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08-26-17 09:11 PM
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SPOILER WARNING it took 3 and a half months and it was great my favorite things about it were the plot and characters cause they were so rich i loved the plot because it was so multilayered and stuff. there were so many different kinds of conflicts going on at the same time and a lot of them happened inside the characters' own heads, which was really cool to me. i found the themes really neat too, and the ways in which the books criticized aspects of real life were great. a couple of these criticisms were of hypocrisy and of blind faith in establishment. they worked out so well because there were a lot of points where i really, really questioned how different the bad guys were from the government that was trying to stop them. it was also complex in that the characters were sort of placed in a "delicate balance," but i'll talk about that in the next paragraph more i liked the characters cause i felt like they could be real. magic and stuff aside, a lot of them reminded me of people i know in real life and some of them even made me think of myself? i know it sounds weird but yeah. there were so many different kinds of characters too, like two completely awful women who aren't even on the same side. even though they work for different people, i can't decide which one i hate more. not only are they on different sides (there are more than just two, by the way) but they really are just fundamentally unalike. they say and do very different things but i want to slap both of them in the face and if i had the chance to do it to one of them i wouldn't be able to pick who. but yeah, so many different types of characters. lots of good guys, lots of bad guys, lots of weird in-between guys, none of them the same. as for the "delicate balance," there were a lot of points where i didn't even know what i wanted to happen, or who i wanted to "win," cause the situations and the characters in them were so uncannily realistic that no possible outcome could be "perfect." by that i mean frequently, one character's victory meant another character's hell, and vice versa, even though i didn't know who i preferred and/or just wanted both of them to be happy. very hard to pick who to root for sometimes. i also found myself starting to make predictions that sounded less like "i think _ is gonna happen because that's what usually happens in books," and more like "i think _ is gonna happen because that's what usually happens in real life, and that's just how people think/act." it was a lot of fun the balance between funny stuff and serious stuff was, in general, satisfying enough for me, but it did feel consistently "heavy" sometimes when there were less "humor breaks" or whatever than usual. i like to laugh, but kinda found myself laughing less and less as the series went on and it felt a bit tiring/draining with the stuff about war/philosophy/all that jazz. i only cried like once but i suspect that pms/customarily inexplicable teenage moodiness (or the fact that i was tired/wanted food/have a twin myself) played a role in that lmao. you cannot just kill off one twin....... like this is gonna sound horrible but both or neither please? just let them be together at least? why would any author do this like....... it shouldn't be allowed. rip now for the stuff i didn't like as much. it wasn't just heavy "feeling-wise," but literally. they're long books. really long books. i don't have anything against long books, but it can be hard to make a book that long and not have it drag at least a little. harry potter, in my opinion, struggles a bit with that, but not enough to ruin the whole thing or make it any less rewarding at the end. in fact, it sort of makes the twists/revelations (which are REALLY good) feel even better, cause it gives them more suspense to lie on. it's like those roller coasters where going up takes forever but it's worth it cause when you go down it's crazy. still though, there are probably quite a few stretches of harry thinking to himself or stubbing his toe that the books wouldn't have suffered without also comma splices are everywhere and they kind of drove me INSANE!!!!!!! at first but i researched it and apparently they're acceptable in some contexts so whatever. i got used to them finally, maybe this is just because i'm stupid but some parts (especially dumbledore's explanations of magic stuff) were too vague/reliant on my memory of specific stuff that happened earlier for me to understand them well. i had to read some of them over and over again and i usually mostly got it in the end but in the last book i just got so lost toward the end lol. i didn't miss enough to not appreciate the ending or overall plot but i still don't really understand the thing about harry and voldemort sharing blood/harry's mom's enchantment/what the difference between said enchantment and the "bond of blood" is???????