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So, I feel like this thread has needed to be made for a while. Instead of having a new thread every time something happens or a PPV comes along we should keep all the discussion here.



So, thoughts on current WWE storylines and what not? Anything standing out to you? Anything you're tired of? This should be about current storylines that are going on. Please don't focus on things that are long gone but about what is currently happening or possible future directions for storylines.
So, I feel like this thread has needed to be made for a while. Instead of having a new thread every time something happens or a PPV comes along we should keep all the discussion here.



So, thoughts on current WWE storylines and what not? Anything standing out to you? Anything you're tired of? This should be about current storylines that are going on. Please don't focus on things that are long gone but about what is currently happening or possible future directions for storylines.
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Here are my take on current story lines in the WWE

The Taker Vs Lesner storyline seems to be getting old. I really do not like this storyline. I guess it should have been done last year. The storyline is Taker has waited over 15 months to get his revenge. This storyline should have been for this years Wrestle-mania were taker gets his revenge on Lesner. This seems to be poorly planned I get it that they want Summer Slam to be the big one as it is part of the the big 4 Paper views the others being the Survivor, Rumble and Mania. My guess is this will conclude the feud and lead to a possible Sting vs Taker. Still this storyline is a few months late 

Dolph Ziggler and Rusev storyline. This is another one I do not like it. I think it was foolish to break Lana and Rusev up as they had a good thing going. Seems like they are trying to develop a love triangle here. Were Rusev still loves Lana, but Dolph now loves Lana and Summer loves Rusev but is jealous over Lana. No telling were this one will go but its pretty boring. 

The Wyatt family reunites. I actually like this storyline it makes sense. The Wyatts were intriguing as a stable. It makes them more powerful Wyatt goes good with Luke Harper. I'm curious to see if Rowan rejoins but he is out for a while with an injury. It seems like they are hinting at a Wyatt vs newly formed shield. Ambrose and Reigns have been teaming up again and both were parts of the Shield. This also allows the individual characters to develop more. Reigns is developing into a tough guy, Ambrose a crazy guy, Wyatt a creepy guy and with Harper having that creepy and mysterious feel to him. I think this is one of the good story lines the company has going for it. 

Cena and Seth Rollins this does not make sense to me. Cena is a USA Champion and Rollins is the World Champion so why would these two be feuding. I was hoping Rollins would feud with Lesner and Cena gets beat via Owens at Summer Slam. My guess here is that they want Cena back in the title hunt. They could have Cena drop his US title at some point which brings me to the next story line 

Cesaro and Owens. This is a feud that could be boring or really exciting. Cesaro seems to be getting a push that he deserves. Owens Is up and coming. Both guys seem to be feuding. The storyline that could develop is who is better and a contender for the US Belt. Look for these to go back and forth. It would not be surprising if Cena drops the title to one of these guys and at Survivor goes after Rollins for the Title. If the WWE is smart they would have Taker getting his revenge, Lesner goes on a rampage stalks Rollins. Cena looses his belt in a open chalenge setting a Survivor feud between Cesaro and Owens for the US belt. Lesner, Cena and Rollins battle each other in a triple threat to see who will survive. 

Diva's Revolution. I admit having the up and coming women wrestlers team with the veterans is a nice touch. Each female could develop her own character plus they are getting more screen time. The women wrestling has not been good in the past few years so this is bringing credibility and new ideas. The female wrestlers were thin. It was getting old having the Bellas feud with Paige. I mean that is what WWE basically only had but with new talent more story lines. 
Here are my take on current story lines in the WWE

The Taker Vs Lesner storyline seems to be getting old. I really do not like this storyline. I guess it should have been done last year. The storyline is Taker has waited over 15 months to get his revenge. This storyline should have been for this years Wrestle-mania were taker gets his revenge on Lesner. This seems to be poorly planned I get it that they want Summer Slam to be the big one as it is part of the the big 4 Paper views the others being the Survivor, Rumble and Mania. My guess is this will conclude the feud and lead to a possible Sting vs Taker. Still this storyline is a few months late 

Dolph Ziggler and Rusev storyline. This is another one I do not like it. I think it was foolish to break Lana and Rusev up as they had a good thing going. Seems like they are trying to develop a love triangle here. Were Rusev still loves Lana, but Dolph now loves Lana and Summer loves Rusev but is jealous over Lana. No telling were this one will go but its pretty boring. 

