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Recently I spoke to a very close friend of mine who was and in many ways still is more like a brother to me. We had gone almost eight years without speaking to each other or seeing each other. To make a long story short, there was an issue years back where my friend had stolen money from me. He didn’t admit to it even after being caught and thus there was a fallout between us after almost 16 years of being pretty much as close as brothers.

For a very long time I held a lot of anger toward him for the sole reason that I was naïve in thinking that we were close that I didn’t have to worry about something as material as money coming between us. Anyway, after I got involved with social media he reached out to me and for a year or so we have been very civil toward each other but at the same time not really in contact.

One day out of the blue he reached out to me and asked to talk to me. We now live in different states but thanks to technology we were able to speak to each other face to face. I don’t know if it was just the right time and the right circumstances but there was no hesitation on my end and we were able to actually talk for close to an hour and we pretty much buried the hatchet with each other. To be honest even though we had gone almost a decade without speaking it kind of felt like we never had a falling out.

In all honesty even though I wasn’t really the one responsible for the fall out, I felt better that we buried the hatchet. I had actually forgiven him a long time ago but I never got the chance to tell him that until recently.

Although I feel better now that we’re back on speaking terms beyond an occasional hello or how are you?, there are friends of mine who have questioned me as to why I forgave him and why I feel reconciling was a good thing saying that if someone had stolen from them that would be the end of the friendship etc.

I try not preach but I basically said that people mess up and it’s better to not judge and to try and work passed the problems if possible. I admit whole heartedly that several years ago I didn’t feel the way I do now about this. Perhaps I’m mellowing as I’ve gotten older or maybe it is like the old saying that time heals all wounds.

I just know as someone who himself has made mistakes in life that I wouldn’t want someone to hold a grudge against me. I really hope that there isn’t anyone who has any ill will toward me at least. There has been an awful lot that has happened in the years since we had our falling out and I can only speak for myself but I feel that the things I’ve been through in the years since good and bad has given me a fresh perspective on things. Despite the opinion of some friends I am convinced it was the right thing to do for both of us and it was too long to get to that point.

So how do you feel about reconciling? Have you ever had a friend who wronged you that you went a long time without talking to? Were you able to resolve issues and forgive? Or, Have you ever wronged a friend and regret it and tried to mend things? Feel free to share your stories.

Recently I spoke to a very close friend of mine who was and in many ways still is more like a brother to me. We had gone almost eight years without speaking to each other or seeing each other. To make a long story short, there was an issue years back where my friend had stolen money from me. He didn’t admit to it even after being caught and thus there was a fallout between us after almost 16 years of being pretty much as close as brothers.

For a very long time I held a lot of anger toward him for the sole reason that I was naïve in thinking that we were close that I didn’t have to worry about something as material as money coming between us. Anyway, after I got involved with social media he reached out to me and for a year or so we have been very civil toward each other but at the same time not really in contact.

One day out of the blue he reached out to me and asked to talk to me. We now live in different states but thanks to technology we were able to speak to each other face to face. I don’t know if it was just the right time and the right circumstances but there was no hesitation on my end and we were able to actually talk for close to an hour and we pretty much buried the hatchet with each other. To be honest even though we had gone almost a decade without speaking it kind of felt like we never had a falling out.

In all honesty even though I wasn’t really the one responsible for the fall out, I felt better that we buried the hatchet. I had actually forgiven him a long time ago but I never got the chance to tell him that until recently.

Although I feel better now that we’re back on speaking terms beyond an occasional hello or how are you?, there are friends of mine who have questioned me as to why I forgave him and why I feel reconciling was a good thing saying that if someone had stolen from them that would be the end of the friendship etc.

I try not preach but I basically said that people mess up and it’s better to not judge and to try and work passed the problems if possible. I admit whole heartedly that several years ago I didn’t feel the way I do now about this. Perhaps I’m mellowing as I’ve gotten older or maybe it is like the old saying that time heals all wounds.

I just know as someone who himself has made mistakes in life that I wouldn’t want someone to hold a grudge against me. I really hope that there isn’t anyone who has any ill will toward me at least. There has been an awful lot that has happened in the years since we had our falling out and I can only speak for myself but I feel that the things I’ve been through in the years since good and bad has given me a fresh perspective on things. Despite the opinion of some friends I am convinced it was the right thing to do for both of us and it was too long to get to that point.

So how do you feel about reconciling? Have you ever had a friend who wronged you that you went a long time without talking to? Were you able to resolve issues and forgive? Or, Have you ever wronged a friend and regret it and tried to mend things? Feel free to share your stories.

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I have tried, although it didn't work out. We became friends again, and all I could think about was the falling out we had. I have trouble getting over things, and I think that is just me...
I have tried, although it didn't work out. We became friends again, and all I could think about was the falling out we had. I have trouble getting over things, and I think that is just me...
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I've done so with several people.

One of note is one of my exes. She had total faith in me, and I ended up destroying her heart (as opposed to breaking it)

She changed as a result. Later on, a year later, I tried to apologize and restart the friendship. I ended up accodentally restarting the flames of the relationship. I didn't intend to, and of course, brpke her heart again shortly when I told her it wasn't like that.

Finally, now things are... different.

We talk here and there and we are civil. But she's constantly making dark/dirty jokes and trying to catch me off guard. Of course, she knows I'm dating someone, and I doubt she'd try anything. But I know full well she wants me back :/

She's just lying in wait, to see if theres an opportunity. She knows my one weakness. She's just nice enough to not exploit it to get what she wants.
I've done so with several people.

One of note is one of my exes. She had total faith in me, and I ended up destroying her heart (as opposed to breaking it)

She changed as a result. Later on, a year later, I tried to apologize and restart the friendship. I ended up accodentally restarting the flames of the relationship. I didn't intend to, and of course, brpke her heart again shortly when I told her it wasn't like that.

Finally, now things are... different.

We talk here and there and we are civil. But she's constantly making dark/dirty jokes and trying to catch me off guard. Of course, she knows I'm dating someone, and I doubt she'd try anything. But I know full well she wants me back :/

She's just lying in wait, to see if theres an opportunity. She knows my one weakness. She's just nice enough to not exploit it to get what she wants.
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ender44 : I can relate to that as well. I’m not a bitter person by nature but sometimes it is difficult to get over things especially if you’re the one who was wronged. Unfortunately for me, my friend is not the only one who has wronged me before and each situation has made me a bit more stern in my ways. As I said before I freely admit I have made my share of mistakes but as I’ve gotten older, matured and, straightened up I have developed an old-school way of thinking.

