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Some friends of mine (which are very savy when it comes to music) told me that the band slayer or the singer at least are christian.has anyone heard this before?

I know the singer for megadeath (Dave mustang) is one.I just think its weird that some metal singers are christian.Its good though i guess.
Some friends of mine (which are very savy when it comes to music) told me that the band slayer or the singer at least are christian.has anyone heard this before?

I know the singer for megadeath (Dave mustang) is one.I just think its weird that some metal singers are christian.Its good though i guess.
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I'be heard that too and think that one of the members is Christian not all of them though.
I'be heard that too and think that one of the members is Christian not all of them though.
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Their music is awesome, and it would be awesome if they were for Jesus.
But no, sadly their lyrics don't express Christianity.
Their music is awesome, and it would be awesome if they were for Jesus.
But no, sadly their lyrics don't express Christianity.
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i've never heard tom araya (slayer's vocalist) ever profess a Faith in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, let alone any other member of slayer.
in Fact they've only sung praises to satan/the devil/or lucifer (take your pic from their very large library of songs) and glamorized satanism and murder over the years.
i find it very difficult to believe that someone who gave their life and will over to the Will of Christ, would be able to continue to sing songs that continue to do such things, and not in the process either cease to Believe in God, or cause the Holy Spirit to leave them.
i've heard the band members have made statements saying they "TALK ABOUT" the devil and people who do these things, but that they don't believe in it themselves nor condone it.
even if that's the case, they don't seem to concerned about making money off of glamorizing it.
a bit contradictory if you were to be trying to claim you were a Disciple of Christ.

on another note, dave mustaine of mega deth has claimed that he is a Messianic Jew (a Jew who accepts Jesus as the Christ) and you can hear lyrics concerning his Faith on many of their songs as well as Dan Spitz who used to be in the band anthrax.
alice cooper (can't recall his actual name anymore) has also claimed he is a Christian and released 3 albums that dealt with issues of Faith and moral vs. immoral living.
then of course there is brian welch who used to be in the band korn who claims Christianity as his Faith as well.

the list is probably quite vast, but a lot of people claim things and don't necessarily share the Gospel through their talents.
it's a shame considering God gave them those talents in the first place, for that very reason.
i've never heard tom araya (slayer's vocalist) ever profess a Faith in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, let alone any other member of slayer.
in Fact they've only sung praises to satan/the devil/or lucifer (take your pic from their very large library of songs) and glamorized satanism and murder over the years.
i find it very difficult to believe that someone who gave their life and will over to the Will of Christ, would be able to continue to sing songs that continue to do such things, and not in the process either cease to Believe in God, or cause the Holy Spirit to leave them.
i've heard the band members have made statements saying they "TALK ABOUT" the devil and people who do these things, but that they don't believe in it themselves nor condone it.
even if that's the case, they don't seem to concerned about making money off of glamorizing it.
a bit contradictory if you were to be trying to claim you were a Disciple of Christ.

on another note, dave mustaine of mega deth has claimed that he is a Messianic Jew (a Jew who accepts Jesus as the Christ) and you can hear lyrics concerning his Faith on many of their songs as well as Dan Spitz who used to be in the band anthrax.
alice cooper (can't recall his actual name anymore) has also claimed he is a Christian and released 3 albums that dealt with issues of Faith and moral vs. immoral living.
then of course there is brian welch who used to be in the band korn who claims Christianity as his Faith as well.

the list is probably quite vast, but a lot of people claim things and don't necessarily share the Gospel through their talents.
it's a shame considering God gave them those talents in the first place, for that very reason.
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I don't think you can judge them cause there music might be "satanic" its like judging a Christian who made a violent video game or made a violent movie. Most of it is just art and or entertainment and a lot of the times has nothing to do with their beliefs and if it does then it probably is just emotions from a dark time in their life.

Marilyn Manson would be a good example, I'm not 100% sure of this but I'll just say it anyway. I "think" he was raised Christian/Catholic but basically he didn't like being told what to believe from the world so he turned it into his own creation artistically and musically. This does not mean he is the bad guy. A lot of people blamed him for Columbine when he had nothing to do with any of it. Most of it is pure entertainment its all for show.

