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Video Game Nudity

 
Do you think it's ok for a video game to have nudity?
NO
- Video games are for enjoyment, not for sexual pleasure
 
23.7%, 40 votes
DEPENDS
- Brief nudity is fine, nothing more
 
46.7%, 79 votes
YES
- Hardcore sex should also be allowed, movies been doing it for years
 
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Originally posted by bignatealpha
Originally posted by DarkHyren
Originally posted by bignatealpha
No, what I'm saying is that we can still have good games. I didn't say anything about violence. I still play shooters. What I'm saying is that putting nudity in games is something I deem morally wrong. You're taking this way out of context.
Oh, so nudity, the most natural thing in the world that everyone is, is wrong, but blowing off peoples heads in a bloody gory way is perfectly acceptable is it?
You seem to really like contridicting yourself though, or is it just that violence is the lesser of two "evils" in your mind...


Look, let me explain my point more clearly. In the Bible, Jesus says that looking after someone with lust is considered adultery, a sin. Pornography is lustful. Most, if not all, video game nudity is a form of pornography. So, by extent, video game nudity is often, if not always, a sin. As for the part about violence, I am not trying to make a point about that. That topic is in another thread. My point was that video games have changed, and not for the better. If you must know, I'm not against violence in general, although I do not support gory games or ones that glorify killing anyone not trying to kill you.

So you're following games just because of the bible? Who cares if there's porn in video games? Take a look at Leisure Suit Larry, there's a small amount of porn in that game, but you keep playing for the humor and getting laid.
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Originally posted by DarkHyren
Originally posted by bignatealpha
No, what I'm saying is that we can still have good games. I didn't say anything about violence. I still play shooters. What I'm saying is that putting nudity in games is something I deem morally wrong. You're taking this way out of context.
Oh, so nudity, the most natural thing in the world that everyone is, is wrong, but blowing off peoples heads in a bloody gory way is perfectly acceptable is it?
You seem to really like contridicting yourself though, or is it just that violence is the lesser of two "evils" in your mind...


Look, let me explain my point more clearly. In the Bible, Jesus says that looking after someone with lust is considered adultery, a sin. Pornography is lustful. Most, if not all, video game nudity is a form of pornography. So, by extent, video game nudity is often, if not always, a sin. As for the part about violence, I am not trying to make a point about that. That topic is in another thread. My point was that video games have changed, and not for the better. If you must know, I'm not against violence in general, although I do not support gory games or ones that glorify killing anyone not trying to kill you.

So you're following games just because of the bible? Who cares if there's porn in video games? Take a look at Leisure Suit Larry, there's a small amount of porn in that game, but you keep playing for the humor and getting laid.
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Originally posted by xfighter1138
So you're following games just because of the bible? Who cares if there's porn in video games? Take a look at Leisure Suit Larry, there's a small amount of porn in that game, but you keep playing for the humor and getting laid.


You hit the nail right on the head. I am a Christian, and firmly rooted in my faith. I will not throw my morality aside just so I can play a fun game. If there's something in a game I believe is immoral and sinful, then I won't play the game. That's not to say I shun all video games. If they aren't full of nudity, or gore, or something like that I'll play 'em. But if they involve you playing as someone murdering people or characters that engage in sexually immoral acts, then that game stays out of my gaming system, period, end of conversation.
Originally posted by xfighter1138
So you're following games just because of the bible? Who cares if there's porn in video games? Take a look at Leisure Suit Larry, there's a small amount of porn in that game, but you keep playing for the humor and getting laid.


