Remove Ad, Sign Up
Register to Remove Ad
Register to Remove Ad
Remove Ad, Sign Up
Register to Remove Ad
Register to Remove Ad
Signup for Free!
-More Features-
-Far Less Ads-
About   Users   Help
Users & Guests Online
On Page: 1
Directory: 108
Entire Site: 8 & 1091
Page Staff: pennylessz, pokemon x, Barathemos, tgags123, alexanyways, RavusRat,
05-04-24 05:13 PM

Thread Information

Views
375
Replies
3
Rating
0
Status
CLOSED
Thread
Creator
alexanyways
01-18-20 10:52 PM
Last
Post
pennylessz
01-20-20 12:37 AM
Additional Thread Details
Views: 329
Today: 0
Users: 3 unique

Thread Actions

Thread Closed
New Thread
New Poll
Order
 

Cancel Culture and its Relation to the Punishment vs Rehabilitation Argument

 

01-18-20 10:52 PM
alexanyways is Offline
| ID: 1375655 | 220 Words

alexanyways
Level: 193


POSTS: 12104/12496
POST EXP: 610413
LVL EXP: 100565953
CP: 14496.0
VIZ: 137160

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
The last four years has been a rollercoaster of celebrities, politicians, and the rich and famous, being ousted for horrific acts. Some were very severe physical crimes, and the others were mentally devastating. Some, reactionary and opportunistic, took the opportunity to tarnish a movement of purification as bold as #metoo, to outright boycott specific people in the industry until they face justice for their crimes.

This is a noble cause. These people have been hiding in the shadows doing whatever they wanted for decades. They deserve to pay for it. Some more than others. However, this conversation brings up the question of whether or not it these people should be accepted back into society or return to their former posts or social status.

Those in favor of punishment would write these individuals and their previous accomplishments off, and permanently discontinue the use of their work. Those in favor of rehabilitation for crime would argue that after some time has passed and they have suffered severe consequence as a result, should they return to society in a clean way, they can continue to create positive contributions.

I'm in the camp of rehabilitation in cases like what happened with Louis CK, but I would never want Bill Cosby or Kevin Spacey returning to the public eye because of their clear cut evil.



The last four years has been a rollercoaster of celebrities, politicians, and the rich and famous, being ousted for horrific acts. Some were very severe physical crimes, and the others were mentally devastating. Some, reactionary and opportunistic, took the opportunity to tarnish a movement of purification as bold as #metoo, to outright boycott specific people in the industry until they face justice for their crimes.

This is a noble cause. These people have been hiding in the shadows doing whatever they wanted for decades. They deserve to pay for it. Some more than others. However, this conversation brings up the question of whether or not it these people should be accepted back into society or return to their former posts or social status.

Those in favor of punishment would write these individuals and their previous accomplishments off, and permanently discontinue the use of their work. Those in favor of rehabilitation for crime would argue that after some time has passed and they have suffered severe consequence as a result, should they return to society in a clean way, they can continue to create positive contributions.

I'm in the camp of rehabilitation in cases like what happened with Louis CK, but I would never want Bill Cosby or Kevin Spacey returning to the public eye because of their clear cut evil.



Vizzed Elite

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 02-24-10
Last Post: 234 days
Last Active: 221 days

01-19-20 01:45 AM
m0ssb3rg935 is Offline
| ID: 1378680 | 150 Words

m0ssb3rg935
m0ssb3rg935
Level: 109


POSTS: 3574/3607
POST EXP: 283159
LVL EXP: 13826930
CP: 22121.1
VIZ: 925924

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
I can't say I'm familiar with the Spacey controversy because I don't really keep up with the celebrity stuff. However, regardless of the incident, I don't feel like anyone should be permanently stigmatized. I feel like it's wrong to believe anyone irredeemable because it denies them the chance.

At the end of the day, everyone's better or worse equipped to deal with their problems and their environment and everyone is a product of that environment. I'm not saying that should excuse anything, but even the worst people in the world weren't born awful. The only really effective approach to this problem is a holistic one. Understanding what made them they way they are and how, and making sure not to repeat the mistake by adjusting how we treat each other.


