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10-12-17 02:25 AM
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  As maker of this neat poll, I get to comment first. That is my privilege. Ah yes. I savour it. Check.

 Hmmm. Tough decision I have made for myself.

 Some observations to get out of the way before I decide.

 Listening to Mr. Eminem's new rap solo sampled from a TV talk show by my local radio, reminded me of how his magnificent wealth has made him quite lazy on the skill development end of things. His career-making muscles [located in the larynx and frontal cortex] have gotten way out of shape. Has it really been so long since he sharpened the saw that he does not at all remember what sharp feels like? Or sounds like?

 Even the Eminem rap song from archives they played afterwards sounded weak. It was him talking in an uninteresting spiel about how he was sorry to all he had insulted when he shouldn't have when he was feeling all negative and depressed. At the end of that bit, he giggled that he's back. Didn't that come out ten or more years ago? That was a time of great business. Why did the rap go south?

 Why is he still trying to be what got his name up in lights? He hasn't got it anymore. Other careers are wide open when everybody knows your name. He could just pick something else to busy himself if that's what he needs. Have I mentioned Mr. Eminem is abundantly wealthy? Kicking back at his private pool might be more preferable when people today are just tuning into his music now for name-only reasons [peer pressure - be cool] and not the actual music.

Moving on to the artist formerly known as Mr. President. I seem to be reminded of a previous President of the USA being insulted by a popular country star in a group. The entire country singing group got raked over the coals and blacklisted in places all over the USA by the unwashed masses who may have assumed they were anti-patriots for standing by what she said. The president at that time was also known as a jerk and bonehead. Cowboys leapt out of their ill-fitting boots to roar that you don't talk about their leader that way. Death threats were reported.

 Does Mr. Eminem want to receive hate mail from New England "Patriots" fans? Is that going to help him get his edge back? Austerity in his early life did push him mercilessly to make something happen with his rap. Still not sure his currently cushy life is anything to complain about but you never know.

 So on to the current president of the USA, many people claim to hate him and mostly started that dialogue only after he declared candidacy. You would think these people were lifelong haters [maybe they are, just with different things] but maybe any current world leader makes a handy target. The outgoing president was not as easy to hate on because observers registered him as a minority.

 These recent presidencies have similarities. Both second generation Americans by their legally immigrating father. Both successful and brilliant in their ways. Not synonymous by name with the 1990s Clinton affair. Great qualifications for the United States presidency today.
How did they receive such unbridled pejorative criticism during their respective campaigns and presidencies and yet still they stand straighter than any Clinton or Bush? Implausible?

 Could it be that the straightest path is through the mud?  Picture a gauntlet of mud-slingers waiting for you with a giggle. Would you duck your head and run away? Maybe you would presidentially adjust your hair and walk calmly through their midst.

 Maybe I am one of the people that do not care about this. I have not been at the bird's nest for a long while and I do not have an account with them. I suppose that makes me deaf to all the tittering of little birdies that really do not matter to me at all.

 Peace out

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Personally I am not a fan of both. Eminem is very vulgar and a lot of his songs are nasty. When his songs come on in the stores I just want to put my muff's on. Trump I cannot stand I am typically conservative on most issues. Trump is very obnoxious, mocked the disabled, bragged about sexual assault. He also acts very immature on twitter. Some of his tweets are very unprofessional for  a President. When he is on the TV I just want to turn it off. 

The group you are referring too was the Dixie Chicks. They did not get into trouble for making fun of George W Bush that is what the media wants people to think. What did them in was when they were in London they denounced America and called the US troops terrorist. The original quote was " I am ashamed to be an American. I am ashamed of the US President. However I am more ashamed we have troops that are terrorist. I agree with Rosie O'donnel who is really the terrorists" Said by the Dixie Cheeks lead Singer. After that radio stations banned them.  So had they just gone after Bush they would have been okay. I mean a lot of artists blasted out Johnson for his war in Vietnam. What got the Dixie Chicks was when they called the troops terrorists. 

But getting back to Trump. I don't really care because he is a Joke. I will say that Hillary was just as a poor choice. This is what happens when you have two very very bad choices for President. You get a joke of a President. That is what Trump is and again I am conservative. I don't like Eminem either as his music is garbage. But its his right to criticize the Commander in Chief. 
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  Oh my .  Thank you for getting back to me on this .

