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Which religion shapes the world; the best?

 
Which religion shapes the world; the best? Click on the one you think is true?
Islam
 
12.9%, 4 votes
Christianity
 
29.0%, 9 votes
Buddhism
 
3.2%, 1 vote
Sikhism
 
3.2%, 1 vote
Hinduism
 
0.0%, 0 vote
Judaism
 
3.2%, 1 vote
None
 
48.4%, 15 votes
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Mobouis1 : Religion hasn't given us anything good?

That is as close-minded as I've ever heard anyone on here.  You don't have to like religion, you don't have to support.  You can hate it and be an atheist and be anti-religion but to suggest it hasn't done any good is plain ignorant.  I'm not religious and I don't run around extolling the virtues of Christianity but, c'mon, you're kidding, right?

EDUCATION:

Christianity brought us mass education.  The printing press was invented as a method of quickly distributing religious texts and average people learned to read to study the Bible.  Education from Islam brought us all sorts of math.  Some of the best schools in the U.S are religious-based and free education we enjoy in the United States comes from a widespread belief that all people should be able to read and apply it to the Bible.

Without religion, you may not have the same level of education you do know.  Religion has certainly created a worldwide atmosphere of study and education.  Science may not be nearly as advanced as it is now with education.  In fact, much of science is supported by and encouraged by religion.  Islam mixes science and religion and without we may not have all the chemistry, geometry, geography, and algebra we do now.



CHARITY:

Think of all the non-profit corporations in the world based on religion?  You have groups like the YMCA, in 120 countries and serving 45 million people.  You have the Salvation Army.  You have groups all over the place that collect for the good of others.  The YMCA in my area feeds and clothes children that don't get anything at home.  Religion has always gone out of its way to provide for the needy.  The folks that collect money and supplies for victims of natural disasters, famine, and other problems are often religious and believe they're doing good for a bigger purpose.

PEACE: Deep down, the message of all religions is peace.  Jesus walked around and told people how nice it would be if no one fought.  Muhammad walked around and suggested people shouldn't go to wars with each and everyone should accept each other.  Buddha walked around (sat by his tree, I guess) and told people they should act better towards others.  If the main guys saying "Play Nice" to their millions upon millions of followers doesn't have an impact, I don't know what does.


Wars are caused by people.  Religious people fight wars because they're not following the main points of their religion.  Non-religious people fight wars too.

Was World War I or World War II fought over religion?  Was the United States' Civil War or Revolutionary War fought over religion?  How about Russians and Americans threatening to nuke each other in the 70s and 80s? 

Non-religious people are as dangerous as religious people.  Even both Gulf wars were fought oil, not God.  So those aren't based on religion.  The folks pointing guns at each other happen to be of different religions.  That doesn't mean that's the difference for them to kill each other.


Anyway, I"m sure you didn't read any of this and if you did, you did not take the time to consider it.  You're as close-minded as you claim religions are.  That's too bad.

Name me the bloodiest wars fought in the name of Gods.

Mobouis1 : Religion hasn't given us anything good?

That is as close-minded as I've ever heard anyone on here.  You don't have to like religion, you don't have to support.  You can hate it and be an atheist and be anti-religion but to suggest it hasn't done any good is plain ignorant.  I'm not religious and I don't run around extolling the virtues of Christianity but, c'mon, you're kidding, right?

EDUCATION:

Christianity brought us mass education.  The printing press was invented as a method of quickly distributing religious texts and average people learned to read to study the Bible.  Education from Islam brought us all sorts of math.  Some of the best schools in the U.S are religious-based and free education we enjoy in the United States comes from a widespread belief that all people should be able to read and apply it to the Bible.

Without religion, you may not have the same level of education you do know.  Religion has certainly created a worldwide atmosphere of study and education.  Science may not be nearly as advanced as it is now with education.  In fact, much of science is supported by and encouraged by religion.  Islam mixes science and religion and without we may not have all the chemistry, geometry, geography, and algebra we do now.



