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Do you plan on getting the NX?

 

06-06-16 10:56 AM
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I have a Wii U now. It doesn't matter if you don't, as you're not missing out much. I'd only buy NX if something interesting was released on it. Otherwise, no. You can keep sticking to the PlayStation brand. I'd want a PS4 too. I want Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy XV, along with Persona 5 and PlayStation All-stars. I'd also get Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 and Knack. Stick to what you know best. If something on a competing console interests you, go for it. Otherwise, stay sufficient.  
I have a Wii U now. It doesn't matter if you don't, as you're not missing out much. I'd only buy NX if something interesting was released on it. Otherwise, no. You can keep sticking to the PlayStation brand. I'd want a PS4 too. I want Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy XV, along with Persona 5 and PlayStation All-stars. I'd also get Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 and Knack. Stick to what you know best. If something on a competing console interests you, go for it. Otherwise, stay sufficient.  
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Long story short, no I am not planning on getting this NX thing; On the other hand, what even is it?
Long story short, no I am not planning on getting this NX thing; On the other hand, what even is it?
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No. I am just waiting for the inevitable,Nintendo to fall from its self erected pillar onto its face. They have brought their plight onto themselves with their rules,threats of lawsuits,their handling of third party stuff and releasing stuff that is shovelware.
No. I am just waiting for the inevitable,Nintendo to fall from its self erected pillar onto its face. They have brought their plight onto themselves with their rules,threats of lawsuits,their handling of third party stuff and releasing stuff that is shovelware.
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Knowing how Nintendo is.  I will not be getting an NX.


Sorry, but The next generation of the Playstation and Xbox consoles are going to destroy the NX.    Pretty much ever since the Gamecube. Nintendo consoles have always been outdone by the competition.





Besides:   I'm tired of playing New Super Mario bros Whatever name you put here.  For each console they release,   We need a good 3d Mario platformer. 
The Super Mario Galaxy games were great, but we haven't seen anything like that since.
Knowing how Nintendo is.  I will not be getting an NX.


Sorry, but The next generation of the Playstation and Xbox consoles are going to destroy the NX.    Pretty much ever since the Gamecube. Nintendo consoles have always been outdone by the competition.





Besides:   I'm tired of playing New Super Mario bros Whatever name you put here.  For each console they release,   We need a good 3d Mario platformer. 
The Super Mario Galaxy games were great, but we haven't seen anything like that since.
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I'll have to wait and see it. I probably won't get it on release, though, because being an early adopter sucks. Not to mention that the next console I get will be the first one I'll have to buy with my own money; every home console I've ever had was a Christmas present. I'm actually pretty happy with my Wii U, despite how terribly it's selling and how little 3rd party support it has, but I wouldn't want another console that has the same fate. Especially because I am so happy with the Wii U, so I don't need to replace it right away.

I'm sure Nintendo will try another unique concept for its controller, and to be honest I'm OK with that. In fact, in my opinion they have to do that. Nobody but Nintendo fans would buy a console from them that doesn't offer something different from its competitors. Think about it, who would buy a new Nintendo console to play the same game they could play on a new PlayStation or Xbox console? Nintendo already has a reputation as a kids' game company whose consoles are underpowered, have terrible online connectivity and have no 3rd party games. Even if they correct that with their next console, they'll still carry that reputation, and hardly any serious gamers are going to invest in one of their consoles if there's nothing that sets it apart aside from 1st party games. And no sales = no 3rd party support in the long run, which hurts it even more. The last Nintendo console that could compete with others in graphics and power and had a 'normal' controller was the GameCube. Which, granted, sold better than the Wii U, but sold much worse than the PS2, Xbox, and certainly the Wii. And it's not like the GameCube didn't have some compelling exclusives, both 1st and 3rd party.

As for me, my decision on buying the console will probably depend on how much I like the control concept. If it does turn out to be similar to that fake from a few weeks back (the oval-shaped one where the whole controller was a screen), then no, I probably won't get it, as that looked cumbersome and awful. If it's intriguing, intuitive, and can actually be used to make a better game, then yeah, I'll get it for sure. I genuinely think the Wii U Gamepad is a good idea, just terribly marketed and not well executed except for a few choice games.
I'll have to wait and see it. I probably won't get it on release, though, because being an early adopter sucks. Not to mention that the next console I get will be the first one I'll have to buy with my own money; every home console I've ever had was a Christmas present. I'm actually pretty happy with my Wii U, despite how terribly it's selling and how little 3rd party support it has, but I wouldn't want another console that has the same fate. Especially because I am so happy with the Wii U, so I don't need to replace it right away.

