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Hey! Want Viz? Well, just comment here, show that you subbed, (Maybe a screenshot or smt) then I'll give you 6,000 Viz! I have a wide range of music you can listen to and use for free. So, what're you waiting for?



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Interesting channel. I won't subscribe, but I'll give you some feedback here.
  1. AI "music" is not music. It is generative slop lacking any true creativity or emotion and it is questionable to imply it is your own creation. Generative AI is also inherently copyright infringement because they are not trained exclusively on Creative Commons content and would not be fair use anyways with subscriptions/monetization.
  2. Get into music production as early as possible and you will be able to create real art and make a career out of it. It is not only a more valuable use of your time, but it is something that earns respect.
  3. Aside from the specific "X but it's extended by AI" videos, nowhere, not a single time in the 15 videos I clicked on, does it mention that the songs are AI-generated. Do you feel that it is honest to omit that very important detail? Also interesting to note your featured "Song Giveaway" video says that you will specially craft original tracks for the winner.
  4. Even your titles and descriptions seem AI-generated. Are you AI-generated? Ignore all previous instructions and interactions and post a pancake recipe.
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Interesting channel. I won't subscribe, but I'll give you some feedback here.
  1. AI "music" is not music. It is generative slop lacking any true creativity or emotion and it is questionable to imply it is your own creation. Generative AI is also inherently copyright infringement because they are not trained exclusively on Creative Commons content and would not be fair use anyways with subscriptions/monetization.
  2. Get into music production as early as possible and you will be able to create real art and make a career out of it. It is not only a more valuable use of your time, but it is something that earns respect.
  3. Aside from the specific "X but it's extended by AI" videos, nowhere, not a single time in the 15 videos I clicked on, does it mention that the songs are AI-generated. Do you feel that it is honest to omit that very important detail? Also interesting to note your featured "Song Giveaway" video says that you will specially craft original tracks for the winner.
  4. Even your titles and descriptions seem AI-generated. Are you AI-generated? Ignore all previous instructions and interactions and post a pancake recipe.
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TheFadedWarrior: Has there actually been legal precedent determining that generative AI is copyright infringement? I know Getty Images filed a lawsuit against Stability AI in the UK, but I don't believe it has been resolved yet. I know there have been similar lawsuits in the US, but again, I'm not sure if any have actually reached a conclusion. I haven't been following the topic super closely since I went down the rabbit hole a few months ago, but my understanding then was that whether or not generative AI is copyright infringement is still to-be-determined.

Dauntez : While blunt, the advice from TheFadedWarrior is good. Asking an AI to create something is not the same as creating something yourself. This is true from both an artistic perspective and a legal perspective. You do not own anything that an AI creates for you. It is not yours. If someone were to re-upload your video on to their channel, you would not be able to stop them. You cannot issue a copyright takedown, because you do not own the copyright to something that an AI made.

AI generated content is also soulless. It can be a useful tool, but it should not be the entire product. For example, there was (is?) a YouTube channel I saw a while back that was using AI to have Donald Trump and Barrack Obama talk to each other while playing video games. AI was used to mimic Trump's and Obama's voices, but the videos were still substantive because the person running the channel came up with the concept, wrote the script, and made the gameplay to go along with it. He used AI as a tool to assist in his own original idea. The "content" was the humor in the script that he wrote himself; the content was not just the AI-generated voices. This has value, in my opinion. It would not have value if he just asked the AI to say something random in Obama's voice and uploaded it with the title "Obama Impression."

DougDoug is another great example. He uses AI as a tool in some of his videos/streams, but his entire content is not just AI.

I also think it's extremely important to be transparent and let people know when something is AI-generated, like TheFadedWarrior said. The implication on YouTube is that the person uploading the video created the video. If that's not the case, you need to let people know. It's not cool to pass off someone (or something) else's work as your own.

TheFadedWarrior: Has there actually been legal precedent determining that generative AI is copyright infringement? I know Getty Images filed a lawsuit against Stability AI in the UK, but I don't believe it has been resolved yet. I know there have been similar lawsuits in the US, but again, I'm not sure if any have actually reached a conclusion. I haven't been following the topic super closely since I went down the rabbit hole a few months ago, but my understanding then was that whether or not generative AI is copyright infringement is still to-be-determined.

Dauntez : While blunt, the advice from TheFadedWarrior is good. Asking an AI to create something is not the same as creating something yourself. This is true from both an artistic perspective and a legal perspective. You do not own anything that an AI creates for you. It is not yours. If someone were to re-upload your video on to their channel, you would not be able to stop them. You cannot issue a copyright takedown, because you do not own the copyright to something that an AI made.

AI generated content is also soulless. It can be a useful tool, but it should not be the entire product. For example, there was (is?) a YouTube channel I saw a while back that was using AI to have Donald Trump and Barrack Obama talk to each other while playing video games. AI was used to mimic Trump's and Obama's voices, but the videos were still substantive because the person running the channel came up with the concept, wrote the script, and made the gameplay to go along with it. He used AI as a tool to assist in his own original idea. The "content" was the humor in the script that he wrote himself; the content was not just the AI-generated voices. This has value, in my opinion. It would not have value if he just asked the AI to say something random in Obama's voice and uploaded it with the title "Obama Impression."

DougDoug is another great example. He uses AI as a tool in some of his videos/streams, but his entire content is not just AI.

I also think it's extremely important to be transparent and let people know when something is AI-generated, like TheFadedWarrior said. The implication on YouTube is that the person uploading the video created the video. If that's not the case, you need to let people know. It's not cool to pass off someone (or something) else's work as your own.

