I have a feeling that I'm triggering a massive explosion posting this... but I wanted to get everyone's opinions on this.

This article and this video both point out apparent flaws in the official report on the events of September 11, 2001 based on laws of chemistry and physics. I'm not taking a position on this, but it does raise some interesting questions.

The Article

The Video... warning, it's over 1 hour long

This is a serious discussion, please keep it civil people.

Was gona read article. 404 error.

That vid is a big load, specially on dialup .

No matter what happens in the world, there are conspiratists. I saw pics of the pentagon, and was asked the question, wheres the remains of the plane? Why didnt the plane make it 2nd ring of the building? Well, the pentagon is made strong.. Cant explain lack of debrie... Apparently it was a missle, not a plane, acording to conspiratists.

Also, why'd building 7 collapse? For those who dont know, building 7 is one of the smaller buildings at the WTC complex. I can tell ya why, cos buildings just fell on it!!!

And apparenlty, if u get screenshots of 9/11 vid, you can see the building with 'explosives' dettinationg across a row (floor 54 i think...), just b4 the WTC collapsed. Dont these ppl think it could have been supports collapsing, or gas lines exploding within the building...

Personally, i like to look into these conspiracys, and ususally dont agree with them.

Actually WTC 1 and 2 fell straight down, WTC7 was 300 feet away. The official reason that it fell is that debris from the other two towers ignited something in the building and caused it to burn.

The web page loads for most people, you're the second person it wouldn't load for. Yeah, I know the video is long to load even on dsl... it's a movie. Loose Change is what it's commonly referred to as from what I've seen.

I know of a group that has the power do to this, but if I talked about it I'd be at risk.

i'LL put this on my to do list, I know in HS a couple guys burned me a dvd about the 911 conspiracy theories. I forget what it was called.

As far as being against all conspiracy theories I don't think you can lump them together, but look at them individually. Some have alot more credibility than others.

There's suppose to be some code in MSword; when you do something it gives you some code that refers to the 9/11 attacks.

Btw, I have a friend who's birthday is on 9/11; talk about a party pooper.

I've seen that. My brother showed it to me years ago after the attacks.

I know wat u mean. I got it in an email. Ill copy n paste it here, at da end of my posts.
Elara, is it really that far away.. the whole complex musta been huge!.

i did read bout firefighters in building 7 say 'shall we pull it?' , some say this is them detinating building 7, others say this is the lingo for 'LETS GET THE HECK OUTA HERE!' I also read that building 7 had alot of kerocien (mind the spelling...) in the basement or somthing like that...


This is the email..

1) New York City has 11 letters
2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.
3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.
4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.
2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.
3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11
4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11
5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+1 =11
6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?!
Read on and make up your own mind:
1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 +5 + 4 = 11.
2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3+1+1+2+4 = 11.
4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:
The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:
"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Uncovinced about all of this Still ..?! Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:
1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.
2. Highlight the Q33 NY.
3. Change the font size to 48.
4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS
What do you think now?!!

I didn't know all that other stuff it mentioned... rather creepy really. I'm going to dig out the copy of the Koran that is somewhere in my room and see if that really is in there.

Yeh, coolies. Why is u got a koran?

My uncle sent it for some reason (he often sends random things to us). My mom put it on my bed as a joke and I kept it because I wanted to actually read it. Again, as I've mentioned in other threads, I make it a point of pride to know as much about other religions as I can. I also have a Jehovah's Witness Bible in my room... still somewhere in Genesis (and blah begat blearg, who begat foop, who begat Abraham, etc, etc, etc).

Still hunting for the Koran... I think my room ate it. It likes doing that too papers and books that I need.

Have you got a Christian Bible?

Just a little info... Christian's and Jehovah's Witness don't agree on things. You figure out why I mentioned it.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf

Must See Vid. 3mb.

After watchin the movie, i agree entirely... Conspirecy...

Yeh, it would have to be, surley...
A really cool bit of editing though. Like, it all works well with the music n stuff.

Compelling i think is the word... if the have evidence it was a plane in these security feeds, why werent they shown... Probably because there was no evidence... There was no plane....

*FBI breaks through house windows.... the sounds of screming authorities and multiable helicopters roaring as icewave04 is kidnapped by the FBI*

President Bush was the one who said to attack the twin towers in newyork and the other two attacks that I never heard about. Thats right he was in charge the whole time and he wanted to be mister nice guy and mister no it all.

When did he say to attack them?

He never did...... Stephen likes to make immature comments because he can't think deep politically.
That whole video was very elaborately put together. Is it true? Who can say? But it wasn't done by some big huge organization i see, so is it creditable. I could find anything on the internet. Does that mean its true?

Lots of that stuff is coincidence or bull. I'd actually like to see some hard evidence except for quotes or 'missing tapes'. Plus what about all those dead people? They were just made up? That flight and everything just made up? Sounds fishy to me. Plus it is very hard to get examiners into the pentagon area because of the very high security. So take that idea for what you want.