You hit the nail right on the head. I am a Christian, and firmly rooted in my faith. I will not throw my morality aside just so I can play a fun game. If there's something in a game I believe is immoral and sinful, then I won't play the game. That's not to say I shun all video games. If they aren't full of nudity, or gore, or something like that I'll play 'em. But if they involve you playing as someone murdering people or characters that engage in sexually immoral acts, then that game stays out of my gaming system, period, end of conversation.
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Originally posted by bignatealpha
In the Bible, Jesus says that looking after someone with lust is considered adultery, a sin. Pornography is lustful. Most, if not all, video game nudity is a form of pornography. So, by extent, video game nudity is often, if not always, a sin.
That's an opinion. Pornography itself is not lustful (maybe excluding hardcore sex), it's only how the indiviual looks upon it that determines whether or not it is a "sin" for that individual.
You consider all nude pictures "pornography" by the looks of things, and that simply isn't the case.
Otherwise there are plenty of depictions of jesus that would be considered "pornography".
But you don't call them that do you, you call them "artistic".
Well that's another opinion and calling something nearly identical in nature "porn" is ignorant.
Originally posted by bignatealpha
In the Bible, Jesus says that looking after someone with lust is considered adultery, a sin. Pornography is lustful. Most, if not all, video game nudity is a form of pornography. So, by extent, video game nudity is often, if not always, a sin.
That's an opinion. Pornography itself is not lustful (maybe excluding hardcore sex), it's only how the indiviual looks upon it that determines whether or not it is a "sin" for that individual.
You consider all nude pictures "pornography" by the looks of things, and that simply isn't the case.
Otherwise there are plenty of depictions of jesus that would be considered "pornography".
But you don't call them that do you, you call them "artistic".
Well that's another opinion and calling something nearly identical in nature "porn" is ignorant.
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Originally posted by IceWave04
No doubt what you say is true. HOWEVER the australian government believes that video games are for kids.

"Because video games are for kids (according to them)."

See!
I do agree that majority of gamers would be between 20-30. The reason games are aimed at our age group more is because there is a larger auidence and its easier to target them all. Unlike etrying to target children whos ideas of fun and games and ect change ever so much.
No, no.



are for kids, silly australian goverment.
Originally posted by IceWave04
No doubt what you say is true. HOWEVER the australian government believes that video games are for kids.

"Because video games are for kids (according to them)."

See!
I do agree that majority of gamers would be between 20-30. The reason games are aimed at our age group more is because there is a larger auidence and its easier to target them all. Unlike etrying to target children whos ideas of fun and games and ect change ever so much.
No, no.



are for kids, silly australian goverment.
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Originally posted by DarkHyren
Originally posted by bignatealpha
In the Bible, Jesus says that looking after someone with lust is considered adultery, a sin. Pornography is lustful. Most, if not all, video game nudity is a form of pornography. So, by extent, video game nudity is often, if not always, a sin.
That's an opinion. Pornography itself is not lustful (maybe excluding hardcore sex), it's only how the indiviual looks upon it that determines whether or not it is a "sin" for that individual.
You consider all nude pictures "pornography" by the looks of things, and that simply isn't the case.
Otherwise there are plenty of depictions of jesus that would be considered "pornography".
But you don't call them that do you, you call them "artistic".
Well that's another opinion and calling something nearly identical in nature "porn" is ignorant.


Actually, according to dictionary.reference.com, the definition of pornography is:
1.Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

Therefore, not all nudity is porn, but all porn is lustful and sinful. So, to make myself clear, not all nudity is sinful. Showing pictures of people who are naked due to lack of money for buying clothes, with the intent of invoking compassion, is not sinful. However, from what I've heard, and from reviews I've read, that is quite often NOT what video games are trying to make you feel when showing nudity. Give me an example of a game where nudity is not used for sexual purposes (which means it has to be presented in a way that is not drawing attention to sexuality) and I'll say that I've changed my mind and that nudity in video games is not all bad.

P.S. It has to be HUMAN nudity. No jokes about nudity in Sonic or games with nude animals.
Originally posted by DarkHyren
Originally posted by bignatealpha
In the Bible, Jesus says that looking after someone with lust is considered adultery, a sin. Pornography is lustful. Most, if not all, video game nudity is a form of pornography. So, by extent, video game nudity is often, if not always, a sin.
That's an opinion. Pornography itself is not lustful (maybe excluding hardcore sex), it's only how the indiviual looks upon it that determines whether or not it is a "sin" for that individual.
You consider all nude pictures "pornography" by the looks of things, and that simply isn't the case.
Otherwise there are plenty of depictions of jesus that would be considered "pornography".
But you don't call them that do you, you call them "artistic".
Well that's another opinion and calling something nearly identical in nature "porn" is ignorant.