I have tried as best as I can to move on from those mistakes and have tried to be as good a friend pretty much anyone I come in contact with or at least that’s what I try to do. Sometimes though it isn’t easy and it can at times be frustrating. I am a believer in redemption though and as I admit to my mistakes, I am also a forgiving person. I’m glad that my friend and I finally had the chance to sit down and talk. It was too long in coming but I guess it was just one of those things where it was right place, right time, right circumstances. I don’t know if it was divine intervention or what have you but it just felt right.


legacyme3 : In regard to exes well I’ve been there too; mostly as the one who was dumped and lied to and such. I was engaged to one ex and she really did a number on me both in terms of how I viewed relationships but also my heart.

Without going into detail, she lied and cheated for the duration of our whole relationship and lied to me about serious things that no one should be lied to about. I have been pretty much single since but she also reached out to me and apologized for everything and pretty much sought forgiveness. I did appreciate the apology but at the same time I couldn’t really say “Oh it’s water under the bridge.” Basically she came to me a decade later and by then the damage had long been done. The things that she did has kept me single since.

I was very polite and cordial with her and told her I appreciated the apology but there isn’t much that can be done about things twelve years later. She has talked to me periodically since and I’m still cordial toward her but it won’t ever be like it was between us and she knows that. I did appreciate the apology though and I wish her well. As for me and relationships I hope that one day everything will fall into place for me but I have learned to just take things as they come and not try to aim for it. I put it in God’s hands now.

You’re situation is a bit similar in that I feel your regret as my ex had expressed her regret toward me. Our relationship was an on again, off again kind of thing. In all honesty even though I appreciated the apology I regret the whole relationship not only because of what I was put through but because I also didn’t really have my head on straight at the time and because of what I was going through I ended up making my share of mistakes. I don’t blame my mistakes on anyone but myself but I do believe in the concept of cause and effect and I have come to believe that had I not gotten into a relationship with her to begin with, I probably wouldn’t have made a lot of the mistakes that I did. I know that might seem cold and harsh but it is honestly how I feel about it.

I am by no means saying that your situation will end up the same way but I do think it is good that you apologized and that you’re on speaking terms. It isn’t easy to apologize when you’re in the wrong, we’ve all been there at one time or another but if you really want to get passed everything it’s a necessity.

The important thing I feel is once you’ve admitted your faults that you don’t repeat the same mistakes and try as best as you can to learn from it and such. It can be and often are hard lessons to learn but it can be very valuable if you let it mature you as a person. Best of luck to you.
ender44 : I can relate to that as well. I’m not a bitter person by nature but sometimes it is difficult to get over things especially if you’re the one who was wronged. Unfortunately for me, my friend is not the only one who has wronged me before and each situation has made me a bit more stern in my ways. As I said before I freely admit I have made my share of mistakes but as I’ve gotten older, matured and, straightened up I have developed an old-school way of thinking.

I have tried as best as I can to move on from those mistakes and have tried to be as good a friend pretty much anyone I come in contact with or at least that’s what I try to do. Sometimes though it isn’t easy and it can at times be frustrating. I am a believer in redemption though and as I admit to my mistakes, I am also a forgiving person. I’m glad that my friend and I finally had the chance to sit down and talk. It was too long in coming but I guess it was just one of those things where it was right place, right time, right circumstances. I don’t know if it was divine intervention or what have you but it just felt right.


legacyme3 : In regard to exes well I’ve been there too; mostly as the one who was dumped and lied to and such. I was engaged to one ex and she really did a number on me both in terms of how I viewed relationships but also my heart.

Without going into detail, she lied and cheated for the duration of our whole relationship and lied to me about serious things that no one should be lied to about. I have been pretty much single since but she also reached out to me and apologized for everything and pretty much sought forgiveness. I did appreciate the apology but at the same time I couldn’t really say “Oh it’s water under the bridge.” Basically she came to me a decade later and by then the damage had long been done. The things that she did has kept me single since.

I was very polite and cordial with her and told her I appreciated the apology but there isn’t much that can be done about things twelve years later. She has talked to me periodically since and I’m still cordial toward her but it won’t ever be like it was between us and she knows that. I did appreciate the apology though and I wish her well. As for me and relationships I hope that one day everything will fall into place for me but I have learned to just take things as they come and not try to aim for it. I put it in God’s hands now.

You’re situation is a bit similar in that I feel your regret as my ex had expressed her regret toward me. Our relationship was an on again, off again kind of thing. In all honesty even though I appreciated the apology I regret the whole relationship not only because of what I was put through but because I also didn’t really have my head on straight at the time and because of what I was going through I ended up making my share of mistakes. I don’t blame my mistakes on anyone but myself but I do believe in the concept of cause and effect and I have come to believe that had I not gotten into a relationship with her to begin with, I probably wouldn’t have made a lot of the mistakes that I did. I know that might seem cold and harsh but it is honestly how I feel about it.

I am by no means saying that your situation will end up the same way but I do think it is good that you apologized and that you’re on speaking terms. It isn’t easy to apologize when you’re in the wrong, we’ve all been there at one time or another but if you really want to get passed everything it’s a necessity.

The important thing I feel is once you’ve admitted your faults that you don’t repeat the same mistakes and try as best as you can to learn from it and such. It can be and often are hard lessons to learn but it can be very valuable if you let it mature you as a person. Best of luck to you.
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I had a falling out with a good friend of mine a while back, we went almost a year without speaking... Then one day he started working in the same place and we've been friends just as we used to be since.
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I had a friend for 5 or 6 years that I could have said the same: we were practically like brothers. Various things happened between us: good, bad, strange...yet we always had managed to stick through it. Then something odd happened...I'm not even really sure what it was. I remember the day clearly, it was March 6, 2011 (The same day that Pokemon Black/White came out, it's somewhat significant.), and I had brought a new friend of mine to our local GameStop to pick up the game. We had arrived before GameStop had opened, and we decided to get something to eat next door. When we finished, my friend, who was like a brother to me, was standing at the door. I said hi, but he flipped, like he was jealous or something, that I had another friend with me. Now, I'm not sure that's what it was, because there may have been something prior to this that I was completely unaware of (and trust me, that's possible, because he holds grudges for the strangest things, I had noticed through our friendship), so I just shrugged it off.

After that, my new friend and I drove around for a bit, then I called a mutual friend of mine and my "friend-brother's" to see if we could come over for a little while. He agreed, and we showed up. My other friend was there as well, and he just glared at me and my friend. Again, I shrugged it off, thinking he was just a little moody that day. I walked into my friend's room and he was showing me something he'd found on a game, and I was helping him with the rest. After a while, my new friend and I left.