The Wyatt family reunites. I actually like this storyline it makes sense. The Wyatts were intriguing as a stable. It makes them more powerful Wyatt goes good with Luke Harper. I'm curious to see if Rowan rejoins but he is out for a while with an injury. It seems like they are hinting at a Wyatt vs newly formed shield. Ambrose and Reigns have been teaming up again and both were parts of the Shield. This also allows the individual characters to develop more. Reigns is developing into a tough guy, Ambrose a crazy guy, Wyatt a creepy guy and with Harper having that creepy and mysterious feel to him. I think this is one of the good story lines the company has going for it. 

Cena and Seth Rollins this does not make sense to me. Cena is a USA Champion and Rollins is the World Champion so why would these two be feuding. I was hoping Rollins would feud with Lesner and Cena gets beat via Owens at Summer Slam. My guess here is that they want Cena back in the title hunt. They could have Cena drop his US title at some point which brings me to the next story line 

Cesaro and Owens. This is a feud that could be boring or really exciting. Cesaro seems to be getting a push that he deserves. Owens Is up and coming. Both guys seem to be feuding. The storyline that could develop is who is better and a contender for the US Belt. Look for these to go back and forth. It would not be surprising if Cena drops the title to one of these guys and at Survivor goes after Rollins for the Title. If the WWE is smart they would have Taker getting his revenge, Lesner goes on a rampage stalks Rollins. Cena looses his belt in a open chalenge setting a Survivor feud between Cesaro and Owens for the US belt. Lesner, Cena and Rollins battle each other in a triple threat to see who will survive. 

Diva's Revolution. I admit having the up and coming women wrestlers team with the veterans is a nice touch. Each female could develop her own character plus they are getting more screen time. The women wrestling has not been good in the past few years so this is bringing credibility and new ideas. The female wrestlers were thin. It was getting old having the Bellas feud with Paige. I mean that is what WWE basically only had but with new talent more story lines. 
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tornadocam : it was old because it took Taker this long to be healthy enough to actually be in the ring again. I also hope that it does lead to a Taker vs Sting match. I still don't know why they would fight though. The reason is lacking for me. I want to see it but it seems like a pointless fight right now.

Agreed on this one as well. I think Ziggler is hurt honestly. Either way I liked having Lana with Rusev. He got so much heat just being "Russian". It was so simple and people got pissed every time he won. It was working.

I hope the entire family reunites as well. They were awesome. And reforming the shield might be neat too. I don't like that one as much because I dislike reforming groups with half the members it used to have. If you can get 3/4 then okay but 2/3 original members seems strange to me. Still I think the Wyatt family and the Shield were some of the best stuff from the last 5 years.

I hate Cena vs Rollins. Not because the matches would be bad. I actually think Cena vs anyone right now has been great. It just doesn't make sense yet again. Cena needs to drop the title before going after the Heavyweight belt.

I think Cesaro vs Rollins makes more sense. Cesaro is so awesome. He has been so solid for so long and I think his tag partner getting hurt was the best thing that could have happened for him. He's now in the Owens/Cena/Rollins picture and that is only good for him. I personally think it would have made more sense to have Rollins vs Cesaro or Rollins/Cesaro/Cena but whatever.

Divas - honestly since AJ left I haven't cared about the Divas except for Paige. Now that they are bringing in girls from NXT I am willing to give them another chance. The Bella twins storylines recently have been so bad that they needed to shake things up or just stop putting them on RAW.
tornadocam : it was old because it took Taker this long to be healthy enough to actually be in the ring again. I also hope that it does lead to a Taker vs Sting match. I still don't know why they would fight though. The reason is lacking for me. I want to see it but it seems like a pointless fight right now.

Agreed on this one as well. I think Ziggler is hurt honestly. Either way I liked having Lana with Rusev. He got so much heat just being "Russian". It was so simple and people got pissed every time he won. It was working.

I hope the entire family reunites as well. They were awesome. And reforming the shield might be neat too. I don't like that one as much because I dislike reforming groups with half the members it used to have. If you can get 3/4 then okay but 2/3 original members seems strange to me. Still I think the Wyatt family and the Shield were some of the best stuff from the last 5 years.

