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Is it wrong to be a homosexual?
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I don't really care.....
 
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Its a right!
 
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Personally I don't really care, it don't bother me at all... I ain't losing any sleep over it.
Personally I don't really care, it don't bother me at all... I ain't losing any sleep over it.
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I don't have issues with them. They're okay with my religion, and I find that when people say stuff about them because of Christianity and whatnot annoying, because.. well.. that doesn't make too much sense. You're born with your sexuality. Just accept it. What would you all say if I told you I was a lesbian? would you give me a hard time like you have about most homosexuals, even after knowing me for as long as you have?
I don't have issues with them. They're okay with my religion, and I find that when people say stuff about them because of Christianity and whatnot annoying, because.. well.. that doesn't make too much sense. You're born with your sexuality. Just accept it. What would you all say if I told you I was a lesbian? would you give me a hard time like you have about most homosexuals, even after knowing me for as long as you have?
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Like I said I wouldn't have a problem with it.. but then again I'm not a huge religion buff..
Like I said I wouldn't have a problem with it.. but then again I'm not a huge religion buff..
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Everyone knows my answer and I am finished with this thread
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No no no no NO, its all wrong, thats what I gotta say about it so far unless some one says somthin dumb...
No no no no NO, its all wrong, thats what I gotta say about it so far unless some one says somthin dumb...
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Lesbians I don't find nasty, I don't find it nasty at all but gay guys I don't even want to think about that much less see it, but either way its wrong.
Lesbians I don't find nasty, I don't find it nasty at all but gay guys I don't even want to think about that much less see it, but either way its wrong.
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Are you saying, though, that you have no right to be one?

I don't think that's true. Everyone has the right to do anything in reality. But they also have to face consequences.
Are you saying, though, that you have no right to be one?

I don't think that's true. Everyone has the right to do anything in reality. But they also have to face consequences.
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Very true Lowell, everyone has the right, but everyone must face the consequence.
Very true Lowell, everyone has the right, but everyone must face the consequence.
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I rarely concern myself with someone's sexuality unless I'm interested in having sex with them, which means they will have the appropiate sexuality. I don't think this has anything to do with religion or moral issues. The problem, I believe, is when people claim homosexuality is wrong because of religion or moral issues when in fact the people are made uncomfortable by imagining homosexual sex. This makes the solution ridiculously simple, since gay people won't stop being gay, quit imagining them having sex.
I rarely concern myself with someone's sexuality unless I'm interested in having sex with them, which means they will have the appropiate sexuality. I don't think this has anything to do with religion or moral issues. The problem, I believe, is when people claim homosexuality is wrong because of religion or moral issues when in fact the people are made uncomfortable by imagining homosexual sex. This makes the solution ridiculously simple, since gay people won't stop being gay, quit imagining them having sex.
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Seconded. People seem to get so angry with it, but they're only that angry because they keep imagining gay sex. Haha.
Seconded. People seem to get so angry with it, but they're only that angry because they keep imagining gay sex. Haha.
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Basicly being gay is wrong. Its against why we were put here on this planet.
Basicly being gay is wrong. Its against why we were put here on this planet.
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Why were we put here on this planet? What important work are we doing? I wish I knew. Give my life purpose! =p
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Well, it's to serve God, and posses the earth after armegeton.
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If God has Omnipotence, and truly wants the best for his childrens, then why can't he just MAKE men who NEVER screw other men in the anus? Why does there have to be an armageddon where millions of his children die? If God is omnipresent, and omnipotent, he can make Satan fall down dead in an instant. He doesn't have to play around like this!

If God was SERIOUS for HALF an instant, like any GOD should be... Then why the heck is god SCREWING AROUND?

I'll tell you why.

Theos is the True god. Theos is impersonal, and tolerant of all things. Theos wants you to simply exist. The natural order of things is to love your neighbor, and the omnipresent Theos. Jesus would tell you this over and over again. And Jesus would uproot your life if you tried screwing with his religion.

Read the original translation ONCE. You will understand everything I'm saying. End of discussion.
If God has Omnipotence, and truly wants the best for his childrens, then why can't he just MAKE men who NEVER screw other men in the anus? Why does there have to be an armageddon where millions of his children die? If God is omnipresent, and omnipotent, he can make Satan fall down dead in an instant. He doesn't have to play around like this!

If God was SERIOUS for HALF an instant, like any GOD should be... Then why the heck is god SCREWING AROUND?

I'll tell you why.

Theos is the True god. Theos is impersonal, and tolerant of all things. Theos wants you to simply exist. The natural order of things is to love your neighbor, and the omnipresent Theos. Jesus would tell you this over and over again. And Jesus would uproot your life if you tried screwing with his religion.