Now, it's a few days later, and my "friend-brother" isn't answering my phone calls; I was hoping to hang out. A few months pass, and we had gone without talking. I found out that he refused to talk to me, that he actually hated my guts. He did various things, such as change my name in his phone to read "Don't answer this number" or something like that. I even found out that he insulted my new friend to his face, many, many times. Nobody had told me about this until that point, and I was quite upset. I tried to talk to him, to reconcile with him, yet he refused to talk to me. Even now, he refuses to be in the same room as me, won't talk to me, and if there's an event that we would both enjoy, if I'm there, he won't come, or he'll leave if I show up afterward.

So, to answer your question, I believe that reconciling friendships is a great thing, if the other party is willing. To some extent, I still wish that I could fix my old friendship with him, but...after seeing what he was putting my friends through...I'd say, no thanks.
I had a friend for 5 or 6 years that I could have said the same: we were practically like brothers. Various things happened between us: good, bad, strange...yet we always had managed to stick through it. Then something odd happened...I'm not even really sure what it was. I remember the day clearly, it was March 6, 2011 (The same day that Pokemon Black/White came out, it's somewhat significant.), and I had brought a new friend of mine to our local GameStop to pick up the game. We had arrived before GameStop had opened, and we decided to get something to eat next door. When we finished, my friend, who was like a brother to me, was standing at the door. I said hi, but he flipped, like he was jealous or something, that I had another friend with me. Now, I'm not sure that's what it was, because there may have been something prior to this that I was completely unaware of (and trust me, that's possible, because he holds grudges for the strangest things, I had noticed through our friendship), so I just shrugged it off.

After that, my new friend and I drove around for a bit, then I called a mutual friend of mine and my "friend-brother's" to see if we could come over for a little while. He agreed, and we showed up. My other friend was there as well, and he just glared at me and my friend. Again, I shrugged it off, thinking he was just a little moody that day. I walked into my friend's room and he was showing me something he'd found on a game, and I was helping him with the rest. After a while, my new friend and I left.

Now, it's a few days later, and my "friend-brother" isn't answering my phone calls; I was hoping to hang out. A few months pass, and we had gone without talking. I found out that he refused to talk to me, that he actually hated my guts. He did various things, such as change my name in his phone to read "Don't answer this number" or something like that. I even found out that he insulted my new friend to his face, many, many times. Nobody had told me about this until that point, and I was quite upset. I tried to talk to him, to reconcile with him, yet he refused to talk to me. Even now, he refuses to be in the same room as me, won't talk to me, and if there's an event that we would both enjoy, if I'm there, he won't come, or he'll leave if I show up afterward.

So, to answer your question, I believe that reconciling friendships is a great thing, if the other party is willing. To some extent, I still wish that I could fix my old friendship with him, but...after seeing what he was putting my friends through...I'd say, no thanks.
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Kwojiba : I have had similar experiences with some friends either because of a falling out or because things in life just happen and time passes. It isn’t fun to feel like you’ve been forgotten by friends and unfortunately that is something that I have had to deal with periodically. In situations like that now of days I just try to be polite about it but not let it affect what I’m doing now and such.

In regard to my friend, as I said we were as close as brothers so much to the degree that I use to introduce him as a brother pretty much. It hurt for a while that it was something like money that came between us. What made me more angry than I probably should have been was this happened when I needed to make deadline for a magazine (I’m a writer) and I had sent him to the store for a piece of equipment I needed, back in the days when I was still on dial up etc. He did what I asked him to do but he also took money for himself without discussing it with me, that is where the problem was. What made it worse on me was I was dealing with some health issues at the time and it definitely didn’t help my stress level.

It isn’t good to hold on to anger. As I say this I will admit that I am not perfect and the concept of letting things go can be easier said than done sometimes. So, I don’t want to make it seem like I’m saying one thing but, doing another. It’s just human nature I guess that anger rears it’s ugly head and sometimes it’s more difficult to let things go than other times. It all depends on the situation I guess.

It’s good that you and your friend were able to make peace. To be honest I wish that the falling out that I had with my friend lasted only a year and not almost a decade. It really isn’t worth it to let things sit for that long without dealing with it, whether you’re the cause of the problem or not.

We haven’t talked since last week but I’m hoping that it is at least a start toward rebuilding our relationship.

Sword_Kirby777 : It seems as though perhaps there may have been an underlying issue between you and your friend. It certainly seems as though he might have been a little jealous but it’s understandable because when you’re close to someone that you’ve known for a very long time you do get attached and tend to cling to that friendship. One of my problems when I was younger was I trusted too easily and would get attached to friends quickly. It hasn’t changed me really as a person that things for one reason or another changed between me and those friends but it can hurt sometimes. Now of days I am an admitted neurotic and am not quick to trust many.

It reminds me of what my great grandmother use to say all the time. “Love many, Trust few, Always paddle your own canoe…” In all honesty I never really thought too much about that until I started getting older and trying to straighten my life out. It’s funny sometimes how something that seems so simple, cleaver, and in some ways cute and funny can be right on the mark and hit close to home.

I guess the main lesson I learned through my experiences other than that I needed to straighten myself out was that even though some friends might burn you and for whatever reason betray your trust, it isn’t good to let it change you as a person. I won’t sit here and pretend that I know you or your friend but it seems like maybe he might have had a problem with your new friend and not necessarily with you.

It could be that he felt betrayed by you in some way by you associating with your other friend. It does seem kind of grade school like but it does happen in the real world as well. It could be a scenario that he had problems with your other friend for whatever the reason and that because your friends with that person he may have had problems with, that in your friend’s mind might make you guilty by association.

Only he knows the reasons behind why he is giving you a cold shoulder. It is important though to not let it change you. One of my bigger problems was I got burned not only by my friend/sergeant brother but I was also burned by a couple of people I trusted. Over time the accumulative effects of all of that was starting to change my heart and that’s not a good thing.

I have also as I said have made my share of mistakes and have plenty of regrets. I wouldn’t want someone to hold a grudge against me or have any ill will toward me and just knowing that has made it easier for me to at least be open to talking with people who I might have had issues with.

Maybe it just isn’t the right time for your friend to talk things out with you. Like I said before the conversation with my brother pretty much came out of the blue at in the middle of the night no less. Beyond a brief phone conversation several years back and occasional hellos on social media we hadn’t talked or seen each other in almost eight years. I can’t speak for him but there wasn’t any hesitation on my end about talking face to face and it honestly felt like we hadn’t been separated for eight years. It was though one conversation although it was a good conversation I am by no means saying that things are like they were before our falling out. It was however a step in the right direction and he knows I’m there if he needs me or wants to talk. It really did feel like it was the right place and the right time. Hopefully the right time will come for you and your friend. Best of luck to you.

