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I DON'T FINT IT AS ART. I DO, HOWEVER SEE IT AS EDUCTAIONAL. I SAY THIS BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS PPL DO AND THINK I MIGHT WANT TO TRY THESE SOMETIMES. NUDITY CAN BE ART, AS IT HAS BEEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME, LIKE IN THE ROMAN DAYS. I THINK BACK THEN NUDITY WAS A SIGN OF POWER IN SOME ASPECTS,BUT NOW ITS PERVERTED IN THE WRONG HANDS.
I DON'T FINT IT AS ART. I DO, HOWEVER SEE IT AS EDUCTAIONAL. I SAY THIS BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS PPL DO AND THINK I MIGHT WANT TO TRY THESE SOMETIMES. NUDITY CAN BE ART, AS IT HAS BEEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME, LIKE IN THE ROMAN DAYS. I THINK BACK THEN NUDITY WAS A SIGN OF POWER IN SOME ASPECTS,BUT NOW ITS PERVERTED IN THE WRONG HANDS.
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I guess you can draw it, so yea in a way i guess.
I guess you can draw it, so yea in a way i guess.
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I don't find pornography artistic in any way, shape, or form. It might be a drawing of it, but I don't see how any way else it can be artistic in general.
I don't find pornography artistic in any way, shape, or form. It might be a drawing of it, but I don't see how any way else it can be artistic in general.
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I believe that whether or not it is an art all depends on three major questions:

1. What was the creator's purpose?
2. What message does it send?
3. How do people react to it?

I don't believe that all pornography is art. Most of it serves an obvious purpose. But just because an image has nudity (or even sex) in it, does not make it pornographic. Michelangelo's work, for example, had nudity in it but inspired feelings of awe and creativity. Not only that, but the nudity tells a story beyond sexual pleasure, or maybe has nothing to do with sexual pleasure at all. The problem with western culture is we too often associate nudity with sex when it symbolizes much more than that: vulnerability, growth, birth, freedom, passion, etc. I don't think there is a way to ultimately determine the exact "rules" that decide whether or not something is art. Like I stated before, it depends on three things. Here are some examples of what I mean.

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1. What was the creator's purpose? To inspire feelings of pleasure to the audience that leads to a sexual release
2. What message does it send? That sex and nudity is displayed for nothing more than pleasure and sexual release
3. How do people react to it? They feel pleasure and the need to relieve themselves sexually

POSSIBLY ART
1. What was the creator's purpose? To make the audience think, to inspire an emotion, to express them self
2. What message does it send? It tells a story or makes a statement that might teach a lesson beyond sexual pleasure.
3. How do people react to it? They feel any range of emotions: fear, nostalgia, sorrow, regret, etc. Or they feel mentally provoked in a way that causes them to think about an issue or concept that they never pondered before.


Once again, it is always up for interpretation, but these are my beliefs and I think they are accurate to the way a lot of others feel.

VERY interesting question! I appreciate your candor
I believe that whether or not it is an art all depends on three major questions:

1. What was the creator's purpose?
2. What message does it send?
3. How do people react to it?

I don't believe that all pornography is art. Most of it serves an obvious purpose. But just because an image has nudity (or even sex) in it, does not make it pornographic. Michelangelo's work, for example, had nudity in it but inspired feelings of awe and creativity. Not only that, but the nudity tells a story beyond sexual pleasure, or maybe has nothing to do with sexual pleasure at all. The problem with western culture is we too often associate nudity with sex when it symbolizes much more than that: vulnerability, growth, birth, freedom, passion, etc. I don't think there is a way to ultimately determine the exact "rules" that decide whether or not something is art. Like I stated before, it depends on three things. Here are some examples of what I mean.

PORN
1. What was the creator's purpose? To inspire feelings of pleasure to the audience that leads to a sexual release
2. What message does it send? That sex and nudity is displayed for nothing more than pleasure and sexual release
3. How do people react to it? They feel pleasure and the need to relieve themselves sexually

POSSIBLY ART
1. What was the creator's purpose? To make the audience think, to inspire an emotion, to express them self
2. What message does it send? It tells a story or makes a statement that might teach a lesson beyond sexual pleasure.
3. How do people react to it? They feel any range of emotions: fear, nostalgia, sorrow, regret, etc. Or they feel mentally provoked in a way that causes them to think about an issue or concept that they never pondered before.