I'm sure Nintendo will try another unique concept for its controller, and to be honest I'm OK with that. In fact, in my opinion they have to do that. Nobody but Nintendo fans would buy a console from them that doesn't offer something different from its competitors. Think about it, who would buy a new Nintendo console to play the same game they could play on a new PlayStation or Xbox console? Nintendo already has a reputation as a kids' game company whose consoles are underpowered, have terrible online connectivity and have no 3rd party games. Even if they correct that with their next console, they'll still carry that reputation, and hardly any serious gamers are going to invest in one of their consoles if there's nothing that sets it apart aside from 1st party games. And no sales = no 3rd party support in the long run, which hurts it even more. The last Nintendo console that could compete with others in graphics and power and had a 'normal' controller was the GameCube. Which, granted, sold better than the Wii U, but sold much worse than the PS2, Xbox, and certainly the Wii. And it's not like the GameCube didn't have some compelling exclusives, both 1st and 3rd party.

As for me, my decision on buying the console will probably depend on how much I like the control concept. If it does turn out to be similar to that fake from a few weeks back (the oval-shaped one where the whole controller was a screen), then no, I probably won't get it, as that looked cumbersome and awful. If it's intriguing, intuitive, and can actually be used to make a better game, then yeah, I'll get it for sure. I genuinely think the Wii U Gamepad is a good idea, just terribly marketed and not well executed except for a few choice games.
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Guy A. Person : I'm willing to bet had they just ditched the gamepad it could've done a lot better. Because it would've sold for a lot cheaper. Which is going to appeal to the casual gamer group who don't want to spend a lot of money. Which is the people that caused the Wii to do so well. Not to mention it's a controller idea many more serious gamers dislike with many prefering a more standard controller leading to the introduction of the pro controller.

With the exception of the Wii, people buy nintendo consoles primarily for the 1st party franchises they have like Zelda and Mario. Not the console itself. There are many people who enjoy those franchises but skipped out on the Wii U because it was too expensive for them to buy more than one console and then they're going to want to go with a console like the PS4 that has both a lot of good exclusive games and overall has very good 3rd party support. I'm one of those people. The gamepad hasn't really been utilised enough to justify the added price.

Almost nobody but those who only care for Nintendo games are going to buy it otherwise. Sure the Wii was different but that's because it was a fad. People bought it because motion gaming was made to look like the next big thing but then barely bought any actual games. It gave them the wrong idea of what would sell needing to have a gimmick, which landed them in the spot they are now. Subsequently that's what I'm afraid will happen with the NX as well.
Guy A. Person : I'm willing to bet had they just ditched the gamepad it could've done a lot better. Because it would've sold for a lot cheaper. Which is going to appeal to the casual gamer group who don't want to spend a lot of money. Which is the people that caused the Wii to do so well. Not to mention it's a controller idea many more serious gamers dislike with many prefering a more standard controller leading to the introduction of the pro controller.

With the exception of the Wii, people buy nintendo consoles primarily for the 1st party franchises they have like Zelda and Mario. Not the console itself. There are many people who enjoy those franchises but skipped out on the Wii U because it was too expensive for them to buy more than one console and then they're going to want to go with a console like the PS4 that has both a lot of good exclusive games and overall has very good 3rd party support. I'm one of those people. The gamepad hasn't really been utilised enough to justify the added price.

Almost nobody but those who only care for Nintendo games are going to buy it otherwise. Sure the Wii was different but that's because it was a fad. People bought it because motion gaming was made to look like the next big thing but then barely bought any actual games. It gave them the wrong idea of what would sell needing to have a gimmick, which landed them in the spot they are now. Subsequently that's what I'm afraid will happen with the NX as well.
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I don't see myself getting one, I like Nintendo, but it seems like Nintendo doesn't seem to know where it's going with its hardware.

If it launches and has must have games, I'll buy, but it needs to have 3rd party stuff too. In fact I honestly don't understand why Nintendo doesn't try to keep 3rd party devs. If the NX is powerful, has those great Nintendo games, and has most major 3rd party developers on board treating the system as an equal to the PS4, Xbox One and PC. Then the system will probably do very well. Regardless, I don't think I'm considering getting one right know. I'm going to wait and see what it can do so far as games go.
I don't see myself getting one, I like Nintendo, but it seems like Nintendo doesn't seem to know where it's going with its hardware.