Kwojiba : I have had similar experiences with some friends either because of a falling out or because things in life just happen and time passes. It isn’t fun to feel like you’ve been forgotten by friends and unfortunately that is something that I have had to deal with periodically. In situations like that now of days I just try to be polite about it but not let it affect what I’m doing now and such.

In regard to my friend, as I said we were as close as brothers so much to the degree that I use to introduce him as a brother pretty much. It hurt for a while that it was something like money that came between us. What made me more angry than I probably should have been was this happened when I needed to make deadline for a magazine (I’m a writer) and I had sent him to the store for a piece of equipment I needed, back in the days when I was still on dial up etc. He did what I asked him to do but he also took money for himself without discussing it with me, that is where the problem was. What made it worse on me was I was dealing with some health issues at the time and it definitely didn’t help my stress level.

It isn’t good to hold on to anger. As I say this I will admit that I am not perfect and the concept of letting things go can be easier said than done sometimes. So, I don’t want to make it seem like I’m saying one thing but, doing another. It’s just human nature I guess that anger rears it’s ugly head and sometimes it’s more difficult to let things go than other times. It all depends on the situation I guess.

It’s good that you and your friend were able to make peace. To be honest I wish that the falling out that I had with my friend lasted only a year and not almost a decade. It really isn’t worth it to let things sit for that long without dealing with it, whether you’re the cause of the problem or not.

We haven’t talked since last week but I’m hoping that it is at least a start toward rebuilding our relationship.

Sword_Kirby777 : It seems as though perhaps there may have been an underlying issue between you and your friend. It certainly seems as though he might have been a little jealous but it’s understandable because when you’re close to someone that you’ve known for a very long time you do get attached and tend to cling to that friendship. One of my problems when I was younger was I trusted too easily and would get attached to friends quickly. It hasn’t changed me really as a person that things for one reason or another changed between me and those friends but it can hurt sometimes. Now of days I am an admitted neurotic and am not quick to trust many.

It reminds me of what my great grandmother use to say all the time. “Love many, Trust few, Always paddle your own canoe…” In all honesty I never really thought too much about that until I started getting older and trying to straighten my life out. It’s funny sometimes how something that seems so simple, cleaver, and in some ways cute and funny can be right on the mark and hit close to home.

I guess the main lesson I learned through my experiences other than that I needed to straighten myself out was that even though some friends might burn you and for whatever reason betray your trust, it isn’t good to let it change you as a person. I won’t sit here and pretend that I know you or your friend but it seems like maybe he might have had a problem with your new friend and not necessarily with you.

It could be that he felt betrayed by you in some way by you associating with your other friend. It does seem kind of grade school like but it does happen in the real world as well. It could be a scenario that he had problems with your other friend for whatever the reason and that because your friends with that person he may have had problems with, that in your friend’s mind might make you guilty by association.

Only he knows the reasons behind why he is giving you a cold shoulder. It is important though to not let it change you. One of my bigger problems was I got burned not only by my friend/sergeant brother but I was also burned by a couple of people I trusted. Over time the accumulative effects of all of that was starting to change my heart and that’s not a good thing.

I have also as I said have made my share of mistakes and have plenty of regrets. I wouldn’t want someone to hold a grudge against me or have any ill will toward me and just knowing that has made it easier for me to at least be open to talking with people who I might have had issues with.

Maybe it just isn’t the right time for your friend to talk things out with you. Like I said before the conversation with my brother pretty much came out of the blue at in the middle of the night no less. Beyond a brief phone conversation several years back and occasional hellos on social media we hadn’t talked or seen each other in almost eight years. I can’t speak for him but there wasn’t any hesitation on my end about talking face to face and it honestly felt like we hadn’t been separated for eight years. It was though one conversation although it was a good conversation I am by no means saying that things are like they were before our falling out. It was however a step in the right direction and he knows I’m there if he needs me or wants to talk. It really did feel like it was the right place and the right time. Hopefully the right time will come for you and your friend. Best of luck to you.

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Thank you very much for your words, they really are nice to hear. I do know that there wasn't any bad feelings between them prior to that meeting since my new friend had just moved to our location, and my other friend lived here his whole life. So it really was just a juvenile reaction. However, I'm also pretty sure that there was an underlying issue that caused him to resent me, although I am fully aware that it was a big misunderstanding on both ends, but he refused to listen to reason, from any of our mutual friends or myself. It's things like that that irritate me, when there's a misunderstanding that cannot be cleared up, due to one or both parties being too childish to get over themselves. I won't let it change me or who I am, just I need to know that there are certain people that I need to be careful around, that's all.
Thank you very much for your words, they really are nice to hear. I do know that there wasn't any bad feelings between them prior to that meeting since my new friend had just moved to our location, and my other friend lived here his whole life. So it really was just a juvenile reaction. However, I'm also pretty sure that there was an underlying issue that caused him to resent me, although I am fully aware that it was a big misunderstanding on both ends, but he refused to listen to reason, from any of our mutual friends or myself. It's things like that that irritate me, when there's a misunderstanding that cannot be cleared up, due to one or both parties being too childish to get over themselves. I won't let it change me or who I am, just I need to know that there are certain people that I need to be careful around, that's all.
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Sword_Kirby777 : Well that’s obviously a good thing to always keep in mind that you do need to be careful. As someone who made his mistakes I couldn’t agree more that it’s something that people should do more often. As for me I really try to read people now of days to see what their intentions are and such. One thing I heard someone on television say once that I think kind of fits into the discussion and talk of feeling betrayed and such was you may know someone for a really long time and you may be close to them but eventually everyone has some kind of test and that will show what kind of character your friends have.

In other words if you give them a task that is of some importance to you and you put your faith and trust in them, how that person conducts themselves will shed some light on their character. In regard to my brother the task I gave him was extremely important because as I said I had to meet a deadline for a magazine that I was working for at the time. What made it almost like an emergency was it was an international magazine so I was literally working against a time difference and even though I had to have it to them on say a Wednesday because of the time difference I had to get it to them a day and a half before those who lived in the country where the magazine was based had to submit their work so I was extremely stressed at the time.

Looking back on the entire fiasco I should have been more suspicious because we had actually gotten into a bit of an argument over me being cautious and such. I remember him telling me something along the lines of dude you should trust me after all these years, don’t worry I’ll do what you need and I’ll come right back etc.

I did keep tabs on him while he was gone and he did do what he said he would do but the problem was he stole the money from me before he came back and said to me I’ll be back in a little while I have to go pick someone up and I’ll be back etc. He never came back so I made a call and found out what he did with my money and thus caught him red handed where he couldn’t use an excuse. People make light of my tendency to be paranoid and neurotic but that night pretty much validates why I am that way.

I guess you could say that he failed the test. During our conversation last week I didn’t really discuss what happened too much. I basically saw my friend as someone who had been through hell in the years since and even though it hasn’t been easy for me either over the years I was more concerned for my friend than I was about the situation that caused the fallout.

