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10-12-12 11:43 PM
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As long as a call is consistent throughout the game, its alright. Also, the game is too slow already, so I do not support this idea. Also, the game is too slow already, so I do not support this idea. |
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Damn so many Yankees haters wow.I grew up a Yankees fan living in ny I don't care how many time they been and won WS they still my choice to go all the way.I wouldn't mind seeing teams we don't see much in rounds but I wouldn't never want my Yankees to lose sorry. |
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10-13-12 12:14 AM
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legacyme3 : I always found baseball umps to be arrogant. They are the law and and infallible and anyone who disagrees can just be thrown out. It's stupid. They're human and make mistakes but they're too power hungry to allow a system to check those mistakes. They'll fight it every step of the way.
As much as I don't care for football, I find it to be the one sport that gets officiating right. Coaches have the right to challenge plays they think were called wrong. It's limited to like 2 a game or something so it doesn't get out of hand and slow the game down too much... and if they're actually right both times, they get awarded a 3rd attempt because they're not just BSing in hopes of getting a call changed. They also have automatic reviews in certain situations that don't consume challenges. Baseball would definitely benefit from some sort of similar system where Managers can challenge calls and have them reviewed. Maybe some of the blown calls in the playoffs won't destroy a team's chances so much. As much as I don't care for football, I find it to be the one sport that gets officiating right. Coaches have the right to challenge plays they think were called wrong. It's limited to like 2 a game or something so it doesn't get out of hand and slow the game down too much... and if they're actually right both times, they get awarded a 3rd attempt because they're not just BSing in hopes of getting a call changed. They also have automatic reviews in certain situations that don't consume challenges. Baseball would definitely benefit from some sort of similar system where Managers can challenge calls and have them reviewed. Maybe some of the blown calls in the playoffs won't destroy a team's chances so much. |
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10-13-12 12:18 AM
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Yeah, I hear you out. Football gets it right, and I like their challenge system. A long time ago, I proposed such an idea in a closed group, just to see what people think. It's silly. They keep arguing that it would lengthen games. Who cares if the game is like 20 minutes longer? I'd rather the right team wins. ----- Also, apologies to anyone who had to read that tirade. I'm just beginning to be a little miffed that these calls always seem to go in the Cardinals favor and never against them lol. I know it's probably just coincidence, but it's still pretty freaking silly. The luckiest team in baseball history. (I'll also probably still watch, but I'm not rooting for any of the teams anymore, no rooting interest in any of the four left.) Yeah, I hear you out. Football gets it right, and I like their challenge system. A long time ago, I proposed such an idea in a closed group, just to see what people think. It's silly. They keep arguing that it would lengthen games. Who cares if the game is like 20 minutes longer? I'd rather the right team wins. ----- Also, apologies to anyone who had to read that tirade. I'm just beginning to be a little miffed that these calls always seem to go in the Cardinals favor and never against them lol. I know it's probably just coincidence, but it's still pretty freaking silly. The luckiest team in baseball history. (I'll also probably still watch, but I'm not rooting for any of the teams anymore, no rooting interest in any of the four left.) |
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10-13-12 08:47 AM
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Well congradulations to the Yankees and the Cardinals (didn't see the Cards game but wow coming from 6 down to win the game). It will be interesting to see the Yankees vs Tigers game (particularly C.C. vs Verlander) and if the Yankees batters (Ganderson, Cano, A-Rod, Tixera) can get some hits against the Tigers. I'm starting to like San Fransisco's chances at making the Word Series. Well congradulations to the Yankees and the Cardinals (didn't see the Cards game but wow coming from 6 down to win the game). It will be interesting to see the Yankees vs Tigers game (particularly C.C. vs Verlander) and if the Yankees batters (Ganderson, Cano, A-Rod, Tixera) can get some hits against the Tigers. I'm starting to like San Fransisco's chances at making the Word Series. |
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10-13-12 11:49 PM
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I'll root for the Tigers just because I dun wanna see the Yankees win >.>
But either way, I'm hoping the Giants continue to surprise and get to the WS again. I'm just happen they've done as well as they've done in the playoffs, considering. But either way, I'm hoping the Giants continue to surprise and get to the WS again. I'm just happen they've done as well as they've done in the playoffs, considering. |
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10-15-12 10:33 PM
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Giant Tiger for the World Series lol. I like how San Fran pitched in this game 2, but it is a long series. Although Detroit is up 2-0 and have Verlander pitching in game 3. Which seems to be a difficult uphill climb for the Yankees, assuming that Verlander is his usual self. I like how San Fran pitched in this game 2, but it is a long series. Although Detroit is up 2-0 and have Verlander pitching in game 3. Which seems to be a difficult uphill climb for the Yankees, assuming that Verlander is his usual self. |
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10-16-12 12:51 AM
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Even though the Giants lost game 1, I think they played one heck of a game. I remember I was watching with a friend and at this point, the Cards were up 4-0 in the 4th... he was like "Giants can't win this game now because they don't have enough offense to come back." I told him that they could score 4 runs. Then they get the 2-run homer to make it 6-0 and he says, "Okay... I'll give you 4, but not 6. They're officially done." We both thought it was funny that the Giants scored exactly 4 runs the following half-inning and nothing more for the rest of the game.
