I read through all the first part of the discussion. Jigsaw has currently been banned. Anyway I must say people who truly believe in God should have said something a little more convincing towards Jigsaws statement about the "Virgin Mary". The idea that she inseminated sperm into herself or aliens did it during a time when that was unheard of could be possible. I find anything is possible in life the fact that he came up with such an idea would prove he has some belief in "Intervention". We must stop acting as though we know everything that goes on in the universe or even the world. God can do anything. Stop limiting his actions to what the bible says. Remember the bible doesn't cover every single day of existence. Think what could be going on in the center of the Earth, in a distant galaxy, even on the spectral plane. I don't think people get the fact that while we a flesh on this Planet we are allowed to see and hear what God has intend us to hear and see. We are not powerful Mister Jigsaw. You think you are so strong yet awww!!! you have to eat food to live. We humans are so strong that we can, what "fart". I know we humans are so powerful that we can kill one another "wait don't we die anyway". Look we are Gods children his creations, his family. If faith can be compared to a game of chess we how many people are on Gods side of the board(believers) and how many on Satans (Non believers).
We may all think of petty reasons for why "Satan" seems to rule this world but in all honest truth bad things that happen occur because we are disobedient, unfaithful, disrespectful, and simply petty. Remember we are given "toys" to play with (the elements, our bodies, and minds), it's up to us to decide if we use them for good purposes or evil. Eve didn't have to eat the apple she just choose to do so. Adam didn't have to take a bit out of the apple but he choose to. The concept of choice exist today, "what will you do". Will you strive to be an obedient child, or will you pretend to be more knowing than your Creator (Satan). One thing I always thought about telling people is if you don't believe in God (Atheist) try to obey as many principles from religious beliefs that you can. It's better to be safe than sorry. There are many different species of animal on this planet yet they live in a fixed existence. We humans are capable of doing so many things that they cannot yet no one sees this as proof of what we have going for us. Gratitude is often overlooked and replaced with ungratefulness.
If anyone believes in angels why would we think Zeus, Athena, Ares, etc. couldn't be real. We see fossils of huge dinosaurs yet some don't believe giants once walked the earth. We cannot see air yet it is there. We cannot see people from 10 miles from us but they are there. My point is simple if you think "aliens" made Mary pregnant by who's orders were they doing this by. The thing we all know for sure is that there are rules to life (physical and spiritual). The one thing I see from people is that we have imagination, the ideas we think of can't God do them. so are they even our ideas to begin with. Is God not sharing his knowledge with us. How we use these ideas determines if you Obey God or side with the Devil.

I tried reading all of that, I really did.. but without paragraphs it hurt my eyes.

The other thread was closed for a reason.
Because of closed minded individuals and to stop it becoming a flame war.
Which I might add you have succeeded in doing so by saying I'm on satans side.

Originally posted by WillowCrystalis

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If faith can be compared to a game of chess we how many people are on Gods side of the board(believers) and how many on Satans (Non believers).

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Thanks alot. Just because someone doesn't believe in your fairy tales is no reason to say they are pawns of evil.

Originally posted by WillowCrystalis

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One thing I always thought about telling people is if you don't believe in God (Atheist) try to obey as many principles from religious beliefs that you can.

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You do relise that principles from religious beliefs are not always the same as what is right and just.
No, of course you don't, what was I thinking.
Oh yeah, and maybe you should get your facts right, Atheisim is believing god isn't real.
That's different to not believing in god. One is a belief (Atheisim) the other is just not believing in stories.

And this post proves why the other thread was closed.