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Is it ethical to begin studying psychedelics currently?

 

05-10-14 01:51 AM
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With the impending legalization of cannabis and the many studies showing how beneficial some of the plants chemicals are in pain reduction and certain types of cancers, many researchers are reconsidering the possible therapeutic benefits of mushrooms, lsd, and mdma along with other entheogens. A recent example is the use of mdma (extacy/molly) to treat soldiers suffering from ptsd. I personally support studies like these since the science community hasn't touched psycedellics in decades and we still have much to learn about these substances. What are your thoughts?
With the impending legalization of cannabis and the many studies showing how beneficial some of the plants chemicals are in pain reduction and certain types of cancers, many researchers are reconsidering the possible therapeutic benefits of mushrooms, lsd, and mdma along with other entheogens. A recent example is the use of mdma (extacy/molly) to treat soldiers suffering from ptsd. I personally support studies like these since the science community hasn't touched psycedellics in decades and we still have much to learn about these substances. What are your thoughts?
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Psychedelics are no less ethical than all the other new drugs being pumped out and tested on a regular basis. In fact, since we already have some idea of their effects, we may be able to better regulate and exploit them for medicinal uses.
Psychedelics are no less ethical than all the other new drugs being pumped out and tested on a regular basis. In fact, since we already have some idea of their effects, we may be able to better regulate and exploit them for medicinal uses.
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No need to restrict research because the drug can be used as a narcotic.
No need to restrict research because the drug can be used as a narcotic.
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You could question whether most modern research is ethical. At the end of the day, its all open to interpretation. For some people weed is actually the only thing that numbs the pain, and its unfortunate that those individuals are so consistently obstructed.
Im not a fan of weed, and I do believe it has negative long term problems, iv seen enough people that have grown too dependent on it.
That being said, this is nothing new. They used to use cocaine as an anesthetic before they learned about its dangers.
Morphine is highly addictive, it is actually the reason goring was such a fat arse. He was addicted to the stuff from 1930 right up till the Nuremberg trials.
Im not a scientist but id imagine THC has a longstanding use in medicine too. A lot of things that are used in medicine are otherwise illegal. You cant exactly walk into a chemist and buy morphine (well you cant here, I certainly hope you cant in America).
Something being illegal is no reason not to study it. Its more reason in fact, perhaps one day you can negate the undesirable effects of certain things.
You could question whether most modern research is ethical. At the end of the day, its all open to interpretation. For some people weed is actually the only thing that numbs the pain, and its unfortunate that those individuals are so consistently obstructed.
Im not a fan of weed, and I do believe it has negative long term problems, iv seen enough people that have grown too dependent on it.
That being said, this is nothing new. They used to use cocaine as an anesthetic before they learned about its dangers.
Morphine is highly addictive, it is actually the reason goring was such a fat arse. He was addicted to the stuff from 1930 right up till the Nuremberg trials.
Im not a scientist but id imagine THC has a longstanding use in medicine too. A lot of things that are used in medicine are otherwise illegal. You cant exactly walk into a chemist and buy morphine (well you cant here, I certainly hope you cant in America).
Something being illegal is no reason not to study it. Its more reason in fact, perhaps one day you can negate the undesirable effects of certain things.
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I do not understand how it could possibly be considered unethical, not unless the testing produced harrowing results, and the subjects were met with intense pain during testing. But the odds are that they will be "fine", and that nothing will happen, for the most part. The benefits far outweigh the negatives in this situation. There is no reason to hinder research, and something that could potentially end up as a boon to human society. Heck, some of the drugs were used in past ages as remedies and cures. Sometimes, they actually worked. Who knows what could happen if we actually bothered to test them, and manipulate them to their maximum potential.
I do not understand how it could possibly be considered unethical, not unless the testing produced harrowing results, and the subjects were met with intense pain during testing. But the odds are that they will be "fine", and that nothing will happen, for the most part. The benefits far outweigh the negatives in this situation. There is no reason to hinder research, and something that could potentially end up as a boon to human society. Heck, some of the drugs were used in past ages as remedies and cures. Sometimes, they actually worked. Who knows what could happen if we actually bothered to test them, and manipulate them to their maximum potential.
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i DESPISE the general outlook on drugs.  ethical. pfft. everyone has different ethics. no matter what you do or say, it is "unethical" to somebody. the use of ANY and ALL drugs should be allowed on a personal basis.

 some of you may or may not remember some chemicals a few years back that were becoming popular like "am2201" or "jwh-018". they were used in alot of "herbal incense" blends, and could be bought in pure form as well. through a huge amount of ANECDOTAL reports, this class of chemicals were made a schedule 1 drug. there are reports that it can be "bad for people with psychotic disorders" but this is never backed up by anything more than an anecdotal report of some kid smoking too much "spice" and having giant seizures and almost dying ( both things never actually happened, due to the low amount of said chemicals in said product, and the VERY small amount of it you would buy for 5, 10, or whatever amount of dollars.).  i personal research using myself, and many others as "test subjects" however, i found that that was ENTIRELY the opposite case.  what chemicals specifically helped what people varied, but we were always able to find at least 1 chemical in the jwh/am lines, that removed all or nearly all of the varying negative "symptoms" of our varying psychosis's. NOW however, i cannot resume ANY testing on this because i dont work for the government, and they schedule 1'd these things ithout ANY form of testing on it. not like they would care, these were cannabinoids, and as such the guvment wants them to be a no-no unless they can EASILY control it and charge huge amounts of money for a virtually worthless, watered down version (see marinol)
i DESPISE the general outlook on drugs.  ethical. pfft. everyone has different ethics. no matter what you do or say, it is "unethical" to somebody. the use of ANY and ALL drugs should be allowed on a personal basis.

 some of you may or may not remember some chemicals a few years back that were becoming popular like "am2201" or "jwh-018". they were used in alot of "herbal incense" blends, and could be bought in pure form as well. through a huge amount of ANECDOTAL reports, this class of chemicals were made a schedule 1 drug. there are reports that it can be "bad for people with psychotic disorders" but this is never backed up by anything more than an anecdotal report of some kid smoking too much "spice" and having giant seizures and almost dying ( both things never actually happened, due to the low amount of said chemicals in said product, and the VERY small amount of it you would buy for 5, 10, or whatever amount of dollars.).  i personal research using myself, and many others as "test subjects" however, i found that that was ENTIRELY the opposite case.  what chemicals specifically helped what people varied, but we were always able to find at least 1 chemical in the jwh/am lines, that removed all or nearly all of the varying negative "symptoms" of our varying psychosis's. NOW however, i cannot resume ANY testing on this because i dont work for the government, and they schedule 1'd these things ithout ANY form of testing on it. not like they would care, these were cannabinoids, and as such the guvment wants them to be a no-no unless they can EASILY control it and charge huge amounts of money for a virtually worthless, watered down version (see marinol)
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