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how do you all feel about homosexuality in general and marriage and any other issues that pertain to homosexuality explain why you feel that way?

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I don't really see the problem with gay people getting married. If they want to be miserable with the rest of us, go right ahead. Marriage nowadays is a sham for a lot of straight people. Getting divorced numerous times. It's almost not realistic in today's society.

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Honestly, I have no problem with it. In fact, I have 2 gay friends, one of each gender. I don't see why Christians hate them so much, they are like awesome. But it never has bothered me, if they want to get married, let them. It's not like they are gonna be the next Bonnie and Clyde and start killing and robbing every straight person.

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I never had any problem with gay weddings. It's their choice if they want to live the rest of their lives together .My uncle is homosexual and isn't afraid to show it .He's married and all but doesn't shout it in the streets . That's all it's about

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Well you are all boring I was hoping to get some people harshly against it and some people strongly for it get us a decent argument going  boring 

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Of course, there are quite a few members that I would expect to be vehemently opposed to this, but either they chose not to post here or just have not seen the thread yet.

Personally I do not care if gay people get married. I do not think that it is in my right to restrict someone else's rights based on personal opinion. Although what might contribute to my decision is that I do not foster any hatred against those who are homosexual. I feel that difference is not bad and that society should be a little less harsh on those who are homosexual. I just feel like calling some "gay" as an insult, or "that's gay" just shows ignorance while out casting a complete group of people.

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Well, you will come to see that a lot of the regular posters here are pretty accepting  so you might not get the heated debate you are looking for. Sure, there are some users who are not for it, but the ones I can think of don't hate gay people. Anyway, I am a Christian myself, but I do not feel that they deserve discrimination or inequality. I get why a Christian church would say they won't recognize the marriage or say that they won't allow the marriage to take place in their church. I get it. But when it comes to politics, this should not be an issue. This is one of the biggest examples of how we say separation of Church and State, but the super conservative party is ignoring that part. I'm not saying all, but almost any vocal nay say in politics over this issue is because they have issues with it on a religious level. It is really just forcing people to live the way Christianity says you have to live. Like I said, I am a Christian myself, but I dislike it when religious perspectives are pretty much forced on everyone else. Let them get married, let them have the same rights we do. They don't have to force the church to recognize it. Just allow them to have a marriage that is recognized by the state because religion isn't supposed to control that. Yet it is.

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I honestly do not understand why people will get all upset about what people do in their own lives. If it doesn't affect you at all, why waste time worrying about it? Just let people live their lives. If we all minded our business a little bit more instead of everyone else's the world world would probably be a lot better of a place.

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Since you're asking this in Christian Conservatives I would hope you're asking for a Christian's perspective. The Bible is clear in that God is against homosexuality. It says: "Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men" - same goes for women, though not stated in that verse - (1 Corinthians 6:9). This isn't saying that homosexuals won't inherit the kingdom, it's saying that homosexual "offenders" won't, the 'men who have sex with men' or women with women.

Aside from the fact that the Bible condemns homosexual marriage, out of curiosity of what everyone else thinks, would homosexuals honestly get married without the intention of having sexual relations? If you are a homosexual and a Christian, it doesn't make sense to marry another homosexual.

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tRIUNE : it dosent make sense for a christian to hoarde money either since the bible says it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god.
You cannot serve both money and god.
And having food and clothes let us be therewithin content.
Having excess is condemed just as much as being gay.
Personaly what others do with themself isnt my buissiness, everyone should have the same rights.

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thenumberone : Sin is sin to God, homosexuality isn't a greater sin than any other sin.

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You're not gonna face as much opposition when supporting gay marriage as you would have several years ago. I guess if you're searching for people to argue with, then that's a bit of a letdown. But there are still plenty of other things that you can find to argue over.

But yeah, the fact that gay marriage is still illegal in the United States is insane. Hell, the fact that homosexuals weren't allowed to openly serve in the military until very recently is insane. Progress is being made, though, so I won't complain.

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I'm with tRIUNE on this one. I take a biblical worldview to life. I am opposed to gay marriage, and I believe homosexuality is a sin.

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I know people who are gay. They aren't bad people. I really have nothing against them.
But they're still in the wrong.
As tRIUNE pointed out, the Bible condemns homosexual actions. I do agree that it says nothing about the attraction itself being wrong. But they can choose to act on it or not.
That's why I'm against homosexual marriage. Because no, I don't hate them. No, I don't think they're any less deserving of basic rights. But I believe that their attempts to marry each other are morally wrong, because as tRIUNE said, can you really expect married couples to not engage in sex?

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bigNATE :

Before I say anything, I'm going to say that I'm assuming you're against gay marriage being legalized. If you're just against the idea itself, but you're fine with it being legal, then feel free to ignore everything that I say.

The Bible shouldn't have any authority or influence on anyone outside of the Christian religion. I can understand thinking that homosexuality is a sin, and thus you will never engage in it. But why should other people even care if what they do is against a book that you hold in high regard?

Personally, I couldn't care less about what's written in the Bible. The same is true for any holy book. I won't think twice about whether or not what I do is against some religious rule. And that's the way the legality of certain acts should work. Religion and "morality" (something that could not be much more subjective if it tried) should have no bearing on the law in a free country.

And one final note, you say that gay marriage is wrong because you cannot "really expect married couples to not engage in sex." But gay couples will have sex whether or not they're allowed to marry. Whether or not they can marry really has nothing to do with whether or not they'll have sex. At this point it's doing nothing but taking away their right to marry.

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soxfan849 : The fact that this thread was created in the Christian Conservatives forum is why we are having a Christian conversation about it; if you'd prefer this to be in the Debate and Logic forum, you should take it up with the thread creator if he wants it moved there.

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tRIUNE : yeh but his point wasnt why are you bringing religion into this thread, his point was why bring it into politics, since its undemocratic and unnecessary.

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thenumberone : Yeah you're right, religion and politics don't mix; this forum should be for threads for one or the other.

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