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I honestly could not tell if this was a troll review or not. Outside of the horrible layout (which you mentioned, so I can't fault you for this), it's one giant wall of text, so even if you had a layout that fit with the review itself, it would still be hard to read. A lot of your lines don't apply to this game at all -- I.E mentioning an HD filter in a game on the Super Nintendo? Did you play it on the Retron 5 or something? You use abbreviations when you don't need to, such as "srsly" or "wanna" and Akklaim being A<
First of all, no, that's not how anime was invented. I hope this is a facetious statement, as it isn't even relevant to the review and completely incorrect.  

"Star Wars The Olde Republic has the most voice acting any game has ever had, you should try it it's nice, be warned it's an EA game so it has lag/bugs/"DLC" (that content that was removed from the game to be sold back to you little by little as time passes which always adds up to a $60 value, at least it doesn't add up to $100 like mobile games always do)."

Again with referencing games released long after this. It does not have the most voice acting of any game ever, there is no way to tell that unless you count each and every line of dialogue across hundreds upon hundreds of games that have voice acting. 
DLC is not always content removed from the game. In some cases, yes, but not 100% of the time, and EA is not the only company that employs the usage of DLC. And of course the game will have lag, and bugs, it's an MMO, what MMO game doesn't? It's natural, especially in a world as large as TOR's. But I digress. 

You keep mentioning and comparing the game to Super Metroid. . . why? This was released in May of 1993. Super Metroid was released in March of 1994. . . see the huge difference? Not to mention the fact that Metroid was heavily inspired by the Alien films anyhow. 

This is just not a very good review, at all. You cannot form an objective opinion on playing a game for 20 minutes (your own words), especially one that takes much, much longer to complete. 

Reviews should be well put together, with clear distinctions between each category, and not riddled with personal opinions / feelings on the game, and nonsensical comparisons to games released much later.
I honestly could not tell if this was a troll review or not. Outside of the horrible layout (which you mentioned, so I can't fault you for this), it's one giant wall of text, so even if you had a layout that fit with the review itself, it would still be hard to read. A lot of your lines don't apply to this game at all -- I.E mentioning an HD filter in a game on the Super Nintendo? Did you play it on the Retron 5 or something? You use abbreviations when you don't need to, such as "srsly" or "wanna" and Akklaim being A<
First of all, no, that's not how anime was invented. I hope this is a facetious statement, as it isn't even relevant to the review and completely incorrect.  

"Star Wars The Olde Republic has the most voice acting any game has ever had, you should try it it's nice, be warned it's an EA game so it has lag/bugs/"DLC" (that content that was removed from the game to be sold back to you little by little as time passes which always adds up to a $60 value, at least it doesn't add up to $100 like mobile games always do)."

Again with referencing games released long after this. It does not have the most voice acting of any game ever, there is no way to tell that unless you count each and every line of dialogue across hundreds upon hundreds of games that have voice acting. 
DLC is not always content removed from the game. In some cases, yes, but not 100% of the time, and EA is not the only company that employs the usage of DLC. And of course the game will have lag, and bugs, it's an MMO, what MMO game doesn't? It's natural, especially in a world as large as TOR's. But I digress. 

You keep mentioning and comparing the game to Super Metroid. . . why? This was released in May of 1993. Super Metroid was released in March of 1994. . . see the huge difference? Not to mention the fact that Metroid was heavily inspired by the Alien films anyhow. 

This is just not a very good review, at all. You cannot form an objective opinion on playing a game for 20 minutes (your own words), especially one that takes much, much longer to complete. 

