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This is me complaing about a game... Wierd huh...

So i was talking to neojazex about FFX-2 after completing FFX, his suggestion was to not waste my time and boy do i wish i had listened... I played it for 10 hours... got to the 3rd chapter... half way through the game... AND i could not work out the story line... from FFVII to FFX they managed to keep a working storyline as Squaresoft, but as Square Enix - they make a sequal, the first time it had ever been done in the FF series... and they f*** it up!!! WTF!?!?!!??!?!!

WIth the exception of neojazex, who i hope complains here to.. Did anyone else have a problem with this game? Did anyone know wtf the story line was!? Im adding Video Land to my revenge list for making me waste $6:50 for the game... Like what a ripoff!

And Square Enix, you bastards!
This is me complaing about a game... Wierd huh...

So i was talking to neojazex about FFX-2 after completing FFX, his suggestion was to not waste my time and boy do i wish i had listened... I played it for 10 hours... got to the 3rd chapter... half way through the game... AND i could not work out the story line... from FFVII to FFX they managed to keep a working storyline as Squaresoft, but as Square Enix - they make a sequal, the first time it had ever been done in the FF series... and they f*** it up!!! WTF!?!?!!??!?!!

WIth the exception of neojazex, who i hope complains here to.. Did anyone else have a problem with this game? Did anyone know wtf the story line was!? Im adding Video Land to my revenge list for making me waste $6:50 for the game... Like what a ripoff!

And Square Enix, you bastards!
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DAMN! I brought this game off sam for 15 bucks...
I dont think its story has anything to do with FFX does it?
DAMN! I brought this game off sam for 15 bucks...
I dont think its story has anything to do with FFX does it?
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Uhh whats the spoiler tag again...















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Ok so the deal is right... You play as Yuna and your a Sphere Hunter... you hunt spheres... And as far as i can tell you find a sphere with someone that looks like Tidus in it... also i think the dream she has of the similar scene withher and Tidus in it is somehow linked... This is as close as i can come to seeing a story line... Its just... lame... But hey i may be wrong...

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Uhh whats the spoiler tag again...















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Ok so the deal is right... You play as Yuna and your a Sphere Hunter... you hunt spheres... And as far as i can tell you find a sphere with someone that looks like Tidus in it... also i think the dream she has of the similar scene withher and Tidus in it is somehow linked... This is as close as i can come to seeing a story line... Its just... lame... But hey i may be wrong...

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I heard the game was ok, but I haven't played it.
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its ok... as a game... considering they used the class system in it similar to... FFV i think it was , which is entertaining and fun... but the storyline is really fudged... i never beat it... though i have it a fair shot and if i gathered the determination once more i suppose i could...
also, unless you have a guide, you probably miss some cool dressspheres... like deathknight... i think its deathknight, or darknight... which is cool as, and alchemist, which is cool, as it is Rikku's Overdrive from FFX 24/7
its ok... as a game... considering they used the class system in it similar to... FFV i think it was , which is entertaining and fun... but the storyline is really fudged... i never beat it... though i have it a fair shot and if i gathered the determination once more i suppose i could...
also, unless you have a guide, you probably miss some cool dressspheres... like deathknight... i think its deathknight, or darknight... which is cool as, and alchemist, which is cool, as it is Rikku's Overdrive from FFX 24/7
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Wait overdrives... what overdrives... thats another thing... theres not overdrives...

there is no emoticon for what i am feeling!
Wait overdrives... what overdrives... thats another thing... theres not overdrives...

there is no emoticon for what i am feeling!
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I heard the battle system was cool.
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That i will admit.. the new battle system is awesome as.. Boy i was suprised when i saw it had an ATB system i was like COOL!!!!

Then i saw that when i attacked someone they would attack at the SAME time... w00tness!
That i will admit.. the new battle system is awesome as.. Boy i was suprised when i saw it had an ATB system i was like COOL!!!!

Then i saw that when i attacked someone they would attack at the SAME time... w00tness!
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I haven't really seen it in action, but that sounds cool.
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Hey staff persons there is an final fantasy forum you know.
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True. I'll move it a little later today so that others can see it and know where it's going before it gets moved.

You have to get the 100% ending for it to really tie things up. The battle system was great, and the special dresspheres pretty much made up for the lack of Overdrives. (Come on, each character has basically an "if I was the final boss I'd look like this" form! That's gotta count for something!)

