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01-24-20 11:23 AM
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A couple months ago there was a new law passed here in NYC and a couple other cities across the country that will most likely become widespread over the next decade or so. The new law will go into effect at some point this year and has to do with marijuana and applying for a job.

As it stands, many places test for marijuana during the hiring process. If an applicant was found to have been using marijuana, even if it was a few months beforehand, their application is usually thrown out. This law is going to change that and make it so that most jobs are no longer able to test for marijuana. Only places in certain fields will be able to such police, hospitals, schools, and construction.

What do you think of this law? Are you on the side of the workers where you think smoking isn't that big of a deal? Or that smoking 5 months ago shouldn't affect you now?

Or are you on the side of the employers where they believe marijuana can affect the safety and productivity of not only the worker but those around them?
A couple months ago there was a new law passed here in NYC and a couple other cities across the country that will most likely become widespread over the next decade or so. The new law will go into effect at some point this year and has to do with marijuana and applying for a job.

As it stands, many places test for marijuana during the hiring process. If an applicant was found to have been using marijuana, even if it was a few months beforehand, their application is usually thrown out. This law is going to change that and make it so that most jobs are no longer able to test for marijuana. Only places in certain fields will be able to such police, hospitals, schools, and construction.

What do you think of this law? Are you on the side of the workers where you think smoking isn't that big of a deal? Or that smoking 5 months ago shouldn't affect you now?

Or are you on the side of the employers where they believe marijuana can affect the safety and productivity of not only the worker but those around them?
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I think that's a wonderful move. You can only imagine how many hypocritical bosses show up to work hungover and hazy every day, but wouldn't hire a skilled worker that makes more responsible choices with their personal health.


As marijuana is hundreds of times safer than alcohol with minimal long term effects for those without a pre-existing condition, it should not be criminalized along the lines of things like heroin and crack that are clearly more dangerous, if we are to be criminalizing these things in the first place. As seen in Denmark during one of their highest opiod epidemics in the 90s, they had rates of drug use (heroin, codeine) so high that it was destroying their economy, and the drugs that were being sold by illegal manufacturers were laced with things that were killing people very quickly. In response, the government, instead of imprisoning the majority of their population, started to decriminalize, regulate, make the drugs untampered, sold at pennies compared to the black market in their own stores, and offered counselling and employment services to any of those affected so they could get back on their feet and return to a regular life. There are now fewer than 500 people there who use those services, essentially eradicating the problem. It goes to show that as long as we have a prohibition on drugs, or discriminate, imprison, or kill (Phillipines) their users, we will always see a big, dangerous market for it, and unless we take that market and make it our own, we will see many more epidemics to come.

When it comes to marijuana, however, nobody is dying from it, nobody is facing severe side effects from it on a large scale, and it not only helps curb alcohol abuse, but it is a cleaner, more controlled drug that not only causes dramatically less damage to you, but those around you as well. Now that many places have started to regulate and sell it, we have a cleaner product that offers users a choice in experience through strain types and various scientific and branding characteristics. This helps in identifying physical or mental effects and many who require it as medication use specific types for their required use, not differing at all in terms of medicine we already have out on the market.

What people do in their off time should not matter if they are proven capable of their work, and if they are not showing up to work clearly inebriated, what does the employer care? If you work in an office, what's the problem if they are still performing at expected levels? Obviously heavy machinery operation is a no-go when the active psychoactive ingredient THC is in use, but for those that require it, CBD provides the same health benefits alongside zero intoxication, making it an actual medication that people with epilepsy, cancer, and hundreds of others of afflictions can and should be taking instead of harmful common medications like acetaminophen, certain heart medicines, anti-depressants, addiction cessation like methadone, and a few quality of life medications to ease cancer patients. The problem is, though, is that under a normal drug test, the average CBD user will likely see a false positive in a drug test, meaning that they will lose their jobs, or be stuck without one, meaning they might be stuck on the street, find hard times, be offered a way out through harder drugs, and then serious addicts are created.