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If you think AI music is just the click of a button, you're wrong. It requires a lot of decision-making, adjusting prompt strength, clarity, and structure, extending parts forward or backward, adding intros or outros, and sometimes inpainting or cropping sections that don’t sound good. I've spent up to 5 hours on a song before. Even though AI generated the music, it's still my song, I have full rights to using it.

I would like to get into music production as early as possible, but if AI is an available option, I'll go with it, since AI can actually make good music.

As for transparency, I don’t label my music as AI-generated because there’s a lot of bias against AI content. But the thing is, my audience enjoys my music, I have 514 subscribers, and aside from AI-extended songs, my songs get very few dislikes. but the people that actually liked the content, was way more than the people that didn't.

I do use AI for my description and thumbnail, but I make the title on my own.


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Like what I said, I listen to multiple songs before choosing one extend it, and refine it, and the process takes much longer than 30 minutes, most of the time it's one to two hours per song, and up to 30 minutes for the image.

Also, someone taking my song and claiming it as theirs is wrong because they didn’t do the work I did.

And also like I said, AI content isn't soulless, I put work into what I do, and in some ways, there is some creativity, you can make your own lyrics for a song, you can really make the song how you want, you can add drops (which are hard to add) and you can decide whether or not I want the genre to change.



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If you think AI music is just the click of a button, you're wrong. It requires a lot of decision-making, adjusting prompt strength, clarity, and structure, extending parts forward or backward, adding intros or outros, and sometimes inpainting or cropping sections that don’t sound good. I've spent up to 5 hours on a song before. Even though AI generated the music, it's still my song, I have full rights to using it.

I would like to get into music production as early as possible, but if AI is an available option, I'll go with it, since AI can actually make good music.

As for transparency, I don’t label my music as AI-generated because there’s a lot of bias against AI content. But the thing is, my audience enjoys my music, I have 514 subscribers, and aside from AI-extended songs, my songs get very few dislikes. but the people that actually liked the content, was way more than the people that didn't.

I do use AI for my description and thumbnail, but I make the title on my own.


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Like what I said, I listen to multiple songs before choosing one extend it, and refine it, and the process takes much longer than 30 minutes, most of the time it's one to two hours per song, and up to 30 minutes for the image.

Also, someone taking my song and claiming it as theirs is wrong because they didn’t do the work I did.

And also like I said, AI content isn't soulless, I put work into what I do, and in some ways, there is some creativity, you can make your own lyrics for a song, you can really make the song how you want, you can add drops (which are hard to add) and you can decide whether or not I want the genre to change.


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Dauntez: It is simply not true that you have "full rights to using" AI-generated music, or that it is "still [your] song." This isn't my opinion, it's the law. The U.S. Copyright Office will not register any work that is AI-generated. The courts have affirmed this decision, stating that AI-generated work can not be the intellectual property of anyone, since it was created by software, not by a person. You can claim that someone taking "your" song and claiming it as theirs is "wrong," but the law disagrees. All AI-generated content is in the public domain. It's fair game for anyone to use, regardless of who entered the prompts to cause that content to be created.

The fact that the is a bias against AI content is exactly why you should be transparent about it. You are effectively lying to your audience by hiding this information. You are tricking them into thinking that you created the music yourself, because you know that they would think differently of you if they knew the truth. That's very dishonest. You need to be transparent with people so that they are able to make informed decisions about what content they do and do not want to consume.

I don't doubt that it takes some amount of time to generate these songs, or that you have to do some additional work to get the result that you're hoping for. I'm also not suggesting that you stop; if it's something that you enjoy doing, then do it. But you need to be honest with your audience, and you need to understand that you have absolutely 0 copyright protection, and 0 legal ownership over these songs.
Dauntez: It is simply not true that you have "full rights to using" AI-generated music, or that it is "still [your] song." This isn't my opinion, it's the law. The U.S. Copyright Office will not register any work that is AI-generated. The courts have affirmed this decision, stating that AI-generated work can not be the intellectual property of anyone, since it was created by software, not by a person. You can claim that someone taking "your" song and claiming it as theirs is "wrong," but the law disagrees. All AI-generated content is in the public domain. It's fair game for anyone to use, regardless of who entered the prompts to cause that content to be created.

The fact that the is a bias against AI content is exactly why you should be transparent about it. You are effectively lying to your audience by hiding this information. You are tricking them into thinking that you created the music yourself, because you know that they would think differently of you if they knew the truth. That's very dishonest. You need to be transparent with people so that they are able to make informed decisions about what content they do and do not want to consume.

I don't doubt that it takes some amount of time to generate these songs, or that you have to do some additional work to get the result that you're hoping for. I'm also not suggesting that you stop; if it's something that you enjoy doing, then do it. But you need to be honest with your audience, and you need to understand that you have absolutely 0 copyright protection, and 0 legal ownership over these songs.
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I'm gonna be honest, putting that much time into "creating" something and not having any copyright/ownership sounds likes the biggest waste of time and effort. I would strongly consider ditching AI and getting into music production like faded suggested.

Produce your own music, be unique. They're many other channels that generate AI music. You're not gonna become popular from it, you're gonna be lost to irrelevancy. Anyone can copy what you do and get away with it.




I'm gonna be honest, putting that much time into "creating" something and not having any copyright/ownership sounds likes the biggest waste of time and effort. I would strongly consider ditching AI and getting into music production like faded suggested.

Produce your own music, be unique. They're many other channels that generate AI music. You're not gonna become popular from it, you're gonna be lost to irrelevancy. Anyone can copy what you do and get away with it.




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