Actually, according to dictionary.reference.com, the definition of pornography is:
1.Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

Therefore, not all nudity is porn, but all porn is lustful and sinful. So, to make myself clear, not all nudity is sinful. Showing pictures of people who are naked due to lack of money for buying clothes, with the intent of invoking compassion, is not sinful. However, from what I've heard, and from reviews I've read, that is quite often NOT what video games are trying to make you feel when showing nudity. Give me an example of a game where nudity is not used for sexual purposes (which means it has to be presented in a way that is not drawing attention to sexuality) and I'll say that I've changed my mind and that nudity in video games is not all bad.

P.S. It has to be HUMAN nudity. No jokes about nudity in Sonic or games with nude animals.
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Stuff the dictionary. Any and all nudity can cause "sexual arousal", but it doesn't mean that it's porn.
And that proves my point really, nudity in video games (with the exception of porn / hentai games) main primary purpose is not to cause sexual arousal.
I'm not even sure what games even have any human nudity in them except maybe something like Leisure Suit Larry, Playboy Mansion or porn games (in other words games meant to be dirty, don't like them don't play them).

Ok, I looked some up.
Dead Rising: The guy has a naked chick on his shirt. Oh no, the horror
From Wikipedia: "Almost no North American video games display full frontal nudity (with the exception of Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned)"
Wow, a game for thugs that expect and want that stuff is one of the few with human nudity. Go figure.

There is nudity in Conan: the Barbarian and God of War, but it's mostly a cultural thing for the characters in game.

Quick List of Other Games:
Mass Effect: it was one optional scene that didn't last very long.
Custard's Last Stand: Atari 2600 game, pixelated nudity
Stuff the dictionary. Any and all nudity can cause "sexual arousal", but it doesn't mean that it's porn.
And that proves my point really, nudity in video games (with the exception of porn / hentai games) main primary purpose is not to cause sexual arousal.
I'm not even sure what games even have any human nudity in them except maybe something like Leisure Suit Larry, Playboy Mansion or porn games (in other words games meant to be dirty, don't like them don't play them).

Ok, I looked some up.
Dead Rising: The guy has a naked chick on his shirt. Oh no, the horror
From Wikipedia: "Almost no North American video games display full frontal nudity (with the exception of Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned)"
Wow, a game for thugs that expect and want that stuff is one of the few with human nudity. Go figure.

There is nudity in Conan: the Barbarian and God of War, but it's mostly a cultural thing for the characters in game.

Quick List of Other Games:
Mass Effect: it was one optional scene that didn't last very long.
Custard's Last Stand: Atari 2600 game, pixelated nudity
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From what I understand, there's a naked woman that is hidden on a wall in Assassins Creed.
From what I understand, there's a naked woman that is hidden on a wall in Assassins Creed.
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Originally posted by DarkHyren
Stuff the dictionary. Any and all nudity can cause "sexual arousal", but it doesn't mean that it's porn.
And that proves my point really, nudity in video games (with the exception of porn / hentai games) main primary purpose is not to cause sexual arousal.
I'm not even sure what games even have any human nudity in them except maybe something like Leisure Suit Larry, Playboy Mansion or porn games (in other words games meant to be dirty, don't like them don't play them).

Ok, I looked some up.
Dead Rising: The guy has a naked chick on his shirt. Oh no, the horror
From Wikipedia: "Almost no North American video games display full frontal nudity (with the exception of Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned)"
Wow, a game for thugs that expect and want that stuff is one of the few with human nudity. Go figure.

There is nudity in Conan: the Barbarian and God of War, but it's mostly a cultural thing for the characters in game.