As I said before there are those both friends and family who are questioning why I would even talk to him after what he did. All I can say is I believe in redemption and I needed to hear him out. One thing I could tell during the conversation was that he had grown up a great deal in the time we hadn’t been in contact. What I mean by grown up has nothing to do with chronologically, it has a lot to do with maturity. I by no means judge him because there was a time when I needed to grow up too and thankfully I did.

I would like to think of it as we have been through a lot and have been through hell and back and we have emerged as two men who are in many ways wiser than we were years ago. I can only speak for myself of course but I hope he’s realized the errors of his ways like I did several years ago. We’ll see what happens the only thing I can do is take things one day at a time and take things as they come. He knows though I’m around if he needs me.

You’re very welcome. It means a lot to me that people value what I say. In my line of work I am use to incurring the ire of readers on occasion for things I say. At least I don’t have to worry too much about that here.

It may take time but hopefully your friend will come around. It all matters on whether it’s the right time. When it comes to things like that I put it in God’s hands.

Sword_Kirby777 : Well that’s obviously a good thing to always keep in mind that you do need to be careful. As someone who made his mistakes I couldn’t agree more that it’s something that people should do more often. As for me I really try to read people now of days to see what their intentions are and such. One thing I heard someone on television say once that I think kind of fits into the discussion and talk of feeling betrayed and such was you may know someone for a really long time and you may be close to them but eventually everyone has some kind of test and that will show what kind of character your friends have.

In other words if you give them a task that is of some importance to you and you put your faith and trust in them, how that person conducts themselves will shed some light on their character. In regard to my brother the task I gave him was extremely important because as I said I had to meet a deadline for a magazine that I was working for at the time. What made it almost like an emergency was it was an international magazine so I was literally working against a time difference and even though I had to have it to them on say a Wednesday because of the time difference I had to get it to them a day and a half before those who lived in the country where the magazine was based had to submit their work so I was extremely stressed at the time.

Looking back on the entire fiasco I should have been more suspicious because we had actually gotten into a bit of an argument over me being cautious and such. I remember him telling me something along the lines of dude you should trust me after all these years, don’t worry I’ll do what you need and I’ll come right back etc.

I did keep tabs on him while he was gone and he did do what he said he would do but the problem was he stole the money from me before he came back and said to me I’ll be back in a little while I have to go pick someone up and I’ll be back etc. He never came back so I made a call and found out what he did with my money and thus caught him red handed where he couldn’t use an excuse. People make light of my tendency to be paranoid and neurotic but that night pretty much validates why I am that way.

I guess you could say that he failed the test. During our conversation last week I didn’t really discuss what happened too much. I basically saw my friend as someone who had been through hell in the years since and even though it hasn’t been easy for me either over the years I was more concerned for my friend than I was about the situation that caused the fallout.

As I said before there are those both friends and family who are questioning why I would even talk to him after what he did. All I can say is I believe in redemption and I needed to hear him out. One thing I could tell during the conversation was that he had grown up a great deal in the time we hadn’t been in contact. What I mean by grown up has nothing to do with chronologically, it has a lot to do with maturity. I by no means judge him because there was a time when I needed to grow up too and thankfully I did.

I would like to think of it as we have been through a lot and have been through hell and back and we have emerged as two men who are in many ways wiser than we were years ago. I can only speak for myself of course but I hope he’s realized the errors of his ways like I did several years ago. We’ll see what happens the only thing I can do is take things one day at a time and take things as they come. He knows though I’m around if he needs me.

You’re very welcome. It means a lot to me that people value what I say. In my line of work I am use to incurring the ire of readers on occasion for things I say. At least I don’t have to worry too much about that here.

It may take time but hopefully your friend will come around. It all matters on whether it’s the right time. When it comes to things like that I put it in God’s hands.

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Ending friendships........ doesn't work. I have two friends who are like brothers to me. We were just regular friends back like 14 years ago. After a few years we lost contact then reconnected about 2 years ago when we were going to the same college. It's weird that it worked out like that, but I'm glad it did.

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Two of my friends used to be very close. They got into an argument. It got ugly. They stopped talking. A few months later one of them came back to apologize and ask to be friends again. The other had forgiven him a while ago. I was a bit freaked out when I walked in and saw the two of them together and smiling rather than yelling, but such is life.

Point is, true friendships never end. Things may come between people, but if they are true friends then nothing can keep them apart forever.
Ending friendships........ doesn't work. I have two friends who are like brothers to me. We were just regular friends back like 14 years ago. After a few years we lost contact then reconnected about 2 years ago when we were going to the same college. It's weird that it worked out like that, but I'm glad it did.

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Two of my friends used to be very close. They got into an argument. It got ugly. They stopped talking. A few months later one of them came back to apologize and ask to be friends again. The other had forgiven him a while ago. I was a bit freaked out when I walked in and saw the two of them together and smiling rather than yelling, but such is life.

Point is, true friendships never end. Things may come between people, but if they are true friends then nothing can keep them apart forever.
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I have some friends like this. Not that any of them did anything serious like this to me but I feel like we have a falling out every once in a while. Quite often it's just that we stop talking for a while because we both get busy and then one or both of us make an effort to hang out again.

Sometimes like takes things in a different direction than you expect and those who you thought you would be friends with "forever" move on. I do wish I could manage to have held on to some of my old friends but quite often they made choices in their lives that made them hard to be around.
I have some friends like this. Not that any of them did anything serious like this to me but I feel like we have a falling out every once in a while. Quite often it's just that we stop talking for a while because we both get busy and then one or both of us make an effort to hang out again.

Sometimes like takes things in a different direction than you expect and those who you thought you would be friends with "forever" move on. I do wish I could manage to have held on to some of my old friends but quite often they made choices in their lives that made them hard to be around.
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BNuge : I couldn’t agree with you more… I can’t tell you how many times I had gotten into arguments, disagreements and such with friends and family over things that in hindsight were frankly stupid and more often than not I’ll think something along the lines of why would we fight over something like that.

Things like that can definitely be ugly. I will be honest I wish that the situation between my brother and I was dealt with years ago. Admittedly, eight years ago we were barely in our twenties, still immature, and hadn’t really wised up yet. It also didn’t help that we were both set in our own ways pretty much. It happens but I wish almost a full decade hadn’t of gone by without us talking.

I am in a way glad that technology wise we were able to talk face to face as opposed to online or on the phone. Call me old school but to me I think it’s better to hash things out with friends face to face. I haven’t talked to him since the conversation we had. I have sent him a few messages, pretty much just saying “Hey, What’s up?” etc. Hopefully I’ll hear back from him soon. I do appreciate though that I was given the chance to hash everything out with him.

