Fire Emblem: Sacred Contention is a hack made by Blazer and DH Ninja, two of my fellow hacker friends in the Fire Emblem fandom. I love this game so much that I have decided to write a review for it. I would also recommend you watch my youtube Let's Play of it if you want further elaboration on strengths and weaknesses. Also note, that I am going to be remaking this game on the FEXNA game dev platform when it is completed, probably later this year. (2015)



My Let's Play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZqwxMOPR8




The premise of this hack is very good, though certain elements of the execution are... ehh... sloppy. For one thing, the FE8 side is ridiculously overpowered. How so? Let's see.

I can't edit my post for some reason. I'll repost my review here.



Fire Emblem: Sacred Contention is a hack made by Blazer and DH Ninja, two of my fellow hacker friends in the Fire Emblem fandom. I love this game so much that I have decided to write a review for it. I would also recommend you watch my youtube Let's Play of it if you want further elaboration on strengths and weaknesses. Also note, that I am going to be remaking this game on the FEXNA game dev platform when it is completed, probably later this year. (2015)



My Let's Play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZqwxMOPR8




The premise of this hack is very good, though certain elements of the execution are... ehh... sloppy. For one thing, the FE8 side is ridiculously overpowered. How so? Let's see.

Triple post... I can't get the damn post to work correctly. This site has serious issues.

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Just delete the whole thread and I'll try reposting or something... idk.

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Please trash so OP can try to repost it. (he sent a PM request)

My guess is that it's a glitch with the new post editor, so he might need to use the old post editor and html codes to format.

I'll try it now then, just to be sure.

Edit: Nope, still broken. Man, this site is in dire need of upgrades.... and just quality of life adjustments.

Fire Emblem: Sacred Contention is a hack made by Blazer and DH Ninja, two of my fellow hacker friends in the Fire Emblem fandom. I love this game so much that I have decided to write a review for it. I would also recommend you watch my youtube Let's Play of it if you want further elaboration on strengths and weaknesses. Also note, that I am going to be remaking this game on the FEXNA game dev platform when it is completed, probably later this year. (2015)

My Let's Play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZqwxMOPR8


The premise of this hack is very good, though certain elements of the execution are... ehh... sloppy. For one thing, the FE8 side is ridiculously overpowered. How so? Let's see.

The Statistical Breakdown
FE7 has one additional unit over FE8, and that extra unit could be considered one of the dancer/bard characters. FE7 has Ninian and Nils, while FE8 only has Tethys. Otherwise, they're about the same.



FE7 has:

God units. These are units that are so destructive it's not even fair. FE7's god units are;

Nergal, Athos (Both have an S rank in all four magics), Hector, Lyndis, Oswin, Heath, Pegasi Sisters, NINO (She supports with 4 people plus almost entirely maxed stats! Best unit on the FE7 side IMO), Lucius (The only character with an S rank weapon, Aureola, but I'll get to that in a bit, Limstella (Not as godly, but with DEF and RES at 24+, not somebody to mess with) and Dart.



FE8 has;

Ephraim and Eirika (Both are just so ridiculous it's sad, plus Ephraim's Siegmund has 1-2 range >.>), Lyon (He's tough as nails), Morva and Myrhh (They have stats off the charts), Marisa and Joshua (Joshua holds an S rank weapon), L'Arachel (Seriously, it's sad how uber she is), ALL Of the paladins are very powerful, not to mention Amelia is so powerful it took 6 units to kill her off, and she wasn't even on a forest/fort tile... Next is Lute who has Excalibur with +5 SPD and she drops this if you are playing FE7 and kill her, then comes Artur who ALSO wields an S rank tome, Ross is a wall of flesh to fight (Wields ANOTHER S rank weapon), and finally, Neimi, who wields a Brave bow.



Let's check the unit class lineup.



Lords;

FE7; Hector, Lyn, Eliwood.

FE8; Eirika and Ephraim. Ephraim is the only lord with a 1-2 range weapon, and it's extremely powerful.