Read the original translation ONCE. You will understand everything I'm saying. End of discussion.
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I am questioning the simple fact that some people believe that an action, that doen't violate anyone, is inherently evil. I thought this was a logic and debate board where people debate using logic. So, logically, two consenting people of the same sex engaging in the act of sodomy is not infringing on anyone's rights or interests. To repeat over and over," homosexuality is wrong, the bible says so." is a silly cop out. I've used many examples to help my point of veiw whereas those who think it is wrong redundently use the same cop out. I challenge you to prove me wrong sans bible quotes. Give me a substantial arguement , please.
I am questioning the simple fact that some people believe that an action, that doen't violate anyone, is inherently evil. I thought this was a logic and debate board where people debate using logic. So, logically, two consenting people of the same sex engaging in the act of sodomy is not infringing on anyone's rights or interests. To repeat over and over," homosexuality is wrong, the bible says so." is a silly cop out. I've used many examples to help my point of veiw whereas those who think it is wrong redundently use the same cop out. I challenge you to prove me wrong sans bible quotes. Give me a substantial arguement , please.
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Think of it this way... If god was really there what has he done for me? I ain't living the way I want to live, I don't get the s*** that I want.. What has he ever done for me? When I ask him for a sign, just something simple to prove to me that he's really there, not a goshdarned thing happens.. Why is that? Because God doesn't exist. The Bible, Torah, and Koran where created for laws, just so there isn't mass chaos, we don't need them today, because we have governments that provide these laws for us, so its silly to be fighting over something so stupid.. If a person wants to be gay, who gives and s***, does it have anything to do with you? Its their choice not yours or anybody elses.
Think of it this way... If god was really there what has he done for me? I ain't living the way I want to live, I don't get the s*** that I want.. What has he ever done for me? When I ask him for a sign, just something simple to prove to me that he's really there, not a goshdarned thing happens.. Why is that? Because God doesn't exist. The Bible, Torah, and Koran where created for laws, just so there isn't mass chaos, we don't need them today, because we have governments that provide these laws for us, so its silly to be fighting over something so stupid.. If a person wants to be gay, who gives and s***, does it have anything to do with you? Its their choice not yours or anybody elses.
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im ok with it as long as homosexuals are not open about it i mean i would not care if i dont have a sick feeling when i watch them make out if they were open but i feel sick when that happens so i dont like it when they are open but i dont care if someone is a homosexual
im ok with it as long as homosexuals are not open about it i mean i would not care if i dont have a sick feeling when i watch them make out if they were open but i feel sick when that happens so i dont like it when they are open but i dont care if someone is a homosexual
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Originally posted by Glenny
Think of it this way... If god was really there what has he done for me? I ain't living the way I want to live, I don't get the s*** that I want.. What has he ever done for me? When I ask him for a sign, just something simple to prove to me that he's really there, not a goshdarned thing happens.. Why is that? Because God doesn't exist. The Bible, Torah, and Koran where created for laws, just so there isn't mass chaos, we don't need them today, because we have governments that provide these laws for us, so its silly to be fighting over something so stupid.. If a person wants to be gay, who gives and s***, does it have anything to do with you? Its their choice not yours or anybody elses.


First of all glenn. He created you and your damn girlfriend you love so much. Do you think that you 2 just got together by accident. No. A series of events happened that were rare and strange. For example:
-My dad was born
-He went to college in riverfalls and went to the AGR frat house
-He married my mom and created me
-I became friends with you
-My parents went out one night to an AGR thing
-I had you and Jared over
-Mike came
-We convinced Jared to go and pick up kayla, molly, and ellie.
-I got in the hot tub drunk with molly and kayla (this doesn't matter, its just that both molly and kayla are hott)
-You met kayla

See glenn s*** doesn't happen by accident. Out of the millions of sperm floating around i just got made by luck of the draw? Fat chance. There is your proof. Your life is your proof. And no matter how bad you want stuff to be bad for you, you have it much better then so many people. Just be happy god has given you what you have.
Originally posted by Glenny
Think of it this way... If god was really there what has he done for me? I ain't living the way I want to live, I don't get the s*** that I want.. What has he ever done for me? When I ask him for a sign, just something simple to prove to me that he's really there, not a goshdarned thing happens.. Why is that? Because God doesn't exist. The Bible, Torah, and Koran where created for laws, just so there isn't mass chaos, we don't need them today, because we have governments that provide these laws for us, so its silly to be fighting over something so stupid.. If a person wants to be gay, who gives and s***, does it have anything to do with you? Its their choice not yours or anybody elses.


First of all glenn. He created you and your damn girlfriend you love so much. Do you think that you 2 just got together by accident. No. A series of events happened that were rare and strange. For example:
-My dad was born
-He went to college in riverfalls and went to the AGR frat house
-He married my mom and created me
-I became friends with you
-My parents went out one night to an AGR thing
-I had you and Jared over
-Mike came
-We convinced Jared to go and pick up kayla, molly, and ellie.
-I got in the hot tub drunk with molly and kayla (this doesn't matter, its just that both molly and kayla are hott)
-You met kayla

See glenn s*** doesn't happen by accident. Out of the millions of sperm floating around i just got made by luck of the draw? Fat chance. There is your proof. Your life is your proof. And no matter how bad you want stuff to be bad for you, you have it much better then so many people. Just be happy god has given you what you have.
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Well, back to the original topic But I do know that all debates seem to go back to religion, anyway:

I said I dont really care. If your a homosexual or a lesbian, thats fine. I'm not going to go out of my way to discriminate against you, or I'm not going to stop being your friend because your a homosexual or a lesbian.

But since we were talkin god and what not anyway: John, from that post it seems your a religious person. And so If God existed (personally, I dont believe God) than the thoery is that he creates every man and women, no? So according to the bible being a homosexual or lesbian is wrong, no? So I dont think God (once again, if there is a God) would intentionally make anyone to defy him.
Well, back to the original topic But I do know that all debates seem to go back to religion, anyway:

I said I dont really care. If your a homosexual or a lesbian, thats fine. I'm not going to go out of my way to discriminate against you, or I'm not going to stop being your friend because your a homosexual or a lesbian.

But since we were talkin god and what not anyway: John, from that post it seems your a religious person. And so If God existed (personally, I dont believe God) than the thoery is that he creates every man and women, no? So according to the bible being a homosexual or lesbian is wrong, no? So I dont think God (once again, if there is a God) would intentionally make anyone to defy him.
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He doesn't make you defy him, you do that by choice. Humans sin, your not supposed to. God didn't make you sin, you did.
He doesn't make you defy him, you do that by choice. Humans sin, your not supposed to. God didn't make you sin, you did.
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