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06-01-14 02:15 PM
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So I'm going to start off with a story here. My dad was on his Twitter and he noticed one of his friends from art school posted: "I am so tired of being around white people all the time." and he wanted to know what was going on. He legitimately wanted to know if she was having any sort of problems. When he tried to talk to her and make sure that he wasn't part of the white people she was tired of, she started to go off about how he was being racist and passive aggressive. I can assure you my father is not racist, as he had a kid with a half Japanese woman (me) and is now married to a half Mexican woman. He started to try to talk things out, but was told that he could never understand what black people go through. Now this is probably true, because he is not black and he could not know how black people feel. This is actually a little ironic to me though. Racism is where you treat a certain race in a certain way because of their race, is it not? So is saying, "I am so tired of white being around white people," racist? That would mean so. Without realizing it, she became what she hated. A racist person. I would like some opinions on "reverse racism" as it is called (but to me it is straight up racism, white people don't need a special name for racism against them) from you guys. Do you think it is valid to say that this was racist? Thanks for the opinions. Note: This is not in any way an attack on black people or defending white people. White people have their faults and sometimes are what this lady said, and black people are not always "reverse racist." Also, I don't want to be called racist because I am a quarter Japanese with a Mexican step-mom, and I have been friends with people of almost every race. Note: This is not in any way an attack on black people or defending white people. White people have their faults and sometimes are what this lady said, and black people are not always "reverse racist." Also, I don't want to be called racist because I am a quarter Japanese with a Mexican step-mom, and I have been friends with people of almost every race. |
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06-01-14 06:49 PM
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Sure, racism exists with any race. It doesn't just apply to white folks. I would say in this case it was racism. This is the unfortunate trend in the minority communities. Its not that I don't believe in history. Its just the amount of bitterness over history that isn't constructive. At some point I think people like that just need to stop being angry. Maybe it will make life easier. |
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There is no such thing as reverse racism. It's all racism. If you automatically discredit a group of people because of their skin color, it's a racist comment. That's the end of it. Yes, what she said was belligerent, racist, and ignorant. I'm surprised she didn't get in trouble with all the attention paid to social media. People get fired for saying less. Yes, what she said was belligerent, racist, and ignorant. I'm surprised she didn't get in trouble with all the attention paid to social media. People get fired for saying less. |
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I'm of the belief that anyone can be racist to anyone, even to one's own race, and I do think it was a racist comment your dad's friend made on twitter. However, I did want to let you know a few things about what I picked up on your reasoning. You claim one cannot be racist because they have friends with other races, or happen to be part of an ethnic group. That's... not true at all. You can be racist, yet still be friends with or are part of an ethnic group. Usually, it's a case of hypocrisy. I also want to bring up the fact that while the dictionary of today defines racism as a prejudice and/or discrimination of a person based on race, there are others today who believe that for one to be racist, they must have the power to oppress someone. Under that line of thinking, many believe that it is impossible to be racist to white/Caucasian people because they have never been oppressed and have a longer history of oppression against others (also why whites aren't considered minorities). I don't necessarily agree with that, but I also don't entirely dismiss it. I can see where they come from when saying that, but believe oppress and racism are not linked. In other words, I can agree that you cannot really oppress white people, but disagree with being unable to be racist to them. A fun note,many of those with the line of thinking of "impossible to be racist to white people," also believe it is impossible to be sexist to men. Food for thought! However, I did want to let you know a few things about what I picked up on your reasoning. You claim one cannot be racist because they have friends with other races, or happen to be part of an ethnic group. That's... not true at all. You can be racist, yet still be friends with or are part of an ethnic group. Usually, it's a case of hypocrisy. I also want to bring up the fact that while the dictionary of today defines racism as a prejudice and/or discrimination of a person based on race, there are others today who believe that for one to be racist, they must have the power to oppress someone. Under that line of thinking, many believe that it is impossible to be racist to white/Caucasian people because they have never been oppressed and have a longer history of oppression against others (also why whites aren't considered minorities). I don't necessarily agree with that, but I also don't entirely dismiss it. I can see where they come from when saying that, but believe oppress and racism are not linked. In other words, I can agree that you cannot really oppress white people, but disagree with being unable to be racist to them. A fun note,many of those with the line of thinking of "impossible to be racist to white people," also believe it is impossible to be sexist to men. Food for thought! |
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ruesen : Sorry for not responding, I have had a very busy week. It is true that just because you're friends with somebody of another race it doesn't mean that you're not racist. I meant that I was friends with these people because I treated them the way you're are supposed to treat people, rather than the way a racist person would. I guess that's not always true because I guess I can't say all people who are racist would express their feelings. Trust me, I'm not a racist person. I feel like I have said the word racist enough for ten lifetimes at this point. |
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ShadowLink12 : Hmm...I'm not sure but what I will say is My grandmother is Black(My Mother was adopted and Sometimes I get sick of hanging out with them...Not because they are black because of how they act and speak and such..so I could say I'm tired of hanging out with black people...Not meaning black people in general but meaning the people I'm hanging out with..and I've got to admit sometimes us white folk have a snippy preppy..kinda I'm better attitude..not all the time and not all of us but... And my personal opinion is when you are racist against our own race..in a sense its okay...Thats that why can Black people call each other the N word and its okay but if a white person says it is racist... I just think people have a thicker skin when someone their own race insults their race because it feels like its a joke...because why would someone talk bad about their own race? but when someone else from a different race says it it feels like an attack... I don't think I answered your question...Sorry bout that... |