Reviews should be well put together, with clear distinctions between each category, and not riddled with personal opinions / feelings on the game, and nonsensical comparisons to games released much later.
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ARedLetterDay : Not my fault the layout wouldn't fix itself after I edited, you shouldn't be trolling about it in the first place when I put up a huge disclaimer at the very top about how I fixed it but it wouldn't apply after the edit. The review was recommended to be 2000 words, you can find any excuse to complain all you want but I'm not gonna add subcategories to my categories just to suit your preference, if you can't read "a giant wall of text" then the problem is you, that's like saying you prefer to eat 10 pieces of popcorn at a movie one minute apart rather than eating 10 pieces at once (handful) like every movie goer does. Here's a review that a Trusted member liked https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=78132 good luck trolling that one after reading this reply. In the end it was all relevant, if I were to spend several paragraphs talking about HD filters then you could make a valid complaint. I'm allowed to use a little bit of abbreviation and personality to my reviews to set them apart from others, you act like the entire review was written like "omf dis gam rly bad dnt ply plz is no more new lol". I see you're trying to justify whatever you can to feed your debate of whether I'm allowed to have liberty or not, if A<
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2012/01/09/star-wars-the-old-republic-wins-most-voice-acting-ever-guinness-world-record.htm You were saying? DLC is generally content that was removed and later sold, not new content that was added, but I don't remember writing "100% of DLC is removed and sold back." Show me where I said that phrase. I don't remember saying "EA is the only company that employs the usage of DLC" either, show me where I said that then you'll have a valid debate. I didn't say games aren't allowed to have lag or bugs, I was noting how EA is notorious for it because of the severity. One year is barely a difference not a "huge" one, look at Final Fantasy X, it was a decade ahead of it's time, there were games that came out 10 years later that were very low quality compared to FFX. Regardless even if it Super Metroid is a tiny bit newer It's considered by many to be the best SNES game, and it's only 1 year apart.

If you don't like the review why did you spend so much time complaining about it? It's the same situation on YouTube where people go onto all of Pewdiepie's videos saying "I hate Pewdiepie he's lame." If somebody doesn't like something they avoid it, they don't write up an essay on how it makes them feel funny. I said maybe 20 minutes, it was most likely longer, I didn't say 20 minutes and zero seconds. Read Game Informer, they have a Replay Value scale from Low to High where Low says and I quote: "You'll quit playing before you finish the game." end quote. I didn't finish the game therefore it has a Low replay value. I forced myself to finish Alien vs Predator because it was somewhat entertaining. If a game is bad I'm not going to say it's good, if a game is good I'm not going to say it's bad. The fact that I couldn't finish this game is a precedent for other people reading this review, who wants to play a poorly reviewed game? "You knock on a game released a good decade or so after this (which, by the way, objectively is a good game), which has no bearing on the review."?http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Last I checked this isn't such a great game, is it? Don't try to debate with "You are incorrect, the critics all gave it perfect scores." This is an EA game, EA only let people rate Dungeon Keeper for the iOS if they gave it a 5 https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20140209/07573126156/ea-you-can-only-rate-our-dungeon-keeper-app-if-you-give-it-perfect-rating.shtml . critics are also known to give high scores to games because they were bribed, look it up.

If you look at my review you'll see that I have a pros and cons list at the bottom and the entire review goes through each of those pros and cons in chronological order, so your argument is invalid. I had to make it 2000 words, so of course I'm gonna add a little variety to it rather than bore the reader by talking 100% about the game 100% of the time, I'm allowed to go outside of the box and make something different from all the other reviews. The only comparison to a game released later was voice acting, something the SNES was actually capable of, I didn't say "Alien 3 sucks because it doesn't have 1080p."
ARedLetterDay : Not my fault the layout wouldn't fix itself after I edited, you shouldn't be trolling about it in the first place when I put up a huge disclaimer at the very top about how I fixed it but it wouldn't apply after the edit. The review was recommended to be 2000 words, you can find any excuse to complain all you want but I'm not gonna add subcategories to my categories just to suit your preference, if you can't read "a giant wall of text" then the problem is you, that's like saying you prefer to eat 10 pieces of popcorn at a movie one minute apart rather than eating 10 pieces at once (handful) like every movie goer does. Here's a review that a Trusted member liked https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=78132 good luck trolling that one after reading this reply. In the end it was all relevant, if I were to spend several paragraphs talking about HD filters then you could make a valid complaint. I'm allowed to use a little bit of abbreviation and personality to my reviews to set them apart from others, you act like the entire review was written like "omf dis gam rly bad dnt ply plz is no more new lol". I see you're trying to justify whatever you can to feed your debate of whether I'm allowed to have liberty or not, if A<
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2012/01/09/star-wars-the-old-republic-wins-most-voice-acting-ever-guinness-world-record.htm You were saying? DLC is generally content that was removed and later sold, not new content that was added, but I don't remember writing "100% of DLC is removed and sold back." Show me where I said that phrase. I don't remember saying "EA is the only company that employs the usage of DLC" either, show me where I said that then you'll have a valid debate. I didn't say games aren't allowed to have lag or bugs, I was noting how EA is notorious for it because of the severity. One year is barely a difference not a "huge" one, look at Final Fantasy X, it was a decade ahead of it's time, there were games that came out 10 years later that were very low quality compared to FFX. Regardless even if it Super Metroid is a tiny bit newer It's considered by many to be the best SNES game, and it's only 1 year apart.

