i personally love the gays, lesbians, bis, and transexuals
it truly infuriates me how they are discriminated against for just being different
its not right at all and anyone who gay bashes should get their asses kicked brutally

I believe what Sylvia Browne says: People tend to be more gender more than the other (ie, some would be a guy more than a girl). The sex you like depends on the sex you are more. If you're a guy more, you'll like girls, even if you're a girl. If you're a girl more, you'll like guys, even if you're a guy.

I don't see anything wrong with gays. You like who you like. Just because they're gay doesn't mean that they're after every man's penis. They like who they like, just as straight guys like who they like. As long as they don't come onto me, I'll be fine with them.

I have nothing against gays. I have loads against the whole "pride festival look at us we're alternative accept us and give us festivals.".

Ok so you're gay, don't just flaunt it around for attention. Idiots.

I dont care what sexuality you are just as long as you dont do it to animals your ok in my book

i agree with Dragon Master
its good that you're proud of who you are but dont wave it in our faces
its just a bit too much

I support gays *cough becauseiamonecough* but right now the whole "support us" and "defend us all the time" thing is getting out of hand. There are now thoughts of passing a 'thought police' bill in the US; Congress wants to jail and punish anyone who states their opinion if it's harmful. I think people have the right to verbally speak against what they don't support, as long as they don't physically harm the people they're against.

Anyway, the festivals as DM says are too much. There's one pride festival a year where I live, which I'm going to; it's in June, but I know a lot of places that have several or even a dozen a year.

What really pisses me off, is when people say they don't hate gays but still use the word gay as a derogatory term. I'm not gay myself, but I'm a big defender of gay rights

They're trying to make it illegal to discriminate against gay people which means, gay bashing = a fine.

What's crazy about this is, you get in trouble for discriminating against gay people but people are encouraged to discriminate against Christians. I get discriminated against more often than the average gay person and I see offensive stuff toward Christians all over the internet, why is that OK to do but saying something as simple as "I don't agree with gay marriage" is looked down upon (and probably illegal eventually)?

What's getting sick about America is that if you're a conservative, you're not allowed to have your own opinion on anything and you're not given any freedom of speech. IF you're a liberal on the other hand, you can get away with almost anything.

The problem began when we let the Media take over and to tell us how to think. They determine right from wrong and for those who are weak minded, they are the ones who have been influenced by it the most.

There's a new Segregation going on and it's against Christians.

I agree with Ziggy

anyone know about the miss america runner up who has been attacked and humililated by the MSM for expressing her opinion about gay marriage vs traditional marriage?

It's been pretty sick.

I agree with a lot of the Davideo said. While holding a Christian world view isn't in the minority yet, it seems like in the media it is looked down upon.

It's not about freedom of speech anymore.... it's about "politcal correctness" which means - agree with us or we'll rip you apart until you no longer have any credibility.

Originally posted by Davideo7

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They're trying to make it illegal to discriminate against gay people which means, gay bashing = a fine.

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I think I already posted about that. It's ridiculous and unfair to Christians; they can say something against me if they want, because that's their opinion. They shouldn't have that taken away from them, it's not really fair and the whole idea of fining someone for it is cruel punishment for someone's individual philosophy.

Well, I don't think it would be a crime to say that you don't think that gays should marry, but it would be a crime to bash them as it is a crime to say horrible things about people of a certain race or religion. I also have noticed that the conservative viewpoint is being more and more frowned upon in society which is unfair. However, it is fair for the majority of people to disagree with that viewpoint provided they don't suppress it. Sadly, now people are trying to suppress it.

I agree with Davideo and Geeogree. I was having a discussion a few days ago with many of my friends who represent many different colleges campuses across the region. They all agreed that they were not getting a "balanced" education and that many professors infer that any viewpoint is accaptable except the Christian viewpoint, which is intolerant of others. Its a blatant double standard.

Originally posted by CPMaverick

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I agree with Davideo and Geeogree. I was having a discussion a few days ago with many of my friends who represent many different colleges campuses across the region. They all agreed that they were not getting a "balanced" education and that many professors infer that any viewpoint is accaptable except the Christian viewpoint, which is intolerant of others. Its a blatant double standard.

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and if you don't reproduce that viewpoint in their classes then you can't do well in them. it's really unfortunate.

The people who are all about tolerance and equality yet they are the ones being even more intolerant than those of us who disagree with them.

just a quick point, it isn't discrimination against christians, but more so against conservatives.

anyway, going back to the miss america thing, I'm really starting to see where you guys are seeing discrimination against people who don't want gay marriage to be legal etc. I didn't really notice it before, but now I can see how the media is mistreating those with opposing views.

What's a conservative? I'm not very religious, more spiritual. Seriously, what's a conservative?

"i think all discrimination is entirely wrong and we should all get along"

Easier said than done. You can't just get rid of discrimination. That's just...not possible. It would be nice, but you can't force people to change like that.

This seemed like a good page to explain what a conservative is (I think) http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative

Originally posted by Davideo7

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They're trying to make it illegal to discriminate against gay people which means, gay bashing = a fine.

What's crazy about this is, you get in trouble for discriminating against gay people but people are encouraged to discriminate against Christians. I get discriminated against more often than the average gay person and I see offensive stuff toward Christians all over the internet, why is that OK to do but saying something as simple as "I don't agree with gay marriage" is looked down upon (and probably illegal eventually)?

What's getting sick about America is that if you're a conservative, you're not allowed to have your own opinion on anything and you're not given any freedom of speech. IF you're a liberal on the other hand, you can get away with almost anything.

The problem began when we let the Media take over and to tell us how to think. They determine right from wrong and for those who are weak minded, they are the ones who have been influenced by it the most.

There's a new Segregation going on and it's against Christians.

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Actually, the legal protection prevents stuff like not being hired because you are gay, or fired because your are gay, or assaulted because you are gay, etc etc. Christians, and all federally recognized religions, already have this protection. This is less on the religious level and more on the civil rights areas like gender and racial discrimination. You wouldn't say it's okay to use racial slurs or lynch a man because he was black would you? Keeping in mind that passages in the Bible were used as an excuse for the maintaining of slavery for years and as "proof" that blacks were inferior. We know it is bulls*** now, but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.

What you are ignoring is that such legislation is coming as a result of brutal crimes against homosexuals. Do you not remember what happened to Mathew Sheppard? How can you not feel that there should be a law defining that as a hate crime?

I myself fully support the LGBT community, they are people just like everyone else and they are usually much nicer that most people. As to the idea that manly men like women and all that expressed earlier... while I see what you mean you have to keep in mind that gender roles and concepts such as masculinity and femininity are culturally constructed concepts and vary from place to place. There are tribes in the world where gender roles are completely reversed from what we deem as "normal" but it does not make the heterosexual men and women any less heterosexual.

But why does a group that is nearly indistiguishable (that was not spelled correctly) from any other group in society need protection above and beyond what anyone else has?

I'm not saying that people don't discriminate based on sexual orientation, but can you prove it? Are we going to have affirmative action for gays and lesbians now? If you have more than 10 employees then at least 1 must be gay?

I feel the same about racism as I do about homosexuality.... it's talked about too much. It's never going to go away. But when you get a tiny portion of either side getting time on TV and radio you don't get solutions you just stir the pot even more than it was before. I think we need to spend more time just living life and less time arguing about what a hate crime is or coming up with policies like affirmative action which only seem to keep these issues on the forefront.

Shouldn't equality exist without it having to be an "issue" for people?