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What do you think about Abortion?
It's a good thing
 
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I have one gripe about pro-lifers (no offense to anyone here), but in the past they have been such hipocrits about this. Like the comment about killing women who have abortions.

There was actually a incident once where a pro-lifer killed a doctor who did abortions back in 1993, shot him 3 times right outside the clinic. Any of you ever seen one of Marilyn Manson's songs called Get Your Gunn? Wonder why it's spelled with two n's? That doctor that was killed, his name was Dr. David Gunn of Pensecola, FL. That is where Marilyn Manson began back in the early-mid 90s. If you read the lyrics it's Manson's opinion on the the issue and those type of people.

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I have one gripe about pro-lifers (no offense to anyone here), but in the past they have been such hipocrits about this. Like the comment about killing women who have abortions.

There was actually a incident once where a pro-lifer killed a doctor who did abortions back in 1993, shot him 3 times right outside the clinic. Any of you ever seen one of Marilyn Manson's songs called Get Your Gunn? Wonder why it's spelled with two n's? That doctor that was killed, his name was Dr. David Gunn of Pensecola, FL. That is where Marilyn Manson began back in the early-mid 90s. If you read the lyrics it's Manson's opinion on the the issue and those type of people.

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Acctually i posted that in the wrong thread some how.... i kinda made my self look bad there
Acctually i posted that in the wrong thread some how.... i kinda made my self look bad there
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It's murder, However you look at it, does it matter if you take some 30 year old and kill him , or if you take a baby and kill it...it's no different.

It is taking human life, I heard a story once, Diary of a baby...and it had many journal entrys about whats going on, and how happy her mom will be to see her. But her last entry is, "My mother killed me today"]

I think it is a woman's choice to have an abortion however, because it is a person's choice on whether or not they kill someone, that's my words for the day
It's murder, However you look at it, does it matter if you take some 30 year old and kill him , or if you take a baby and kill it...it's no different.

It is taking human life, I heard a story once, Diary of a baby...and it had many journal entrys about whats going on, and how happy her mom will be to see her. But her last entry is, "My mother killed me today"]

I think it is a woman's choice to have an abortion however, because it is a person's choice on whether or not they kill someone, that's my words for the day
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I think abortion is wrong and totally evil. I think America needs to abort the envirmental Wackos instead of little baby's (what am i saying?)

And yeah there is no excuse for the prolfers to go bomb people.
I think abortion is wrong and totally evil. I think America needs to abort the envirmental Wackos instead of little baby's (what am i saying?)

And yeah there is no excuse for the prolfers to go bomb people.
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Abortion is way wrong, i say it should be world wide illegal. Punishment of having you baby destroyed.... wait that defeats the purpose. Na , you should get murder charges.
Abortion is way wrong, i say it should be world wide illegal. Punishment of having you baby destroyed.... wait that defeats the purpose. Na , you should get murder charges.
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Originally posted by NasusTheGreat
BAHH I THINK I'M GOING INSANE. I actually agree with John on this point. It should only be used in life threatening situations.

yes i must say i agree to thus making it 3 times ive agreed with john
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BAHH I THINK I'M GOING INSANE. I actually agree with John on this point. It should only be used in life threatening situations.

yes i must say i agree to thus making it 3 times ive agreed with john
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I believe that abortion is wrong. The only time it should be allowed is if the person having the child was raped. Then i believe that the victim has the right to choose to have the abortion or not.
I believe that abortion is wrong. The only time it should be allowed is if the person having the child was raped. Then i believe that the victim has the right to choose to have the abortion or not.
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oooo, somebody brings back the thread? Yet only one post? Interesting. Suspicious and interesting.
oooo, somebody brings back the thread? Yet only one post? Interesting. Suspicious and interesting.
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Originally posted by John
I mean i agree with you... but lets say your wife got raped by another man. Could you stand to look at it and love it the same knowning it wasn't yours?
um YA, who the hell cares who the loser father is, it's your child, you can love anything if you don't let stupid things like THAT stop you... i mean c'mon... Is this making any sense ^^
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I mean i agree with you... but lets say your wife got raped by another man. Could you stand to look at it and love it the same knowning it wasn't yours?
um YA, who the hell cares who the loser father is, it's your child, you can love anything if you don't let stupid things like THAT stop you... i mean c'mon... Is this making any sense ^^
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good thing... if people want to do that, that's their decision...
good thing... if people want to do that, that's their decision...
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Originally posted by Mistermog
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I mean i agree with you... but lets say your wife got raped by another man. Could you stand to look at it and love it the same knowning it wasn't yours?
um YA, who the hell cares who the loser father is, it's your child, you can love anything if you don't let stupid things like THAT stop you... i mean c'mon... Is this making any sense ^^