CHARITY:

Think of all the non-profit corporations in the world based on religion?  You have groups like the YMCA, in 120 countries and serving 45 million people.  You have the Salvation Army.  You have groups all over the place that collect for the good of others.  The YMCA in my area feeds and clothes children that don't get anything at home.  Religion has always gone out of its way to provide for the needy.  The folks that collect money and supplies for victims of natural disasters, famine, and other problems are often religious and believe they're doing good for a bigger purpose.

PEACE: Deep down, the message of all religions is peace.  Jesus walked around and told people how nice it would be if no one fought.  Muhammad walked around and suggested people shouldn't go to wars with each and everyone should accept each other.  Buddha walked around (sat by his tree, I guess) and told people they should act better towards others.  If the main guys saying "Play Nice" to their millions upon millions of followers doesn't have an impact, I don't know what does.


Wars are caused by people.  Religious people fight wars because they're not following the main points of their religion.  Non-religious people fight wars too.

Was World War I or World War II fought over religion?  Was the United States' Civil War or Revolutionary War fought over religion?  How about Russians and Americans threatening to nuke each other in the 70s and 80s? 

Non-religious people are as dangerous as religious people.  Even both Gulf wars were fought oil, not God.  So those aren't based on religion.  The folks pointing guns at each other happen to be of different religions.  That doesn't mean that's the difference for them to kill each other.


Anyway, I"m sure you didn't read any of this and if you did, you did not take the time to consider it.  You're as close-minded as you claim religions are.  That's too bad.

Name me the bloodiest wars fought in the name of Gods.
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warmaker : No, Its just the governments of the west are trying to make the world to an athiest world,
Labling Muslims terrorist, to take over the middle east as an zionic land.
Christians are doing nothing to help, im sure we would help.

warmaker : No, Its just the governments of the west are trying to make the world to an athiest world,
Labling Muslims terrorist, to take over the middle east as an zionic land.
Christians are doing nothing to help, im sure we would help.

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All religions convey the same basic cultural mores (don't kill, stealing is bad, be nice to people, etc)... so I think that all religions have had an equal impact in shaping the world for good and ill.

That doesn't fit with any of the voting choices.

I agree that kKlLmM is being a bit, well, biased... though for his benefit I will name historically the bloody wars of religion as being the Crusades, the Reconquista, and the civil war that created Pakistan out of India (they are still trying to find a way to nuke each other). Also all of the stuff with the IRA in Ireland (not all religious, but the Catholic vs Protestant thing is pretty big). But the wars fought over other issues far outnumber wars of religion in the modern era.

I'm not going to touch the Zionist comment since that is a different debate entirely.
All religions convey the same basic cultural mores (don't kill, stealing is bad, be nice to people, etc)... so I think that all religions have had an equal impact in shaping the world for good and ill.

That doesn't fit with any of the voting choices.

I agree that kKlLmM is being a bit, well, biased... though for his benefit I will name historically the bloody wars of religion as being the Crusades, the Reconquista, and the civil war that created Pakistan out of India (they are still trying to find a way to nuke each other). Also all of the stuff with the IRA in Ireland (not all religious, but the Catholic vs Protestant thing is pretty big). But the wars fought over other issues far outnumber wars of religion in the modern era.

I'm not going to touch the Zionist comment since that is a different debate entirely.
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Elara : sorry if i was biased.

But if Christianity helped with english

Islam helped with Maths & science sine they both go under the same technology.
& zions, theyre not helping.
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But if Christianity helped with english

Islam helped with Maths & science sine they both go under the same technology.
& zions, theyre not helping.
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kKlLmM : Honestly, I don't think that the religion is important in those things. Muslims developed algebra, but I don't think that Allah had anything to do with it. Just like the great European scientists like Newton or Galileo... they were Christians, but their faith had nothing to do with their discoveries or inventions.