Let's look at another example lets say Arnold Schwarzenegger plays a bad guy in a movie that kills Christians or something that does not mean he does it in real life. It's all apart of the show, people do it to make money or get attention or attract different audiences regardless of their beliefs.
I don't think you can judge them cause there music might be "satanic" its like judging a Christian who made a violent video game or made a violent movie. Most of it is just art and or entertainment and a lot of the times has nothing to do with their beliefs and if it does then it probably is just emotions from a dark time in their life.

Marilyn Manson would be a good example, I'm not 100% sure of this but I'll just say it anyway. I "think" he was raised Christian/Catholic but basically he didn't like being told what to believe from the world so he turned it into his own creation artistically and musically. This does not mean he is the bad guy. A lot of people blamed him for Columbine when he had nothing to do with any of it. Most of it is pure entertainment its all for show.

Let's look at another example lets say Arnold Schwarzenegger plays a bad guy in a movie that kills Christians or something that does not mean he does it in real life. It's all apart of the show, people do it to make money or get attention or attract different audiences regardless of their beliefs.
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While they might be spiritual, from the sounds of what they sing, they sure don't sound Christian.
While they might be spiritual, from the sounds of what they sing, they sure don't sound Christian.
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I think if a band or a member(s) is supposedly Christian and their music doesn't reflect Christianity, albeit it's just for income, then at the time they're being carnal.

If they're honestly professing faith in Christ as Savior, and are seeking an income through something that doesn't honor the Lord, then the Holy Spirit will eventually convict them of their err.

The message of Biblical-Christianity says to seek 1st the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all your needs will be provided to you (Matthew 6:33).

When the Holy Spirit is indwelling within you, one of His roles is to convict you of your sinfulness. And He enables the reformation within you that you're not able to do on your own.

I think if a band or a member(s) is supposedly Christian and their music doesn't reflect Christianity, albeit it's just for income, then at the time they're being carnal.

If they're honestly professing faith in Christ as Savior, and are seeking an income through something that doesn't honor the Lord, then the Holy Spirit will eventually convict them of their err.

The message of Biblical-Christianity says to seek 1st the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all your needs will be provided to you (Matthew 6:33).

When the Holy Spirit is indwelling within you, one of His roles is to convict you of your sinfulness. And He enables the reformation within you that you're not able to do on your own.

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JigSaw : Those examples are not the same. If you claim to be a Christian, you can't actually sing songs glorifying our mortal enemy. That's just wrong. A real Christian would sing nothing Satanic at all.
Now that's not saying anything about this, as I personally have never listened to Slayer :/.
JigSaw : Those examples are not the same. If you claim to be a Christian, you can't actually sing songs glorifying our mortal enemy. That's just wrong. A real Christian would sing nothing Satanic at all.
Now that's not saying anything about this, as I personally have never listened to Slayer :/.
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Have you ever noticed how most gospel music always talks about blood,Like washing yourself in blood and drinking and eating flesh and torchure, burning forever and ever and stuff like that?lol that stuff creeped me out when i was a kid.
Have you ever noticed how most gospel music always talks about blood,Like washing yourself in blood and drinking and eating flesh and torchure, burning forever and ever and stuff like that?lol that stuff creeped me out when i was a kid.
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It is a completely different when you talk about blood in a Christian sense and when you talk about it in a satanic sense.
It is a completely different when you talk about blood in a Christian sense and when you talk about it in a satanic sense.
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No, but one of the guitarists and the vocalist is. The vocalist said in an interview that he is Roman Catholic, and he is not the type of person who will not sing lyrics just because they go against his beliefs. I personally only have interest in the album Reign in Blood, as it seems to be the least satanic one, with the lyrics in the songs mainly about death.
No, but one of the guitarists and the vocalist is. The vocalist said in an interview that he is Roman Catholic, and he is not the type of person who will not sing lyrics just because they go against his beliefs. I personally only have interest in the album Reign in Blood, as it seems to be the least satanic one, with the lyrics in the songs mainly about death.
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What we sing is what comes from our heart. The words of our mouth are what are in us. Someone can be completely born again and sold out to Jesus and then turn their backs on him just like Peter did. It means they are weak humans that's all. Music does not mean you are or aren't a christian. You can sing satanic lyrics and be a christian. Perhaps the temptation was too much to turn it down this time. Moments of weakness happen to us all including musicians and I'd say especially musicians and people in the lime light. The bigger the spot light the easier the target for the devil. Why would the devil try and bring down one person at a time when he could use a few people (a band for example) to bring down many? Those are his tactics and he's pretty good at them. But there's no need to worry for we know the One who is better than all that and a cherry pie...Jesus. It's an unseen faith. God sees your heart whether you sing about Him or the devil he knows what's there.