If you don't like the review why did you spend so much time complaining about it? It's the same situation on YouTube where people go onto all of Pewdiepie's videos saying "I hate Pewdiepie he's lame." If somebody doesn't like something they avoid it, they don't write up an essay on how it makes them feel funny. I said maybe 20 minutes, it was most likely longer, I didn't say 20 minutes and zero seconds. Read Game Informer, they have a Replay Value scale from Low to High where Low says and I quote: "You'll quit playing before you finish the game." end quote. I didn't finish the game therefore it has a Low replay value. I forced myself to finish Alien vs Predator because it was somewhat entertaining. If a game is bad I'm not going to say it's good, if a game is good I'm not going to say it's bad. The fact that I couldn't finish this game is a precedent for other people reading this review, who wants to play a poorly reviewed game? "You knock on a game released a good decade or so after this (which, by the way, objectively is a good game), which has no bearing on the review."?http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Last I checked this isn't such a great game, is it? Don't try to debate with "You are incorrect, the critics all gave it perfect scores." This is an EA game, EA only let people rate Dungeon Keeper for the iOS if they gave it a 5 https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20140209/07573126156/ea-you-can-only-rate-our-dungeon-keeper-app-if-you-give-it-perfect-rating.shtml . critics are also known to give high scores to games because they were bribed, look it up.

If you look at my review you'll see that I have a pros and cons list at the bottom and the entire review goes through each of those pros and cons in chronological order, so your argument is invalid. I had to make it 2000 words, so of course I'm gonna add a little variety to it rather than bore the reader by talking 100% about the game 100% of the time, I'm allowed to go outside of the box and make something different from all the other reviews. The only comparison to a game released later was voice acting, something the SNES was actually capable of, I didn't say "Alien 3 sucks because it doesn't have 1080p."
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I don't think you guys need to get defensive and banter.

Whetsit Tuya, I don't think RedLetterDay intended to offend. There are many users here who read through reviews (good or not), and then try to offer their advice on how to make the next review even better.  We're about growth and support here, not sarcasm and tearing each other down.  That being said, I recognize that he could have done it in a more tasteful manner.  It never, however, helps to bicker back and and thus push the situation past something it was never meant to be.

As for reading your review, people can also hit reply and then scroll down to easily read the review. I personally prefer this method to highlighting. Second of all, if you nicely ask a global mod, (or I believe, the local mods for this forum), they can actually remove the layout for you.

Now, as for critiquing the review:
1.  It actually IS normally frowned upon to write a review after only playing the game for a short amount of time. I've done it in the past, but it's a little unfair to judge a game before completing it.... especially if it's a long game. That being said, you did a great job of providing detail on why you didn't like it

2.  The review is EXCEPTIONALLY hard to read as one big wall of text with odd grammar.  Although you're more than welcome to write reviews however you want and add your own little flare, you're more likely to get responses if you make your reviews easy on the eyes of the reader.  This goes for any posts of substantial length, actually.  I personally like all the little details you gave, but it was hard to enjoy them or read through them smoothly.
I don't think you guys need to get defensive and banter.

