To be honest to this question i really don't think we as teens should care since they both aren't going to do anything in our benefits. But if i would say i would most likely say Romney i guess

I'd have to say Obama and i haven't been paying close to whats been going on in the political field but from what I've seen Romney speak and such, he just doesn't sound like he knows whats going on and enjoys to bash Obama. I've watched the debate a few days ago and Romney looked like he didn't want to be there he was very cooled and I'm sure it's a tough game but the way he came across i didn't like, i don't want someone i can't relate to, to try "fix" things.

mr.keys : Yeah since you can't vote; if you can't vote the politicans are not going to help you (unless your in college then you care about your tuition bill.)

Crazy Li : I actually never complain, I know that things are the way they are and right now, no one has been able to change much. Yes sometimes we get good President's that run in office. But I just don't think mankind if a permanent solution. They're just temporary. Because we need some kind of order right now.

SunflowerGaming : People may only provide temporary answers at best... but life is only a temporary thing anyway. I always believed you should make the most of your short time on Earth so long as you don't negatively impact others while doing so.

Anyway, if you take the mentality that you are, but don't complain about the outcome, I have no problem with your way of doing things. My posts are not meant to call your decisions wrong. Even if I might disagree with some of your views, I respect that you seem to understand the results of your actions (or lack thereof) and don't make excuses. I have no complaints for you.

I'm only 15, what I think doesn't matter, but Obama has not only broken countless promises even when he could pass whatever he wanted in his first two years, but he can't talk about his record in a good way without lying. Romney is not the best choice either, but right now, anyone except Obama. That's just my opinion,

 So I have read all of the posts in the debate so far, and I have noticed that people have been saying Obama hasn't followed through with promises.
  
Well without being mean I want to let you all know that obama cant just wave his hand and things get done...no president can. In our       government to get a law passed.it has to go through congress.
  
Well even if the president with all his power wants to get something passed his will doesn't supersede that of congress.

Which has been obama's trouble with his promises. The things he has tried to do to follow through congress has said well let's tell him no. 
and then obama has to move on and his law or what ever doesn't go into effect.
So if you plan on not voting for obama because he doesn't keep promises don't let that be a factor because it's not really his fault. 
 
And on that note I don't plan on voting obama. Or Romney. I plan on voting for myself. Granted I know I'm not gonna win but atleast that way I can say I did my civic duty and that I didn't vote for someone I think is a complete jackhole.

Also people who are complaining about taxes. And voting because someone says they will lower taxes. That is also a bad idea because taxes run alot of stuff in the us that wouldn't be possible without them, so I guess I'm trying to say don't buy into the lower taxes bit. It's a bad idea because it doesn't work and it's just bad for the us.

and one last note the US is a big mess it is difficult for one man to clean it up, and it's a big mess that has been accumulating for a long time it will take more than 4 years to clean it up.

In my opinion it wont ever be cleaned up the US is spiraling down the tubes and pretty quickly.

*Disclaimer I do love America even though I don't like certain things about it.*

patar4097 :
You clearly havent paid much attention or you'd know hes had a lot of difficulty passing new legislation.

Over the course of the last few years, the majority of prominent Republicans have moved farther to the right. Their beliefs and positions are (or at least should only be) supported by a minority in this country. I am not a among the richest citizens. I would like the separation of church and state to not be challenged. Most importantly, I do not want the progress that has been made during Obama's term to be undone by an administration that plans to revert to the same low-regulation and un-wise spending of the Bush administration that served as the main catalyst to the recession. 

I think this could be the most important election since...the last one to be honest. I agree with Obama on a large number of issues. I also understand that asking for a fixed economy in one term is an unrealistic expectation (for any president). Obama has put us on the right track. Things could be much better, but considering how divisive politicians are these days and how hard it is to get anything done with the other party, it should come as no surprise that things like the stimulus did not do as much as we would have liked. 

Ignorance is not bliss for the rest of us. If you plan on voting and don't know what the candidates positions and records are, please look into it. 

thenumberone : He can't pass new legislation, because whatever he wants to pass is completely stupid. Also, he could have passed the keystone pipeline, gave money to solindra, and don't make me bring up Obamacare! And he has raised taxes on the "middle class". There is almost nothing good at all to say about this presidency. I want to ask you, thenumberone, is the country in a better place now than it was when Obama took office?