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I live by the saying "Haters Gonna Hate" If theirs people that hate you for some reason just put "Haters Gonna Hate" in your head and forget about them. Believe me it does If theirs people that hate you for some reason just put "Haters Gonna Hate" in your head and forget about them. Believe me it does |
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Well... it's not really "reverse" racism, because all racism is the same no matter who it is towards. I am not... extremely racist, but I wouldn't disagree that life would be easier with only one race. I make a racist joke every once in a while, going to a mostly white and Spanish school it's a pretty common thing. But even though people say things like this, you need to understand that they might not always mean it. I would say a racist joke as an example, but I believe that there are rules against that so I won't. So when I say even some of the worst racist joke thinkable, I don't necessarily mean it, it is a socially accepted thing where I live. Even though it might not be a common thing where you live, you also have to understand that history in America has really oppressed black people. Some black people (I'm not saying this because I hate black people or something, it is true) even go as far as saying that whites, not specifically American whites, owe them something because of the history of the United States and how they used to be treated. I don't really agree with this at all. Also one other thing that I can think of is what if she just doesn't see other black people throughout her day? I know by this point this is sounding extremely racist, but you have to look at it from a realistic standpoint. If she doesn't see someone she can relate to on a... biological? level then she might just be tired of not seeing other people like her. In a way, it could be like being dropped in a foreign country where they don't speak English and you have no way to communicate with people there. That was a pretty disproportional example but I think you will understand what I mean by it. [EDIT] Wow I feel like that post came across as really bluntly racist, but I think it says it well [EDIT] Wow I feel like that post came across as really bluntly racist, but I think it says it well |
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Like many said, it's just racism.
Racism is defined by hating on a person just because of something they are. Whether white, black, mexican, asian, chinese, anything, if you hate on them for no reason besides that, it's racism, not anything else. Racism is defined by hating on a person just because of something they are. Whether white, black, mexican, asian, chinese, anything, if you hate on them for no reason besides that, it's racism, not anything else. |
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That's called playing the race card and is nothing new.
What's sad is the world is so politically correct, that far from solving race relations, it has become the elephant in the room. Worse than that is it seems only white people are racist. Typically a minority making racist remarks against whites isn't treated as seriously as white's being racist. But racism goes hand in hand with ignorance, so long as people remain ignorant, they will continue to generalise. I like American history x, it highlights that both sides are victims, yet blame the other. What's sad is the world is so politically correct, that far from solving race relations, it has become the elephant in the room. Worse than that is it seems only white people are racist. Typically a minority making racist remarks against whites isn't treated as seriously as white's being racist. But racism goes hand in hand with ignorance, so long as people remain ignorant, they will continue to generalise. I like American history x, it highlights that both sides are victims, yet blame the other. |
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Reverse Racism? I thought from the title it would be about being extra nice to other races so they wouldn't think you're racist, but the way you mean it doesn't make any sense... REVERSE? As is white people are the only ones who are racist, and suddenly other races are starting to hate us? That's kind of ridiculous. Growing up white was a NIGHTMARE for me where I lived. Everybody wants to fight the cracker. Nobody talks to the gringo, nobody helps the gwai lo. I know from experience, racism against white people is VERY real, and even though I was treated like an outsider my whole life, I personally am not racist. |
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I've grown up in a suburb in Finland that has the biggest amount of different cultures in one place, so it's inevitable that there's gonna be some racism involved. What I've experienced is someone complaining about a person's behaviour that wasn't racist in any way, but it's always easier to respond to complaints as in racism. That really pisses me off, because most Finns living here receive more racist comments than they give. But all in all I think that this is a great place to live, despite the idiots from both the Finnish and foreigner sides. |
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I have an aunt who is Chinese and a cousin who is half Chinese. My best friend is Jewish, for which he would not be alive if two of his grandparents did not escape Poland in WWII. I just wanted to get that out of the way to avoid any accusations that I am racist. Now to answer your question, yes, the black person was being racist against whites. My own personal opinion is that many (not all) blacks (mostly in poor regions, aka the ghetto) are more racist to whites then whites are to them. I agree (obviously) that we had to make up to them about the whole slavery thing, but that was long ago. Nothing of that kind has ever been encouraged for many, many years. Our society has gotten so caught up in feeling sorry for the black race that some of the blacks decided it would be best to feel contempt to us about what our ancestors did. They say we are holding them back and stuff, but maybe if they let go of the hatred and agreed to work with others, they would progress faster in society. Please note that this was a generalization and by no intentions meant to specify all blacks. This was simply an observation on the general trend of the black communities attitude shifting from accepting help to becoming sorry for themselves. And yes, there is a difference between accepting help and feeling sorry for yourselves. Please note that this was a generalization and by no intentions meant to specify all blacks. This was simply an observation on the general trend of the black communities attitude shifting from accepting help to becoming sorry for themselves. And yes, there is a difference between accepting help and feeling sorry for yourselves. |
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