So I guess the short answer is that I'm not only in the rehabilitation camp, I'm also opposed to cancellation.
I can't say I'm familiar with the Spacey controversy because I don't really keep up with the celebrity stuff. However, regardless of the incident, I don't feel like anyone should be permanently stigmatized. I feel like it's wrong to believe anyone irredeemable because it denies them the chance.

At the end of the day, everyone's better or worse equipped to deal with their problems and their environment and everyone is a product of that environment. I'm not saying that should excuse anything, but even the worst people in the world weren't born awful. The only really effective approach to this problem is a holistic one. Understanding what made them they way they are and how, and making sure not to repeat the mistake by adjusting how we treat each other.


So I guess the short answer is that I'm not only in the rehabilitation camp, I'm also opposed to cancellation.
Vizzed Elite
Former Admin
Token Clueless Guy to Make Others Look Smarter


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 03-09-13
Location: Tennessee
Last Post: 855 days
Last Active: 522 days

01-19-20 11:45 AM
Lonalan is Offline
| ID: 1378725 | 59 Words

Lonalan
LuckyCharms
Level: 58


POSTS: 674/1132
POST EXP: 50890
LVL EXP: 1563469
CP: 937.3
VIZ: 694

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
I have seen many cases like this and I do feel like people are definitely much more likely to encourage cancel culture even before they know the full story and people usually do it since they like the drama but I feel like it is much more serious than that since it affects their careers more times than not.
I have seen many cases like this and I do feel like people are definitely much more likely to encourage cancel culture even before they know the full story and people usually do it since they like the drama but I feel like it is much more serious than that since it affects their careers more times than not.
Trusted Member
TheWeebxP


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 09-23-19
Location: London, England
Last Post: 21 days
Last Active: 21 days

01-20-20 12:37 AM
pennylessz is Offline
| ID: 1378792 | 174 Words

pennylessz
Level: 99


POSTS: 2066/2631
POST EXP: 134008
LVL EXP: 9728519
CP: 5594.5
VIZ: 317256

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
I've never made a stance on this, so I'll define one here. In my opinion, it depends on the length of time and circumstances around their criminal activity. If they've been doing it for years, and harshly, they probably don't deserve such a high position in society. These people are role models, we don't want to send the message that you can get away with whatever you want.

On the other hand. I do believe everyone should have a chance at rehabilitation. Just I don't necessarily believe in restoring former status. Of course, this Country of mine is supposed to be free, so they're more than welcome to try. The important part is that they're not going to repeat offend, I couldn't care less if they become rich again.

I'm saying this as someone who loved Kevin Spacey's work. It's unfortunate that he had to do what he did, but society has a way of delivering its own set of consequences regardless of legal punishment. I doubt he could ever reclaim what he had.
I've never made a stance on this, so I'll define one here. In my opinion, it depends on the length of time and circumstances around their criminal activity. If they've been doing it for years, and harshly, they probably don't deserve such a high position in society. These people are role models, we don't want to send the message that you can get away with whatever you want.

On the other hand. I do believe everyone should have a chance at rehabilitation. Just I don't necessarily believe in restoring former status. Of course, this Country of mine is supposed to be free, so they're more than welcome to try. The important part is that they're not going to repeat offend, I couldn't care less if they become rich again.

I'm saying this as someone who loved Kevin Spacey's work. It's unfortunate that he had to do what he did, but society has a way of delivering its own set of consequences regardless of legal punishment. I doubt he could ever reclaim what he had.
Vizzed Elite

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 02-10-10
Location: Within the wires.
Last Post: 164 days
Last Active: 39 days

Links

Page Comments


This page has no comments

Adblocker detected!

Vizzed.com is very expensive to keep alive! The Ads pay for the servers.

Vizzed has 3 TB worth of games and 1 TB worth of music.  This site is free to use but the ads barely pay for the monthly server fees.  If too many more people use ad block, the site cannot survive.

We prioritize the community over the site profits.  This is why we avoid using annoying (but high paying) ads like most other sites which include popups, obnoxious sounds and animations, malware, and other forms of intrusiveness.  We'll do our part to never resort to these types of ads, please do your part by helping support this site by adding Vizzed.com to your ad blocking whitelist.

×