I hate Cena vs Rollins. Not because the matches would be bad. I actually think Cena vs anyone right now has been great. It just doesn't make sense yet again. Cena needs to drop the title before going after the Heavyweight belt.

I think Cesaro vs Rollins makes more sense. Cesaro is so awesome. He has been so solid for so long and I think his tag partner getting hurt was the best thing that could have happened for him. He's now in the Owens/Cena/Rollins picture and that is only good for him. I personally think it would have made more sense to have Rollins vs Cesaro or Rollins/Cesaro/Cena but whatever.

Divas - honestly since AJ left I haven't cared about the Divas except for Paige. Now that they are bringing in girls from NXT I am willing to give them another chance. The Bella twins storylines recently have been so bad that they needed to shake things up or just stop putting them on RAW.
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So, last nights Raw was okay. I wasn't super impressed but there were some nice moments.

First match - when Orton and Sheamus were in the ring - bored! When Owens and Cesaro were in the ring - interested. That about sums up what is going on there. Sheamus should not have the money in the bank contract. I really hope someone manages to get it from him.

Next match - Reigns and Harper - again, pretty boring. I like the Wyatt family in general and their rivalry with the Shield was awesome but it feels stale now.

Divas - didn't really care. Not a bad match but I don't know either of them to care much either way right now.

Rusev vs Mark Henry - how many times is Mark Henry going to lose to Rusev? Seriously? This has got to be 4 or 5 now. It's getting old. I did like the return of Ziggler though. It was SO obvious that it was going to happen with how Lana kept looking for him but still fun. I've liked Ziggler for a long time and I'm glad he's back. He's a shoe in for a good match most of the time.

Ryback vs Miz - I can't stand Ryback right now. I preferred him as a heel although he wasn't much better then. Either way this storyline is boring to me. Being against the Miz isn't helping much either. He's lost whatever spark he had when he was champion a few years back.

Rollins/Cena "contract signing" - I actually enjoyed this. I liked how it developed. I do think that Rollins is going to be a main event guy for years to come and I hope he is. He has high quality matches regularly and can wrestle just about anyone. I also enjoyed Cena's speech. Now, in the end I hope Cena loses the match to put over Rollins even more. Cena has won enough and he needs to stop going for the title and continue giving new talent opportunities to get noticed. Look at what it did for Owens alone.

Tag Team Match - could the tag team division be more dry? "New day sucks!" And a couple other teams that I don't know. And the prime time players (I actually kind of like them now that they aren't heels). Still, not much going on here.

Divas again - still not super interested in the Divas right now. Hopefully the new people can kick start things but so far I'm not caring too much.

Final segment - fairly predictable. Loved the ovation Lesnar got. Hated the singing but I love Paul Heyman on the mic. Then the lights go out and Taker shows up and he beats up Lesnar. A little too easily I think but they are setting him up to look like the winner. He also sort of looks like the heel now. I actually kind of like this if they use it somehow to bring back Sting. Not sure where it'll go though.
So, last nights Raw was okay. I wasn't super impressed but there were some nice moments.

First match - when Orton and Sheamus were in the ring - bored! When Owens and Cesaro were in the ring - interested. That about sums up what is going on there. Sheamus should not have the money in the bank contract. I really hope someone manages to get it from him.

Next match - Reigns and Harper - again, pretty boring. I like the Wyatt family in general and their rivalry with the Shield was awesome but it feels stale now.

Divas - didn't really care. Not a bad match but I don't know either of them to care much either way right now.

Rusev vs Mark Henry - how many times is Mark Henry going to lose to Rusev? Seriously? This has got to be 4 or 5 now. It's getting old. I did like the return of Ziggler though. It was SO obvious that it was going to happen with how Lana kept looking for him but still fun. I've liked Ziggler for a long time and I'm glad he's back. He's a shoe in for a good match most of the time.

Ryback vs Miz - I can't stand Ryback right now. I preferred him as a heel although he wasn't much better then. Either way this storyline is boring to me. Being against the Miz isn't helping much either. He's lost whatever spark he had when he was champion a few years back.

Rollins/Cena "contract signing" - I actually enjoyed this. I liked how it developed. I do think that Rollins is going to be a main event guy for years to come and I hope he is. He has high quality matches regularly and can wrestle just about anyone. I also enjoyed Cena's speech. Now, in the end I hope Cena loses the match to put over Rollins even more. Cena has won enough and he needs to stop going for the title and continue giving new talent opportunities to get noticed. Look at what it did for Owens alone.