I agreed. I was just putting down a hypothetical situation.
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I mean i agree with you... but lets say your wife got raped by another man. Could you stand to look at it and love it the same knowning it wasn't yours?
um YA, who the hell cares who the loser father is, it's your child, you can love anything if you don't let stupid things like THAT stop you... i mean c'mon... Is this making any sense ^^


I agreed. I was just putting down a hypothetical situation.
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You know, I still find it so hard to accept it when people say that girls who have abortion should serve time in prison for murder, yet 9 times out of 10 these same people are for the death penalty. So, does that mean that exocutioners should serve prison terms as well? They murder people.
You know, I still find it so hard to accept it when people say that girls who have abortion should serve time in prison for murder, yet 9 times out of 10 these same people are for the death penalty. So, does that mean that exocutioners should serve prison terms as well? They murder people.
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When you murder somebody, you have no right to live. You, in my mind, have forfited your rights to live as a person.
When you murder somebody, you have no right to live. You, in my mind, have forfited your rights to live as a person.
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So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...
So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...
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If some1 tryed 2, kill me, i wouldnt kill them, if it were my time to die, i'd be going to die.

But abortion is bad, and wrong. There should be a stronger word for this, like badwrong, or badong. From now on ill stand for the opposite of this.. Gnodab
If some1 tryed 2, kill me, i wouldnt kill them, if it were my time to die, i'd be going to die.

But abortion is bad, and wrong. There should be a stronger word for this, like badwrong, or badong. From now on ill stand for the opposite of this.. Gnodab
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I have noticed how everyone who said it is a bad thing is a part of religion... Christians mostly.

I said undecided mainly because of ther fact that i dont know what it is like to have a child or what it is like to be in the need for an abortion so thats my answer. I think it is up to the person and the situation. If a 16 year old is raped and falls preganant but doesn't want the child, than its ok. But if shes just some s*** and shes sleeps with every guy she meets and get pregnant than no because she was the stupid one.
I have noticed how everyone who said it is a bad thing is a part of religion... Christians mostly.

I said undecided mainly because of ther fact that i dont know what it is like to have a child or what it is like to be in the need for an abortion so thats my answer. I think it is up to the person and the situation. If a 16 year old is raped and falls preganant but doesn't want the child, than its ok. But if shes just some s*** and shes sleeps with every guy she meets and get pregnant than no because she was the stupid one.
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Well consider this. Everyone who has decided on an abortion was already born.

Also Nasus, Cheesermac, and even Jin will he was here aren't what you would call religious and they all say it's wrong.

As to the rape thing, John, Icewave you could put it up for adoption. There are many married couples that can't have kids that want them.

I'm actually quite surprised that this thread is still going.

To be very blunt about this think about it from my point of view; I was adopted. When I was little my parents said that my biological mother died at my birth. I can't guess it that is true or not, but I am more leaning more toward the not... I am thinking that my "mother" decided she didn't want me for one reason or another, but what if she decided to have an abortion? You wouldn't be readingthis post right now.
Well consider this. Everyone who has decided on an abortion was already born.

Also Nasus, Cheesermac, and even Jin will he was here aren't what you would call religious and they all say it's wrong.

As to the rape thing, John, Icewave you could put it up for adoption. There are many married couples that can't have kids that want them.

I'm actually quite surprised that this thread is still going.

To be very blunt about this think about it from my point of view; I was adopted. When I was little my parents said that my biological mother died at my birth. I can't guess it that is true or not, but I am more leaning more toward the not... I am thinking that my "mother" decided she didn't want me for one reason or another, but what if she decided to have an abortion? You wouldn't be readingthis post right now.
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Originally posted by neojazex
So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...


Now i said murder. And what the definition of murder is, can yet be debated.
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So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...


Now i said murder. And what the definition of murder is, can yet be debated.
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Originally posted by John
Originally posted by neojazex
So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...


Now i said murder. And what the definition of murder is, can yet be debated.


No... it can't really be debated:

Murder
Main Entry: 1mur·der
Pronunciation: 'm&r-d&r
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Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal
1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2 a : something very difficult or dangerous b : something outrageous or blameworthy
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Originally posted by neojazex
So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...


Now i said murder. And what the definition of murder is, can yet be debated.


No... it can't really be debated:

Murder
Main Entry: 1mur·der
Pronunciation: 'm&r-d&r
Function: noun
Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal
1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2 a : something very difficult or dangerous b : something outrageous or blameworthy
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Originally posted by John
Originally posted by neojazex
So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...


Now i said murder. And what the definition of murder is, can yet be debated.


like weather abortion is murder, even though [legally] the baby never truely was born?

hence why this topic exists in the first place.
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So if someone tried to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them you wouldn't?

Thats very dumb...


Now i said murder. And what the definition of murder is, can yet be debated.


like weather abortion is murder, even though [legally] the baby never truely was born?

hence why this topic exists in the first place.
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