All of this is for what, exactly? Thinning the herd? As non-violent drug related offenses are given time in double digits, and the 13th amendment of the United States makes slave labor through privately owned profiteers in the prison industry possible, there are now millions of would-be innocents in prison, more than Soviet Russia had in the 30s. Instead of helping these people out of their situations, we're enslaving them and in some places killing them.

However, to say that this particular substance is something that fully alters mental and physical capabilities for every user is just a misunderstanding of the substance, which on the US governments part has been a long chapter in its criminalization, which was born out of a desire to keep out or imprison Mexican immigrants, as it was largely their preferred substance opposed to alcohol. Support of keeping marijuana illegal, or rejecting workers on the sole basis of their use, is essentially an act born out of racism.

I think that's a wonderful move. You can only imagine how many hypocritical bosses show up to work hungover and hazy every day, but wouldn't hire a skilled worker that makes more responsible choices with their personal health.


As marijuana is hundreds of times safer than alcohol with minimal long term effects for those without a pre-existing condition, it should not be criminalized along the lines of things like heroin and crack that are clearly more dangerous, if we are to be criminalizing these things in the first place. As seen in Denmark during one of their highest opiod epidemics in the 90s, they had rates of drug use (heroin, codeine) so high that it was destroying their economy, and the drugs that were being sold by illegal manufacturers were laced with things that were killing people very quickly. In response, the government, instead of imprisoning the majority of their population, started to decriminalize, regulate, make the drugs untampered, sold at pennies compared to the black market in their own stores, and offered counselling and employment services to any of those affected so they could get back on their feet and return to a regular life. There are now fewer than 500 people there who use those services, essentially eradicating the problem. It goes to show that as long as we have a prohibition on drugs, or discriminate, imprison, or kill (Phillipines) their users, we will always see a big, dangerous market for it, and unless we take that market and make it our own, we will see many more epidemics to come.

When it comes to marijuana, however, nobody is dying from it, nobody is facing severe side effects from it on a large scale, and it not only helps curb alcohol abuse, but it is a cleaner, more controlled drug that not only causes dramatically less damage to you, but those around you as well. Now that many places have started to regulate and sell it, we have a cleaner product that offers users a choice in experience through strain types and various scientific and branding characteristics. This helps in identifying physical or mental effects and many who require it as medication use specific types for their required use, not differing at all in terms of medicine we already have out on the market.

What people do in their off time should not matter if they are proven capable of their work, and if they are not showing up to work clearly inebriated, what does the employer care? If you work in an office, what's the problem if they are still performing at expected levels? Obviously heavy machinery operation is a no-go when the active psychoactive ingredient THC is in use, but for those that require it, CBD provides the same health benefits alongside zero intoxication, making it an actual medication that people with epilepsy, cancer, and hundreds of others of afflictions can and should be taking instead of harmful common medications like acetaminophen, certain heart medicines, anti-depressants, addiction cessation like methadone, and a few quality of life medications to ease cancer patients. The problem is, though, is that under a normal drug test, the average CBD user will likely see a false positive in a drug test, meaning that they will lose their jobs, or be stuck without one, meaning they might be stuck on the street, find hard times, be offered a way out through harder drugs, and then serious addicts are created.

All of this is for what, exactly? Thinning the herd? As non-violent drug related offenses are given time in double digits, and the 13th amendment of the United States makes slave labor through privately owned profiteers in the prison industry possible, there are now millions of would-be innocents in prison, more than Soviet Russia had in the 30s. Instead of helping these people out of their situations, we're enslaving them and in some places killing them.

However, to say that this particular substance is something that fully alters mental and physical capabilities for every user is just a misunderstanding of the substance, which on the US governments part has been a long chapter in its criminalization, which was born out of a desire to keep out or imprison Mexican immigrants, as it was largely their preferred substance opposed to alcohol. Support of keeping marijuana illegal, or rejecting workers on the sole basis of their use, is essentially an act born out of racism.

