Sorry about my inactivity. I have a lot of stuff on my plate at the moment.

FoS: deggle

I've been inactive due to some personal reasons that are currently happening outside of Vizzed. I check up once and a while to see what's going on, however.

I'm clueless like all of you. I don't know what to do and who to vote for. It seems like the only way how I see it is we wait for more clues. Yes, the downside is that Mafia kill one more person, but they might also kill one of their own if it happens.

Seishiro Leonhart : I dunno, I expected to have been killed off a while ago, but it seems that the mafia has no interest in killing me. Probably because I would be a waste of a vote *shrug*.

Also, the reason of my inactivity is because of a family emergency I would rather keep private. So with that...

Barathemos : Why exactly are you voting me?

Unvote: Seishiro Leonhart.

Posting on my phone and dont have much time so I'll give my reason later. Just want to make sure I retract my vote.

Taking into consideration the people who "apparently" are AFK for important reasons, from this list we have the following suspects:

juuldude
Barathemos
deggle
pokemon x
Gamin'Gal

All of those are FoS until they clear their reason for inactivity.

I'm going to extend this day round 24 hours.

Some good discussion in here.

Seishiro Leonhart : I'm back, I should have mentioned it on here but I forgot, I was on vacation for 4 days. I'm not going away for some time now, so I should be active on here now again. 

With that being said, I see that SL succesfully showed some good things to defend himself. I think that if I had not been on vacation, I actually might have voted for him as well, but now I'm not going to do that.
I feel like the only thing that has stood out is that the last few night murders were all innocent people, so I have a feeling the mafia has a good idea of who they are killing. It could be he/she knows a few roles and has already killed those. 

juuldude : If you ask me, I would guess they are "making alliances" with people to see their roles. But there really is no other way to learn things in Mafia. Well, they could be just randomly guessing, and luck is on their side. Either way seems totally plausible.

pacman1755 : I was just following Seishiro's plan to just randomly kill somebody. I thought you had received some FOS earlier, but that was last game I changed to no vote.

Seishiro Leonhart : I already explained my reason for inactivity. I see no evidence against anyone, as most of the kills have been unwarrented, and some of the suspected people have already been killed, to no use as they were town. 

Don't you expect someone who is mafia to -not plainly- but stay somewhat active to yield suspicion away from them, a simi active player who is trying to find someone who could be mafia? 

There isn't anything I can see. 

With the current reasons for inactivity given, we come out with 3 people who still haven't given sign of activity:

deggle
pokemon x
Gamin'Gal

I suppose we could attempt to vote one of these off, but we have to decide together, I will spill the beans with all the info I got from Morsalbus, I'd simply copy/paste, but that's not allowed.

Before Morsalbus died, he have mentioned an investigation about soxfan, yoshirulez and myself.

According to Morsalbus, himself and yoshirulez were really Bad Cops, as Morsalbus results came as mafia on all the 3 investigated people, Mors commented how yoshi and Mors have shared their roles between themselves, soxfan and myself.

But then in a new PM Morsalbus told me that he have submitted a PM to deggle, after deggle accused him, Morsalbus REVEALED his role to deggle and asked for the evidence against him. deggle told Morsalbus that he or possibly someone else, observed Mors meeting with Surgiac and ZeeTee on the night that Surgiac died, but Mors was locked in his room last night, which according to him, was the work of Surgiac.

Long story short, there were 4 people who knew about Mors role, yoshirulez (Bad Cop), soxfan (who claims Bystander), myself (who claims Bystander) and deggle (which was given a hint about he being a possible Watcher) and 3 about yoshirulez's role, Morsalbus himself, soxfan and myself.

I think I see 2 possibilities here:

-deggle lied about seeing Morsalbus meeting with Surgiac and ZeeTee.
-soxfan lied about being Bystander (he turned up clean) but is actually a Godfather.

I don't particularly suspect soxfan, but I have to say what I have held until now because I was afraid I would probably be targeted or no one would believe me.

We still have time to discuss this.