One other thing I would like to point out, however, is the ignoring of the contributions of the pagan religions. Speaking in a purely religious sense, the Romans and Greeks alone gave us so much... the architectural designs they used in the construction of their temples are still used today by all cultures (domed roof, anyone?) And artwork... just look at all the art, the history and stories that come from the pagan world! There are cultural things, like some of our holiday traditions (jack-o-lanterns, Christmas trees, April Fool's, Valentine's Day, etc) Confucianism did give us the concepts of bureaucracy and standardized tests, though, so I am less happy about that.
kKlLmM : Honestly, I don't think that the religion is important in those things. Muslims developed algebra, but I don't think that Allah had anything to do with it. Just like the great European scientists like Newton or Galileo... they were Christians, but their faith had nothing to do with their discoveries or inventions.

One other thing I would like to point out, however, is the ignoring of the contributions of the pagan religions. Speaking in a purely religious sense, the Romans and Greeks alone gave us so much... the architectural designs they used in the construction of their temples are still used today by all cultures (domed roof, anyone?) And artwork... just look at all the art, the history and stories that come from the pagan world! There are cultural things, like some of our holiday traditions (jack-o-lanterns, Christmas trees, April Fool's, Valentine's Day, etc) Confucianism did give us the concepts of bureaucracy and standardized tests, though, so I am less happy about that.
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In stating Islam has done so much and Christianity hasn't, you are being biased.
The question was on the basis of peace, and i dont think any religion as done that, people do good deeds and acts because they have a good nature, there are atheists and religious peoples who seek peace. And there are atheists and religious people who would happily kill people who had different beliefs.
I think talking of charity's or innovations isnt really relevant to the topic of what faith is best for peace, more which is best for innovation. I could list Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists, whites, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, that have done great acts of peace, or great acts of science. Its not because of there faith that they have done good things, its because of there character. I wouldn't claim an atheist was nice and sharing based on rejecting god. And really i dont think being religious means you will be nice either. Like wise it dosent mean you will be bad.
Its too common for people to state this group is good, that bad. This one smart, this one dumb. You know what that is? A generalisation. stereotyping. An attempt to stigmatize. people are individuals, to claim that one group, in the vastness of earths history, faiths, wars, achievements etc, are down to only one factor, that in the grand scheme of things, has been absent for most of our history, that is illogical.

Its apparent to everyone that I dont think faith makes for peace or equality.
What people also assume is I fell the reverse is true, that having faith is bad.

There are people that will use faith or science, for both good or bad. the fact they know the science, or they know the faith, does not mean that they will definitely go one way over the other.

The crusades.
The jihads.
The partition of India and Pakistan.
The defeat of the Israelite's.
The modern crimes committed by Israel

The Egyptian uprising, where Christians and Muslims united together.
Turkey, where the first truly sectarian Muslim country emerged, in collaboration with Europe.
The various faith charity's.

Faith is what you make it as an individual. Nothing more, nothing less. People make too much of it, and death ensues.

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Or cement, that was lost for years after there collapse.
Likewise there was a greek that made a mechanised star chart that could predict the positions of the stars and eclipse etc, that was pretty amassing.

Im suitbaly impressed you knew about the whole indian subcontinent fiasco too, I didnt realise you had done research in that area.
Bangladesh is relevant in the topic too, the fact they shared the same faith didnt mean peace.
In stating Islam has done so much and Christianity hasn't, you are being biased.
The question was on the basis of peace, and i dont think any religion as done that, people do good deeds and acts because they have a good nature, there are atheists and religious peoples who seek peace. And there are atheists and religious people who would happily kill people who had different beliefs.
I think talking of charity's or innovations isnt really relevant to the topic of what faith is best for peace, more which is best for innovation. I could list Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists, whites, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, that have done great acts of peace, or great acts of science. Its not because of there faith that they have done good things, its because of there character. I wouldn't claim an atheist was nice and sharing based on rejecting god. And really i dont think being religious means you will be nice either. Like wise it dosent mean you will be bad.
Its too common for people to state this group is good, that bad. This one smart, this one dumb. You know what that is? A generalisation. stereotyping. An attempt to stigmatize. people are individuals, to claim that one group, in the vastness of earths history, faiths, wars, achievements etc, are down to only one factor, that in the grand scheme of things, has been absent for most of our history, that is illogical.