Whetsit Tuya, I don't think RedLetterDay intended to offend. There are many users here who read through reviews (good or not), and then try to offer their advice on how to make the next review even better.  We're about growth and support here, not sarcasm and tearing each other down.  That being said, I recognize that he could have done it in a more tasteful manner.  It never, however, helps to bicker back and and thus push the situation past something it was never meant to be.

As for reading your review, people can also hit reply and then scroll down to easily read the review. I personally prefer this method to highlighting. Second of all, if you nicely ask a global mod, (or I believe, the local mods for this forum), they can actually remove the layout for you.

Now, as for critiquing the review:
1.  It actually IS normally frowned upon to write a review after only playing the game for a short amount of time. I've done it in the past, but it's a little unfair to judge a game before completing it.... especially if it's a long game. That being said, you did a great job of providing detail on why you didn't like it

2.  The review is EXCEPTIONALLY hard to read as one big wall of text with odd grammar.  Although you're more than welcome to write reviews however you want and add your own little flare, you're more likely to get responses if you make your reviews easy on the eyes of the reader.  This goes for any posts of substantial length, actually.  I personally like all the little details you gave, but it was hard to enjoy them or read through them smoothly.
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Oh, also, it's nice just to HAVE a review for this game, since it was lacking one. Thank you for taking the time to write one up for the game.  
Oh, also, it's nice just to HAVE a review for this game, since it was lacking one. Thank you for taking the time to write one up for the game.  
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Can you remove the layout in the first post?

Problem solved.

Never played this, did play the ps3 alien v predator game though, I quite liked that. It wasnt a 2d arcade though. And you played as alien. Or predator.
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Never played this, did play the ps3 alien v predator game though, I quite liked that. It wasnt a 2d arcade though. And you played as alien. Or predator.
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Singelli : Is was blatantly offensive, 99% of my replies were positive and helpful, I've only had one troll reply which I justified with maturity. If someone trolls me I ignore it, when slander is involved (it usually is) then I have to defend myself.

I mentioned that it had a low replay value, which is a real thing in review magazines/sites, it makes sense that if a reviewer couldn't bear finishing a game then the consumer wouldn't want to make the same mistake.

If you say it's hard to read I appreciate your advice, I try to be unique, I write pros/cons then discuss each of them in chronological order. I avoid mixing all 3 of my categories together, I start with the opening which is generally my past experience with the game, then in the middle I have the pros/cons with context, then at the end, the closing. I'll definitely be making it more categorized since you suggested it. My first review was Mega Man X, it was messy because I never thought a single person would read it, I was expecting a mod to look at it and say "All that matters is that it has 2000 words. APPROVED." But I got a bunch of replies from people talking about how it needs to be organized. My second review is Alien vs Predator, I put that one into categories but it wasn't as neat as this one, which is my third review. My fourth will be fully organized and simple to read, I'm new to Vizzed and started doing the reviews recently. Eirinn is a friend and I liked his review of Clock Tower a lot, it's a precedent. I've read like 2 reviews on here, his and someone else's it was short and hilarious?https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=78369&ppp=100&page=0#1055996
Singelli : Is was blatantly offensive, 99% of my replies were positive and helpful, I've only had one troll reply which I justified with maturity. If someone trolls me I ignore it, when slander is involved (it usually is) then I have to defend myself.

I mentioned that it had a low replay value, which is a real thing in review magazines/sites, it makes sense that if a reviewer couldn't bear finishing a game then the consumer wouldn't want to make the same mistake.