If it launches and has must have games, I'll buy, but it needs to have 3rd party stuff too. In fact I honestly don't understand why Nintendo doesn't try to keep 3rd party devs. If the NX is powerful, has those great Nintendo games, and has most major 3rd party developers on board treating the system as an equal to the PS4, Xbox One and PC. Then the system will probably do very well. Regardless, I don't think I'm considering getting one right know. I'm going to wait and see what it can do so far as games go.
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Zlinqx : The Wii U isn't even really that expensive. The Wii launched for $250, the Wii U launched for $300. The biggest difference was the Wii U had terrible, unclear marketing, and by the time most people even understood what it was, it was already obvious to any potential buyers that it was a dead console. I can't imagine Nintendo will make the same mistake marketing the NX.

And honestly? I think Nintendo needs a "fad" to have any home console success at all. Other than the Wii, the last truly successful Nintendo home console was the SNES. That's 25 years ago. Since then, it's Nintendo's reputation that's let them down, ever since Sony marketed the PS as an more grown-up alternative to Nintendo and Sega's kid's toys. Even if it wasn't completely true, the campaign worked, and that's been the perception ever since. That's why Nintendo needs another gimmick, but this time something with some longevity. Honestly, I think the GamePad is a concept that could work in the long term. Sadly, developers don't seem to understand how to use it to make a better gaming experience, not even Nintendo themselves sometimes. And like motion controls, developers' failure to legitimize the concept has basically rendered it dead, which is a shame.

But think about it, for the first 20 or so years of home gaming, the controller never stayed the same from generation to generation. From the D-Pad, to shoulder buttons, to the analog stick, every generation brought something new. Eventually we all seemed to decide that the dual analog PS controller would be the standard, but IMO there's no reason why it has to stay that way. Sure, it's what we're all used to, but I don't think that means it's automatically better. If gamers in the mid 90's had the same mentality they have today of "it's not what I'm used to, therefore it sucks," it's entirely possible controllers today wouldn't have analog sticks. Nintendo needs to do what they did with the Wii and convince these people that a different sort of controller can work, but unlike with the Wii, they also need to keep convincing them for the whole generation. It won't be easy, but to me it's the only way they survive as a home console manufacturer.
Zlinqx : The Wii U isn't even really that expensive. The Wii launched for $250, the Wii U launched for $300. The biggest difference was the Wii U had terrible, unclear marketing, and by the time most people even understood what it was, it was already obvious to any potential buyers that it was a dead console. I can't imagine Nintendo will make the same mistake marketing the NX.

And honestly? I think Nintendo needs a "fad" to have any home console success at all. Other than the Wii, the last truly successful Nintendo home console was the SNES. That's 25 years ago. Since then, it's Nintendo's reputation that's let them down, ever since Sony marketed the PS as an more grown-up alternative to Nintendo and Sega's kid's toys. Even if it wasn't completely true, the campaign worked, and that's been the perception ever since. That's why Nintendo needs another gimmick, but this time something with some longevity. Honestly, I think the GamePad is a concept that could work in the long term. Sadly, developers don't seem to understand how to use it to make a better gaming experience, not even Nintendo themselves sometimes. And like motion controls, developers' failure to legitimize the concept has basically rendered it dead, which is a shame.

But think about it, for the first 20 or so years of home gaming, the controller never stayed the same from generation to generation. From the D-Pad, to shoulder buttons, to the analog stick, every generation brought something new. Eventually we all seemed to decide that the dual analog PS controller would be the standard, but IMO there's no reason why it has to stay that way. Sure, it's what we're all used to, but I don't think that means it's automatically better. If gamers in the mid 90's had the same mentality they have today of "it's not what I'm used to, therefore it sucks," it's entirely possible controllers today wouldn't have analog sticks. Nintendo needs to do what they did with the Wii and convince these people that a different sort of controller can work, but unlike with the Wii, they also need to keep convincing them for the whole generation. It won't be easy, but to me it's the only way they survive as a home console manufacturer.
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I currently have zero interest in buying anything made by Nintendo again. A few months ago I was still saying I wanted an NX IF it was powerful enough to get that initial third party push then sales then success and all that jazz. Why? I said no one could compete with Nintendo's first party appeal and that they had a sort of magic about said games...then we got an N64 for my nephew (had one growing up and remembered it as being amazing) and a 3DS for the other nephew along with New Super Mario Bros.