Tag Team Match - could the tag team division be more dry? "New day sucks!" And a couple other teams that I don't know. And the prime time players (I actually kind of like them now that they aren't heels). Still, not much going on here.

Divas again - still not super interested in the Divas right now. Hopefully the new people can kick start things but so far I'm not caring too much.

Final segment - fairly predictable. Loved the ovation Lesnar got. Hated the singing but I love Paul Heyman on the mic. Then the lights go out and Taker shows up and he beats up Lesnar. A little too easily I think but they are setting him up to look like the winner. He also sort of looks like the heel now. I actually kind of like this if they use it somehow to bring back Sting. Not sure where it'll go though.
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Summerslam Results:

Orton vs Sheamus - considering I had almost no expectations for this match going in I thought it was pretty good. I liked how Sheamus rolled out of the ring after a couple of awesome moves by Orton. It was a pretty good back and forth match for Orton and Sheamus. I'm not a big fan of them against it each cause it's usually pretty boring but they stepped it up for the PPV. The double brogue kick to win the match was pretty cool. I don't think I've seen 2 that close together before.

4 Way Tag Team Match - it had it's spots but for the most part it was boring. I liked the finish though. The sneaky tag at the end to win the match was cool.

Ziggler - Rusev - I love watching Ziggler in the ring. He is always going 100%. When he hit his head off the turnbuckle it looked awesome. He is great at taking punishment. The match seemed to go more or less like expected though. Rusev is bigger and stronger and beat Ziggler up for most of the match. Ziggler got his little bursts in and "almost" won and then Rusev would pound him down again. And then the girls got involved.... at least the match was good up until then.

Stardust/Barrett - Amell/Nevill - I'm not usually a fan of having people who aren't wrestlers come into wrestling and try to wrestle. However, I think Amell did alright. He didn't look great but it was good enough. I was impressed with how many bumps he took though and the jump off the top rope was awesome. It was totally a "feel good" type match but it was done properly. I enjoyed it for what it was.

Big Show - Ryback - Miz - I was dreading this match. I'm tired of Big Show and Miz both and Ryback doesn't really do anything for me as a champion. However, the way the match went down was pretty good. Miz was his usual weaselly self. Trying to sneak into the match when it was to his advantage. Never worked well for him during the match but fighting those guys what choice did he have? Still, that strategy is what basically gave Ryback the win. Not shocked (or interested) in this storyline. I hope Ryback moves on from this soon.

Wyatts - 2/3 Shield - Uh.... Maleficent vs the shield??? What is on his head? Whatever... he's "evil". As for the match.... they had some cool moves but this rivalry feels stale to me. The match was good. It was nearly textbook honestly. However, that fall into the ropes that Dean Ambrose does is so CRAPPY. It looks so bad now. If the guy doesn't hit you hard enough to actually need to bounce off the ropes then it looks idiotic. Thankfully he tagged out right after that so "superman punch" could come and finish the match (I assume). Oh wait, a powerbomb!!!! And a kick out while Ambrose sits and watches his partner kick out.... Shouldn't he have tried to help? Whatever... nothing Ambrose does seems to make sense anymore. Oh well, Roman Reigns looked strong. That's what matters I was waiting for some sort of swerve with this match. Like Ambrose turning on Reigns or something.

Cena vs Rollins - As much as I didn't want to see this match happen now that it is I am interested to see how it plays out. Cena is great in title matches at PPV's (in general) and Rollins just keeps evolving as a wrestler that this should be a good one. I've been typing while watching most of these matches and I'm 10 minutes into this match and I stopped to write this so that I can say I wrote something.... I'm too interested in the match to do write anything else. It's just so good. Each near fall could have legitimately been the end of the match. Superplex into whatever facebuster drop thing he did.... so awesome! That should have done it. And now the ref is out.... why can't he get a clean win? I get that he's a heel but that match didn't need that kind of win. It was too good to end that way. So disappointed. People would have gone crazy if he had just won cleanly.

Divas triple threat triple? tag match - boring There is so much potential and the Bellas just ruin things for me. Hopefully someone can take the title so it isn't about the Bellas anymore and they can go waste time on that TV show they are also on.

