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In general, let's just say I'm not at all a fan of how they booked this years wrestlemania.

The card itself was fantastic, and the superstars and matchups looked interesting. But in the end it came off as disappointing. There was too much in the way of failure for me to genuinely enjoy this show.

First let's start with the "dark match". I didn't see all of it, so the start was a mystery to me. As such, I will be brief on it, lest I have no idea what happened. Epico and Primo won, which was a satisfactory result. However, I have to question WWE's decision to keep the belts on them, rather than give the Usos a run. They actually function as a tag team, and a win here could have really validated them as main roster talent. Instead, they come out in the same position as they entered. The whole Tyson Kidd and Justin Gabriel pairing was kind of weak to me...

Then there was Bryan versus Sheamus. I get leading off the show with it. That's perfectly fine. As long as the match is of quality. You have 3 or 4 really top card matches, and can't really have them all bunched together... well they did anyway, but this match was my wild card match I was looking forward to earlier today. I must say. 18 seconds. Disappointing. There's no better way to lower the prestige of a title belt by having your guy lose it in 18 seconds. I get why they would do this, but I'm not understanding why they wouldn't make the match a little more quality... the Brodus Clay segment later was completely unneeded, and I would have prefered seeing this match carry on. We'll see on Friday how Bryan responds.

Admittedly though, I did like the Kane-Orton match. It was a little stale for my liking, and I've seen this match before, and I remember it pretty clearly. However, I liked the choice to put Kane over. I came in expecting a clear Orton win, as they love pushing him. However, Kane needed this win to validate this new/old persona of his. Overall a very average match with a good ending, something this PPV seemed to lack later on.

But it was a return to basics with Big Show versus Cody Rhodes. And by basics, I mean burying talent, and putting over a guy who didn't need a title win. Big Show doesn't sound like a good IC champ... and sadly this match makes me feel like that belt is more important than the WHC belt. It was a solid enough match if a bit rushed, but the problem again was how they ended it. I'm fine with Big Show picking up his Wrestlemania win, but it made Cody Rhodes look really weak, which is something you DONT want out of these matches. Cody Rhodes is a top level talent and will bounce back, but it feels ridiculous to have him lose to the Big Show at Wrestlemania (although next month would have been fine in comparison).

I didn't see most of the Divas match. As is tradition, I went to make food, because this match is just never worth watching. Without watching or seeing who won, I could probably tell you the result, and what happened. Kelly Kelly couldn't wrestle as per usual. Maria Menunous or however you spell it probably got the winning roll-over as it's the only way for Divas to apparently win, Eve probably stayed out of the match for the most part, and Beth Phoenix probably looked silly for a woman of her size and ability. If I missed on any points, don't worry about filling me in, the Divas matches are never worth watching, and I'm fairly positive it held true again.

Next was my favorite match of the night. Undertaker. TRIPLE H. End of an era. Shawn Michaels as ref. My god this match was fantastic. This match again was close. I knew the result prior to the actual match happening, but the way they did it made it feel new and refreshing. Emotions ran wild, and everything clicked on a perfect note. This match really stole the show, and everybody was into this match. And the way it ended... perfect. Crotch chop by Triple H. The finisher by Undertaker. Shawn Michaels doing his job. Everybody showing each other respect after one of the better matches I've seen on WWE TV in the past year. I was a major fan of this.

Unfortunately... this didn't carry over. As Team Teddy and Team Johnny had another round of "The outcome is inevitable" starring a bunch of young guys that are being forever buried. I really wanted to see this made an elimination match. Realistically, I would have scrapped the Divas match, taken out 5 minutes of Cena-Rock, and taken out 5 minutes of Punk-Jericho, and just ran with it. These young guys keep getting buried and it's unfortunate. Kofi Kingston, R-Truth, Zack Ryder, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, etc... they get no time to really shine anymore. They had brief times, but as we went down the Road to Wrestlemania, their roles diminished. This is why the fans were quiet during the match. There was no feeling of emotion or connection, because WWE keeps burying the young guys. All in all, really disappointed in everything but the result with this match.

Jericho and Punk however was another top level match. Probably my second best of the night behind HHH-UT-HBK. Jericho and Punk showed their top level wrestling... yes, wrestling, skills. They did not disappoint as this was the match I was torn most on. I seriously thought Jericho had a chance of winning, even if only by DQ. Either way, the match was dramatic, and culminated in the outcome I think needed to happen. Good job (weird, I know) by WWE to not have Punk job to Jericho.

