Flame wars start from the greatest difference in opinion but Sonic games are best in 2d rather than 3d. Games in itself like Sonic the Hedgehog you speak of is based on the opinions of others. Sonic isn't the fastest mainly because there are characters that can teleport but in terms of linear speed he is one of the top fastest characters in gaming.

The problem with Sonic in my opinion is that things haven't changed very much
i miss sonic adventures 1 and 2 those were probably the best sonic games made
Sega is declining and its mascot isn't gonna keep it afloat with crappy remakes of the same games from years ago

Posting in a topic six months dead? How brave of you.

That said, I would like to hear some opinions on Sonic Colors. I haven't been able to finish this game (combination of college keeping me busy and I hate that Eggman was able to control Tails' mind and I don't want to have to fight Tails...), but from what I played, it seemed like a decent game. Perhaps Sega was on the right track with this one in my opinion, but I can't confirm it until I finish the game, whenever that will be.

Then again, Sega pulled that stunt with the Streets of Rage Remake, but that's neither here nor there, and I don't want to turn this into a topic centered around Sega when it's supposed to be around Sonic, so I'll just shut up now.

Personally i would like to see a Sonic RPG in which you create your own character with various types of weapons and abilities with interactions and aid from the sonic cast plus specifically created RPG characters so it seems like a living world, and is set in the relm of the archie comic series , that way there is variation of areas, cityscapes and 'dungeon' areas, just an idea but i think that is what Sonic Fans (including me) would LOVE to see and play (given its done correctly)

syn319 : So you want to see a well built Sonic MMO, from what I'm reading. I honestly know almost nothing about the Archie Comics series, so playing something like that would be a brand new experience for me.

The only problem I foresee with that is the creating your own character part. How much do you want to be able to put on your character? What should the limitations be on what you can do so the game is decently balanced and the players are not overpowered? What limitations on species will there be?

With freedoms come limitations, unfortunately. It all depends on the amount of time the developers would be able to put into it. If you want a very wide variety of abilities and weapons, the time it would take to balance this out and figure out a limitation on how much one character could have, as well as discerning weaknesses, could limit appearance variety. Likewise, having a very wide array of character designs and species choices will inevitably limit the available weapons and abilities the player can choose from.

While it is a good idea in theory, such a task would be very time consuming. As a result, we may not see a release until maybe 2013 if work were started on it today and the end result was very well done, regardless of whether it were a standard RPG or an MMORPG.

Sonic's still going strong in my opinion i liked shadow and heroes and people seem to think you blur'd at super sonic speeds when you didn't even go that fast. next is story i want a story in sonic ubless its a old game i cant stand it when games have no story

DARKANINE : If you were born around the days of the NES, your story would have been found in the instruction manual in all but RPGs and the oddball game that actually put story in the game. I come from those days, so I can roll either way on story. It all depends on how well implemented it is; sometimes it's better to not have a story than a poorly written or poorly implemented one.

The older Sonic games, it was just as I described above. Your story played out in the manual and maybe an opening cutscene or something, and wrapped up in the end cutscene/credits. And those were good games, at least in my opinion. But that's my generation.

Also, ubless? What's that?

Im no game developer/programmer but as a sonic fan i would like to see at least an attempt made to make a game like the one i described, Most game developers do what they 'Think' fans would like, hence the HD remakes, but what would revitalize the sonic series to what it was in the early 90's where it was outdoing the likes of Mario, Sega should do what Mo-jang and Insomnia are doing- making a beta, letting the public play it and provide feed back on what needs fixed what we would like to see what to remove ect. now that could cause problems too, there are those that like the other characters there are those who only want to use sonic, theres no such thing as absolutely perfect but i would give an A for effort if they at least tried

I just don't like Sonic as a 3D game. It was fine in 2D and they need to continue in that tradition. Sonic and Sonic 2 were a couple of my favorite games growing up and I don't like all this other bullcrap they keep adding. Werehog? Swords and such? BULLCRAP.

syn319 : Honestly, with how vastly different our opinions are on the Sonic series (and I do mean VASTLY different), I don't think that would be the greatest idea in the world. Don't get me wrong, it's still a good idea, but could you imagine what everyone would say and how many varied opinions they'd have? The end product would probably be no better. Of course, if we went only with gameplay standards, then we'd have some progress. Even if the story and such aren't the greatest, at least we'd avoid seeing gameplay on the same level as Sonic '06.