 I will agree . That Eminem is some rude weirdo .  Trump polarizes people for political reasons, Eminem does it to sell records as he famously explains in his raps .

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Eminem,what happened? You used to spot fire and were clever with a verse. Now,you are soft and your rhymes are weak. Congrats,you became the thing you used to make fun of. Take your own advice and call it quits.

But seriously,watch your ass,Marshall. If you try to advocate any kind of harm against a President,your career will be over like Kathy Griffin's.

Trump does have his own issues like needing to have complete control,he is too used to getting what he wants. He is trying to do good things,like protecting the country and rewriting the tax code.
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There are some of Eminem's songs that I like. I like Eminem better than Trump, though. Trump has done some racist-ish things, and he put a ban on transgender people serving in the army. I just don't like Trump.
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Fancdew  :  That is good of you to share your feelings on the subject. Thank you very much.

  I ought to point out before I sign off that Eminem has made some rather racist-ish recordings. He has cursed out entire communities of people far less peculiar than the trannies. His voice did have an influence. Now that public sentiment has turned against what he is known for saying, he is rarely heard about.

 The greatest widespread effect Donald has had from just being recorded : talking that one time very lewdly about women. There were[still are] hateful, crass jerks all over the USA irreverently never giving women respect. The dawn of the day it became the "in" thing for people with hate- control problems to direct their ever-present hatred solely at the Donald, they started attempting a civil tongue so as not to be like the one they hated. Mister President is having an unexpected effect in reforming the behavior of horrible people so they may hate him more purely.

 Homework assignment : Please, "do" try this at home.

 Every single time something goes wrong in your personal life, acknowledge that it is definitely Donald Trump's fault that this drawback has befallen you. He's evil, right? Everybody says so. That makes all your problems his fault. It's not like your world experienced abjection before he won the presidential election so who else's agenda could have ruined your life, screwed up your day or made you feel enraged with your present situation?

 At the mere mention of DT, practice assuming a bad mood complete with glued on dour expression. He did this to you. Do not deny it.



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When it comes to Trump, I'll just say, "I voted for the other guy."  I don't support Trump and I feel like his motivation was more like just seeing how far he could go.  Suddenly, he's in a presidential election, a winnable one, and he tries hard.  Suddenly, he wins the election because Hillary was so unlikeable.

Eminem has been irrelevant the past year or so in the music world.  Rap has moved on and changed it culture and he's not keeping up with the times.  The guy is like 45 years old and he simply doesn't appeal to the younger generations compared to new rappers coming out on the scene.

When Eminem sent that video and his rap to the President, it felt like he was trying to stay current and in the picture.  I didn't think he was creative or especially new with anything.  He has a skill and his lyrics will always be excellent in a technically sense but it sounded hollow when you actually heard him rap.

Trump simply didn't respond because he saw it for what it was: Small potatoes.  It didn't matter.  He would have given legitimacy to Eminem if he responded so he did the smart thing and sat back and did nothing.

Personally, I think it's a manufactured beef.  It's like Taylor Swift vs. everybody or Nicholas Cage vs. Oprah, or any of those celebrity feuds.

I don't care.
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Ghostbear is right,Trump saw Eminem as just nothing to be upset about. I agree that when Em started,he would spit fire on the mic and did not care who he offended. He has gotten lazy and that video shows it. He still has name recognition and he could be huge again if he chooses to be.
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Side note: You mention the 'other group' getting raked over the coals for insulting the President.  You didn't mention who for whatever reason but I'm guessing you meant the Dixie Chicks and Bush?  I remember watching people burn their Dixie Chicks CDs and radio stations banning playing the music.  They, i.e. The Dixie Chicks, were a popular group with the people who voted for Bush.  They represented the right right Conservative country music listening population who directly impacted both elections for Bush.  When they did what they did, they basically destroyed their fan base through insult.

Eminem, however, is widely listened to by the opposition of Trump.  So he didn't take a lot of fire because he wasn't alienating his own group of people.  If he attacked Obama, sure, we have the same thing happening.  He didn't so the comparison you make isn't a fair one from where I'm standing.

And, interesting enough, I live in the Detroit area and it was a big deal, Eminem attacking Trump, for about a week.  And then everyone went back to what they were doing because our news cycle has shortened significantly the past 15 years or so.  now things last for 20 minutes until news outlets find something else happening.
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