Once again, it is always up for interpretation, but these are my beliefs and I think they are accurate to the way a lot of others feel.

VERY interesting question! I appreciate your candor
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Kind of random much? Anyway, this thing about porn.... I know what it is but I've never watched it. I don't plan on watching it, because the way I see it, I have better things to do with my time.
Kind of random much? Anyway, this thing about porn.... I know what it is but I've never watched it. I don't plan on watching it, because the way I see it, I have better things to do with my time.
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I'll start my argument by continuing off of Belmontzar's use of the definition of pornography: "Noun: Printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity."

So here we have a definition of pornography. At face value, you can consider a simple drawing of a nude woman laying on a couch to be pornography. Nudity is explicit, and the way she lays on the couch would be the display of sexual organs. If this is the case, wouldn't the scene in Titanic where Jack sketching Rose on the couch be considered "pornographic"? You only see her breasts in the drawing, which would be considered pornography by definition.

Now let's define art (Thank you, Google): "Noun: The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,..."

Let's revisit the example with Rose and Jack. The sketch is an application of human creative skill; these skills would be attention to detail, eye-hand coordination, and talent in art. The sketch is on paper (the visual form of said application).

This scene shows both pornography and art, because the pornography IS art.

Pornography in modern society is considered crude and primal simply because of the content of pornographic videos. But referring to the definition, pornography can also be printed material. Drawings, for example, can be pornographic, as we have already established.

Some of the most artistic paintings during the Renaissance were pornographic. A lot of these paintings were in regards to the Greek Gods of mythology. Sexual organs galore. Sexual poses galore. And yet people still call these art, even though they are pornographic in nature.

When we think of pornography, we think of rough, primal sex that you can buy in video form at adult stores. But not all pornography is like that. To me, general pornography is indeed art. Pornography (that isn't crude) is a simple expression of the human body in visual form. This pornography should not be seen as offensive; rather, it should be something to be appreciated, as all human bodies should be appreciated.
I'll start my argument by continuing off of Belmontzar's use of the definition of pornography: "Noun: Printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity."

So here we have a definition of pornography. At face value, you can consider a simple drawing of a nude woman laying on a couch to be pornography. Nudity is explicit, and the way she lays on the couch would be the display of sexual organs. If this is the case, wouldn't the scene in Titanic where Jack sketching Rose on the couch be considered "pornographic"? You only see her breasts in the drawing, which would be considered pornography by definition.

Now let's define art (Thank you, Google): "Noun: The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,..."

Let's revisit the example with Rose and Jack. The sketch is an application of human creative skill; these skills would be attention to detail, eye-hand coordination, and talent in art. The sketch is on paper (the visual form of said application).

This scene shows both pornography and art, because the pornography IS art.

Pornography in modern society is considered crude and primal simply because of the content of pornographic videos. But referring to the definition, pornography can also be printed material. Drawings, for example, can be pornographic, as we have already established.

Some of the most artistic paintings during the Renaissance were pornographic. A lot of these paintings were in regards to the Greek Gods of mythology. Sexual organs galore. Sexual poses galore. And yet people still call these art, even though they are pornographic in nature.

When we think of pornography, we think of rough, primal sex that you can buy in video form at adult stores. But not all pornography is like that. To me, general pornography is indeed art. Pornography (that isn't crude) is a simple expression of the human body in visual form. This pornography should not be seen as offensive; rather, it should be something to be appreciated, as all human bodies should be appreciated.
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It was never even art to begin with! Something that disgusting should actually be thrown away.It really burns your eyes. But It is not an art nor should it be referred to as pornography. Porn is porn as it always will be. 
It was never even art to begin with! Something that disgusting should actually be thrown away.It really burns your eyes. But It is not an art nor should it be referred to as pornography. Porn is porn as it always will be. 
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        I will start by saying pornography IS art.  Now you can choose to read it or skip.  The reason is this you asked if pornography is ART. If you had said fine art I would say no.  Fine art is the statue of David. Art can be a guy make hot dogs because it takes a certain amount of skill regardless of how much it requires.  That said anything and everything is art. But not everything is fine art.  Just look at Ron Jeremy (overlook his physic and creepy deamor) but people call him the best in the business this help emphasis the concept that there Is good porn and bad porn ( I'm not saying its "good" as in God but quality). In fact there is even "artistic porn" ( I honestly don't know how this is possible but then again I'm also a guy who saw a waiter serving a guy eggs Benedict "scrambled"). This enforces the idea of skill equates art and vice-versa Thus porn is art.

