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I am basically writing this thread because it's late, and I have gotten fed up with that the people who let nostalgia make decisions for them. I am sure all of you reading this thread have seen someone who likes a bad game, or refuses to like new games, all because of their nostalgic memories as a child. I wrote this thread after reminding myself about a conversation I had with a fellow Zelda "fan" when I asked him if he liked Wind Waker. He said:

"I don't play new Zelda games. Nothing will ever be as good as Ocarina of Time, so there is almost no point."

This, I swear to god, was part of an actual conversation, and you can bet I left soon after. I just want to try to enlighten people who have nostalgia as their number one priority when it comes to games you play or associate with. Take Pokémon for an example: I have played almost every Generation of the Pokémon games, (Gen III is the only exception) and I enjoyed every minute of every game I played. Then, I meet some person who played the original games as a kid, tries the newer games, and refuses to like them because they aren't Gen I or II. Simply because of Nostalgic memories, people are unable to like the newer Pokémon games, even though they have improved upon the original concept so much, and have so much more to offer than was possible in the first couple of Generations. I hear people complain about the newer Gen Pokémon being ugly, or uncreative. Personally, that is completely fine, but when people don't acknowledge that the earlier Gen's roster's having some crap in them, or defend the uncreative or useless Pokémon in question because it is part of the earlier games, then we have a problem.

Gen I:
          
Gen II:
          
Gen III:
          
Gen IV:
          

Every Generation has its ups and downs, but I get that it is part of personal preference. Believe me, I stopped the list above because I couldn't find a single Gen V Pokémon I truly don't like. I just want people to try to stay on the light side of Nostalgia, where you relive the memories of your past, and share with people your experiences as a kid, instead of potentially making enemies or such.

Now, by no means did I write this to offend people. Everyone has a free right to their own opinion, and I am not going to force them to think differently. I just wanted to share my thoughts, and see if people are willing to be more accepting of ideas.
I am basically writing this thread because it's late, and I have gotten fed up with that the people who let nostalgia make decisions for them. I am sure all of you reading this thread have seen someone who likes a bad game, or refuses to like new games, all because of their nostalgic memories as a child. I wrote this thread after reminding myself about a conversation I had with a fellow Zelda "fan" when I asked him if he liked Wind Waker. He said:

"I don't play new Zelda games. Nothing will ever be as good as Ocarina of Time, so there is almost no point."

This, I swear to god, was part of an actual conversation, and you can bet I left soon after. I just want to try to enlighten people who have nostalgia as their number one priority when it comes to games you play or associate with. Take Pokémon for an example: I have played almost every Generation of the Pokémon games, (Gen III is the only exception) and I enjoyed every minute of every game I played. Then, I meet some person who played the original games as a kid, tries the newer games, and refuses to like them because they aren't Gen I or II. Simply because of Nostalgic memories, people are unable to like the newer Pokémon games, even though they have improved upon the original concept so much, and have so much more to offer than was possible in the first couple of Generations. I hear people complain about the newer Gen Pokémon being ugly, or uncreative. Personally, that is completely fine, but when people don't acknowledge that the earlier Gen's roster's having some crap in them, or defend the uncreative or useless Pokémon in question because it is part of the earlier games, then we have a problem.

Gen I:
          
Gen II:
          
Gen III:
          
Gen IV:
          

Every Generation has its ups and downs, but I get that it is part of personal preference. Believe me, I stopped the list above because I couldn't find a single Gen V Pokémon I truly don't like. I just want people to try to stay on the light side of Nostalgia, where you relive the memories of your past, and share with people your experiences as a kid, instead of potentially making enemies or such.