If you say it's hard to read I appreciate your advice, I try to be unique, I write pros/cons then discuss each of them in chronological order. I avoid mixing all 3 of my categories together, I start with the opening which is generally my past experience with the game, then in the middle I have the pros/cons with context, then at the end, the closing. I'll definitely be making it more categorized since you suggested it. My first review was Mega Man X, it was messy because I never thought a single person would read it, I was expecting a mod to look at it and say "All that matters is that it has 2000 words. APPROVED." But I got a bunch of replies from people talking about how it needs to be organized. My second review is Alien vs Predator, I put that one into categories but it wasn't as neat as this one, which is my third review. My fourth will be fully organized and simple to read, I'm new to Vizzed and started doing the reviews recently. Eirinn is a friend and I liked his review of Clock Tower a lot, it's a precedent. I've read like 2 reviews on here, his and someone else's it was short and hilarious?https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=78369&ppp=100&page=0#1055996
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Whetsit Tuya : hehe.. *coughs coughs * Eirinn is a dude. Might want to change your post. XD

But he was one of the first phenomenal reviewers I met here, and he's certainly one of the kindest people you can get advice from.  I highly advise you take to heart anything he says.
Whetsit Tuya : hehe.. *coughs coughs * Eirinn is a dude. Might want to change your post. XD

But he was one of the first phenomenal reviewers I met here, and he's certainly one of the kindest people you can get advice from.  I highly advise you take to heart anything he says.
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I apologize if my post appeared to be trolling, but that wasn't the case. Trolling implies I was picking apart meaningless stuff just to get a rise out of you. But I feel I had valid complaints and constructive criticisms for your review. 

As for the layout deal, I mentioned that you weren't at fault for it, so please don't get upset at my mentioning of it. 

" The review was recommended to be 2000 words, you can find any excuse to complain all you want but I'm not gonna add subcategories to my categories just to suit your preference,"

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A professional review has clear and concise categories so that it is easy to tell what you give each section. You do not have to explicitly state each category, but at least mention that you're going to talk about the story, then graphics, then gameplay, then sound and give each a score, tallying your score at the end of the review for a non-biased objective rating of the game. You had a nice idea with the Pros / Cons system but I feel it was implemented poorly since the cons outweighed the pros -- that's not to say that you should make up a bunch of pros to balance it out, but that you should have combined some of the cons such as mentioning all the graphics in one, neat bullet point:

" - Ugly graphics that do not do their job at portraying the player character or the enemies, with odd animations and odd pallets." 

Yes, you want to make the review thorough, and yes, I realize it might have been recommended to be 2000 words, but you should never sacrifice quality for quantity. That's just a thing that you shouldn't do.

" "You knock on a game released a good decade or so after this (which, by the way, objectively is a good game), which has no bearing on the review."?http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Last I checked this isn't such a great game, is it? Don't try to debate with "You are incorrect, the critics all gave it perfect scores." "

I wasn't talking about The Old Republic. That came after the statement. I was talking about Resident Evil: Outbreak. Metacritic is not a good site to back up your stance on a game, since it's based on an average of consumer reviews and is often found to be completely false anyhow. A good example is Nier, which has a 67 rating for critics, compared to user reviews which are 8.4. The game is excellent, it has great writing, amazing music, nice, crisp, defined graphics and a well-done story. Yet critics knocked the game for repetitive gameplay (which, admittedly it does have at points, but more often than not the repetitiveness comes from the sidequests and grinding for materials, which is optional). 

Resident Evil: Outbreak was not a very good Resident Evil game, but it was a great game on it's own. The controls were nice and tight, the voice acting was miles better than the first three RE games, the graphics were beautiful and you can tell what things are supposed to be, and it was difficult without being difficult because of poor camera angles or bad controls. 

"If you don't like the review why did you spend so much time complaining about it?"

This doesn't make any sense, considering you spent so much time complaining about Alien3 when you clearly didn't like the game. I write for a living, and I happen to enjoy giving people constructive criticism on their writing. I apologize if my post came off as douchey and arrogant, that wasn't my intention, but I'm allowed to criticize your review and offer ways to improve them as much as the next person on this site, and as much as you are allowed to write a review on a game you don't like. 

My main complaint with your review is that you did not remain objective. This comes through in your constant berating of the game because you had a hard time with it. I have plenty games I do not like, but I acknowledge that they are good games, with many redeeming qualities about them. You mention one or two good things about the game, which is fine, I just wish you had done more. 