I thought the storyline was fine, actually. You KNOW it's going to tie in with Tidus and you KNOW the sphere and Yuna's dream are connected... You KNOW Lenne somehow mixes in with it all... It manages to keep you confused enough to keep wondering WTF is going on... Yuna is in denial just trying to go on with her life (she becomes a sphere hunter since the Summoner profession is no longer needed), and she tries not to get involved with global politics ("not like when I was a Summoner," she says).

The thing you have to remember is that since it takes 100% of the game to get the best ending (and you have to press Circle, I think, in the Farplane during the ending...repeatedly...to get it to happen), you just have to explore everything and DO everything like you would in FF7... Beating Sephiroth was only half the fun for most people... They had to know they'd gotten 100% of EVERYTHING. So do that here!




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If you just don't have the patience to finish the game at 100%, here's how the story worked... The guy in the sphere who looks like Tidus...his name is Shuyin. Unlike Tidus, Shuyin was a real person living in Zanarkand 1000 years ago before it was destroyed in the Machina War (was NOT destroyed by Sin). Anyway, Lenne was a famous singer at that time, and was Shuyin's sweetheart. When the Machina War broke out between Zanarkand and Bevelle, everyone pretty much knew Bevelle would win because of their machina. It was a useless cause to go to war for Zanarkand.

Lenne was the most skilled summoner in Zanarkand, next to Yevon. (That's another story though.) She knew she would be needed, so even though it was a useless cause, she went to war.

Shuyin couldn't stand to lose Lenne, and he knew he would if Zanarkand didn't win the war -- and fast. He had heard of Vegnagun, the ultimate machina, hidden beneath Bevelle, so he infiltrated Bevelle and made his way to Vegnagun hoping to use it to destroy Bevelle. With no Bevelle, there would be no war and Lenne would be safe. He was found just before he could turn Vegnagun on though. Lenne, who had also been in battle in Bevelle, made it to Shuyin and realized what he was trying to do. She was touched by his love for her, but he'd gotten them into a helluva pickle. They were both shot to death by Bevelle soldiers, and they died together. The war continued and Zanarkand was obliterated by Bevelle.

(Ironically, it's interesting to note that with Lenne being in Bevelle anyway, she would have been killed if Shuyin had fired Vegnagun. Of course, Vegnagun would have destroyed all of Spira anyway -- though I don't think Shuyin knew this at the time -- so he'd REALLY have some problems then!)

To keep Zanarkand from being 100% annihilated, Yevon -- Zanarkand's ruler and an even greater summoner than Lenne -- asked the people to join together as a single Fayth to summon the entire city into a dream. Thus was "dream Zanarkand" created, along with Tidus, Jecht, etc. Yevon was the core of this Dream Zanarkand; he was the center of its summoning... So he needed to be protected so that Dream Zanarkand wouldn't be disturbed, even by Bevelle. So Sin was created surrounding Yevon. Sin was originally a defensive measure to guard against Bevelle, but Sin took on a mind of its own and went on the offensive against Bevelle and the rest of the world, preventing their technology from advancing to the point that they could destroy Sin.

Anyway, fast forward 1000 years. Yuna finds that sphere recording Shuyin just before he got shot, and she has dreams that parallel what happened to Shuyin and Lenne...except it's Yuna and Tidus in the dreams. The Songstress dressphere contains Lenne's spirit, so Lenne likes to express herself through Yuna on occasion. (Hence the dancing that Brother is so obsessed with...horn dog.) Shuyin's spirit still hasn't passed on, but hasn't become an unsent either. He still rages with anger against Bevelle for killing Lenne, and is obsessed with firing Vegnagun...even though he has since learned just HOW powerful it is. He needs a body to use, and somehow (I don't remember how) he takes over Baralai. Yuna and party bust Vegnagun up while it's powering up, and with no more use for Baralai, Shuyin leaps out of him to attack the girls, only to think he recognizes Lenne when he sees Yuna. (She really IS there since Yuna has the Songstress dressphere.) But when he sees Yuna up close, the shorter hair tips him off to realize it's not Lenne. He attacks them, and once they've beaten him til he's too weak to fight, Lenne appears to speak to Shuyin, and manages to disarm his hostility.

The whole time, Yuna's staring at them thinking how much they remind her of what it was like to lose Tidus.

Commence ending. They're leaving Vegnagun's place and heading through the Farplane when Yuna hears a familiar whistle. The Fayth of Bahamut appears and asks Yuna if she wishes to see him. Obviously Yuna says yes. Tidus is then dreamt up again in Farplane form (like you would dream up anyone in the Farplane), and she sees him for a minute, I think. Anyway, that's done and she leaves the Farplane...no Tidus. He's still "gone."

