I'm not here to debate whether Joe Biden is "legitimate" or not. That's in the past, and even if he cheated I don't think it can be undone.

However, it now seems that even Democrats and many media outlets want him out. Many distance themselves from him in their primaries, and most become evasive (or outright refuse to respond) when asked directly about Biden.

Do you think Joe Biden will last until 2024? Will he resigned? Or will he be resigned through the 25th (?) amendment?

What happens with Biden is complex. First, his poll numbers are not that great on a good day he polls about 39%. He is mostly 37% not very good especially for a President only in his 2nd year. If polls are right 67% of Democrats want somebody else in 2024.

Here are some Presidents that had horrible poll numbers 1945-Present

1. LBJ had the lowest at 26% approval due to Vietnam. His numbers tanked when it was revealed that the govt staged the Gulf of Token

2. Nixon had an approval rating of 33% due to Watergate.

3. Carter had an approval rating of 35% due to energy crisis inflation, and the Iran crisis.

4. Trump had an approval rating of 40% due to his antics.

I am not making fun of Biden. Biden has a stutter and dyslexia. However, if you look at his speeches from 2012 and even 2016 and compare them to now. You can tell he has declined mentally and cognitively.

I see a few things happening.

Democrats get blown out in the midterms. They lose the house and Senate by several seats. The democrat party sees how Biden pulled their numbers down. Biden signals that he won't run in 2024 due to pressure.

Another Scenario The Hunter Biden investigation becomes a huge scandal. It comes out that Biden helped his son to get money in foreign countries. It gets revealed that both Hunter and President Biden engaged in serious counts of Fraud. Biden resigns due to the scandal.

Third, Biden continues to decline mentally. It gets to the point were President Biden struggles every day to remember were he is going, who he is supposed to be seeing, and what he is supposed to talk about. In this case he gets replaced via the 25th amendment.

Fourth, Biden rides the bleakness democrats realize they do not have really anybody else that can cause them to win the Electoral collage. So they rally behind Biden for 2024.

What happens with Biden is complex. First, his poll numbers are not that great on a good day he polls about 39%. He is mostly 37% not very good especially for a President only in his 2nd year. If polls are right 67% of Democrats want somebody else in 2024.

Here are some Presidents that had horrible poll numbers 1945-Present

1. LBJ had the lowest at 26% approval due to Vietnam. His numbers tanked when it was revealed that the govt staged the Gulf of Token

2. Nixon had an approval rating of 33% due to Watergate.

3. Carter had an approval rating of 35% due to energy crisis inflation, and the Iran crisis.

4. Trump had an approval rating of 40% due to his antics.

I am not making fun of Biden. Biden has a stutter and dyslexia. However, if you look at his speeches from 2012 and even 2016 and compare them to now. You can tell he has declined mentally and cognitively.

I see a few things happening.

Democrats get blown out in the midterms. They lose the house and Senate by several seats. The democrat party sees how Biden pulled their numbers down. Biden signals that he won't run in 2024 due to pressure.

Another Scenario The Hunter Biden investigation becomes a huge scandal. It comes out that Biden helped his son to get money in foreign countries. It gets revealed that both Hunter and President Biden engaged in serious counts of Fraud. Biden resigns due to the scandal.

Third, Biden continues to decline mentally. It gets to the point were President Biden struggles every day to remember were he is going, who he is supposed to be seeing, and what he is supposed to talk about. In this case he gets replaced via the 25th amendment.

Fourth, Biden rides the bleakness democrats realize they do not have really anybody else that can cause them to win the Electoral collage. So they rally behind Biden for 2024.

tornadocam : I would normally agree about the red wave.

However, Republicans have become unhinged since the repel of Roe v Wade. Too many loud mouths are now focusing on petty subjects like contraception and even same-sex marriages. And don't get me started on the Texas GOP platform...

Will Biden even be alive in 2024? he's the oldest serving president ay 79 (overtaking he who must not be named) I'm just considering a Harris/Pelosi Scenario

(and while we're at it what were Clinton's Numbers during the Lewinsky Scandal? what were Bush's numbers like near the end of his term because of the Iraq War and that last minute recession?)

Also I think Republicans were unhinged long before the RvW repel

classgame : lol. Pelosi? She's older than sliced bread. But she does seem more lucid. As for Harris: she doesn't have enough to brag about for her accomplishment to ever be elected as president.

As far as the GOP goes, it seems that Roe v Wade made them even worse. But yes, they are terrible. I live in Texas, and other than no income tax, they quite like intervening in our lives

I don't know why my earlier post posted twice. Sorry about that my computer was having a hiccup.

Anyway, yeah some republicans are still harping on 2020. 2020 is past its time to focus on 2022 and then 2024.

Some of the more extreme ends of the Republican Party could hurt chances of them hitting it big.

Likewise the other side the Democrats have extremist on their side as well that could hurt them. The defund the police movement, which is unpopular, could also hurt democrat chances.

I think the extremists on both ends of the political spectrum is why some people are not enthused about this election.

tornadocam : If I could vote, I wouldn't (I only have a green card). And yet, as things stand right now, Republicans are the less crazy ones. The nuts I talked about earlier seem to be the fringe right now...

I think he contracted covid-19....but that aside the man is old and could probably kill over any day now, in all honesty it can't get much worse, in 2024 let's just all not vote by party lines and vote in the candidate who will further help the country by bringing the economy out of the recession and be the best representative for America and her interests abroad, but in all honesty the democratic party has been the party of gender politics and sexual orientation they are more interested in figuring out what a women is and pandering to the lgbtqia community than trying to focus and deal with real issues that effect everyone regardless of sex, race, gender, sexual orientation etc.

Remember Infrastructure, Education, Inflation, Economics, Trade should be main issues of focus not what a women is and lgbtqia mafia, issues that effect everyone as a whole

JWithout a doubt he will, but I'm questioning more if he'll be capable of running for reelection in 2024. Kamala is one of the least liked vice presidents in the nation's history and has zero charisma to successfully run for the spot, she hasn't even made a VP appearance more than a handful of times. At least Biden told enough awful Grandpa Simpson stories to come off as likable. I think the Dems are going to force him through for another run until 2028, even if their constituents aren't behind it, which may end up handing the race to DeSantis.

I think Joe will be fine until the end of 2024, his health seems relatively fine, seems just like a regular old man. While I disliked Trump, I thought he got unreasonable hate about the health complications and the falling down and whatnot, like that's just what old people do.

Politics wise, I can't possibly see Biden winning reelection unless Trump runs third party or there is some major policy implemented that benefits many of the swing voters. I don't see that happening with the current...issues facing congress with the split chambers and the frequent suing happening to stop Biden's good policies (like the student loan forgiveness). Its a shame that conservatives got to pack the courts during their time in power, because even though the democrats control the white house and the senate, so many good things have been struck down by conservative judges.

I certainly hope Biden doesn't run for reelection, there needs to be a youthful voice going up against Ron Desantis (who everyone presumes will be the republican nominee. It's a shame that there hasn't been someone really step it up, aside from AOC who I am not too sure could win the election due to many of the moderates thinking she's "too extreme".

i think he will last, but yeah i can't see him winning the reelection because a lot of peaple are saying yeah we are tired of trump, we are tired of biden, we want a new face for 2024 election.