I do know that I as I’ve said many times am not perfect and I’ve made my share of mistakes as well. I wouldn’t want anyone to hold a grudge against me for any mistakes I may have made. I could sort of tell that he was a bit nervous about talking or, at least that’s the way it looked like even though I didn’t say “Why are you nervous?” or anything like that. I hope that if he was nervous that by the end of the conversation that he felt relieved about things. As I said as far as I am concern this was too long in coming and although I wish now of days that it didn’t take us almost a decade to talk; sometimes things just happen at the right time and the right circumstances.

I know that he did ask me about who I still talked to from school and the people we grew up with. I don’t know who he talks to now of days but, I was very honest with him. I told him that I am basically an island unto myself for the most part. I do my work (Writing) and although I’m civil with everyone I pretty much don’t go where I’m not wanted. I’m not sure if he was talking to someone who might want to get in contact with me or anything but I just told him that if anyone wants to talk to me, they know where to find me. I guess in a way he and I are in the same boat because I pretty much keep to myself and in some ways don’t know who I’m on good terms with. Basically, I just take things as they come and just do what I need to do etc. I did tell him that he needs to do the same thing. Hopefully he’ll take that advice.

geeogree : Life definitely does tend to take you in different directions. Sometimes it seems like no matter how well you may think that you have things planned out, things can change on you. I know that many years ago I didn’t think that I would end up being a writer as my chosen profession. I also thought that I would be settled down by now. Things do indeed change but sometimes change can be good. In regard to writing I love it and despite the stresses that I’ve had to deal with from time to time it’s something that I have come to really enjoy. I just wish that I was in a position to make steady money off of my work. Hopefully one day I’ll get there.

I also wish that I could have held on to some relationships. Admittedly I wasn’t the best person when I was younger or, at least that’s how I feel about myself and sometimes you don’t make the wisest decisions when you’re younger. Hopefully as time goes by I’ll be able to mend whatever fences that I need to if some of my friends reach out to me. I hope so at least.

BNuge : I couldn’t agree with you more… I can’t tell you how many times I had gotten into arguments, disagreements and such with friends and family over things that in hindsight were frankly stupid and more often than not I’ll think something along the lines of why would we fight over something like that.

Things like that can definitely be ugly. I will be honest I wish that the situation between my brother and I was dealt with years ago. Admittedly, eight years ago we were barely in our twenties, still immature, and hadn’t really wised up yet. It also didn’t help that we were both set in our own ways pretty much. It happens but I wish almost a full decade hadn’t of gone by without us talking.

I am in a way glad that technology wise we were able to talk face to face as opposed to online or on the phone. Call me old school but to me I think it’s better to hash things out with friends face to face. I haven’t talked to him since the conversation we had. I have sent him a few messages, pretty much just saying “Hey, What’s up?” etc. Hopefully I’ll hear back from him soon. I do appreciate though that I was given the chance to hash everything out with him.

I do know that I as I’ve said many times am not perfect and I’ve made my share of mistakes as well. I wouldn’t want anyone to hold a grudge against me for any mistakes I may have made. I could sort of tell that he was a bit nervous about talking or, at least that’s the way it looked like even though I didn’t say “Why are you nervous?” or anything like that. I hope that if he was nervous that by the end of the conversation that he felt relieved about things. As I said as far as I am concern this was too long in coming and although I wish now of days that it didn’t take us almost a decade to talk; sometimes things just happen at the right time and the right circumstances.

I know that he did ask me about who I still talked to from school and the people we grew up with. I don’t know who he talks to now of days but, I was very honest with him. I told him that I am basically an island unto myself for the most part. I do my work (Writing) and although I’m civil with everyone I pretty much don’t go where I’m not wanted. I’m not sure if he was talking to someone who might want to get in contact with me or anything but I just told him that if anyone wants to talk to me, they know where to find me. I guess in a way he and I are in the same boat because I pretty much keep to myself and in some ways don’t know who I’m on good terms with. Basically, I just take things as they come and just do what I need to do etc. I did tell him that he needs to do the same thing. Hopefully he’ll take that advice.

geeogree : Life definitely does tend to take you in different directions. Sometimes it seems like no matter how well you may think that you have things planned out, things can change on you. I know that many years ago I didn’t think that I would end up being a writer as my chosen profession. I also thought that I would be settled down by now. Things do indeed change but sometimes change can be good. In regard to writing I love it and despite the stresses that I’ve had to deal with from time to time it’s something that I have come to really enjoy. I just wish that I was in a position to make steady money off of my work. Hopefully one day I’ll get there.

I also wish that I could have held on to some relationships. Admittedly I wasn’t the best person when I was younger or, at least that’s how I feel about myself and sometimes you don’t make the wisest decisions when you’re younger. Hopefully as time goes by I’ll be able to mend whatever fences that I need to if some of my friends reach out to me. I hope so at least.

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I don't reconcile with anyone. You get one chance with me and if you cross me I will never have anything to do with you ever again.
I don't reconcile with anyone. You get one chance with me and if you cross me I will never have anything to do with you ever again.
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KungFuMaster7800 : I won’t lie to you when I say that I have had a similar philosophy. Sometimes it is difficult to walk away from a relationship no matter what the reason. In this case this person was more like a brother to me than he was a friend. I guess that is one reason why I eventually opened myself up to the idea of reconciliation with him. I know that I am far from perfect and have made more than my share of mistakes and one of the things I have said to myself since opening myself up to reconciling with not just him but with others as well is, it would be wrong of me to say that I have learned from my mistakes and have become stronger from it if I wasn’t open to giving those who have wronged me a second chance.


It isn’t an easy thing to admit your wrongs and it definitely isn’t easy to ask forgiveness. It is something that I have had to do since straightening up. So it wouldn’t speak well of me to just shut myself off to those who may have gone through similar experiences. In regard to my friend we haven’t really spoken too much since the initial face to face via video but he did call me about a month ago asking for advice because he had just gone through a medical thing and since I have been through surgeries and deal with chronic pain he asked me if I had ever been given a certain kind of shot to deal with pain. I told him no and lord willing I would never have to. He said he was having trouble moving around and such. This was probably due to inflammation or some kind of reaction but I’m not a doctor so I told him to call someone and to go get looked at if it got any worse. I haven’t really spoken to him since but it isn’t because of another falling out or anything, I guess it’s just a case where he’s busy and so am I.



I hope that the next time I talk to him that he is feeling a little better.



