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How is it handled in your country or place of living? Do you support it getting legalized where you live or eventual globalization? Did you know someone, currently know someone, or for yourself, that could/can benefit from such procedures. Do you only support it for terminally ill patients? Or do you support it for those with long term ailments or those who of sound mind have made the decision to do it? I have done some research and have found that here in Hawaii it is now legal for those who are terminally ill with around 6 months to live. This news brought me only partial relief for I am only depressed with other problems. I can not be approved for this because my condition will not bring me certain death within 6 months. I have a condition not dissimilar to Karen Carpenter. Her disease killed her slowly over time. And so does mine. I found out with great relief and partial happiness that Switzerland offers assisted suicide to those of sound mind who want to die. They have deemed it a legal right to all (even those just visiting their country) to be able to end their lives peacefully. Upon reading about this it brought me to a saddening realization that this is what I have been looking for for a long time. A place that would let me do this legally without me having to research (I have many times done research) the least painful way to die, what supplies would I need, the cleanest way possible, and without burden to those left behind. Though to be honest thats one of the few threads left holding me to this life. What a burden my death will bring upon those I leave behind. The cost of the procedure, the travel, the food and drink, the consequences of my actions…. It was a flood of relief though. So much so I cried so hard. I still cry knowing that my way out is within reach. I cry harder though for the ones I will leave behind. I know and have thought of all the consequences of my actions, every possibility of how this will change everyone’s lives around me, even the possibility that some may try and commit suicide in the wake of my death. I don’t know a way around that and that sounds extremely selfish of me to say…. But i am of sound mind to know that this is what I want. Just having knowledge of this place in Switzerland brings me some peace. Tell me about other places that may also have legalized it for those not terminally ill and not residents of their law. This will bring me more peace. More comfort. More hope. i hope i can save enough money for this journey I want to take. I hope it doesn’t take to long. Nitrogen or potassium cyanide seem so easy to purchase. But the cleanup… I worry about the cleanup. Do you support it getting legalized where you live or eventual globalization? Did you know someone, currently know someone, or for yourself, that could/can benefit from such procedures. Do you only support it for terminally ill patients? Or do you support it for those with long term ailments or those who of sound mind have made the decision to do it? I have done some research and have found that here in Hawaii it is now legal for those who are terminally ill with around 6 months to live. This news brought me only partial relief for I am only depressed with other problems. I can not be approved for this because my condition will not bring me certain death within 6 months. I have a condition not dissimilar to Karen Carpenter. Her disease killed her slowly over time. And so does mine. I found out with great relief and partial happiness that Switzerland offers assisted suicide to those of sound mind who want to die. They have deemed it a legal right to all (even those just visiting their country) to be able to end their lives peacefully. Upon reading about this it brought me to a saddening realization that this is what I have been looking for for a long time. A place that would let me do this legally without me having to research (I have many times done research) the least painful way to die, what supplies would I need, the cleanest way possible, and without burden to those left behind. Though to be honest thats one of the few threads left holding me to this life. What a burden my death will bring upon those I leave behind. The cost of the procedure, the travel, the food and drink, the consequences of my actions…. It was a flood of relief though. So much so I cried so hard. I still cry knowing that my way out is within reach. I cry harder though for the ones I will leave behind. I know and have thought of all the consequences of my actions, every possibility of how this will change everyone’s lives around me, even the possibility that some may try and commit suicide in the wake of my death. I don’t know a way around that and that sounds extremely selfish of me to say…. But i am of sound mind to know that this is what I want. Just having knowledge of this place in Switzerland brings me some peace. Tell me about other places that may also have legalized it for those not terminally ill and not residents of their law. This will bring me more peace. More comfort. More hope. i hope i can save enough money for this journey I want to take. I hope it doesn’t take to long. Nitrogen or potassium cyanide seem so easy to purchase. But the cleanup… I worry about the cleanup. |
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This is a complex topic that I'm not sure what the answer is. In my state of Tennessee it is illegal. However, in other states like Oregon it is legal. Some states are open to the idea while others are not. I could see why somebody would want to go out that way. If they were dying of a painful and horrible disease. When I was young I knew a man who was dying of cancer. His wife said that you could see the tumors throughout his body. He was in so much pain that the morphine was not helping him. He could not take it anymore and took his own life because he was in so much pain. On the other hand this could open the door for Eugenics. Here is were I'm going with this. A few years ago Belgium passed a law that allowed those with Autism and other disabilities to be euthanized. The law had wording in it that made it sound like if the government felt like you were not worthy you could be put down. A lot of disability groups sounded the alarm that this could be Eugenics. Indeed, what is to say that the government could decide oh this group should not be allowed to leave because they are chronically ill. Lets do assisted suicide on them because they are most likely in pain. That is how I could see this leading to Eugenics. There was a guy in Germany from 1932-1945 that did just that. Therefore, its a slippery slope. I could see it for people that were dying a painful death. On the other hand, I could see it being used against certain members of the population if the right people came into power. That is why I really do not know what the answer is. In my state of Tennessee it is illegal. However, in other states like Oregon it is legal. Some states are open to the idea while others are not. I could see why somebody would want to go out that way. If they were dying of a painful and horrible disease. When I was young I knew a man who was dying of cancer. His wife said that you could see the tumors throughout his body. He was in so much pain that the morphine was not helping him. He could not take it anymore and took his own life because he was in so much pain. On the other hand this could open the door for Eugenics. Here is were I'm going with this. A few years ago Belgium passed a law that allowed those with Autism and other disabilities to be euthanized. The law had wording in it that made it sound like if the government felt like you were not worthy you could be put down. A lot of disability groups sounded the alarm that this could be Eugenics. Indeed, what is to say that the government could decide oh this group should not be allowed to leave because they are chronically ill. Lets do assisted suicide on them because they are most likely in pain. That is how I could see this leading to Eugenics. There was a guy in Germany from 1932-1945 that did just that. Therefore, its a slippery slope. I could see it for people that were dying a painful death. On the other hand, I could see it being used against certain members of the population if the right people came into power. That is why I really do not know what the answer is. |
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This is a delicate topic for sure, and I believe it's important for me to urge you to seek legal and medically advice about dying at all costs. In Canada, they have recently loosened their laws on it, but it's still restrictive. You must have a "grievous and irremediable medical condition", which must meet these criteria:
However, Canada has publicly funded healthcare, which is great for the residents, but it means it's hard for visitors to use this service. There may be exceptions, however. You could speak with a lawyer in Canada, it would probably be free to just call them and ask if it's even possible. Personally, I of course believe as many barriers as possible should be removed for people to have the right to choose their end-of-life when facing serious disease. I don't understand the reluctance the governments have for allowing this. In Canada, they have recently loosened their laws on it, but it's still restrictive. You must have a "grievous and irremediable medical condition", which must meet these criteria:
However, Canada has publicly funded healthcare, which is great for the residents, but it means it's hard for visitors to use this service. There may be exceptions, however. You could speak with a lawyer in Canada, it would probably be free to just call them and ask if it's even possible. Personally, I of course believe as many barriers as possible should be removed for people to have the right to choose their end-of-life when facing serious disease. I don't understand the reluctance the governments have for allowing this. |
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