Sakura Pryde: Your claim has long since been debunked by actual geologists, instead of people who want it to be true.

From Wikipedia, I bolded notable things:

"Near Dinosaur Valley State Park, in the limestone deposits along the Paluxy River, "twin sets" tracks were found in the Glen Rose Formation as early as 1908. These footprints have been cited by young-Earth creationists as evidence against evolutionary theory. However, at least one major proponent of this claim, John D. Morris, of the Institute for Creation Research, now admits the claim is not well supported by the evidence, that the alleged human tracks may in fact be dinosaurian, and that the tracks near Glen Rose do not support the claim that humans and non-avian dinosaurs coexisted. John Morris and other young-Earth creationists continue to believe that humans and non-avian dinosaurs lived at the same time, a notion that is contrary to the standard view of the geological time scale. This view is the basis for displays at the Creation Evidence Museum in nearby Glen Rose. However, in a rebuttal, biologist Massimo Pigliucci has noted that geologists in the 1980s "clearly demonstrated that no human being left those prints," but rather "they were in fact metatarsal dinosaur tracks, together with a few pure and simple fakes."


"The family of George Adams, the man who originally made the claims, later admitted it was a hoax. "My grandfather was a very good sculptor," said Zana Douglas, from the Adams family who found many of Glen Rose’s real dinosaur tracks. She explained that in the 1930s and the Depression, Glen Rose residents made money by making moonshine and selling dinosaur fossils.[6]The fossils brought $15 to $30 and when the supply ran low, George Adams, Zana's grandfather "just carved more, some with human footprints thrown in."

-en.wikipedia.org "Glen Rose Formation"

And here's a link to the article in the New York Times at the time of its official proclamation as a hoax:
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/06/17/science/fossils-of-man-tracks-shown-to-be-dinosaurian.html

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Sword legion : No one knows what came before. Realistically, it could be anything, so it is my error to try and argue my point. What my point is is that these scientific theories are appropriate to be taught in science because they were formed from a hypothesis and evidence was found and the research is done and over. That's evidence based reasoning and it is science. What i'm saying is that spiritual belief is not evidence based reasoning. It's by no means a wrong way to think, but it's not science-y. That was the original point of this thread. Spiritual belief is a beautiful thing. Strong communities are formed. It has a rich history and culture. Science isn't all great though. Like anything, science can be used for good or bad. E=MC^2 was a great equation. The A-bomb was formed from it. Most of the principles of religious beliefs are to do good. But, people have perverted and abused old texts to justify horrors. Each side has its ups and downs and each has a place on earth. But they're not related. 

I have my reasons for thinking what I think, and they're not unfounded. But, you bring up a good point. Although that's not going to make me believe you, I can see now why you think that. Sometimes all it takes is understanding, and what you said helped me a great deal to understand you.

Also, a parting shot - about accepting things from the experts... you do that too. If you believe that the Bible is true, then you just accept it. Many people just take information from authority figures and that's a problem with our society. I didn't just accept things, I looked it over myself and came to my own conclusion. You came to yours. The end.

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Sword legion : All I'm saying is tat I'm arguing on behalf of science, and I am not myself an expert in the field.


Let's say we're learning about India in social studies. We learn about the caste system, but we want to learn about the culture of India. You can't do that without learning a bit about hinduism, from an objective?standpoint. "They believe this, this, and this". It's a part of the culture and would be a missed learning opportunity about the culture of India if hinduism was ignored. That's just from an objective, cultural standpoint, hence why it's social studies. For instance, schools do units on greek mythology. Kids are taught about the greek gods and what the ancient greeks believed, but they aren't told that it's definitely true. Also, the school might skip over Norse mythology, but it doesn't cause riots, because it doesn't have a place in the curriculum. In a social studies curriculum, if a bit of learning about mythologies about any religion would help the class understand better what was or is going on in those countries, then teach it. Just don't tell them that it is the truth. THAT is the government respecting an establishment of religion, telling kids that their unfounded claims are true. Teaching from a nonbiased standpoint is mythology education. There's a difference between education and indoctrination.

rcarter2 stated perfectly why I didn't want to present a "strongest evidence". I'm also arguing on behalf of separation of church and state, as well as science. I'll tell you right now that I'm not a scientist. But, I can think logically and produce a brilliant argument of the basic ideas. I didn't say that there was no evidence. I said that there is a lot of evidence. Go ask an evolutionary scientist, go talk to an archaeologist. I'm not a scientist, but I can direct you to people who have evidence. If I tried to present all the evidence for evolution, I would drown in all of it. But by all means, present your evidence for creationism, and I will smash it into pieces.

Also, it sees that you've been going to rcarter2 a lot in order to debate. I have no one that I go to, and I'm presenting a pretty good argument on my own. If you need to rely on outside support to help you argue your point, then it seems that you might not be fit for arguing it.

Also, about the universe forming from nothing.


We don't know where it came from, but we know how it came to be. Instead of making a claim with no evidence to back it up, we can stand up and honestly, proudly say that we have no idea. A god that fills in the gaps of knowledge becomes a smaller god as the years pass by.


Also, it's really pathetic that you're resorting to the kindergarten method of effectively calling me a chicken. I can stand up and say that I'm not an expert on the subject, but I have the basic concepts down and can argue them. I'm telling you that there are many more qualified people who can completely smash your claims, and that you should try and debate who really knows evolution and science inside out. You'll end up learning a lot, because it seems that you really don't know a lot.?

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