That's all. Again, I apologize for making it seem like I was unfairly picking apart your review, but I wasn't trolling. Simply offering some criticisms. With more work in the future, I'm sure you'll make an excellent reviewer. 




 
I apologize if my post appeared to be trolling, but that wasn't the case. Trolling implies I was picking apart meaningless stuff just to get a rise out of you. But I feel I had valid complaints and constructive criticisms for your review. 

As for the layout deal, I mentioned that you weren't at fault for it, so please don't get upset at my mentioning of it. 

" The review was recommended to be 2000 words, you can find any excuse to complain all you want but I'm not gonna add subcategories to my categories just to suit your preference,"

"-Review should be professional
- DO NOT: Swear, Spam, Flame,
Advertise, Post Porn or Insult"

A professional review has clear and concise categories so that it is easy to tell what you give each section. You do not have to explicitly state each category, but at least mention that you're going to talk about the story, then graphics, then gameplay, then sound and give each a score, tallying your score at the end of the review for a non-biased objective rating of the game. You had a nice idea with the Pros / Cons system but I feel it was implemented poorly since the cons outweighed the pros -- that's not to say that you should make up a bunch of pros to balance it out, but that you should have combined some of the cons such as mentioning all the graphics in one, neat bullet point:

" - Ugly graphics that do not do their job at portraying the player character or the enemies, with odd animations and odd pallets." 

Yes, you want to make the review thorough, and yes, I realize it might have been recommended to be 2000 words, but you should never sacrifice quality for quantity. That's just a thing that you shouldn't do.

" "You knock on a game released a good decade or so after this (which, by the way, objectively is a good game), which has no bearing on the review."?http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Last I checked this isn't such a great game, is it? Don't try to debate with "You are incorrect, the critics all gave it perfect scores." "

I wasn't talking about The Old Republic. That came after the statement. I was talking about Resident Evil: Outbreak. Metacritic is not a good site to back up your stance on a game, since it's based on an average of consumer reviews and is often found to be completely false anyhow. A good example is Nier, which has a 67 rating for critics, compared to user reviews which are 8.4. The game is excellent, it has great writing, amazing music, nice, crisp, defined graphics and a well-done story. Yet critics knocked the game for repetitive gameplay (which, admittedly it does have at points, but more often than not the repetitiveness comes from the sidequests and grinding for materials, which is optional). 

Resident Evil: Outbreak was not a very good Resident Evil game, but it was a great game on it's own. The controls were nice and tight, the voice acting was miles better than the first three RE games, the graphics were beautiful and you can tell what things are supposed to be, and it was difficult without being difficult because of poor camera angles or bad controls. 

"If you don't like the review why did you spend so much time complaining about it?"

This doesn't make any sense, considering you spent so much time complaining about Alien3 when you clearly didn't like the game. I write for a living, and I happen to enjoy giving people constructive criticism on their writing. I apologize if my post came off as douchey and arrogant, that wasn't my intention, but I'm allowed to criticize your review and offer ways to improve them as much as the next person on this site, and as much as you are allowed to write a review on a game you don't like. 

My main complaint with your review is that you did not remain objective. This comes through in your constant berating of the game because you had a hard time with it. I have plenty games I do not like, but I acknowledge that they are good games, with many redeeming qualities about them. You mention one or two good things about the game, which is fine, I just wish you had done more. 

That's all. Again, I apologize for making it seem like I was unfairly picking apart your review, but I wasn't trolling. Simply offering some criticisms. With more work in the future, I'm sure you'll make an excellent reviewer. 




 
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Alien 3 for the SNES is indeed, crap. Nothing really good to say about it.

The review though, not too bad. I would recommend separating the categories instead of a giant paragraph. But do keep it up. Don't stop now
Alien 3 for the SNES is indeed, crap. Nothing really good to say about it.

The review though, not too bad. I would recommend separating the categories instead of a giant paragraph. But do keep it up. Don't stop now
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