Swordmasters;

FE7; Guy, Karel, Karla, Lloyd (Who is arguably the best because of his support triangle with Nino, Legault, and Linus).

FE8; Joshua, Marisa, Carlyle, Ismaire. Joshua and Marisa are great, the other two are terrible.

Heroes;

FE7; Raven, Harken, (Who is arguably worthless because he's slow and underpowered) and Linus (Who is arguably OP with his three supports).

FE8; Gerik and Caellach. Gerik is extremely good, Caellach is pretty much useless.

Assassins;

FE7; Matthew, Jaffar, Legault. Assassins in this hack are pretty terrible. Their Lethality skill has little chance of activating because most units will have excellent LUK growth.

FE8; Colm is your only Assassin, and Rennac is a rogue, but Rennac is the only unit on either side who can steal. I think Colm stole an elixir once, so maybe assassins can steal in this hack.

Paladins; (This one is a biggie. FE8 paladins are vastly more powerful than FE7 paladins.)

FE7; Sain, (Max STR) Kent, (Max SKL and SPD) Lowen, (No maxed stats but he has 24 DEF) Marcus, (Your best paladin by far for FE7, I'm not even kidding.) Isadora (Yeah she's worthless).

FE8; Amelia (Almost all of her stats are maxed), Kyle, Forde, Franz, Seth (All are much better than any FE7 pally), and Orson. Duessel is worthless BTW, and he's a Great Knight.

Generals;

(FE7 has the upper hand here in stats, but as you'll see later, all of FE7's upper hand stats are bullified by a powerful bonus FE8 has.)

FE7; Oswin of course is the best, then there's Wallace, who actually doesn't suck that bad.

FE8; Gilliam, Fado, and Vigarde. All have a crapton of DEF and are easily killable with NINO any magic user. However, if you don't have any available, they're a real pain to kill.

Berserkers;

FE7; Dart and Hawkeye. I've never once been able to use Hawkeye in battle because he starts out way behind everyone else on the field.

FE8; Ross and Dozla. Ross has a Basilikos though, so don't laugh. Dozla is literally useless.

Warriors;

FE7; Bartre, Dorcas, and Geitz. The first two aren't very good, but Geitz is very useful.

FE8; Garcia, Gheb, and Binks. Gheb and Binks are virtually useless, even compared to Dorcas and Bartre. That's saying a lot.

Fliers;

(FE8 has the bonus of three Wyverns and three pegasi VS 2 and 3 in FE7.)

FE7; Florina, Farina, Fiora, Vaida (She's nearly worthless), and Heath (VERY powerful!).

FE8; Vanessa, Tana, Syrene (Tana is the only good one), Cormag, Glen, and Valter (Wyvern Knight). I think Valter might have the pierce attack, but I'm not certain. I haven't seen it if he does.

Bow Users; (Keep in mind that on the FE7 side, Geitz is a very good Bow user, but he's not counted because he's a warrior and not a Sniper, Nomad Trooper, or Ranger.)

FE7; Rebecca, Wil, LOLouise, and Rath.

FE8; Neimi (She comes with a brave bow), Innes (Comes with a Rienfleche which is an FE7 weapon, for real Blazer? I gave it to Neimi, she's a better bow user.), and Hayden. Hayden sucks lol. But he has a white gem, which is useful if you buy from the shops.

God Units and Dark Users;

FE7; Athos, Nergal, and Canas. All can use Luna, but they're pretty much locked to their respective Prf tomes.

FE8; Lyon, Myrrh, Morva, and Knoll. (Don't lol at Knoll. He's the only dark magic user on the field with a Nosferatu and he's a pain to kill. If you play as FE8, give that Nosferatu to Lyon and he'll never die.) Myrrh and Morva are extremely powerful, but Morva is significantly better because of higher stat caps.

Anima Users;

FE7; Priscilla, Pent, (Both have physic staves) Erk, Limstella (The one with the beastly DEF), Sonia, and Nino. Always keep Nino supported, and use the thunder tome, and she likely won't die for a long time.