Now, by no means did I write this to offend people. Everyone has a free right to their own opinion, and I am not going to force them to think differently. I just wanted to share my thoughts, and see if people are willing to be more accepting of ideas.
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Nostalgia is OK if you don't let it dictate all of your decisions and/or tastes. It's good to be fond of the past, but don't let it turn you into someone who hates everything "modern" (even though that might be your own decision).
Nostalgia is OK if you don't let it dictate all of your decisions and/or tastes. It's good to be fond of the past, but don't let it turn you into someone who hates everything "modern" (even though that might be your own decision).
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I think nostalgia can be really hit and miss.  Games predating the N64 PS1 era tend to hold up pretty well.  Once you get into the early days of 3d games though most are best left to memories.  I played Goldeneye a few weeks ago and was surprised as to how poorly it had aged.  
The idea that nothing new is good is just an artifact from getting old.  You see people say the same things about music, tv, books, and even kids.  Or in some cases it is just hipsters being ironic only liking games that were made before they were born.
If someone refuses to move into the future it is best just to leave them in the past.
I think nostalgia can be really hit and miss.  Games predating the N64 PS1 era tend to hold up pretty well.  Once you get into the early days of 3d games though most are best left to memories.  I played Goldeneye a few weeks ago and was surprised as to how poorly it had aged.  
The idea that nothing new is good is just an artifact from getting old.  You see people say the same things about music, tv, books, and even kids.  Or in some cases it is just hipsters being ironic only liking games that were made before they were born.
If someone refuses to move into the future it is best just to leave them in the past.
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runtus maximus:
It doesn't really matter to me if a game has truly "aged well." In fact, my favorite game of all time an N64 game, which is The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. I just care if a game is truly good, as in well developed, in depth, and is still fun to play, and I don't let its age or the time I played it determine that for me. I don't look at a time period and call it better than another, because of the same reason I just stated.
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It doesn't really matter to me if a game has truly "aged well." In fact, my favorite game of all time an N64 game, which is The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. I just care if a game is truly good, as in well developed, in depth, and is still fun to play, and I don't let its age or the time I played it determine that for me. I don't look at a time period and call it better than another, because of the same reason I just stated.
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Nostalgia can turn any bad or mediocre game to one of the better games you've ever played. It can affect a biased way you look at any game, and you can make it look like a god send.
Nostalgia can turn any bad or mediocre game to one of the better games you've ever played. It can affect a biased way you look at any game, and you can make it look like a god send.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with people sticking close to their roots because of nostalgia... In the end, playing games is about being entertained. If they know what entertains them, then good on them.  They're happy, and they're not harming anyone.  Some people just know what they want and when they've found it, why keep looking? 
I don't think there's anything wrong with people sticking close to their roots because of nostalgia... In the end, playing games is about being entertained. If they know what entertains them, then good on them.  They're happy, and they're not harming anyone.  Some people just know what they want and when they've found it, why keep looking? 
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Whoa there. Back up a second. Are you saying that the new Pokemon games are better than the old ones? Because that is absolutely, positively, 100% false. There is nothing better than gen 1-3 of Pokemon and I doubt there ever will be. Gen 4 was ok, gen 5 was ehh, and gen 6 sucked. I am not saying this because of "nostalgia". I am saying this because the new games aren't even as close to as good as the old ones. Gen 6 is barely even Pokemon anymore. I mean fairy types? Really? And mega evolutions are pretty stupid. And the graphics don't even feel like a Pokemon game anymore. There is a reason that people like the old games better than the new ones, and it is not because they are "attached" to the old ones. It is simply because the old ones are better.
Whoa there. Back up a second. Are you saying that the new Pokemon games are better than the old ones? Because that is absolutely, positively, 100% false. There is nothing better than gen 1-3 of Pokemon and I doubt there ever will be. Gen 4 was ok, gen 5 was ehh, and gen 6 sucked. I am not saying this because of "nostalgia". I am saying this because the new games aren't even as close to as good as the old ones. Gen 6 is barely even Pokemon anymore. I mean fairy types? Really? And mega evolutions are pretty stupid. And the graphics don't even feel like a Pokemon game anymore. There is a reason that people like the old games better than the new ones, and it is not because they are "attached" to the old ones. It is simply because the old ones are better.
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tgags123:
As I stated in this thread, some part of it is personal opinion, but that does not give you the go to turn away from the main point of this thread to make a whole comment to trash one single line I said. It would be okay disagreeing with my opinion, but not when it has almost nothing to do with the point of this thread, and when you use absolutes that mean you think your opinion is complete fact, and cannot be argued. I would thoroughly appreciate if you made a contribution to this thread that is on topic, and doesn't make me want to hate you will all of my heart.

Good day.

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Another thing I have to address, that I completely forgot about writing the earlier portion, is that you are not only off topic, you are literally destroying the point of this thread. All I was asking is for people to be more accepting of ideas, and here you are, not only dissing my opinion, but refusing to like any aspects of the newer Pokémon games, for whatever reason. I wrote this thread not to offend people, and you are getting offended by something so astronomically stupid, you completely ignored the message I was trying to convey.
tgags123:
As I stated in this thread, some part of it is personal opinion, but that does not give you the go to turn away from the main point of this thread to make a whole comment to trash one single line I said. It would be okay disagreeing with my opinion, but not when it has almost nothing to do with the point of this thread, and when you use absolutes that mean you think your opinion is complete fact, and cannot be argued. I would thoroughly appreciate if you made a contribution to this thread that is on topic, and doesn't make me want to hate you will all of my heart.

Good day.

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Another thing I have to address, that I completely forgot about writing the earlier portion, is that you are not only off topic, you are literally destroying the point of this thread. All I was asking is for people to be more accepting of ideas, and here you are, not only dissing my opinion, but refusing to like any aspects of the newer Pokémon games, for whatever reason. I wrote this thread not to offend people, and you are getting offended by something so astronomically stupid, you completely ignored the message I was trying to convey.
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