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I have to say being a medical marijuana patient myself it's helped a lot and some cases kinda helped me keep my cool (on and off the job). In the part of the U.S. I'm in there's not much discrimination against marijuana. I've straight been walking down the street here smoking a joint and not gotten. I'm in Arkansas which surprisingly to me has been fairly progressive in that aspect.

Here though the situation is still very much the same when it comes to work place accidents and the insurance company. Drug tests here and I'm sure everywhere are done when work place accidents occur. It sucks because I've seen someone be fired for having THC in their system even tho they weren't high at the time of the accident. The system is really f***ed (pardon my French) to pot smokers and people who want freedom anymore in general.
I have to say being a medical marijuana patient myself it's helped a lot and some cases kinda helped me keep my cool (on and off the job). In the part of the U.S. I'm in there's not much discrimination against marijuana. I've straight been walking down the street here smoking a joint and not gotten. I'm in Arkansas which surprisingly to me has been fairly progressive in that aspect.

Here though the situation is still very much the same when it comes to work place accidents and the insurance company. Drug tests here and I'm sure everywhere are done when work place accidents occur. It sucks because I've seen someone be fired for having THC in their system even tho they weren't high at the time of the accident. The system is really f***ed (pardon my French) to pot smokers and people who want freedom anymore in general.
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support. So when I become the boss at my job I'll only hire the weedmen
support. So when I become the boss at my job I'll only hire the weedmen
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zanderlex : If a person hasn't smoked in several months or longer it shouldn't count against them. Drug use whether or not weed counts as a actual drug can impact someone. This is especially true in a dangerous job like construction. On the other hand when you have bosses that do nothing but come in high or drunk or with a minus 20 iq that have a job only cause of connection the problem becomes quite a bit more complicated.
zanderlex : If a person hasn't smoked in several months or longer it shouldn't count against them. Drug use whether or not weed counts as a actual drug can impact someone. This is especially true in a dangerous job like construction. On the other hand when you have bosses that do nothing but come in high or drunk or with a minus 20 iq that have a job only cause of connection the problem becomes quite a bit more complicated.
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I never really understood why Marijuana was so bad, like sure I get like crack and cocaine, as it absolutely kills your brain hard, requiring constant use to get it to the same state it was. However Marijuana from the friends I've seen use it, is similar to smoking, it calms them down.

While you shouldn't do it if it's illegal in your state, if this law passes, it will help those in legal states get a job more easily, so I'm down for it.
I never really understood why Marijuana was so bad, like sure I get like crack and cocaine, as it absolutely kills your brain hard, requiring constant use to get it to the same state it was. However Marijuana from the friends I've seen use it, is similar to smoking, it calms them down.