FE8; Selena, (Very good stats, all over 20, but not over 24) Ewan, (Why the f*** isn't he a Druid? And he sucks with his Elfire BTW) Saleh (He's ass), and Lute, who wields Excalibur and gets +5 to her 24 existing speed, for a total of 29. Plus she has 30 MAG)

Light Magic users; Valkyries and Bishops only. The Slayer skill does not exist.

FE7; Lucius, (the only FE7 unit with a S ranked weapon/tome. And PRF weapons are not counted) Serra (Fortify staff is epic), and Renault (14 MAG = Ew)

FE8; Artur (He has the Luce tome, which is far better than Aureola.) Riev (He's all right but not great), Moulder (S rank in staves? Why??), Natasha (She has beastly stats but a crappy tome), and L'Arachel (Also awesome stats but a crappy tome).

Dancers and Bards;

FE7 has Nils and Ninian.

FE8 has Tethys.

(FE7 obviously has a better chance here because you can revive two units per battle instead of just one.)



So, upon looking at the unit lineup and their Stats, FE7 seems to have an edge. But, FE8 has a few things that make it way OP.

-A huge number of S rank weapons and tomes, swappable between units as needed, while FE7 is heavy on PRF tomes and weapons, which are locked to each character.

-Better god characters. Nergal is beastly, and while Athos and Nergal both wield all 4 S rank magics, it does them no good because they have no good magics to wield. (There is only one luna tome available for each side) FE8 has two dragon characters with omega godly stats, whose only weaknesses are Aureola, Luna, Forblaze, (Bows too?) the lord weapons like Armads and such, and plain old characters with an insane amount of power. However, the dragons can usually OHKO any unit they attack, particularly Morva. In addition, While Lyon isn't quite up to par with Nergal... he has Gleipnir. Yeah. He will always destroy Athos if you give Athos Forblaze.

-The FE8 Terrain is better than the FE7 terrain. It's easy to take your three FE8 generals and just make a wall and demolish the FE7 characters.(See part 2 of my LP for proof of this) Lyon himself is a wall of living flesh lol. On the FE7 side however, you just have a wide open area where you can easily pick FE7 characters off if you're FE8.



Now, personally, I base my judgement of the game on the fact that had I been the one with Blazer's skill level, I'd have done some things differently. (In fact, I'm making a remake of this hack using FEXNA, find the link here.) For example, FE8 characters in many cases have legendary weapons from FE7. Despite both casts having an almost identical number of characters, FE8's cast gets superior terrain, better weapons, and an unbeatable support cluster. (Ephraim, Eirika, Lyon all combine for incredible power, while Morva, Myrrh, and Lyon also combine together to make a wall of flesh.)



Another big issue is that it can be extremely tedious moving units around since you have 50 units on either side. Moving units around takes between 3 and 15 minutes each turn, depending on how fast you move, unless you just give up and move a core team forwards. Ideally, in my remake, I'll be able to implement the FE13 auto-move system so as to reduce the player's tedium.



In conclusion, Blazer and DH_Ninja went to a lot of trouble, and it's very enjoyable, but it's just way imbalanced. Perhaps in the near future my version will be released and everyone will be able to play a more fulfilling version that they've always wanted.



7/10

Ah OMG, I can't believe it posted! However, now there's the issue that it removed all my special formatting and the post... itlooks like crap. Ugh, this doesn't even seem worth it anymore.
Yeah, just trash the thread. Never mind, writing reviews isn't worth it if it's gonna be this much trouble.

Klokinator :

It does take some time to get the formatting, but once you get it once, that same code can be adjusted/re-used for other reviews.

Local Mods - just clarifying that he still wants it taken down, make sure to ignore words/cp so he can try posting again if he wants to.

I actually found out that newbies have all HTML formatting removed. I'll repost this in a week when I'm a regular member.

I have went ahead and Ignored the words and I'll go ahead and trash this.

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