Owens - Cesaro - I was really looking forward to this and while it didn't really disappoint I also feel like it didn't deliver either. Still, some absolutely great moves on each side as always. Loving the NXT guys and the stuff they come up with to do. Keeps matches interesting.

Lesnar - Undertaker - I'm torn on this match. Intros are still going on while I type this.... I'm not sure how good this match is going to be. All depends on how healthy Undertaker is. I assume he's healthy since he's here but you never know. I hope he is because I don't want another Wrestlemania match where Lesnar destroys Undertaker. (...... and it's still going....) OH yes! Lesnar isn't wasting time! That 10 second sequence just got me excited for this match now. I'm so glad "old school" didn't happen but I'm more glad the first F5 didn't happen that fast either. Take your time with this one! I'm glad we are seeing as much back and forth as we are in this match. No one is getting a big advantage at any time. Each guy gets a few moves and then the other guy counters. Really enjoyable so far. OW! F5 through the table did not land right. I'd be shocked if there isn't at least 1 broken rib. Now THAT is a chokeslam! Kick out of the tombstone is not surprising anymore. They shouldn't do it. A single tombstone should finish someone next time.... Last ride, near fall... I wonder if Taker can F5 Lesnar.... well, he CAN kick out of 2 F5's in a row.... I was actually surprised he kicked out of the 2nd one. Hell's gate! Kumora lock.... wtf???? The match is still going? Undertaker wins? What is going on? Oh... that was a strange ending... I wonder who came up with that.




Well, overall I liked the PPV. Anyone else who has watched it feel free to post your thoughts on how it went. I wonder where things are going to go from here. I don't know if they'll want to do Lesnar vs Taker a third time.... we'll see tomorrow night I guess.
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Orton vs Sheamus - considering I had almost no expectations for this match going in I thought it was pretty good. I liked how Sheamus rolled out of the ring after a couple of awesome moves by Orton. It was a pretty good back and forth match for Orton and Sheamus. I'm not a big fan of them against it each cause it's usually pretty boring but they stepped it up for the PPV. The double brogue kick to win the match was pretty cool. I don't think I've seen 2 that close together before.

4 Way Tag Team Match - it had it's spots but for the most part it was boring. I liked the finish though. The sneaky tag at the end to win the match was cool.

Ziggler - Rusev - I love watching Ziggler in the ring. He is always going 100%. When he hit his head off the turnbuckle it looked awesome. He is great at taking punishment. The match seemed to go more or less like expected though. Rusev is bigger and stronger and beat Ziggler up for most of the match. Ziggler got his little bursts in and "almost" won and then Rusev would pound him down again. And then the girls got involved.... at least the match was good up until then.

Stardust/Barrett - Amell/Nevill - I'm not usually a fan of having people who aren't wrestlers come into wrestling and try to wrestle. However, I think Amell did alright. He didn't look great but it was good enough. I was impressed with how many bumps he took though and the jump off the top rope was awesome. It was totally a "feel good" type match but it was done properly. I enjoyed it for what it was.

Big Show - Ryback - Miz - I was dreading this match. I'm tired of Big Show and Miz both and Ryback doesn't really do anything for me as a champion. However, the way the match went down was pretty good. Miz was his usual weaselly self. Trying to sneak into the match when it was to his advantage. Never worked well for him during the match but fighting those guys what choice did he have? Still, that strategy is what basically gave Ryback the win. Not shocked (or interested) in this storyline. I hope Ryback moves on from this soon.

Wyatts - 2/3 Shield - Uh.... Maleficent vs the shield??? What is on his head? Whatever... he's "evil". As for the match.... they had some cool moves but this rivalry feels stale to me. The match was good. It was nearly textbook honestly. However, that fall into the ropes that Dean Ambrose does is so CRAPPY. It looks so bad now. If the guy doesn't hit you hard enough to actually need to bounce off the ropes then it looks idiotic. Thankfully he tagged out right after that so "superman punch" could come and finish the match (I assume). Oh wait, a powerbomb!!!! And a kick out while Ambrose sits and watches his partner kick out.... Shouldn't he have tried to help? Whatever... nothing Ambrose does seems to make sense anymore. Oh well, Roman Reigns looked strong. That's what matters I was waiting for some sort of swerve with this match. Like Ambrose turning on Reigns or something.