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This does not mean that I consider porn good in any means and I strongly recommend you don't watch it.  It really can ruin people's lives permanently and make them unfit for any normal relationships.  (an example is a creepy pastor who joined a gay church because he thought they did "freaky sex" he was sorely disappointed and kicked out). (another one is how certain people may think due to watching porn that sex doesn't mean anything and because of that cheat on people they're dating.)
        I will start by saying pornography IS art.  Now you can choose to read it or skip.  The reason is this you asked if pornography is ART. If you had said fine art I would say no.  Fine art is the statue of David. Art can be a guy make hot dogs because it takes a certain amount of skill regardless of how much it requires.  That said anything and everything is art. But not everything is fine art.  Just look at Ron Jeremy (overlook his physic and creepy deamor) but people call him the best in the business this help emphasis the concept that there Is good porn and bad porn ( I'm not saying its "good" as in God but quality). In fact there is even "artistic porn" ( I honestly don't know how this is possible but then again I'm also a guy who saw a waiter serving a guy eggs Benedict "scrambled"). This enforces the idea of skill equates art and vice-versa Thus porn is art.

***DISCLAIMER***
This does not mean that I consider porn good in any means and I strongly recommend you don't watch it.  It really can ruin people's lives permanently and make them unfit for any normal relationships.  (an example is a creepy pastor who joined a gay church because he thought they did "freaky sex" he was sorely disappointed and kicked out). (another one is how certain people may think due to watching porn that sex doesn't mean anything and because of that cheat on people they're dating.)
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I would say it is art. It is just like a movie but with naked people in it. Even in ancient times people drew pictures and made sculptures and wrote books about sex, so isn't that considered art and pornography? 
I would say it is art. It is just like a movie but with naked people in it. Even in ancient times people drew pictures and made sculptures and wrote books about sex, so isn't that considered art and pornography? 
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Everything is considered art, you yourself are a work of art, everything around you is a work of art, life itself is a work of art. Art isn't just paintings or drawings its life itself. You can make babies and you can rob a bank, you can eat a hamberger or sit on a bench it really doesn't matter because it all tells a story.

This example might be easier to understand (warning this example is graphic): A womens face is the canvas, your weiner is the paintbrush and your seamen is the paint. How you got in that position in first place is the story behind it all. It doesn't matter whether you bend her over or put it in her mouth you are creating art either way. Maybe a camera man and director would be more convincing that it is an art.
Everything is considered art, you yourself are a work of art, everything around you is a work of art, life itself is a work of art. Art isn't just paintings or drawings its life itself. You can make babies and you can rob a bank, you can eat a hamberger or sit on a bench it really doesn't matter because it all tells a story.