Quick List of Other Games:
Mass Effect: it was one optional scene that didn't last very long.
Custard's Last Stand: Atari 2600 game, pixelated nudity


I think a simple way to summarize how I feel in relation to most of what you said.

If a game is meant to be pornographic then let it have nudity.... if it's not supposed to be pornographic, then no nudity. I don't see how nudity in a FPS makes the game better. That has never made sense to me. If I want to see boobies I'll go look up boobies on google or something. I'm not going to play a game to see cartoon boobies.
Originally posted by DarkHyren
Stuff the dictionary. Any and all nudity can cause "sexual arousal", but it doesn't mean that it's porn.
And that proves my point really, nudity in video games (with the exception of porn / hentai games) main primary purpose is not to cause sexual arousal.
I'm not even sure what games even have any human nudity in them except maybe something like Leisure Suit Larry, Playboy Mansion or porn games (in other words games meant to be dirty, don't like them don't play them).

Ok, I looked some up.
Dead Rising: The guy has a naked chick on his shirt. Oh no, the horror
From Wikipedia: "Almost no North American video games display full frontal nudity (with the exception of Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned)"
Wow, a game for thugs that expect and want that stuff is one of the few with human nudity. Go figure.

There is nudity in Conan: the Barbarian and God of War, but it's mostly a cultural thing for the characters in game.

Quick List of Other Games:
Mass Effect: it was one optional scene that didn't last very long.
Custard's Last Stand: Atari 2600 game, pixelated nudity


I think a simple way to summarize how I feel in relation to most of what you said.

If a game is meant to be pornographic then let it have nudity.... if it's not supposed to be pornographic, then no nudity. I don't see how nudity in a FPS makes the game better. That has never made sense to me. If I want to see boobies I'll go look up boobies on google or something. I'm not going to play a game to see cartoon boobies.
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Originally posted by geeogree
I don't see how nudity in a FPS makes the game better. That has never made sense to me. If I want to see boobies I'll go look up boobies on google or something.
There are cases of it being in there for artistic value or for storyline purposes (which is the case for most non porn games).
It doesn't make it better per se, just more realistic.
But I pay no attention to if there is nudity in games (mostly because there is so little) because it isn't a major thing.
I don't play games for their nude factor (unless it's a porn game ) but any nudes in regular games don't bother me.
As you said one can just use google to look up pictures, so it's not like it's a big thing if a game has a random bit of breast.
Originally posted by geeogree
I don't see how nudity in a FPS makes the game better. That has never made sense to me. If I want to see boobies I'll go look up boobies on google or something.
There are cases of it being in there for artistic value or for storyline purposes (which is the case for most non porn games).
It doesn't make it better per se, just more realistic.
But I pay no attention to if there is nudity in games (mostly because there is so little) because it isn't a major thing.
I don't play games for their nude factor (unless it's a porn game ) but any nudes in regular games don't bother me.
As you said one can just use google to look up pictures, so it's not like it's a big thing if a game has a random bit of breast.
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fair enough I guess.... and while in my mind seeing nudity on the package of a regular video game wouldn't make me more inclined to buy it... I know that there are some people out there that would buy it.

And if the game is violent enough already then it's probably got a "mature" rating that a minor amount of nudity isn't going to affect and will result in a few more possible purchases.

Still think it's silly though
fair enough I guess.... and while in my mind seeing nudity on the package of a regular video game wouldn't make me more inclined to buy it... I know that there are some people out there that would buy it.

And if the game is violent enough already then it's probably got a "mature" rating that a minor amount of nudity isn't going to affect and will result in a few more possible purchases.

Still think it's silly though
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Originally posted by tr33l3x
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I know this i kind of random... but i totally agree with this guy. it all depends on the person and the ethics of that person. anyone trying to abolish nudity or violence for video games or the world will fail. And as much as some people will hate to admit it, things that are considered wrong sell because thats the way society works. People like scandals and drama and video game violence/nudity creates that kind of stuff, thus people will always buy those kinds of games. Plus for some guys thats the closest they get to real nuidty...In conclusion i don't really care, because the way the rating system works you'll know whats in the game before you play it, but anyone trying to rid that from video games will fail.
Originally posted by tr33l3x
I never knew the depths of how socially inept some people can be until I read this thread......