On that note, we are all responsible for what we listen to as well. Who are we to blame them for sining that stuff if we go ahead and listen to it right back, adding fuel to the fire?
What we sing is what comes from our heart. The words of our mouth are what are in us. Someone can be completely born again and sold out to Jesus and then turn their backs on him just like Peter did. It means they are weak humans that's all. Music does not mean you are or aren't a christian. You can sing satanic lyrics and be a christian. Perhaps the temptation was too much to turn it down this time. Moments of weakness happen to us all including musicians and I'd say especially musicians and people in the lime light. The bigger the spot light the easier the target for the devil. Why would the devil try and bring down one person at a time when he could use a few people (a band for example) to bring down many? Those are his tactics and he's pretty good at them. But there's no need to worry for we know the One who is better than all that and a cherry pie...Jesus. It's an unseen faith. God sees your heart whether you sing about Him or the devil he knows what's there.

On that note, we are all responsible for what we listen to as well. Who are we to blame them for sining that stuff if we go ahead and listen to it right back, adding fuel to the fire?
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ya ive heard that the whole slayer band is christian weird huh? you would thing music like that wouldnt be christian guys but more power too them!
ya ive heard that the whole slayer band is christian weird huh? you would thing music like that wouldnt be christian guys but more power too them!
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um. . . i'm sorry but i do not find how a person can sing the lyrics, nor play acompanying music to a song where they say "anti-christ is the name of God" or "learn the sacred words of "praise hell satan"" and yet still believe that they are actually a Disciple of Christ.
they would only make these kinds of claims for 1 of 3 reasons.
1. because they find it humorous to mess around with people's heads.
2. because they are confused and actually believe it's justifiable for them to glorify sin and the devil and still claim they are okay with God.
3. to deceive people into thinking that taking part in what they are doing is okay, and that you can be a Disciple of Christ and still glamorize or live a lifestyle of sin because of cheapening the Grace of God as something trivial.

a possible 4th reason is because it could be considered to politically incorrect to claim they are satanists. especially considering how they've been put through legal disputes in the past concerning people who have committed vicious violent crimes in connection to having listened to slayer's lyrics. it might even be for the purpose of attempting to give "christianity" a bad face if they live a certain way and carry that title. we all know there's plenty of people throughout history who have already done this while thinking they were justified in doing so.

a few things from the Bible to keep in mind when considering such things.

"a tree is known by it's fruit."
"a house divided against itself cannot stand."
"you cannot drink from the cup of demons and the cup of Christ, what has Light to do with darkness?"
"work out your Salvation with fear and trembling"
"for it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of God" (if you are living in rebellion to His Will)
um. . . i'm sorry but i do not find how a person can sing the lyrics, nor play acompanying music to a song where they say "anti-christ is the name of God" or "learn the sacred words of "praise hell satan"" and yet still believe that they are actually a Disciple of Christ.
they would only make these kinds of claims for 1 of 3 reasons.
1. because they find it humorous to mess around with people's heads.
2. because they are confused and actually believe it's justifiable for them to glorify sin and the devil and still claim they are okay with God.
3. to deceive people into thinking that taking part in what they are doing is okay, and that you can be a Disciple of Christ and still glamorize or live a lifestyle of sin because of cheapening the Grace of God as something trivial.

a possible 4th reason is because it could be considered to politically incorrect to claim they are satanists. especially considering how they've been put through legal disputes in the past concerning people who have committed vicious violent crimes in connection to having listened to slayer's lyrics. it might even be for the purpose of attempting to give "christianity" a bad face if they live a certain way and carry that title. we all know there's plenty of people throughout history who have already done this while thinking they were justified in doing so.

a few things from the Bible to keep in mind when considering such things.