/whether it was just that that saved harry or also the fact that he was the master of the elder wand/HOW THE ENCHANTMENT AND BOND OF BLOOD THING EVEN WORK EXACTLY LIKE UGHHHHHHH. maybe i'll try again when i'm older or something still though, i loved the books overall, and i drew something today to "commemorate" me finishing them (yeah i have no life.) ever notice how harry's house (gryffindor) and "signature spell" (expelliarmus) are red, and voldemort's house (slytherin) and "signature spell" (avada kedavra) are green? BUT harry's eyes are green and voldemort's eyes are red? in all likelihood it means literally nothing but it interests me for some reason and it makes for a nice drawing anyway so yeah it took 3 and a half months and it was great my favorite things about it were the plot and characters cause they were so rich i loved the plot because it was so multilayered and stuff. there were so many different kinds of conflicts going on at the same time and a lot of them happened inside the characters' own heads, which was really cool to me. i found the themes really neat too, and the ways in which the books criticized aspects of real life were great. a couple of these criticisms were of hypocrisy and of blind faith in establishment. they worked out so well because there were a lot of points where i really, really questioned how different the bad guys were from the government that was trying to stop them. it was also complex in that the characters were sort of placed in a "delicate balance," but i'll talk about that in the next paragraph more i liked the characters cause i felt like they could be real. magic and stuff aside, a lot of them reminded me of people i know in real life and some of them even made me think of myself? i know it sounds weird but yeah. there were so many different kinds of characters too, like two completely awful women who aren't even on the same side. even though they work for different people, i can't decide which one i hate more. not only are they on different sides (there are more than just two, by the way) but they really are just fundamentally unalike. they say and do very different things but i want to slap both of them in the face and if i had the chance to do it to one of them i wouldn't be able to pick who. but yeah, so many different types of characters. lots of good guys, lots of bad guys, lots of weird in-between guys, none of them the same. as for the "delicate balance," there were a lot of points where i didn't even know what i wanted to happen, or who i wanted to "win," cause the situations and the characters in them were so uncannily realistic that no possible outcome could be "perfect." by that i mean frequently, one character's victory meant another character's hell, and vice versa, even though i didn't know who i preferred and/or just wanted both of them to be happy. very hard to pick who to root for sometimes. i also found myself starting to make predictions that sounded less like "i think _ is gonna happen because that's what usually happens in books," and more like "i think _ is gonna happen because that's what usually happens in real life, and that's just how people think/act." it was a lot of fun the balance between funny stuff and serious stuff was, in general, satisfying enough for me, but it did feel consistently "heavy" sometimes when there were less "humor breaks" or whatever than usual. i like to laugh, but kinda found myself laughing less and less as the series went on and it felt a bit tiring/draining with the stuff about war/philosophy/all that jazz. i only cried like once but i suspect that pms/customarily inexplicable teenage moodiness (or the fact that i was tired/wanted food/have a twin myself) played a role in that lmao. you cannot just kill off one twin....... like this is gonna sound horrible but both or neither please? just let them be together at least? why would any author do this like....... it shouldn't be allowed. rip now for the stuff i didn't like as much. it wasn't just heavy "feeling-wise," but literally. they're long books. really long books. i don't have anything against long books, but it can be hard to make a book that long and not have it drag at least a little. harry potter, in my opinion, struggles a bit with that, but not enough to ruin the whole thing or make it any less rewarding at the end. in fact, it sort of makes the twists/revelations (which are REALLY good) feel even better, cause it gives them more suspense to lie on. it's like those roller coasters where going up takes forever but it's worth it cause when you go down it's crazy. still though, there are probably quite a few stretches of harry thinking to himself or stubbing his toe that the books wouldn't have suffered without also comma splices are everywhere and they kind of drove me INSANE!!!!!!! at first but i researched it and apparently they're acceptable in some contexts so whatever. i got used to them finally, maybe this is just because i'm stupid but some parts (especially dumbledore's explanations of magic stuff) were too vague/reliant on my memory of specific stuff that happened earlier for me to understand them well. i had to read some of them over and over again and i usually mostly got it in the end but in the last book i just got so lost toward the end lol. i didn't miss enough to not appreciate the ending or overall plot but i still don't really understand the thing about harry and voldemort sharing blood/harry's mom's enchantment/what the difference between said enchantment and the "bond of blood" is???????/whether it was just that that saved harry or also the fact that he was the master of the elder wand/HOW THE ENCHANTMENT AND BOND OF BLOOD THING EVEN WORK EXACTLY LIKE UGHHHHHHH. maybe i'll try again when i'm older or something still though, i loved the books overall, and i drew something today to "commemorate" me finishing them (yeah i have no life.) ever notice how harry's house (gryffindor) and "signature spell" (expelliarmus) are red, and voldemort's house (slytherin) and "signature spell" (avada kedavra) are green? BUT harry's eyes are green and voldemort's eyes are red? in all likelihood it means literally nothing but it interests me for some reason and it makes for a nice drawing anyway so yeah |
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It's so rare to me to find someone who has read these books for the first time so long after the books and movies have come out.