That bullpen is amazing, though. Just think... if the starters weren't pitching like crap all year, the Giants would be unstoppable considering how well their relief pitching has been. It's gonna be a tight series... but seeing them tie it up in game 2, I think Giants still have a chance to squeak this one out. I heard they're considering putting Lincecum back in the rotation for a game 4 start. I really think they should. He's been solid this postseason. Certainly better than most of the starters they actually went with. I'm also glad to see the Tigers take both of the first two games... but they can't let up now. The Yankees have a tendency of beating you into the ground when you think you're in a good position against them. That bullpen is amazing, though. Just think... if the starters weren't pitching like crap all year, the Giants would be unstoppable considering how well their relief pitching has been. It's gonna be a tight series... but seeing them tie it up in game 2, I think Giants still have a chance to squeak this one out. I heard they're considering putting Lincecum back in the rotation for a game 4 start. I really think they should. He's been solid this postseason. Certainly better than most of the starters they actually went with. I'm also glad to see the Tigers take both of the first two games... but they can't let up now. The Yankees have a tendency of beating you into the ground when you think you're in a good position against them. |
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10-16-12 01:01 AM
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I think calling them unstoppable is a little much. I think they were easily the third best team in the NL, but you can't say "well if the starters pitched better..." because that applies to all teams really. I mean here's an example. If the Orioles offense was more powerful, they would have been near unstoppable. If the Nationals had Stephen Strasburg, and a little better relief pitching, they would have crushed the Cardinals. It's nice to say, but that's all they are, ifs. Now, with that aside... I think the Giants are probably the best remaining team in the playoffs. I would have said Yankees had the slight edge, but the loss of Derek Jeter takes away their chances of even making the World Series, let alone winning it. The Tigers, as we've seen have trouble closing games out, and the Cardinals are just a magic show. In all truth, the only truly good team that isn't crippled is the Giants. Which I think is a little silly. I haven't watched the CS, and I'm not sure if I'll watch the World Series yet. It really depends what else is on TV, and who is in it. I'm coming around to the idea of a Giants-Tigers series... but truthfully none of the remaining teams are really those I want to watch. I almost wonder if I want to see Yankees-Giants, just because it's fun to root against the Yankees. I think calling them unstoppable is a little much. I think they were easily the third best team in the NL, but you can't say "well if the starters pitched better..." because that applies to all teams really. I mean here's an example. If the Orioles offense was more powerful, they would have been near unstoppable. If the Nationals had Stephen Strasburg, and a little better relief pitching, they would have crushed the Cardinals. It's nice to say, but that's all they are, ifs. Now, with that aside... I think the Giants are probably the best remaining team in the playoffs. I would have said Yankees had the slight edge, but the loss of Derek Jeter takes away their chances of even making the World Series, let alone winning it. The Tigers, as we've seen have trouble closing games out, and the Cardinals are just a magic show. In all truth, the only truly good team that isn't crippled is the Giants. Which I think is a little silly. I haven't watched the CS, and I'm not sure if I'll watch the World Series yet. It really depends what else is on TV, and who is in it. I'm coming around to the idea of a Giants-Tigers series... but truthfully none of the remaining teams are really those I want to watch. I almost wonder if I want to see Yankees-Giants, just because it's fun to root against the Yankees. |
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10-16-12 02:05 AM
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legacyme3 : Well I more meant that if the Giants pitching was consistent all the way through, they would be winning a lot easier. It's all in relief, but if their starters got it together, they would be even more impressive. They're winning as it is in spite of their SP troubles... and it's not like they don't have talent in that starting rotation... they just have a couple of guys who are massively under-performing.