I'll throw in everything I know now. I talked to both Mors and yoshi, and everything SL said is accurate. The reports I know of are the following:

Me - investigated as mafia
Seishiro - investigated as mafia
Gamin'Gal - investigated as mafia
deggle - investigated as mafia with a power role

Worth noting that both Mors and yoshi had plans to talk to deggle the night before they both died. It's definitely suspicious, but how could deggle have been seen as mafia with a power role by a bad cop if that's accurate? He'd appear as just mafia if he were the godfather.

So I'd add a third option to SL's list, deggle has awful luck and our 2 bad cops just happened to die after PMing him.

You guys have about 6 hours before I update.

So hopefully you use it well.

Anyone willing to do a current vote tally and a recap of everyone that's died? I feel like we still have the numbers to mislynch another day. But I don't remember our starting numbers or how many mafia died. I remember that they seemed to be dropping like flies early on.

soxfan849 : Come to think of it, we (well, mostly I) have been begging for any kind of information that someone with a power role may have, and so far we had none besides the ones dead, sure deggle may be really the watcher, but I find a bit too curious that the cops died being that 3 people who claim Bystander is involved with the knowledge of the existence of the Cops, yes, I will not take myself off the suspect list as I am one of the people who knew Mors and yoshi's roles.

I FoS deggle as Godfather could be called a Power role but I feel forced to also FoS soxfan for also being involved.

deggle : I would like to hear/read what you have to say, you are one player who have avoided communication and have been involved into suspicious activities.

OK so update time.

Nobody died. Again.

It's a night round. Let's make it 48 hours. All rounds from here on out will be this long.

juuldude :
pacman1755 :
Barathemos :
NovemberJoy :
deggle :
Popeye116 :
earthwarrior :
soxfan849 :
starwars293 :
UserMike :
Blubcreator :
pokemon x :
A user of this :
Seishiro Leonhart :
Gamin'Gal :

You awake in the morning. pokemon x does not.

He was a Leggyist, so he loses.

With the last third dead, one of two things will happen in the day round, if you choose to actually kill someone for once.

Either the mafia will lose a member, or the town will gain an advantage that has been waiting to be unleashed.

Or is it an advantage?

juuldude :
pacman1755 :
Barathemos :
NovemberJoy :
deggle :
Popeye116 :
earthwarrior :
soxfan849 :
starwars293 :
UserMike :
Blubcreator :
A user of this :
Seishiro Leonhart :
Gamin'Gal :

So, it seems mafia literally just wrote off someone who wasn't doing anything in the first place, which imo is nice. But it's ironic it was a leggyist (best role in the game)

SeishiroeLeonhart : It's funny I was going to reply to you and everything but Leggy beat me to it, so I made like a whole speech. But yeah I see my position, in the moment that I do seem suspicious. I don't really have anything to really prove myself innocent but what can I say. I'm unlucky af. Also I haven't avoided communication at all, I was participating in the shadows... And actually anything could be considered a power role, it's just a matter of figuring out what is better than the others. 

I have minimal evidence to support my claim that I'm innocent like you say. 

Sadly I don't think I'm allowed to share information that I think "could" be beneficial because it might be against the rules.

Also isn't it funny how Seishiro was talking about we should vote off Pokemon x, Gamin'gal, or me, but poke is the one who dies in the end. So either the mafia really wants everyone else dead to place more suspicion on me or they legit followed Sl's idea and killed off someone inactive. 

And I didn't even know Juul was still in this game, like did he even post for the last 2 day rounds? I'm also not really suspicious of anything at the moment as I have no concrete evidence on anything because vague things rule. But I can see you guys are trying to at least put something together xD

deggle : Like I said, I was on vacation
I do agree though that what you mentioned about Seishiro strikes me as odd. Not only was he talking about voting off pokemon x, but seeing that he knew this much together with soxfan would make him more dangerous for the mafia perhaps, but they're both in the game. 

So... pokemon x has been killed now. He was a Leggyist, but if the mafia knew of his role then they could have killed him at any point, so I'm starting to doubt how much the mafia do know about us actually. At least Seishiro and soxfan did share some info, but I'm not that sure how it will help us further. 

So... does anyone have any ideas? I wish I would know something but I haven't spoken to anyone outside this thread nor have I been contacted by any of the players. 

deggle :

What did you learn last night?