standards, but honestly Nintendo needs to make something original with pokemon. Something good and new like snap or mystery dungeon.... The original story of pokemon is good, but gets old after a while. Even something like a more modern XD gale of Darkness or Colosseum, without the shadow pokemon, would be something to satisfy me I agree. I'm not that big a fan of black, white, black2, and white2. I do hope that X and Y are above standards, but honestly Nintendo needs to make something original with pokemon. Something good and new like snap or mystery dungeon.... The original story of pokemon is good, but gets old after a while. Even something like a more modern XD gale of Darkness or Colosseum, without the shadow pokemon, would be something to satisfy me |
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I agree that this should happen. I don't think that x and y will meet the standers. |
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I don't know if they messed with the formula it just wouldn't be the same, in other words don't fix whats not broken. I don't know if they messed with the formula it just wouldn't be the same, in other words don't fix whats not broken. |
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I completely agree that they should change the storyline and add mysterious characters and make the story... mysterious. And definitely make the pokemon less cute, because badass pokemon are way cooler and you're right, the average players are about 13-14 male and we don't want cute pokemon. At least I don't. I completely agree that they should change the storyline and add mysterious characters and make the story... mysterious. And definitely make the pokemon less cute, because badass pokemon are way cooler and you're right, the average players are about 13-14 male and we don't want cute pokemon. At least I don't. |
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I think they do the graphic like that on purpose so it looks like 'Pokemon'. Besides Pokemon X and Y are changing the style a bit when the 3D I guess character customisation should be possible by now. Pokemon should be more animated in X and Y. Other than that this is a strategy game, not live action. I like how not all Pokemon aren't badbutt. The story does need some new things and twists but keep it somewhat the same, especially the Gym leader part of the story. Most games twist a core plot that the series establishes. The branch story is an good answer to the storyline problem. It sounds cool though I don't see how it would work since Pokemon doesn't really have an ending because of the style of Pokemon. Most branch stories alter the ending. In generation 5 I'm sure you can do that entralink thing. They just need to expand on that. I wouldn't want it to be a MMO because it would get over crowded and lots of people will be a bit... you know. So some of these suggestions are good but others aren't so good I guess character customisation should be possible by now. Pokemon should be more animated in X and Y. Other than that this is a strategy game, not live action. I like how not all Pokemon aren't badbutt. The story does need some new things and twists but keep it somewhat the same, especially the Gym leader part of the story. Most games twist a core plot that the series establishes. The branch story is an good answer to the storyline problem. It sounds cool though I don't see how it would work since Pokemon doesn't really have an ending because of the style of Pokemon. Most branch stories alter the ending. In generation 5 I'm sure you can do that entralink thing. They just need to expand on that. I wouldn't want it to be a MMO because it would get over crowded and lots of people will be a bit... you know. So some of these suggestions are good but others aren't so good |
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You know, this thread makes some good points. I'm always for video game companies going in a new direction |
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I guess you already answered all of my complaints.. Nice and detailed thread. |
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Honestly I do think they will do character customization, since in the X and Y trailer it showed the character looking into a mirror and latter in the trailer he looked differently than before. I definitely don't want to look like he looked like in the trailer though, he looked too mii'ish and I don't want that for pokemon. I definitely don't want to look like he looked like in the trailer though, he looked too mii'ish and I don't want that for pokemon. |
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It does look like its time for it to evolve, I mean the Pokemon from unova all have some type similarity . |
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Now that I think about it after generation 6 (X and Y) Pokemon comes out I feel the Pokemon franchise needs to evolve by calling it quite's and shut down because Pokemon is getting repetitive, predictable and the creativity in the anime series and games are getting lower and lower as the series is forcibly being dragged out. |
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From the Pokemon X and Y trailers I had seen recently it seems the series is trying to do their best to get things back in order again. Stopping the development of Pokemon would mean no profit or cash on the series. Why would they do that when the series has made a big profit already. I know a couple of people that say that they actually liked the newer games. Stopping the development of Pokemon would mean no profit or cash on the series. Why would they do that when the series has made a big profit already. I know a couple of people that say that they actually liked the newer games. |
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EmosewaRepus : I do understand what you are saying in this thread.They need to come out with something that is more in-depth action.Thank you for posting this thread, and have a great day!! |
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Wow, that was kind of harsh, But with everything you said, I had to say I agree with you. The Pokémon sprites look bad, they look like trash. Look at some videos that have peoples ideas! You Pokémon people. Wow, that was kind of harsh, But with everything you said, I had to say I agree with you. The Pokémon sprites look bad, they look like trash. Look at some videos that have peoples ideas! You Pokémon people. |
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