Now I'm not entirely sure how he came back, but my theory is that the zillions of pyreflies from the Farplane were part of it. I think that some of the pyreflies LEFT the Farplane, went back to the world, and joined into Tidus again...I guess that would qualify him as an Unsent, wouldn't it? Anyway, Yuna finds him off the shores of Besaid and has only started to hug him when Wakka shows up (along with half of Spira) telling them to get a room...which they promptly do! The end.
No more freakin spoilers

So you see? It ties together. It's quite complex, like any FF storyline. You just have to get past the unusual presentation. It's a great game. Made me cry, so I know it's well-made!
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You have to get the 100% ending for it to really tie things up. The battle system was great, and the special dresspheres pretty much made up for the lack of Overdrives. (Come on, each character has basically an "if I was the final boss I'd look like this" form! That's gotta count for something!)

I thought the storyline was fine, actually. You KNOW it's going to tie in with Tidus and you KNOW the sphere and Yuna's dream are connected... You KNOW Lenne somehow mixes in with it all... It manages to keep you confused enough to keep wondering WTF is going on... Yuna is in denial just trying to go on with her life (she becomes a sphere hunter since the Summoner profession is no longer needed), and she tries not to get involved with global politics ("not like when I was a Summoner," she says).

The thing you have to remember is that since it takes 100% of the game to get the best ending (and you have to press Circle, I think, in the Farplane during the ending...repeatedly...to get it to happen), you just have to explore everything and DO everything like you would in FF7... Beating Sephiroth was only half the fun for most people... They had to know they'd gotten 100% of EVERYTHING. So do that here!




Freakin spoilers
If you just don't have the patience to finish the game at 100%, here's how the story worked... The guy in the sphere who looks like Tidus...his name is Shuyin. Unlike Tidus, Shuyin was a real person living in Zanarkand 1000 years ago before it was destroyed in the Machina War (was NOT destroyed by Sin). Anyway, Lenne was a famous singer at that time, and was Shuyin's sweetheart. When the Machina War broke out between Zanarkand and Bevelle, everyone pretty much knew Bevelle would win because of their machina. It was a useless cause to go to war for Zanarkand.

Lenne was the most skilled summoner in Zanarkand, next to Yevon. (That's another story though.) She knew she would be needed, so even though it was a useless cause, she went to war.

Shuyin couldn't stand to lose Lenne, and he knew he would if Zanarkand didn't win the war -- and fast. He had heard of Vegnagun, the ultimate machina, hidden beneath Bevelle, so he infiltrated Bevelle and made his way to Vegnagun hoping to use it to destroy Bevelle. With no Bevelle, there would be no war and Lenne would be safe. He was found just before he could turn Vegnagun on though. Lenne, who had also been in battle in Bevelle, made it to Shuyin and realized what he was trying to do. She was touched by his love for her, but he'd gotten them into a helluva pickle. They were both shot to death by Bevelle soldiers, and they died together. The war continued and Zanarkand was obliterated by Bevelle.

(Ironically, it's interesting to note that with Lenne being in Bevelle anyway, she would have been killed if Shuyin had fired Vegnagun. Of course, Vegnagun would have destroyed all of Spira anyway -- though I don't think Shuyin knew this at the time -- so he'd REALLY have some problems then!)

To keep Zanarkand from being 100% annihilated, Yevon -- Zanarkand's ruler and an even greater summoner than Lenne -- asked the people to join together as a single Fayth to summon the entire city into a dream. Thus was "dream Zanarkand" created, along with Tidus, Jecht, etc. Yevon was the core of this Dream Zanarkand; he was the center of its summoning... So he needed to be protected so that Dream Zanarkand wouldn't be disturbed, even by Bevelle. So Sin was created surrounding Yevon. Sin was originally a defensive measure to guard against Bevelle, but Sin took on a mind of its own and went on the offensive against Bevelle and the rest of the world, preventing their technology from advancing to the point that they could destroy Sin.

Anyway, fast forward 1000 years. Yuna finds that sphere recording Shuyin just before he got shot, and she has dreams that parallel what happened to Shuyin and Lenne...except it's Yuna and Tidus in the dreams. The Songstress dressphere contains Lenne's spirit, so Lenne likes to express herself through Yuna on occasion. (Hence the dancing that Brother is so obsessed with...horn dog.) Shuyin's spirit still hasn't passed on, but hasn't become an unsent either. He still rages with anger against Bevelle for killing Lenne, and is obsessed with firing Vegnagun...even though he has since learned just HOW powerful it is. He needs a body to use, and somehow (I don't remember how) he takes over Baralai. Yuna and party bust Vegnagun up while it's powering up, and with no more use for Baralai, Shuyin leaps out of him to attack the girls, only to think he recognizes Lenne when he sees Yuna. (She really IS there since Yuna has the Songstress dressphere.) But when he sees Yuna up close, the shorter hair tips him off to realize it's not Lenne. He attacks them, and once they've beaten him til he's too weak to fight, Lenne appears to speak to Shuyin, and manages to disarm his hostility.