"a tree is known by it's fruit."
"a house divided against itself cannot stand."
"you cannot drink from the cup of demons and the cup of Christ, what has Light to do with darkness?"
"work out your Salvation with fear and trembling"
"for it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of God" (if you are living in rebellion to His Will)
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One of their members is supposedly Catholic. You just can't go by what people say, even those that self-proclaim. Shall I remind you of the KKK? The band "Slayer" definitely doesn't express Christianity, in fact; I'd say it's the antithesis of Christianity. Their two newest albums are "God hates us all" and "Christ illusion".
One of their members is supposedly Catholic. You just can't go by what people say, even those that self-proclaim. Shall I remind you of the KKK? The band "Slayer" definitely doesn't express Christianity, in fact; I'd say it's the antithesis of Christianity. Their two newest albums are "God hates us all" and "Christ illusion".
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The singer is a lukewarm Catholic. The lyrics are written by another band member, but I don't remember who. The lyricist for the band Venom was also Catholic, I believe. The whole Satan thing doesn't always have anything to do with any of the band member's religious beliefs. In fact, it is often just some crap done just because it was done before. Look at 90% of today's black metal...

I'm a Christian, and I listen to tons of bands who have lyrics about opposing my beliefs. I even am planning to make a song about Satan for fun. It's like the guys who write lyrics about dismembering creatures, or simply humans. They do it for fun. Not everyone will find the humor in it, but those that do will just laugh. I find gore, and simply dark humor funny, so I tend to laugh at the lyrics of a gore-based song.

Also, sometimes, we use what society opposes to make a point. In Norway, the church burnings done by a very small amount of black metal bands who were wanting to make a statement were done because they were angry. They didn't like what happened to the lands of their Nordic ancestors. In fact, one of the churches was built on Pagan land. I don't care what anyone says about this, but that is not right. Olaf probably was a great guy, but if he planned that... He should have thought about what he was doing.

Also, Iron Maiden has Christian members.

Some of the bands who have a song or two not being nice to Christianity are also talking about the problems within the church. Some are making a story. Others, well... In Mayhem's case... The guitarist was an idiot, and probably would have gotten his butt kicked by Gorgoroth's old singer if that guitarist was still alive, and being annoying.
The singer is a lukewarm Catholic. The lyrics are written by another band member, but I don't remember who. The lyricist for the band Venom was also Catholic, I believe. The whole Satan thing doesn't always have anything to do with any of the band member's religious beliefs. In fact, it is often just some crap done just because it was done before. Look at 90% of today's black metal...

I'm a Christian, and I listen to tons of bands who have lyrics about opposing my beliefs. I even am planning to make a song about Satan for fun. It's like the guys who write lyrics about dismembering creatures, or simply humans. They do it for fun. Not everyone will find the humor in it, but those that do will just laugh. I find gore, and simply dark humor funny, so I tend to laugh at the lyrics of a gore-based song.

Also, sometimes, we use what society opposes to make a point. In Norway, the church burnings done by a very small amount of black metal bands who were wanting to make a statement were done because they were angry. They didn't like what happened to the lands of their Nordic ancestors. In fact, one of the churches was built on Pagan land. I don't care what anyone says about this, but that is not right. Olaf probably was a great guy, but if he planned that... He should have thought about what he was doing.

Also, Iron Maiden has Christian members.

Some of the bands who have a song or two not being nice to Christianity are also talking about the problems within the church. Some are making a story. Others, well... In Mayhem's case... The guitarist was an idiot, and probably would have gotten his butt kicked by Gorgoroth's old singer if that guitarist was still alive, and being annoying.
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