I know this i kind of random... but i totally agree with this guy. it all depends on the person and the ethics of that person. anyone trying to abolish nudity or violence for video games or the world will fail. And as much as some people will hate to admit it, things that are considered wrong sell because thats the way society works. People like scandals and drama and video game violence/nudity creates that kind of stuff, thus people will always buy those kinds of games. Plus for some guys thats the closest they get to real nuidty...In conclusion i don't really care, because the way the rating system works you'll know whats in the game before you play it, but anyone trying to rid that from video games will fail.
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nudity is every where.
books/tv/movies/some games.and there are game designed for sex.hell if ur off by one letter of what ur looking for on goolge u get some sex thing.
there are entire site for porn games/hentia games. there even games for consoles for hentia.Hentia is becoming bigger then porn.where did hentia come from some u might ask well it all start with movie called Heavy Metal and it's basically main stream now.
80 % games are made for adults who else going to buy them?
i prefer it not to be in our regular games. already to much of it around as is.
Duke Nukem was one the 1st games to have nudity no seem to notice or care back then. and also there wasn't much controversy over it back then even with the titles.
one title Land of the babes. mind u only see breast.
still nudity. and at the time period that be a lot nudity now breast not even the big thing to see.
lap dances for some dates to movies for others. porn in moms basement for others. everyone has there own opinion about sex. there few groups u can put people #1 is ban all from internet/tv/etc which never happen company pay to much money in fines to keep it running to attract people #2 some people really don't care #3. some on the fence 50/50 so to say. #4 some people can't make up there minds with all the propaganda the media shoves down everyones throat.
#5 some people are just sex crazy and want it in everything on everything #6 some just deal with it and don't say nothing cause there like what's the point we can't stop it.

Damn never realized how my i typed till just now. i go on but i end there.





nudity is every where.
books/tv/movies/some games.and there are game designed for sex.hell if ur off by one letter of what ur looking for on goolge u get some sex thing.
there are entire site for porn games/hentia games. there even games for consoles for hentia.Hentia is becoming bigger then porn.where did hentia come from some u might ask well it all start with movie called Heavy Metal and it's basically main stream now.
80 % games are made for adults who else going to buy them?
i prefer it not to be in our regular games. already to much of it around as is.
Duke Nukem was one the 1st games to have nudity no seem to notice or care back then. and also there wasn't much controversy over it back then even with the titles.
one title Land of the babes. mind u only see breast.
still nudity. and at the time period that be a lot nudity now breast not even the big thing to see.
lap dances for some dates to movies for others. porn in moms basement for others. everyone has there own opinion about sex. there few groups u can put people #1 is ban all from internet/tv/etc which never happen company pay to much money in fines to keep it running to attract people #2 some people really don't care #3. some on the fence 50/50 so to say. #4 some people can't make up there minds with all the propaganda the media shoves down everyones throat.
#5 some people are just sex crazy and want it in everything on everything #6 some just deal with it and don't say nothing cause there like what's the point we can't stop it.

Damn never realized how my i typed till just now. i go on but i end there.





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I think gore is a lot worse than nudity, honestly. While neither necessarily belongs in a children's game, if it's just nudity (Topic title said said nudity, not sex! There is a difference!), then I don't get the big deal.

Shooting a gun in a game doesn't make a kid a killer, so seeing boobs won't make it a rapist, if you catch my drift. And what kid/teen/adult hasn't seen it before? That's not to say that just because something is frequent that it must also be good, but I mean, nudity really presents no novelty to anyone.
(If it did, it would be the type of people that don't play games to begin with )


All has to follow in measures. I mean, there are obviously games that should not show any nudity whatsoever, but if there is the one or other, it does not really make it a bad game. I'd say the important thing is that you know what you buy, ergo avoid surprises.
I think gore is a lot worse than nudity, honestly. While neither necessarily belongs in a children's game, if it's just nudity (Topic title said said nudity, not sex! There is a difference!), then I don't get the big deal.