KungFuMaster7800 : I won’t lie to you when I say that I have had a similar philosophy. Sometimes it is difficult to walk away from a relationship no matter what the reason. In this case this person was more like a brother to me than he was a friend. I guess that is one reason why I eventually opened myself up to the idea of reconciliation with him. I know that I am far from perfect and have made more than my share of mistakes and one of the things I have said to myself since opening myself up to reconciling with not just him but with others as well is, it would be wrong of me to say that I have learned from my mistakes and have become stronger from it if I wasn’t open to giving those who have wronged me a second chance.


It isn’t an easy thing to admit your wrongs and it definitely isn’t easy to ask forgiveness. It is something that I have had to do since straightening up. So it wouldn’t speak well of me to just shut myself off to those who may have gone through similar experiences. In regard to my friend we haven’t really spoken too much since the initial face to face via video but he did call me about a month ago asking for advice because he had just gone through a medical thing and since I have been through surgeries and deal with chronic pain he asked me if I had ever been given a certain kind of shot to deal with pain. I told him no and lord willing I would never have to. He said he was having trouble moving around and such. This was probably due to inflammation or some kind of reaction but I’m not a doctor so I told him to call someone and to go get looked at if it got any worse. I haven’t really spoken to him since but it isn’t because of another falling out or anything, I guess it’s just a case where he’s busy and so am I.



I hope that the next time I talk to him that he is feeling a little better.



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I've reconciled some and haven't with others. The ones that I haven't reconciled with have either made it clear they don't want me in their life or they have hurt me real bad.

I try and stay friends with my exes and it's worked out apart from 2 of them.
I've reconciled some and haven't with others. The ones that I haven't reconciled with have either made it clear they don't want me in their life or they have hurt me real bad.

I try and stay friends with my exes and it's worked out apart from 2 of them.
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Carnas : Well I can certainly understand where you’re coming from because I have been on both sides of it. I know what it feels like to be in the wrong and knows what it feels like to be betrayed. In regard to my friend I haven’t spoken to him in a little while but like I said before he knows how to get a hold of me if and when he wants to talk or needs anything.

In regard to feeling as though people don’t want you in their lives I have been there too. In some ways I am hesitant to reach out to people even though it has been many years since I’ve been around many of the people I went to school with or was friends with. I admit to being afraid to open the door for lack of a better term.

Although I have admitted my wrongs and have matured from my mistakes it just wouldn’t make me feel good to know that someone has heat with me for what ever reason. So for that reason I am accessible to anyone but I don’t reach out to too many people at the same time because of not knowing who I’m on good terms with etc. Simply put if someone reaches out to me I will hear them out but I don’t go where I’m not wanted.

In regard to my friend I went a long time without being open to the idea of hearing him out. When you are close with someone to the degree that you don’t acknowledge that person as a friend but as a brother and that person betrays your trust it can be very difficult to heal that wound.

It was something that I was clear to him when we briefly talked several years back before reconnecting recently. At the time he didn’t admit wrong doing but he did say that in his words that he understood why I was pissed off. Even though I didn’t accept it as accepting responsibility at the time, I will freely admit I was very angry with him and that in all likelihood overshadowed any rational thinking on my part.

As the years went on although I didn’t forget what happened between he and I the anger became less and less important to me. When things happen in life and you go through trials and tribulations it can give you a perspective on things. For me the last several years have been difficult and I have gone through many things that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. When we had that face to face conversation several months ago, he told me that he had gone through several things as well that I wouldn’t wish on anyone either.

I guess the thing I came to realize from all of this is that some of the struggles that I have been through over the years in essence gave me a fresh way of looking at things in a better way. I can only speak for myself but after talking to him face to face all this time later it made me feel as though he had gone through hard times and perhaps he didn’t have his priorities in order years ago when he made the decision he did which had us part company for several years.

Although I will not forget what happened I am glad that I heard him out and that at minimum we’re on speaking terms. At least it’s a start.

Carnas : Well I can certainly understand where you’re coming from because I have been on both sides of it. I know what it feels like to be in the wrong and knows what it feels like to be betrayed. In regard to my friend I haven’t spoken to him in a little while but like I said before he knows how to get a hold of me if and when he wants to talk or needs anything.

In regard to feeling as though people don’t want you in their lives I have been there too. In some ways I am hesitant to reach out to people even though it has been many years since I’ve been around many of the people I went to school with or was friends with. I admit to being afraid to open the door for lack of a better term.

Although I have admitted my wrongs and have matured from my mistakes it just wouldn’t make me feel good to know that someone has heat with me for what ever reason. So for that reason I am accessible to anyone but I don’t reach out to too many people at the same time because of not knowing who I’m on good terms with etc. Simply put if someone reaches out to me I will hear them out but I don’t go where I’m not wanted.

In regard to my friend I went a long time without being open to the idea of hearing him out. When you are close with someone to the degree that you don’t acknowledge that person as a friend but as a brother and that person betrays your trust it can be very difficult to heal that wound.

It was something that I was clear to him when we briefly talked several years back before reconnecting recently. At the time he didn’t admit wrong doing but he did say that in his words that he understood why I was pissed off. Even though I didn’t accept it as accepting responsibility at the time, I will freely admit I was very angry with him and that in all likelihood overshadowed any rational thinking on my part.

As the years went on although I didn’t forget what happened between he and I the anger became less and less important to me. When things happen in life and you go through trials and tribulations it can give you a perspective on things. For me the last several years have been difficult and I have gone through many things that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. When we had that face to face conversation several months ago, he told me that he had gone through several things as well that I wouldn’t wish on anyone either.

I guess the thing I came to realize from all of this is that some of the struggles that I have been through over the years in essence gave me a fresh way of looking at things in a better way. I can only speak for myself but after talking to him face to face all this time later it made me feel as though he had gone through hard times and perhaps he didn’t have his priorities in order years ago when he made the decision he did which had us part company for several years.

Although I will not forget what happened I am glad that I heard him out and that at minimum we’re on speaking terms. At least it’s a start.

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@bvd1022:
The first one said those words.

The second one did things that no loving partner should ever have done (it would be far easier to say what he did right and I may as well have just bring you a blank piece of paper for that). In the end the tosswank walked out on me 2 days before I was due to leave for the funeral of a family member I had a lot of respect for, leaving me with the rent and the hassle of informing the landlord since his name was also on the rental agreement. On top of that he made false allegations against me and plagued my dad with crap like how the double bed was his when it wasn't. Even my dad was wanting to shove a boot up that boy's backside and he usually prefers to let his words do the talking.

I would warily reconcile a friendship with the first one but I don't have his contact details (he loses his phone a lot) so the ball's in his court should he want to.

The second one can go take a long walk off a short pier for all I care. I don't accept betrayal very well and dumping all that junk on me and my family is very much in the realms of betrayal. I may reconcile but it would take a lot of kissing of buttocks in order to not get me shoving my boots up his backside.
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The first one said those words.