NSMB played just like I expected it too and was so hyped for...then I played it and realized it was incredibly (and I use that word in it's most literal sense here) boring. I have no idea what happened, but I just found what I once considered one of the greatest game formulas ever to be utterly uninteresting, like I would rather play nothing at all than play it. Now I mean no hate for the game, and to the fans I say: more power to you. I'm sure it's a gem to the right crowd. I used to be part of that crowd but I'm just not anymore for some reason.

Then the N64...I got the nephew one of the best games for it by my estimation back in the day (and I've played a lot of N64 games) and it too was bland. I can't enjoy it in the least, even in multiplayer which - as anyone that knows my gaming preferences can tell you - is saying a lot, as I love multiplayer to no end.
And it wasn't just that game: I got three and they all felt "meh" at best and bad at worst, and these were all games I knew to be gems for the system.

And last of all, I once adored the GameCube, but after finally getting one years later, none of the games I found incredible appeal to me anymore, and the system itself just doesn't have anything for me. Saddened me to realize that because it was such a great memory for me.


This all leads me to the realization that I just don't like Ninty anymore. Now I find PlayStation's exclusives AND first party titles to be far superior for my gaming preferences. Am I saying PS is better than the big N? No, that's a matter of personal preference. I'm just saying my personal preference is to save my money on a new console that I personally won't enjoy and pick up some more games on one I love so much that I have to force myself to put the controller away. Lol
I currently have zero interest in buying anything made by Nintendo again. A few months ago I was still saying I wanted an NX IF it was powerful enough to get that initial third party push then sales then success and all that jazz. Why? I said no one could compete with Nintendo's first party appeal and that they had a sort of magic about said games...then we got an N64 for my nephew (had one growing up and remembered it as being amazing) and a 3DS for the other nephew along with New Super Mario Bros.

NSMB played just like I expected it too and was so hyped for...then I played it and realized it was incredibly (and I use that word in it's most literal sense here) boring. I have no idea what happened, but I just found what I once considered one of the greatest game formulas ever to be utterly uninteresting, like I would rather play nothing at all than play it. Now I mean no hate for the game, and to the fans I say: more power to you. I'm sure it's a gem to the right crowd. I used to be part of that crowd but I'm just not anymore for some reason.

Then the N64...I got the nephew one of the best games for it by my estimation back in the day (and I've played a lot of N64 games) and it too was bland. I can't enjoy it in the least, even in multiplayer which - as anyone that knows my gaming preferences can tell you - is saying a lot, as I love multiplayer to no end.
And it wasn't just that game: I got three and they all felt "meh" at best and bad at worst, and these were all games I knew to be gems for the system.

And last of all, I once adored the GameCube, but after finally getting one years later, none of the games I found incredible appeal to me anymore, and the system itself just doesn't have anything for me. Saddened me to realize that because it was such a great memory for me.


This all leads me to the realization that I just don't like Ninty anymore. Now I find PlayStation's exclusives AND first party titles to be far superior for my gaming preferences. Am I saying PS is better than the big N? No, that's a matter of personal preference. I'm just saying my personal preference is to save my money on a new console that I personally won't enjoy and pick up some more games on one I love so much that I have to force myself to put the controller away. Lol
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Me buy the NX? No. Obvious reason is Nintendo removing all their games from Vizzed; I understand why they did it, but it wasn't necessary and probably didn't help them financially through the eShop as much as they hoped for thus far.

Also I couldn't afford it if I wanted to buy it. My latest next-gen consoles consist of Wii, PS2, and PS3 and that's it. Can't afford to buy new consoles
Me buy the NX? No. Obvious reason is Nintendo removing all their games from Vizzed; I understand why they did it, but it wasn't necessary and probably didn't help them financially through the eShop as much as they hoped for thus far.

Also I couldn't afford it if I wanted to buy it. My latest next-gen consoles consist of Wii, PS2, and PS3 and that's it. Can't afford to buy new consoles
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I don't know about this one. I really want the new Zelda, and it comes out the month of my birthday...

But on the other hand. I am getting real sick of Nintendo's anti-consumer policies. Plus I got the Wii U when it first released. And I can tell you, it was NOT fun to dig the wii back up and play that for another two years before any games came out. The 3DS had that issue too. So I think the best thing to do, unless the next Zelda really blows my mind, is wait awhile for the inevitable price drop before buying.
I don't know about this one. I really want the new Zelda, and it comes out the month of my birthday...