Shooting a gun in a game doesn't make a kid a killer, so seeing boobs won't make it a rapist, if you catch my drift. And what kid/teen/adult hasn't seen it before? That's not to say that just because something is frequent that it must also be good, but I mean, nudity really presents no novelty to anyone.
(If it did, it would be the type of people that don't play games to begin with )


All has to follow in measures. I mean, there are obviously games that should not show any nudity whatsoever, but if there is the one or other, it does not really make it a bad game. I'd say the important thing is that you know what you buy, ergo avoid surprises.
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Originally posted by bignatealpha



P.S. It has to be HUMAN nudity. No jokes about nudity in Sonic or games with nude animals.



finally someone sees my joke .

What about in spore , theres nudity when you haven't reach tribute stage and they are ailens .

Okay fine I don't really care about it , just well at last put your pants .

Also have you ever heard that Grand thief auto san andreds rating was going to be from M to AO (adults only ) because of a mod (I think hot coffee ) .
Originally posted by bignatealpha



P.S. It has to be HUMAN nudity. No jokes about nudity in Sonic or games with nude animals.



finally someone sees my joke .

What about in spore , theres nudity when you haven't reach tribute stage and they are ailens .

Okay fine I don't really care about it , just well at last put your pants .

Also have you ever heard that Grand thief auto san andreds rating was going to be from M to AO (adults only ) because of a mod (I think hot coffee ) .
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Well, in any form of media there are three ways to portray nudity: artistically, nonchalantly, and as porn. People get these mixed up a lot because it's used in a sexual context so often in modern times the line between the three categories has been blurred.

Pornography is morally wrong, and thusly nudity in a sexual context, as pornography, is wrong.

Portraying nudity "nonchalantly," as though it doesn't even matter, is also acceptable. This could be, for example, in the case of Robinson Crusoe, who's been alone for so long and has had his clothes destroyed so often that nudity wouldn't make any difference to him. Basically, you're naked, but you don't feel or act any differently than you would while clothed.

Artistic nudity can be problematic, because depending on how you portray it or what your definition of "artistic" is you can easily end up branching into pornography. Often this overlaps with "nonchalant" nudity, so that it wouldn't matter. However, it's also often considered "artistic" to pose people in a position that would be considered sexual and therefore pornographic. Some people are OK with doing artistic nudity, while other people should stay away just to be safe.



I saw someone bring up Jesus in here, so let me explain my views of public nudity from a Christian perspective: all of the animals of God's creation are naked. Originally, we were created that way. In Genesis, the first book of the Bible, it explicitly states that Adam and Eve were naked, and weren't ashamed of it: nonchalant nudity.

Now, what were Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden for? Sinning. Thus, the logical conclusion is that if nudity in front of another is a sin, they would have been kicked out before. This belief can be debunked, however, by pointing out that Adam and Eve were technically "married," with or without a priest there to say. Thus, one could say it was OK in their case.

However, when God met with Adam later, he knew that Adam had sinned because Adam was covering himself with fig leaves. Why would God associate sin with the clothed body? I think I know why: it's because sin is founded off a desire to improve upon God's creation rather than build off of it. Adam ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil because he wanted to be better than God had created him. He also hid the body God had given him, I think, for the same purpose. But that's mostly speculation on my part.

Now here's where it starts to get interesting: jumping a few thousand years into the future, I remember one Bible passage where Jesus takes off his robe and, naked before his disciples, washes their feet. If being naked in front of other people were sinning, Jesus certainly wouldn't have done it, or he would have asked if they were comfortable with him doing it first.
Some people have made similar logical connections about Jesus being naked on the cross, but in reality he was forced to be naked, so it made no difference either way as nudity was not his choice.

There are a few other passages that suggest nudity was practiced by Jesus's disciples and he didn't call them out on it, so it must be OK; but I think those are open to speculation.