Your examples are overkill. You might as well be saying "if they had a different team, they'd be better". I'll give you Strassburg for the Nats, but they still need the relief pitching as well. These are teams that I feel just didn't have enough. When I look at how well the Giants are doing in spite of their SP problems, I have to think that they wouldn't even struggle to win in the postseason with their starters pitching to their abilities. Now, mind you the Giants wouldn't be the perfect team even with that. Their offense isn't the best in the NL, much less MLB. But I'm not going to say that they need more offensive power as well because then it just gets silly. I'm only looking for one minor change that's not even a modification of the team itself... it's just existing players playing the way they should. That's all they need to definitively take themselves to the top. Unless that change happens, they're gonna have a real tough time. Your examples are overkill. You might as well be saying "if they had a different team, they'd be better". I'll give you Strassburg for the Nats, but they still need the relief pitching as well. These are teams that I feel just didn't have enough. When I look at how well the Giants are doing in spite of their SP problems, I have to think that they wouldn't even struggle to win in the postseason with their starters pitching to their abilities. Now, mind you the Giants wouldn't be the perfect team even with that. Their offense isn't the best in the NL, much less MLB. But I'm not going to say that they need more offensive power as well because then it just gets silly. I'm only looking for one minor change that's not even a modification of the team itself... it's just existing players playing the way they should. That's all they need to definitively take themselves to the top. Unless that change happens, they're gonna have a real tough time. |
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10-16-12 05:37 AM
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It's overkill yes, that was my point. I think people overestimate teams they like, which is fine. The reason my team missed the playoffs was starting pitching. If they had even just Giants level pitching they would have likely made the playoffs, or been close. My point is, you can't really point out what your team doesn't have, and then apply that to make them a better team, that's just not how it works And again, your argument goes both ways. Example. Jon Lester of the Boston Red Sox not pitching like he should be. He's a better pitcher than he had shown this season, and I attribute underperformance as a key reason his team was unsuccessful. And on the topic of underperforming players, we can look at pretty much every player on the Yankees within the realm of this post season. Well, except the pitching. That's been pretty good. It's overkill yes, that was my point. I think people overestimate teams they like, which is fine. The reason my team missed the playoffs was starting pitching. If they had even just Giants level pitching they would have likely made the playoffs, or been close. My point is, you can't really point out what your team doesn't have, and then apply that to make them a better team, that's just not how it works And again, your argument goes both ways. Example. Jon Lester of the Boston Red Sox not pitching like he should be. He's a better pitcher than he had shown this season, and I attribute underperformance as a key reason his team was unsuccessful. And on the topic of underperforming players, we can look at pretty much every player on the Yankees within the realm of this post season. Well, except the pitching. That's been pretty good. |
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I think the Yankees will win at least 1 game (not tonights Game 3, but the game C.C will pitch in). That said it wouldn't effect the outcome, the Tigers will end up in the World Series. Really interested in how the Giants-Cardinals series will go. I think the Giants match up better against the Tigers then the Cardinals (just my opinion). I think the Yankees will win at least 1 game (not tonights Game 3, but the game C.C will pitch in). That said it wouldn't effect the outcome, the Tigers will end up in the World Series. Really interested in how the Giants-Cardinals series will go. I think the Giants match up better against the Tigers then the Cardinals (just my opinion). |
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I would like the Tigers, first, not to blow it like they almost did last series, and second, if the first part goes well, face the Giants. Love the ballpark, and I can't stand the Cardinals. It just seems unfair that they are in it the one year that there is two wild card teams. But another part is, I have never liked them for some reason. Either one will be a tough match up. |
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Oldschool41 : I actually disagree with that last bit. I think the Cardinals having a stronger offense means they would be better able to take advantage of the Tigers' pen. I could see them often coming back to win games late against Detroit whereas San Fran pretty much needs to get a lead early to win. |
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If meh Yankees could finally pull it together and hit like they are supposed to..then the series will have quite a nice turn around Moral of the Story: Come on Yankees! Hit the ball! Moral of the Story: Come on Yankees! Hit the ball! |