Bobbynibbles : And if all that "bullcrap" they keep adding were presented in 2D instead of 3D, would you still agree that 2D Sonic would be preferred?

Your main problem seems to be with the storylines and gimmicks, not specifically with the 3D aspect. I still think those games were fairly decent after you got used to the controls, and I kinda like where they were going with the "stoyrbook series" as they called it. But I'm just one opinion of many, and like I said to syn319, our opinions are quite varied.

anyone heard of that new Sonic Game?(I forgot what it was called)They let you play as Classic Sonic and the current Sonic! Ohz, if you play Classic Sonic, the gameplay is sidescrolling(although the graphics are still 3d)!
(anyone heard of that new Sonic Game?(I forgot what it was called)They let you play as Classic Sonic and the current Sonic! Ohz, if you play Classic Sonic, the gameplay is sidescrolling(although the graphics are still 3d)!)

sonikku : I do not like the 3D aspect and the hokey gimmicks just do not work in my opinion. Why do they have to go into all that when the original Sonic games were so well received?

Bobbynibbles : Consider the games that were being released at the time they made the move to 3D. How many of the games were still running in 2D?

As for the gimmicks... I find them hit and miss. The motion controls in Secret Rings were a little too wonky for my taste, but I enjoyed the sword mechanic in Black Knight. His sword just felt like an extension of his spines the way I played the game.

Omniterran : Sonic Generations? Honestly, I think Sega is reaching into the bottom of the idea barrel for this one. Time travel, seriously? I mean, Tails and Eggman could do it... but why would they want to? What possible reason could any of them have for going back in time? (Note that this question should only be answered from whoever decides to go back there first, so if Eggman went back first, it'd be obvious that Sonic and company would want to follow him back to stop him. )

Though if they can successfully pull this one off, it will be one heck of a Sonic game.

Edit: It came to my attention a short time after making this post that this is not the first time Sega has tried the time travel gimmick, as Eggman (then Robotnik) tried to take over the world using the power of the Time Stones in Sonic CD, and Sonic had to stop him before he could succeed, traveling through past and future while doing so in an effort to restore the place to a proper form. They're reusing this thing in a different form now, so maybe things will work out. But I won't form an official opinion until after I get the game (if I even can on my horribly low budget) and play it for myself.

I like the fact that Sonic has green eyes. Probably cause my favorite color is green and blue.

to each his/her own i suppose, i did enjoy sonic adventure 2, sonic battle, sonic and knuckles and the original, the others were lack luster, Shadow the Hedgehog although entertaining was by far the easiest sonic game ever next to Dr.Robotnik's mean bean machine

syn319 : ...just a quick question here, how is it that you enjoyed Sonic and Knuckles and not Sonic 3? The former is merely an extension of the latter, as seen when you attach Sonic 3 to the Sonic and Knuckles cartridge to form Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

the reason for that is, i only ever got my hands on sonic and knuckles and i don't think i ever played sonic 3 to be completely honest, so at least for that one, my opinion has yet to be made, anywho games aside, the extened universe such as Archie and SATAM need some games based on them, instead of the recent stories in the sonic games, such as king arthur and werehogs, those story lines are pretty rock solid, plus they aren't too well known, so for most people it will be a taste of something new that is exclusive to sonic alone and not ripping from the knights of old or Transylvanian beasts of lore

syn319 : As it turns out, some time ago, the SEGA Technical Institute once tried to make a game based on SATAM. According to a blog on 1up.com (linked here), they tried making a game on this, but eventually decided to scrap the project because at this time, the show wasn't out yet and they didn't want to bank on success prematurely.

There is another game (though it's more of a fan game than an official one) called Sonic Epoch, so if you want your SATAM game fix, this might do it for you.

I hope these help.