The whole time, Yuna's staring at them thinking how much they remind her of what it was like to lose Tidus.

Commence ending. They're leaving Vegnagun's place and heading through the Farplane when Yuna hears a familiar whistle. The Fayth of Bahamut appears and asks Yuna if she wishes to see him. Obviously Yuna says yes. Tidus is then dreamt up again in Farplane form (like you would dream up anyone in the Farplane), and she sees him for a minute, I think. Anyway, that's done and she leaves the Farplane...no Tidus. He's still "gone."

Now I'm not entirely sure how he came back, but my theory is that the zillions of pyreflies from the Farplane were part of it. I think that some of the pyreflies LEFT the Farplane, went back to the world, and joined into Tidus again...I guess that would qualify him as an Unsent, wouldn't it? Anyway, Yuna finds him off the shores of Besaid and has only started to hug him when Wakka shows up (along with half of Spira) telling them to get a room...which they promptly do! The end.
No more freakin spoilers

So you see? It ties together. It's quite complex, like any FF storyline. You just have to get past the unusual presentation. It's a great game. Made me cry, so I know it's well-made!
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I'll go ahead and move it. I got here from New posts, so I didn't notice.

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I'll go ahead and move it. I got here from New posts, so I didn't notice.

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Thats all well and good ajke, i understnad it now - or if i played the entire game. But im not going to play a game that only is worth it once i complete it. I think that the first mistake Square-Enix ever made, was FFX-2. I also dont like the entire concept of the dresspheres.

And i dont know wtf i was thinkin when i put this into the video games section over the FF section...

I was in bloodrage... bloodrage with Square-Enix...




Thats all well and good ajke, i understnad it now - or if i played the entire game. But im not going to play a game that only is worth it once i complete it. I think that the first mistake Square-Enix ever made, was FFX-2. I also dont like the entire concept of the dresspheres.

And i dont know wtf i was thinkin when i put this into the video games section over the FF section...

I was in bloodrage... bloodrage with Square-Enix...




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The dress sphere thing actually always sounded kinda odd to me.
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Yeah, the opening of the game sorta does a.. thing on it.. but im like... wtf is going on? It was just real lame.
Yeah, the opening of the game sorta does a.. thing on it.. but im like... wtf is going on? It was just real lame.
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You don't like the dresspheres? You don't like watching the 3 girls changing clothes in the middle of a fight?
You don't like the dresspheres? You don't like watching the 3 girls changing clothes in the middle of a fight?
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That makes me believe that the, and im assuming, the hentai loving geek nerds that worked on the graphic of FFX-2 are not only lonly people, but ones who enjoyed making this game alot....
That makes me believe that the, and im assuming, the hentai loving geek nerds that worked on the graphic of FFX-2 are not only lonly people, but ones who enjoyed making this game alot....
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Yeah they probably did.
Yeah they probably did.
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Hentai jokes aside... Get yourself an AR Max and speed through the game, turn on the 100% code, and hit Circle a few times during every scene where Yuna is in the Farplane. You'll hear Tidus whistle when you do it at the right times. Just for your own sanity and understanding, visit the spot in Luca where Tidus taught Yuna to whistle. Anyway, just speed through with 100% and watch the ending. It IS worth it, I promise. Maybe after that, you'll forgive Square.
Hentai jokes aside... Get yourself an AR Max and speed through the game, turn on the 100% code, and hit Circle a few times during every scene where Yuna is in the Farplane. You'll hear Tidus whistle when you do it at the right times. Just for your own sanity and understanding, visit the spot in Luca where Tidus taught Yuna to whistle. Anyway, just speed through with 100% and watch the ending. It IS worth it, I promise. Maybe after that, you'll forgive Square.
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You know what... Im not going to do that... Why play the game... When i get my internet back ill just download the ending movie

Then ill forgive square... I <3 Square Soft
I dont <3 Square Enix...

But we will see how the ending movie is yeah... then ill be like WOAH! Who needs to play the game!
You know what... Im not going to do that... Why play the game... When i get my internet back ill just download the ending movie

Then ill forgive square... I <3 Square Soft
I dont <3 Square Enix...

But we will see how the ending movie is yeah... then ill be like WOAH! Who needs to play the game!
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