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Well Cano ended his 0-29 record post season at bat slump. Does this mean he will be back to normal? We will see, since the game was postponed last night. Even if Cano gets back to his hitting ways, there is still the rest of the team (minus Ichiro) who is also playing poorly. Also, the Yankees have no Jeter for the rest of the post season. I can't see the Yankees winning more than two games this series. Also, apparently, since the postponed game, Sabathia likely won't be pitching game 7 if it happens to go that far. This is what I heard from the commentators. I guess the same would go for Verlander possibly. Cardinals are up 2-1 in the series now, but I see this one going to 6 or 7 games. It is a very back and forth series that could really go either way. Unfortunately though, I see the Cardinals coming through in the end. I hope Detroit can figure out how to handle the late innings, or they will be burned badly by whoever they face in their upcoming games. Valverde is likely out for the series, and I also can't see them putting Coke out there to close again either. Maybe Dotel would be the best solution. Ironically, he got traded to the Cardinals last year, so the Cardinals are familiar with his stuff. This can prove to be a dangerous match up for the Tigers again. Big decisions to be made still. Cardinals are up 2-1 in the series now, but I see this one going to 6 or 7 games. It is a very back and forth series that could really go either way. Unfortunately though, I see the Cardinals coming through in the end. I hope Detroit can figure out how to handle the late innings, or they will be burned badly by whoever they face in their upcoming games. Valverde is likely out for the series, and I also can't see them putting Coke out there to close again either. Maybe Dotel would be the best solution. Ironically, he got traded to the Cardinals last year, so the Cardinals are familiar with his stuff. This can prove to be a dangerous match up for the Tigers again. Big decisions to be made still. |
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Well, the Giants win to live another day. Zito pitched a good game, and got some help from some great plays from the fielders. Congrats to them, but still, whoever faces the Tigers will not have it easy with this starting pitching. Well, the Giants win to live another day. Zito pitched a good game, and got some help from some great plays from the fielders. Congrats to them, but still, whoever faces the Tigers will not have it easy with this starting pitching. |
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10-20-12 12:45 AM
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The Giants are the masters of surprise this post-season. Never let your guard down around these guys. I knew this was gonna be a struggle from the get-go, but I still keep hoping they hang on. I don't foresee them being able to do this to Detroit even if they DO somehow make it to the WS... but it's a fun run to watch anyway.
I still do believe the Giants are capable of beating the Cardinals. When a starter actually performs, this becomes very clear. Zito is very much NOT the one I would have expected to step up and have a good start this post-season... but I'll take what I can get. Vogelsong for Game 6 sounds very promising. I expected this to be a 7-game series when it first started and I'm more believing this now. Game 5 was the best chance for the Cardinals to win the series and now the momentum might have shifted in San Fran's favor. It depends on whether or not Vogelsong can put together another quality performance and what Matt Cain can muster up the following game. Go Giants! I still do believe the Giants are capable of beating the Cardinals. When a starter actually performs, this becomes very clear. Zito is very much NOT the one I would have expected to step up and have a good start this post-season... but I'll take what I can get. Vogelsong for Game 6 sounds very promising. I expected this to be a 7-game series when it first started and I'm more believing this now. Game 5 was the best chance for the Cardinals to win the series and now the momentum might have shifted in San Fran's favor. It depends on whether or not Vogelsong can put together another quality performance and what Matt Cain can muster up the following game. Go Giants! |
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10-20-12 12:57 AM
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I feel like people underestimate Zito. It's true his contract is terrible. But he's not as bad as people seem to think he is. Yeah, his park helps him a little, but he's pretty consistent for the most part. This season, when he's had a bad start, he follows it up with a generally decent one. I actually had him for a deep fantasy league, and on more than one occasion, I felt safe relying on him against certain matchups. The past few years, Barry has been pretty good against the Cardinals. I don't think anyone expected 7+ innings of shutout baseball, but I also think people should have expected a very solid start out of him this time around. At any rate, it was a joy to watch him pitch today. I like Barry and I want him to succeed, especially since he's getting paid a ton to do so. Sometimes it's hard remembering Zito was once a prized talent as a free agent. I feel like people underestimate Zito. It's true his contract is terrible. But he's not as bad as people seem to think he is. Yeah, his park helps him a little, but he's pretty consistent for the most part. This season, when he's had a bad start, he follows it up with a generally decent one. I actually had him for a deep fantasy league, and on more than one occasion, I felt safe relying on him against certain matchups. The past few years, Barry has been pretty good against the Cardinals. I don't think anyone expected 7+ innings of shutout baseball, but I also think people should have expected a very solid start out of him this time around. At any rate, it was a joy to watch him pitch today. I like Barry and I want him to succeed, especially since he's getting paid a ton to do so. Sometimes it's hard remembering Zito was once a prized talent as a free agent. |
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Looking like San Fran is going to force a game seven. Would be a must watch game to see who faces Detriot. Got to admit San Fran caught fire at the right moment (similar to the Reds during the regular season). Looking like San Fran is going to force a game seven. Would be a must watch game to see who faces Detriot. Got to admit San Fran caught fire at the right moment (similar to the Reds during the regular season). |
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