So if nudity in real life is OK, then nudity in art should be all right, too. In the media, there's nothing inherently wrong with nudity, and that includes video games. It's all about context, which especially in today's modern world is something we have to look out for.
Well, in any form of media there are three ways to portray nudity: artistically, nonchalantly, and as porn. People get these mixed up a lot because it's used in a sexual context so often in modern times the line between the three categories has been blurred.

Pornography is morally wrong, and thusly nudity in a sexual context, as pornography, is wrong.

Portraying nudity "nonchalantly," as though it doesn't even matter, is also acceptable. This could be, for example, in the case of Robinson Crusoe, who's been alone for so long and has had his clothes destroyed so often that nudity wouldn't make any difference to him. Basically, you're naked, but you don't feel or act any differently than you would while clothed.

Artistic nudity can be problematic, because depending on how you portray it or what your definition of "artistic" is you can easily end up branching into pornography. Often this overlaps with "nonchalant" nudity, so that it wouldn't matter. However, it's also often considered "artistic" to pose people in a position that would be considered sexual and therefore pornographic. Some people are OK with doing artistic nudity, while other people should stay away just to be safe.



I saw someone bring up Jesus in here, so let me explain my views of public nudity from a Christian perspective: all of the animals of God's creation are naked. Originally, we were created that way. In Genesis, the first book of the Bible, it explicitly states that Adam and Eve were naked, and weren't ashamed of it: nonchalant nudity.

Now, what were Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden for? Sinning. Thus, the logical conclusion is that if nudity in front of another is a sin, they would have been kicked out before. This belief can be debunked, however, by pointing out that Adam and Eve were technically "married," with or without a priest there to say. Thus, one could say it was OK in their case.

However, when God met with Adam later, he knew that Adam had sinned because Adam was covering himself with fig leaves. Why would God associate sin with the clothed body? I think I know why: it's because sin is founded off a desire to improve upon God's creation rather than build off of it. Adam ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil because he wanted to be better than God had created him. He also hid the body God had given him, I think, for the same purpose. But that's mostly speculation on my part.

Now here's where it starts to get interesting: jumping a few thousand years into the future, I remember one Bible passage where Jesus takes off his robe and, naked before his disciples, washes their feet. If being naked in front of other people were sinning, Jesus certainly wouldn't have done it, or he would have asked if they were comfortable with him doing it first.
Some people have made similar logical connections about Jesus being naked on the cross, but in reality he was forced to be naked, so it made no difference either way as nudity was not his choice.

There are a few other passages that suggest nudity was practiced by Jesus's disciples and he didn't call them out on it, so it must be OK; but I think those are open to speculation.

So if nudity in real life is OK, then nudity in art should be all right, too. In the media, there's nothing inherently wrong with nudity, and that includes video games. It's all about context, which especially in today's modern world is something we have to look out for.
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I don't think they should have any nudity. unless its REALLY REALLY important, which it should never be.
I don't think they should have any nudity. unless its REALLY REALLY important, which it should never be.
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well i think THATS WHAT THE DAMN RATING IS FOR. honestly, only an idiot would buy a game that has nudity in it for their 12 yr old kid :

as long as they give it the appropriate rating, then it is fine. they DO have an adult rating, i just dont think there is any games that utilize it.
well i think THATS WHAT THE DAMN RATING IS FOR. honestly, only an idiot would buy a game that has nudity in it for their 12 yr old kid :

as long as they give it the appropriate rating, then it is fine. they DO have an adult rating, i just dont think there is any games that utilize it.
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I think that videogames are for entertainment and nudity and sexual stuff just takes the fun out of it...
I think that videogames are for entertainment and nudity and sexual stuff just takes the fun out of it...
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We can show people the most violent,gruesome things they're are but when it comes to nudity or anything natural that happens people think its crazy and perverted.
We can show people the most violent,gruesome things they're are but when it comes to nudity or anything natural that happens people think its crazy and perverted.
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