The second one did things that no loving partner should ever have done (it would be far easier to say what he did right and I may as well have just bring you a blank piece of paper for that). In the end the tosswank walked out on me 2 days before I was due to leave for the funeral of a family member I had a lot of respect for, leaving me with the rent and the hassle of informing the landlord since his name was also on the rental agreement. On top of that he made false allegations against me and plagued my dad with crap like how the double bed was his when it wasn't. Even my dad was wanting to shove a boot up that boy's backside and he usually prefers to let his words do the talking.

I would warily reconcile a friendship with the first one but I don't have his contact details (he loses his phone a lot) so the ball's in his court should he want to.

The second one can go take a long walk off a short pier for all I care. I don't accept betrayal very well and dumping all that junk on me and my family is very much in the realms of betrayal. I may reconcile but it would take a lot of kissing of buttocks in order to not get me shoving my boots up his backside.
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Carnas : I understand where you’re coming from. Several years ago I lost my grandfather to cancer. He, my parents, and I all shared a house and for several months prior to losing him I opened our home up to a friend of mine who really had no place to go.

This friend of mine and I almost got together romantically before we took her in but once she was staying here for a few months I basically saw that she was more or less trying to milk as much as she could while staying with us instead of doing the smart thing which was first and foremost to save her money and to straighten herself out.

I had and still have guilt over the fact that by trying to help her by taking her in I kind of displaced my grandfather but he had told me before he passed that my heart was in the right place and that he didn’t hold any anger toward me for trying to help someone.

Without going too much into detail about her, she eventually had told us that she was going to be moving to a different state to stay with her sister. This was all fine and well with me so long as the place she was going to was stable and such. Well my friend unfortunately hung out with a lot of the wrong kind of people. The kind of people that were only around when they needed something especially money.

The week that my grandfather passed she decided to throw a “Going away party” for herself, rented a space at a restaurant, brought all the food and goodies, the whole nine yards. Unfortunately two days before her quote “Party” end quote my grandfather passed away.

I was very close to my grandfather and I took it very hard and it still bothers me several years later. Well, my friend took it personally that I didn’t have her go to the hospital with me the night that he died. Basically what I told her was because he was in intensive care that all that they would allow in there was family and that because she technically wasn’t family I didn’t want to make things more stressful than it already was for us.

Anyway after he passed she more or less didn’t really grasp the situation. She knew that he was gone but she didn’t understand why my parents and I really had no interest in anything other than obviously doing what needed to be done for my grandfather. She took it personally that we all declined to go to her “Party.”

Well, she didn’t move and shortly after my grandfather’s passing I arranged for her to go live with her father. I didn’t throw her out but I at least made sure she had somewhere to go. Well, it wasn’t long after she left my house that she was out of my life all together and cut any contact with me for a couple of years. Although she eventually reached out to me via social media I learned my lesson and even though I am polite and try to give her friendly advice, I keep my distance.

She was living with us for half a year. Not only did she not save anything and blow all her money but she never once offered to share costs or, buy groceries for the house or what have you. I wish her well but I won’t lie when I say that in a way I’m glad that we didn’t get together. Although I really tried to help her, I can’t forgive myself for putting my family, especially my grandfather in that position and I vowed to never put my family in that position again.

Carnas : I understand where you’re coming from. Several years ago I lost my grandfather to cancer. He, my parents, and I all shared a house and for several months prior to losing him I opened our home up to a friend of mine who really had no place to go.

This friend of mine and I almost got together romantically before we took her in but once she was staying here for a few months I basically saw that she was more or less trying to milk as much as she could while staying with us instead of doing the smart thing which was first and foremost to save her money and to straighten herself out.

I had and still have guilt over the fact that by trying to help her by taking her in I kind of displaced my grandfather but he had told me before he passed that my heart was in the right place and that he didn’t hold any anger toward me for trying to help someone.

Without going too much into detail about her, she eventually had told us that she was going to be moving to a different state to stay with her sister. This was all fine and well with me so long as the place she was going to was stable and such. Well my friend unfortunately hung out with a lot of the wrong kind of people. The kind of people that were only around when they needed something especially money.

The week that my grandfather passed she decided to throw a “Going away party” for herself, rented a space at a restaurant, brought all the food and goodies, the whole nine yards. Unfortunately two days before her quote “Party” end quote my grandfather passed away.

I was very close to my grandfather and I took it very hard and it still bothers me several years later. Well, my friend took it personally that I didn’t have her go to the hospital with me the night that he died. Basically what I told her was because he was in intensive care that all that they would allow in there was family and that because she technically wasn’t family I didn’t want to make things more stressful than it already was for us.

Anyway after he passed she more or less didn’t really grasp the situation. She knew that he was gone but she didn’t understand why my parents and I really had no interest in anything other than obviously doing what needed to be done for my grandfather. She took it personally that we all declined to go to her “Party.”

Well, she didn’t move and shortly after my grandfather’s passing I arranged for her to go live with her father. I didn’t throw her out but I at least made sure she had somewhere to go. Well, it wasn’t long after she left my house that she was out of my life all together and cut any contact with me for a couple of years. Although she eventually reached out to me via social media I learned my lesson and even though I am polite and try to give her friendly advice, I keep my distance.

She was living with us for half a year. Not only did she not save anything and blow all her money but she never once offered to share costs or, buy groceries for the house or what have you. I wish her well but I won’t lie when I say that in a way I’m glad that we didn’t get together. Although I really tried to help her, I can’t forgive myself for putting my family, especially my grandfather in that position and I vowed to never put my family in that position again.

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Well, whenever i get angry at someone who was my friend, i always end up reconciling with them. I am way too kind and forgiving when it comes to a lot of things and eventually it's going to come back to bite me in butt.
Well, whenever i get angry at someone who was my friend, i always end up reconciling with them. I am way too kind and forgiving when it comes to a lot of things and eventually it's going to come back to bite me in butt.
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I have been told that I am the most forgiving person on the planet in this regard. I'm friends with pretty much all of my exes... even the one that the rest of my friends want to kill to this day. That one wasn't easy, I will fully admit... seeing as I actually could have (and should have) had him thrown in prison for things that he did... but I was able to finally forgive and move on and though there is still a bit of awkwardness on his part we have repaired our friendship after a decade.
I have been told that I am the most forgiving person on the planet in this regard. I'm friends with pretty much all of my exes... even the one that the rest of my friends want to kill to this day. That one wasn't easy, I will fully admit... seeing as I actually could have (and should have) had him thrown in prison for things that he did... but I was able to finally forgive and move on and though there is still a bit of awkwardness on his part we have repaired our friendship after a decade.
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