While you shouldn't do it if it's illegal in your state, if this law passes, it will help those in legal states get a job more easily, so I'm down for it.
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As someone who does hiring myself, I am for it. I hate when a fantastic candidate is barred because they didn't quite get that THC out of their system like they thought they did. Sure, some who smoke come to work high and are unproductive, but some people are just flat unproductive and lazy, with or without weed. As far as long term effects of use well, anyone professional will tell you chemicals like that have a standard effect, but don't always effect everyone equally. If your candidate for hire is a burn out you can usually tell if you're thorough enough. Sure some are good at playing up for the interview but the trick is to ask unexpected questions and/or do unexpected things. Throw them off their grove and see how they handle it.
As someone who does hiring myself, I am for it. I hate when a fantastic candidate is barred because they didn't quite get that THC out of their system like they thought they did. Sure, some who smoke come to work high and are unproductive, but some people are just flat unproductive and lazy, with or without weed. As far as long term effects of use well, anyone professional will tell you chemicals like that have a standard effect, but don't always effect everyone equally. If your candidate for hire is a burn out you can usually tell if you're thorough enough. Sure some are good at playing up for the interview but the trick is to ask unexpected questions and/or do unexpected things. Throw them off their grove and see how they handle it.
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I don't really care about this from the work prospective I have personal history with being around weed that makes me despise it. To give a bit of backstory my step dad use to smoke it all the time and be pretty much addicted to it to the point of selling all my video games multiple times to be able to buy more which mean't growing up I was constantly struggling to rebuild my library of PS2 games which was my first console and I held it very dear he would even go so far to tell my mom to take back me and my younger brother's Christmas presents so they could buy more weed. I get that most people probably won't get my view point on this but I want nothing to do with it.
I don't really care about this from the work prospective I have personal history with being around weed that makes me despise it. To give a bit of backstory my step dad use to smoke it all the time and be pretty much addicted to it to the point of selling all my video games multiple times to be able to buy more which mean't growing up I was constantly struggling to rebuild my library of PS2 games which was my first console and I held it very dear he would even go so far to tell my mom to take back me and my younger brother's Christmas presents so they could buy more weed. I get that most people probably won't get my view point on this but I want nothing to do with it.
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SonicOlmstead : My mother was a full blown alcoholic so I can understand. My Grandad raised me and eventually stopped letting my mom take me after multiple instances of my mom pawning my stuff. After my grandad died, when I was 8, I was taken in by my dad who was a junkie and by that point, if I wanted to keep anything I had of remote value I had to hide it from my dad.

I'm sorry to hear that's still a sore spot for you, it can leave a huge mark of distrust not just with users but people in general sometimes. As for Marijuana, I personally don't use it but that's because I have a strong aversion to it's effects, likely due to being on the autism spectrum. It seems to amplify my symptoms greatly, causing every texture and sound to become highly unpleasant and makes me near incapable of communicating what I want to communicate. It's as if there is a sort of haze around my attempts. Like trying to speak or even gesture through a huge wall of static. People would think I was just high but I wouldn't even be that high yet.

I've been around a lot of smokers though and I can say some are pretty cool, some are not. I can also say that about people in general. I understand the aversion and if it's something you want to personally avoid by all means do so. I do hope you don't write a person off however because they smoke instead of just choosing not to be around them when they do. I can understand the aversion but I hope you remember not all people are like that. The problem was with your step dad. Not saying you do, or even something is wrong with you if you do (it would be an understandable reaction) just something to think about if that is the case

Sorry if this reply was weird, feels a bit weird, but hey maybe not lol
SonicOlmstead : My mother was a full blown alcoholic so I can understand. My Grandad raised me and eventually stopped letting my mom take me after multiple instances of my mom pawning my stuff. After my grandad died, when I was 8, I was taken in by my dad who was a junkie and by that point, if I wanted to keep anything I had of remote value I had to hide it from my dad.

I'm sorry to hear that's still a sore spot for you, it can leave a huge mark of distrust not just with users but people in general sometimes. As for Marijuana, I personally don't use it but that's because I have a strong aversion to it's effects, likely due to being on the autism spectrum. It seems to amplify my symptoms greatly, causing every texture and sound to become highly unpleasant and makes me near incapable of communicating what I want to communicate. It's as if there is a sort of haze around my attempts. Like trying to speak or even gesture through a huge wall of static. People would think I was just high but I wouldn't even be that high yet.

I've been around a lot of smokers though and I can say some are pretty cool, some are not. I can also say that about people in general. I understand the aversion and if it's something you want to personally avoid by all means do so. I do hope you don't write a person off however because they smoke instead of just choosing not to be around them when they do. I can understand the aversion but I hope you remember not all people are like that. The problem was with your step dad. Not saying you do, or even something is wrong with you if you do (it would be an understandable reaction) just something to think about if that is the case

Sorry if this reply was weird, feels a bit weird, but hey maybe not lol
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