But on the other hand. I am getting real sick of Nintendo's anti-consumer policies. Plus I got the Wii U when it first released. And I can tell you, it was NOT fun to dig the wii back up and play that for another two years before any games came out. The 3DS had that issue too. So I think the best thing to do, unless the next Zelda really blows my mind, is wait awhile for the inevitable price drop before buying.
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tRIUNE : I agree with you, but not only because of the fact they removed games from Vizzed, that's a big factor in it without a doubt, my problem is that their newer games just do nothing for me besides Fire Emblem and Smash, as well as their heavy censorship. When I play a game from Japan, I would like the game to just be translated and nothing more. Instead, what does Nintendo do? Unfunny stuff like this



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tRIUNE : I agree with you, but not only because of the fact they removed games from Vizzed, that's a big factor in it without a doubt, my problem is that their newer games just do nothing for me besides Fire Emblem and Smash, as well as their heavy censorship. When I play a game from Japan, I would like the game to just be translated and nothing more. Instead, what does Nintendo do? Unfunny stuff like this



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No, I don't.
Haven't bought any 8th generation consoles and I decided to stop buying any after the 7th because it's going to be DLC hell, etc. and Nintendo aren't a company I like anymore.
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I have had a Wii U for 3 years, but so far I'm not interested in buying the NX console. I really like the Wii U and since I already have a Wii U and a 3DS that I'm satisfied with, I'm likely not going to buy any other game consoles. Plus I only have one TV in my house that I can use for my game consoles, and it would be a huge pain to unplug my Wii U and plug in the NX once in a while.
I have had a Wii U for 3 years, but so far I'm not interested in buying the NX console. I really like the Wii U and since I already have a Wii U and a 3DS that I'm satisfied with, I'm likely not going to buy any other game consoles. Plus I only have one TV in my house that I can use for my game consoles, and it would be a huge pain to unplug my Wii U and plug in the NX once in a while.
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Guy A. Person : I disagree. Yes the Wii U is cheaper than the PS4 or Xbox One but it should be considered its hardware is much more dated. The thing is it's not cheap enough which makes it so it's still competing with those two consoles and it's simply not going to be able to match them in terms of 3rd party support or have the same capabilities as those consoles.

Obviously Nintendo isn't going to capture the dedicated PS4 or Xbox One fans. But lowering the price would put them in a market of their own as the gamepad adds a very significant cost. Which will suddenly make it appeal to a lot of people. It's going to appeal to casual gamers the most easily swayed group, who don't want to spend a lot of money and who like the accessibility of many nintendo games like mario. It's going to appeal to gamers on a budget who can't or don't want to spend a lot of money as Nintendo would be the first low budget home console alternative on the market AND it would even appeal to some of those who don't want it as their primary console but do enjoy Nintendo games as the significantly cheaper cost may make them consider getting it alongside their primary console of choice to play the Nintendo games they are interested in like Smash or Mario Kart. Especially since Nintendo doesn't have any service like PS+ or Xbox Gold forcing people to pay extra.

It's going to be very hard for any console to compete with them in this regard because they're not going to have the first party IPs that allows them to compete and many of the exclusive games on other consoles like the PS4 are made by 3rd party developers and are designed specifically to take advantage of more powerful hardware. Thus it could making Nintendo the indisputable champions of low budget gaming.

This is all ignoring the fact that it wouldn't make them have to get rid of the gamepad. Most games, even those made by Nintendo don't really utilise the gamepad, the games wouldn't have played much differently had they excluded it, making it more of a gimmick than anything. They could've still added it as an optional add on giving people the choice. Honestly though how many Wii U owners can actually say the reason they bought the console was the console itself and not the games? I don't think it would've been nearly as successful if Nintendo didn't have so many well established exclusive IPs.

Also I don't think you can blame developers for the failure of the gamepad. The lack of 3rd party support is entirely on Nintendo through their unfriendly policies where they require certain exclusivity, bad marketing where they lead many to believe the Wii U was an add on the Wii and stupid decisions like adding U to the end of every game title. Also the vastly inferior and importantly poorly optimized hardware making it cumbersome to develop for. Had they gotten rid of the gamepad it would also allow them to focus on making the console easier to develop and port games to. All this combines to help them put them in the situation where they only have their 1st party games to rely on.