This example might be easier to understand (warning this example is graphic): A womens face is the canvas, your weiner is the paintbrush and your seamen is the paint. How you got in that position in first place is the story behind it all. It doesn't matter whether you bend her over or put it in her mouth you are creating art either way. Maybe a camera man and director would be more convincing that it is an art.
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It depends really on how the director views his/her work. I think that Hentai magazines are art, but things you see on the Internet and in Playboy are just not. I find it demeaning and as such, shouldn't really be on the Internet but that's just me.
It depends really on how the director views his/her work. I think that Hentai magazines are art, but things you see on the Internet and in Playboy are just not. I find it demeaning and as such, shouldn't really be on the Internet but that's just me.
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It's not a form of art. It's pretty easy to have sex. It's even easier to film it. It's not art when it's simply something you do as a natural biological function.
It's not a form of art. It's pretty easy to have sex. It's even easier to film it. It's not art when it's simply something you do as a natural biological function.
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Art being a simple and yet sometimes strong word I suppose that would be a bit of a strong word in this case maybe not  art directly unless it's those fire house and policeman calendars probably  either way I don't really see it as offensive or anything it's their choice of expression and such whether  it is a right or wrong decision only they can decide that since everyone has their own opinions of it.
Art being a simple and yet sometimes strong word I suppose that would be a bit of a strong word in this case maybe not  art directly unless it's those fire house and policeman calendars probably  either way I don't really see it as offensive or anything it's their choice of expression and such whether  it is a right or wrong decision only they can decide that since everyone has their own opinions of it.
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I think when people say porn is an art I think they mean those soft core ones, you no the ones where there is no nudity. I honestly have to laugh when someone says its art. I'm sorry if I offend anyone but porn is porn just people doing stuff. Art is like an exploration of the mind, or a creative way to look at the world, at least in some ways. I'm not an art major or anything but I just feel that porn and art shouldn't really be in the same sentence.
I think when people say porn is an art I think they mean those soft core ones, you no the ones where there is no nudity. I honestly have to laugh when someone says its art. I'm sorry if I offend anyone but porn is porn just people doing stuff. Art is like an exploration of the mind, or a creative way to look at the world, at least in some ways. I'm not an art major or anything but I just feel that porn and art shouldn't really be in the same sentence.
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"Is porn art? Are video games art? Is modern art really art?" None of these nonsensical debates would exist if people would stop treating the word "art" like some kind of achievement award. There are good and bad examples, high and low, of everything. It doesn't have to be good to be art. It doesn't have to be intellectual. It doesn't have to have "substance" (a word that, when you think about it, means positively n-o-t-h-i-n-g at all). Anything emerging from human expression has the opportunity to be tacky, crude or even worthless. "Manos: The Hands of Fate" is art because it's a movie and therefore theater. Or are you going to deny that theater is one of the arts? "My Immortal" is art because it is prose: it just isn't *good* prose. In the same way pornography, whatever you think of it, is art, just by virtue of being fiction. The word is not automatically a compliment, it's a neutral descriptor like "science" or "language". You don't refuse to call someone's English a use of human language just because they're expressing themselves poorly or saying something offensive. This whole issue is just one overblown No True Scotsman fallacy.


"Is porn art? Are video games art? Is modern art really art?" None of these nonsensical debates would exist if people would stop treating the word "art" like some kind of achievement award. There are good and bad examples, high and low, of everything. It doesn't have to be good to be art. It doesn't have to be intellectual. It doesn't have to have "substance" (a word that, when you think about it, means positively n-o-t-h-i-n-g at all). Anything emerging from human expression has the opportunity to be tacky, crude or even worthless. "Manos: The Hands of Fate" is art because it's a movie and therefore theater. Or are you going to deny that theater is one of the arts? "My Immortal" is art because it is prose: it just isn't *good* prose. In the same way pornography, whatever you think of it, is art, just by virtue of being fiction. The word is not automatically a compliment, it's a neutral descriptor like "science" or "language". You don't refuse to call someone's English a use of human language just because they're expressing themselves poorly or saying something offensive. This whole issue is just one overblown No True Scotsman fallacy.

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I can only see Pornography as art when someone wants the other person to pose for them for an Sill Life art piece.
I can only see Pornography as art when someone wants the other person to pose for them for an Sill Life art piece.
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I personally do not see it as art, but I can see how someone could interrupt it as art I mean sex is suppose to be a beautiful thing, right? And art is suppose to be beautiful right? But I have also noticed that pornography has been used as a way for legal prostitution, and it just kind of conflicts me I guess we are not allowed to pay someone to have sex with...unless we film and show it to the whole world for profit?
I personally do not see it as art, but I can see how someone could interrupt it as art I mean sex is suppose to be a beautiful thing, right? And art is suppose to be beautiful right? But I have also noticed that pornography has been used as a way for legal prostitution, and it just kind of conflicts me I guess we are not allowed to pay someone to have sex with...unless we film and show it to the whole world for profit?
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It really depends on the artists purpose . If he / she wants to draw a complete pornographic picture , it his / her choice , If he / she is drawing it for a big purpose like peta does , I think it is okay ;.
It really depends on the artists purpose . If he / she wants to draw a complete pornographic picture , it his / her choice , If he / she is drawing it for a big purpose like peta does , I think it is okay ;.
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It could depends on the artist, but probably most of the porn art are born to satisfy our lower part desire.
It could depends on the artist, but probably most of the porn art are born to satisfy our lower part desire.
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