The books obviously aren't perfect (no book is) but I feel like the negatives were minor in the overall story. Most of the issues I've heard or come up with are nitpicking things at the most. I personally prefer longer books. I want to feel like I can LIVE in the world along with the character. I want to see the important stuff and the normal day to day pointless stuff. That makes the entire thing feel more real and grounded than a book that only shows you the plot defining moments. Honestly, I think that is what the movies lose compared to the books. By the 4th and 5th movies you barely see the day to day anymore and only get the essential plot points on screen. Obviously you can't give every movie the time it needs to mirror the book but the movies definitely lack a lot of the character that the books had. The books obviously aren't perfect (no book is) but I feel like the negatives were minor in the overall story. Most of the issues I've heard or come up with are nitpicking things at the most. I personally prefer longer books. I want to feel like I can LIVE in the world along with the character. I want to see the important stuff and the normal day to day pointless stuff. That makes the entire thing feel more real and grounded than a book that only shows you the plot defining moments. Honestly, I think that is what the movies lose compared to the books. By the 4th and 5th movies you barely see the day to day anymore and only get the essential plot points on screen. Obviously you can't give every movie the time it needs to mirror the book but the movies definitely lack a lot of the character that the books had. |
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geeogree : I agree with you there, and I think Harry Potter setting definitely makes that possible. I'd say that the movies still did a pretty good job rehashing what happened in the books, at least to the point where you can still experience what's happening through the characters. This becomes harder to do beyond the fourth movie though, perhaps that's because books 5-7 are among the largest and cover a lot of hugely important events. All the same though, the books are better in that sense, but the movies still do a good job with it. A short while ago, I finished re-reading the entire series for the first time since I was in middle school. One thing I found funny was the humor used throughout. As a kid, I don't remember laughing nearly as much as I did the second time around, perhaps I didn't understand or appreciate it at the time. Nonetheless, my liking of the series has only been renewed after reading it a second time. I'm glad you enjoyed it, I definitely think the series' positives outweigh its negatives. A short while ago, I finished re-reading the entire series for the first time since I was in middle school. One thing I found funny was the humor used throughout. As a kid, I don't remember laughing nearly as much as I did the second time around, perhaps I didn't understand or appreciate it at the time. Nonetheless, my liking of the series has only been renewed after reading it a second time. I'm glad you enjoyed it, I definitely think the series' positives outweigh its negatives. |
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Good for you man, I personally don't see myself reading the entire series but it's cool that you did. May I recommend the Warriors series next? It's a really good book that even I read. |
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I agree with you on that last part, the foreshadowing in most of the books was horrendous. Kinda bias if you ask me. Eh, I feel that Harry Potter, in general, is a desolate series, (well, in some books anyway.), some books really shine through, such as the Half-Blood Prince or Chamber of Secrets, but some books are really weary, Philosophers Stone and Prisoner of Azkaban What really shined through for me was the characters played out in the book, they took it to a whole new, yet vague level. It felt ambiguous and meaningful. I liked them overall, but J.K Rowling should've stepped it up with some of the books. Eh, I feel that Harry Potter, in general, is a desolate series, (well, in some books anyway.), some books really shine through, such as the Half-Blood Prince or Chamber of Secrets, but some books are really weary, Philosophers Stone and Prisoner of Azkaban What really shined through for me was the characters played out in the book, they took it to a whole new, yet vague level. It felt ambiguous and meaningful. I liked them overall, but J.K Rowling should've stepped it up with some of the books. |
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