But Cena jobbing to Rock is a problem. This match was a year in the making. The movie star celebrity who is never around the WWE versus the most recognizable name in the entire company. When you think about that last fragment, you should come up with the correct answer. The winner should be the guy who represents your company. WWE dropped the ball on this one, since I know they don't have the balls to turn Cena heel (which is the only realistic way of having Cena lose). What happens from here? Cena, the guy who NEEDED this to validate himself, has nothing in terms of creative at this time. I guess you could have him rematch with Rock... but what's the point? Now we know Rock is better. There's no emotion left in it. This was an end all passing of the torch that never happened. I guess you could have him work from the ground up and challenge him at next year's 'mania... but what are the odds they actually do that? I'm seriously confused as to what they are going to do with him, which while in most cases is good, is NOT GOOD when it's the TOP STAR IN YOUR COMPANY. As for The Rock... he's not gonna stay. He's going back to his movie star lifestyle, and this win will mean literally nothing for him. All told, very disappointing finish. I'm not a Cena fan, but even I see this is more important to Cena's character, than it is to Rock's.

I would say the PPV was disappointing (like last years) but not AS disappointing. Final judgement is reserved for once we see what creative does with these guys. I seriously hope they get something going for Cena and the young guys... because otherwise, this was a pretty lackluster event.

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I think Wrestlemania is the most hype for the smallest payoff. I was not surprised by any of the matches (except for the speed of the first match.... not the result).

I loved the hell in a cell match but I knew it wouldn't actually be as brutal as previous ones. It had it's moments though considering you had 2 guys over 40 in the match together. I did like that up until the very end you believed either guy could have won.

I watched the Rock vs Cena match and it felt clunky. I felt like the timing on a lot of what was happening was slightly off. I've always felt that way about Cena though. His timing has always seemed off and without a good heel (Angle, HHH, or someone like that) to actually carry the match he doesn't look very good.

I still enjoyed watching it but overall it goes to show how much WWF/E has changed.

I agree that the new guys need a push. With HHH, HBK and Undertaker out of the way I see them having a chance to be pushed. The only other guys that are really "old" that are left are Christian, Jericho, Cena, Orton, Kane, Big Show..... not many others really that are a big draw.

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I haven't watched wresting in like 5-10 years now. I used to follow it all the time. I know I had some friends posting on Facebook that they thought it was a disappointing Wrestlemania.... I wasn't sure on exactly why they thought that though.

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HHH and Taker stole the show again
Sheamus/D-Bry was a rip off, and the fans know it.
Kelly/Maria blah blah Potty break match
Punk/Jericho Not bad, I liked the technical match
Cena/Rock Not bad, but it was way overrated
Johnny/Teddy Ok for a match
Show/Rhodes Not good, not bad, in the middle.

Can't wait for next year. Hoping not overrated like this.

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Where do I begin... lets start the show with ZERO pyro... yeah great idea!!! Next lets book a 18 second title match!!! Then lets lets throw in a feud with kane vs orton where the audience was so bored they started chanting for bryan!!!

Later on we see Taker vs HHH which was easily best match of night. Then there was Jericho vs Punk, it was ok best part of the match was jericho taunting punk about his sister lol. Also the move they did on top rope looked like something straight out of exorcist when jericho put punk in walls of jericho from top rope.

Those were the highlights.

Cena vs Rock though was probably the worst match of the night. The obsessive use of sleeper holds really put me to sleep. The rock looked so tired and out of shape that this match was a complete dud. I felt cena carried the entire match and the ending was a huge buzz kill for their feud. All that build up for nothing... it really should have been used to progress cena not rock.

Seems to me that all wm main events have sucked lately, HHH vs orton was bad, Cena vs Miz was bad, and Rock vs Cena was also bad. Without taker, wm would probably blow considering he has had the best matches for several years now he is what saves the event every year from being complete garbage.

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JigSaw :

They apparently spent half a million on pyro for the PPV... just none of it when it mattered.

I'm willing to bet almost all of it went into the Hell in a Cell match.

And I don't disagree.

Looks like the main events will suck in the future too, given the return of Lesnar. He'll feud with Cena (unfortunately)

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legacyme3 : Did HBK's pyro glitch? I heard it but where the hell was it lol. Also takers entrance had so much smoke the camera guy had a hard time getting a shot of it I also noticed that the camera guy at top of ramp his camera was glitching so bad it looked like a VHS tape on the fritz.

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pyro is over-rated.... just like every match but the HHH vs Taker match.

I'm really not sure why Rock beat Cena either.... the only thing I can imagine is that Rock only agreed to do the match as long as he won it. And WWE needed him to return in order to try and make something of this wrestlemania....