I think what you're ignoring about change is that just because something is different that doesn't make it good. The PS controller became standard because it allowed for developers to have much more freedom and possibilities in developing games thanks to the new buttons without making the controller uncomfortable to use. The Wii on the other didn't sell because motion gaming actually was a step in the right direction but because it was made to look like it was. Nearly anyone who looks back at motion gaming today agrees it's stupid concept and much prefer a traditional controller to use for gaming. If you don't believe me take a look at the new kinect for the Xbox One. Microsoft has made huge strides in making motion technology more advanced, much more advanced than the wii or even the xbox 360 kinect, yet no one actually cares. In fact it was one of the reasons it Xbox One became less popular than the PS4. Because they forcefully bundled it with the console increasing the price just like Nintendo is doing with the gamepad making it unappealing to the cheaper PS4. They realized this and started selling the console separately which allowed it to do better but by then the PS4 had already emerged as the clear dominant console of this generation.

They should shift their marketing away from the console and focusing on marketing it as a low budget option and most importantly marketing the actual games they have going for them. Because the 1st party games is what make Nintendo consoles appealing to the vast majority of gamers regardless of if they're casual gamers or dedicated fans, not the console itself.
Guy A. Person : I disagree. Yes the Wii U is cheaper than the PS4 or Xbox One but it should be considered its hardware is much more dated. The thing is it's not cheap enough which makes it so it's still competing with those two consoles and it's simply not going to be able to match them in terms of 3rd party support or have the same capabilities as those consoles.

Obviously Nintendo isn't going to capture the dedicated PS4 or Xbox One fans. But lowering the price would put them in a market of their own as the gamepad adds a very significant cost. Which will suddenly make it appeal to a lot of people. It's going to appeal to casual gamers the most easily swayed group, who don't want to spend a lot of money and who like the accessibility of many nintendo games like mario. It's going to appeal to gamers on a budget who can't or don't want to spend a lot of money as Nintendo would be the first low budget home console alternative on the market AND it would even appeal to some of those who don't want it as their primary console but do enjoy Nintendo games as the significantly cheaper cost may make them consider getting it alongside their primary console of choice to play the Nintendo games they are interested in like Smash or Mario Kart. Especially since Nintendo doesn't have any service like PS+ or Xbox Gold forcing people to pay extra.

It's going to be very hard for any console to compete with them in this regard because they're not going to have the first party IPs that allows them to compete and many of the exclusive games on other consoles like the PS4 are made by 3rd party developers and are designed specifically to take advantage of more powerful hardware. Thus it could making Nintendo the indisputable champions of low budget gaming.

This is all ignoring the fact that it wouldn't make them have to get rid of the gamepad. Most games, even those made by Nintendo don't really utilise the gamepad, the games wouldn't have played much differently had they excluded it, making it more of a gimmick than anything. They could've still added it as an optional add on giving people the choice. Honestly though how many Wii U owners can actually say the reason they bought the console was the console itself and not the games? I don't think it would've been nearly as successful if Nintendo didn't have so many well established exclusive IPs.

Also I don't think you can blame developers for the failure of the gamepad. The lack of 3rd party support is entirely on Nintendo through their unfriendly policies where they require certain exclusivity, bad marketing where they lead many to believe the Wii U was an add on the Wii and stupid decisions like adding U to the end of every game title. Also the vastly inferior and importantly poorly optimized hardware making it cumbersome to develop for. Had they gotten rid of the gamepad it would also allow them to focus on making the console easier to develop and port games to. All this combines to help them put them in the situation where they only have their 1st party games to rely on.

I think what you're ignoring about change is that just because something is different that doesn't make it good. The PS controller became standard because it allowed for developers to have much more freedom and possibilities in developing games thanks to the new buttons without making the controller uncomfortable to use. The Wii on the other didn't sell because motion gaming actually was a step in the right direction but because it was made to look like it was. Nearly anyone who looks back at motion gaming today agrees it's stupid concept and much prefer a traditional controller to use for gaming. If you don't believe me take a look at the new kinect for the Xbox One. Microsoft has made huge strides in making motion technology more advanced, much more advanced than the wii or even the xbox 360 kinect, yet no one actually cares. In fact it was one of the reasons it Xbox One became less popular than the PS4. Because they forcefully bundled it with the console increasing the price just like Nintendo is doing with the gamepad making it unappealing to the cheaper PS4. They realized this and started selling the console separately which allowed it to do better but by then the PS4 had already emerged as the clear dominant console of this generation.

They should shift their marketing away from the console and focusing on marketing it as a low budget option and most importantly marketing the actual games they have going for them. Because the 1st party games is what make Nintendo consoles appealing to the vast majority of gamers regardless of if they're casual gamers or dedicated fans, not the console itself.
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