patar4097 :
You think its stupid, that dosent make it so. He could have passed the pipeline but there were viable objections to its planned route, it hasn't been rejected, just the current draft, if they re route it they can re apply.
Oil has caused enough damage, it needs to be taken more seriously and not automatically given the green light.
Yes he financed renewable energy, and due to price changes it became un-economically viable, there are plenty of good green energy company out there, that disastrous failure should highlight how far behind america is on green energy. or do you think oil will last for ever?There's a magical self creating fountain under the earth.
If you want to discuss wasted money how about the previous administrations military spending on stuff that was never used and is doomed to be decommissioned?
Given romney has a very murky financial history your complaints about "solyndra" are highly ironic.
As soon as i see Obamacare that says it all. Its an uncreative tag used by sheep.
Oh my god, raising taxes on the middle class, how will they survive, disaster, theyly be down to there last 3 or 4 hundred thousand dollars, quick, to the soup kitchens.
And how many of them have made there fortunes on the backs of those below them?
Its the irony of capitalism.
A man who owns a factory gets millions of dollars, yet all the work is done by the employees, the materials ordered by employees, the products delivered by employees, sold on by employees. At what stage do they do anything that actually constitutes justifiable levels of work for such a return. Obviously wealth is driven by those wanting more, so that's always going to have to be the case, but they can easily afford more taxes to improve the lot of those who actually earn them there money.
There is far too much greed in the world, evidently a great deal in america because so many make the 'points' you make.
Its ironic how those same individuals claim to be good Christians. The bible has a clear stance on these things.

Your closing question.
Factoring in the recession?no. But of course unless you can give evidence he actually caused this recession(somehow) then its doomed to the conclusion any president would currently be facing this problem. If it had been any other president going through it, i would say america would have been worse off. If you don't want to take the pessimist road then i supose you can call that better off. Personally I wouldn't want any of these candidates, past or present, in power over here.

GuardianZack :
Who was the last president you would say had that skill?

thenumberone : He said no to the pipeline! And to your final question, don't you know what Reagan did? A conservative by the way, who took over in a economy similar to this, and he did very well. He did basically the opposite of what Obama's doing. The rest of the stuff you said, is stuff that is something, that we are so far away on, there's no point debating, except for the thing you said about taxes on the "middle class". Obama has said countless time that there would be no tax increase on them.And on energy, we need to get thinking about this, but we don't have to give millions of dollars on it. But for gas, we have plenty of oil for now in America.

patar4097 :
I read the article. The government said clearly they can submit a revised plan. If they chose to do so, perhaps it will pass.
Reagan?that man was a complete fruit cake. The country always does well when its steaming ahead with wars and military expansion. Why not complain about the money flushed down the toilet on those things?
Perhaps he did state that he wouldnt increase tax, but
1.he didnt know there was a recession coming and
2.hes a politician. EVERY politician lies.
So if you dont spend money on renewable investigation who will? The oil companys are in no hurry. The oil count is like a clock, theres no point waiting till the last minute, thats a surefire disaster.
Obama funded solyndra without paying a great deal of attention to the workings or placing any real constraints on the investments. Stupid? Certainly. But nothing is a failure unless you dont learn from it. It needs to be carried forward, and tax on energy should be emision based, resulting in companys at least attempting to reduce them, and at best in persuing green alternatives. Thats the problem, the american economy is dominated in so many sectors by huge companys with there foot in government that for a capitalist economy, there is really very little choice.

Much like the us election system.

thenumberone : First, Reagan was one of the best presidents ever. Second, he knew that
the recession was coming. He said that it was. And of course every
politician lies. So does everyone else. He has just lied more than
anyone else. On energy, I'm not saying to wait until the last minute,
but the tax on energy should not be based on emissions, because,
unfortunately, the energy efficient things, like solar, cannot be used
in enough ways.Coal and oil can't be replaced now. Who knows how long it would take until that is possible to use solar for things in a more efficient way than those two. And you do notice that the big businesses are the ones that are providing most of the jobs? The more money they have, the more they will invest in their business, and if not, will pay more taxes. But if the do, then that will create more jobs.

thenumberone : I would have to go with Kennedy or Roosevelt. The US was in the best shape that it has been in for quite awhile during their presidencies.

GuardianZack : the country was in best shape when clinton was in office and when his presidency ended. zero debt best economy in the world at the time and various other things.

patar4097 : lied more than anyone else is a little hard to justify.
And Reagan did a lot under the table, like supporting groups who were massacring civilians.
On power, how will renewables improve if no investment is made?
Of course they hire the most people. As i stated, its neccessary.
But they only invest to make money. If theyre taxed more, they will still invest.
GuardianZack : Roosevelt, good call. He'd be called a communist nowadays...

rbaranishyn : Clinton, now theres a liar like no other, every truth contained a lie. Is deception really a good means of running a government?