I'll be glad to get away from the hype of WM and get back to some normal storylines that don't involve Cena and Rock bickering for 20 minutes at the end of every Raw or HHH and HBK arguing over who is better. Give the new guys some time to have great matches. It's wrestling after all.

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JigSaw :

Me and my friend made a joke about the pyro. They spent hundreds of thousands on HHH and Undertakers... but when it came to Shawn, it was like they got penny-firecrackers

Yeah, there were a lot of technical difficulties it appears... and the palm trees kind of obstructed some people's view apparently

geeogree :

I agree with you. Pyro is over-rated, but it's funny seeing how those little things get a person more attentive to the fact at hand

And I wouldn't get too excited... I heard a rumor they want to announce the WM29 main event some time this month

I can't wait for Extreme Rules... it's one of my favorites for a reason

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Pyro is usually over rated and then people complain about it not being good enough, but zero pyro for wrestlmania intro I just don't see how they could have possibly left that out during their biggest event of the year. That is probably the first thing most people expect in a wrestlemania is the intro pyro.

Oh well, not my product and not my problem they can run it how they want

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It wasn't the best WM, but it wasn't the worst. I would have enjoyed it a hell of a lot more if Daniel and Sheamus had been given an actual freaking match.

I'm still pissed about that, probably will be for a very long time. I paid to see a wrestling match. And squash matches, IMO don't belong in the WHC match at Wrestlemania. Both guys deserved to have a great match and were more than capable of it, but the WHC is treated like garbage and so is the talent. All because Vince wanted to beat a scripted record set by Kane, that in the end, wasn't broken. I feel bad for DBD losing in such a cheap fashion...It especially stings considering the original plan was to have Daniel cash in his MITB briefcase and win at 'Mania...

Jericho vs Punk was amazing. I had no idea who to go for as I love both. It was simply a fantastic match. That match was definitely my favourite of the night.

The End of an Era match was alright. It wasn't as good as some people make it out to be IMHO. I think because of who was involved and the fact that it was HIAC gives the illusion that it was a great match. But the story behind it played out great and I loved the ending. The only reason I was as into it as I was, was because I wanted to see what Shawn would do.

I was so pleased that the Rock won and that he won catching Cena mid People's Elbow. Awesome.

The Diva's match was a joke. I've said it before and I will continue to say it: It should have been Beth vs Nattie.

Too bad Tyson lost. I have no idea why the tag titles are still on Primo and Epico...

The rest of the card...I didn't really care for at all. Brodus Clay was completely unnecessary. A fat dude with him "momma's" bridge club...no thanks.

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Us smarks might not have liked it, but lets be honest, the Sheamus D-Bryant match was purely to get the crowd going. A Legendary (and I use the word very lightly) win for the babyface and the crowd gets pumped early.

I heard Cena was told the ending of the match with Rock right before he walked out, which probably didn't help his performance. Rock got tired walking to the ring, at that point I knew Cena would have to carry the entire match. He did his best, but Cena isn't a good enough wrestler to pull off a year of hype by himself. Did you see that Sharpshooter by the Rock? Total crap. I lost a lot of respect for the Rock, he had a year where all he had to do was prepare for this match, and he blew it off.

Y2J vs Punk was my favorite match of the night, but I'm a fan of fast paced matches. HHH vs Taker was fantastic, those two are masters of building drama in the ring. The match seemed like it went on forever, but it was exciting the whole way through.

Cody should have won, unless they plan on pushing him to the Main Event scene, then I'm fine with it.

Glad to see Kane won, it was a solid PPV match considering it was essentially thrown together at the last second.

Maria Menous was a better wrestler than Kelly Kelly, and she apparently actually had two broken ribs while doing it. Better than most Diva's matches, still not a good match.

Teddy vs Johnny was the wrong place on the card. It should have been switched with the Orton Kane match. It wasn't a bad match, Ziggler sold everything wonderfully, Ryder sold the kick in the nuts great, The Miz wrestled at his best, but it was still a throw away match. Should not have been where it was. It came across as a major disappointment after the Hell In A Cell match.

I think the fireworks for HBK were coming from that building across the street, we just couldn't see them because of the way the camera was positioned.

The Brodus Clay segment was horrible, ruined the momentum, and gave Jerry the King to be horrifically annoying. But I guess they have to have an obligatory weird segment. Like Snoop Dogg's American Idol thing last year.

Epico and Primo are a solid team, I'm fine with them holding the titles as long as they actually start talking... maybe get some personality or a gimmick too. Same deal with the Usos, good in the ring, not so good on the mic.

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