Its apparent to everyone that I dont think faith makes for peace or equality.
What people also assume is I fell the reverse is true, that having faith is bad.

There are people that will use faith or science, for both good or bad. the fact they know the science, or they know the faith, does not mean that they will definitely go one way over the other.

The crusades.
The jihads.
The partition of India and Pakistan.
The defeat of the Israelite's.
The modern crimes committed by Israel

The Egyptian uprising, where Christians and Muslims united together.
Turkey, where the first truly sectarian Muslim country emerged, in collaboration with Europe.
The various faith charity's.

Faith is what you make it as an individual. Nothing more, nothing less. People make too much of it, and death ensues.

Elara :
Or cement, that was lost for years after there collapse.
Likewise there was a greek that made a mechanised star chart that could predict the positions of the stars and eclipse etc, that was pretty amassing.

Im suitbaly impressed you knew about the whole indian subcontinent fiasco too, I didnt realise you had done research in that area.
Bangladesh is relevant in the topic too, the fact they shared the same faith didnt mean peace.
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thenumberone : You seriously need to do some research, and find the meaninof '  jihad' 
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I would have to say christianity because most major nations and empires such as the roman and british both had christianity at their core so it most have had a large influence but I am bias and we focused on the western world in history.
I would have to say christianity because most major nations and empires such as the roman and british both had christianity at their core so it most have had a large influence but I am bias and we focused on the western world in history.
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After reading this topic I have to agree upon writing what I intended even more: none.
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Of course I voted Christianity I grew up with Christianity 
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Care to elaborate? As in answering the question,not only telling which religion you were brought up with. What were for You the amazing things in the history of human race that christianity shaped. And to make it a bit chalenging, no bible stories!
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Care to elaborate? As in answering the question,not only telling which religion you were brought up with. What were for You the amazing things in the history of human race that christianity shaped. And to make it a bit chalenging, no bible stories!
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ant123ant : fair enough :/
what about mugual empire, & ottoman empire, and khorasan empire which destroyed the romans.
ant123ant : fair enough :/
what about mugual empire, & ottoman empire, and khorasan empire which destroyed the romans.
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If Islam and Christianity deserve a lot of credit, I don't see how the answer couldn't be, although indirectly, Judaism. Without Judaism there would be no Christianity or Islam. That combined with the fact that it's already a very influential religion that's given the world some of the most brilliant scientists and artists is what makes it earn my vote.
If Islam and Christianity deserve a lot of credit, I don't see how the answer couldn't be, although indirectly, Judaism. Without Judaism there would be no Christianity or Islam. That combined with the fact that it's already a very influential religion that's given the world some of the most brilliant scientists and artists is what makes it earn my vote.
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Religious extremists cause the stereotype that religion is bad.
Why should a group be judged on the small amount of people in a large group.
Religious extremists cause the stereotype that religion is bad.
Why should a group be judged on the small amount of people in a large group.
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research the real meaning of jihad. The partition of India & pak was because of the christian british invasion.
trust Islam is innocent
research the real meaning of jihad. The partition of India & pak was because of the christian british invasion.
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soxfan849 : Can you keep a close eye on this thread please....  Mainly due to the fact the creator seems to be merely arguing with all those that think differently to him.... 

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Yeah, I've been watching for something serious enough since the whole "Isra-hell" thing, but I'll even add this thread to my favorites.
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Yeah, I've been watching for something serious enough since the whole "Isra-hell" thing, but I'll even add this thread to my favorites.
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