Cena vs Rollins - As much as I didn't want to see this match happen now that it is I am interested to see how it plays out. Cena is great in title matches at PPV's (in general) and Rollins just keeps evolving as a wrestler that this should be a good one. I've been typing while watching most of these matches and I'm 10 minutes into this match and I stopped to write this so that I can say I wrote something.... I'm too interested in the match to do write anything else. It's just so good. Each near fall could have legitimately been the end of the match. Superplex into whatever facebuster drop thing he did.... so awesome! That should have done it. And now the ref is out.... why can't he get a clean win? I get that he's a heel but that match didn't need that kind of win. It was too good to end that way. So disappointed. People would have gone crazy if he had just won cleanly.

Divas triple threat triple? tag match - boring There is so much potential and the Bellas just ruin things for me. Hopefully someone can take the title so it isn't about the Bellas anymore and they can go waste time on that TV show they are also on.

Owens - Cesaro - I was really looking forward to this and while it didn't really disappoint I also feel like it didn't deliver either. Still, some absolutely great moves on each side as always. Loving the NXT guys and the stuff they come up with to do. Keeps matches interesting.

Lesnar - Undertaker - I'm torn on this match. Intros are still going on while I type this.... I'm not sure how good this match is going to be. All depends on how healthy Undertaker is. I assume he's healthy since he's here but you never know. I hope he is because I don't want another Wrestlemania match where Lesnar destroys Undertaker. (...... and it's still going....) OH yes! Lesnar isn't wasting time! That 10 second sequence just got me excited for this match now. I'm so glad "old school" didn't happen but I'm more glad the first F5 didn't happen that fast either. Take your time with this one! I'm glad we are seeing as much back and forth as we are in this match. No one is getting a big advantage at any time. Each guy gets a few moves and then the other guy counters. Really enjoyable so far. OW! F5 through the table did not land right. I'd be shocked if there isn't at least 1 broken rib. Now THAT is a chokeslam! Kick out of the tombstone is not surprising anymore. They shouldn't do it. A single tombstone should finish someone next time.... Last ride, near fall... I wonder if Taker can F5 Lesnar.... well, he CAN kick out of 2 F5's in a row.... I was actually surprised he kicked out of the 2nd one. Hell's gate! Kumora lock.... wtf???? The match is still going? Undertaker wins? What is going on? Oh... that was a strange ending... I wonder who came up with that.




Well, overall I liked the PPV. Anyone else who has watched it feel free to post your thoughts on how it went. I wonder where things are going to go from here. I don't know if they'll want to do Lesnar vs Taker a third time.... we'll see tomorrow night I guess.
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It's taken me an extra day to watch Raw but I'm watching it right now and going to talk about the parts that I want to.

Brock Lesnar starting the show was good. After the way the match ended I want to know where they are taking this storyline. I love listening to a Paul Heyman segment. I may not always agree with him but he can deliver! There it is.... Brock Lesnar wants to fight the Undertaker 1 more time. I was waiting for this. Now to see who comes out.... Bo Dallas.... someone is about to get destroyed. Yup.... destroyed over and over again.


Tag team match - the match was okay. Didn't really care that much. However, I was SHOCKED when the Dudleys showed up. I am a big fan of them. This is awesome They both look pretty good too considering how old they are.

Wyatts vs Shield again - not sure why this is happening again but I guess beating the Wyatts at a PPV means these guys still need to fight each other. Nevermind, I see why they needed another match. Gotta find a way to bring back the mystery person who turns out to be..... a new Wyatt? They had to do something like this to spice up this rivalry. Question now becomes who do Reigns and Ambrose bring in to even this back up. I'm a bit more interested in this storyline now that this guy is here. He's huge. I'll be paying a bit more attention to this now.

Divas - didn't care.

Startdust - didn't care.

Jon Stewart - interested in finding out why he got involved in the title match. Loved the reason and I again was surprised when Flair's music started. I love Ric Flair so I was happy to watch him come out. WWE is bringing back some names tonight. And now Cena is out. Wow! I can't believe he gave him an AA. It's hard to tell if this might be the start of a heel turn or if people will see it as Cena getting even or something. Still awesome to watch

8-man tag match - sounds like they wanted to keep everyone in a match together and didn't have time to have 3 or 4 matches with each rivalry covered.

So, the big guy is the "black sheep" or something or other.... still want to see more of him.

Cena is out of the building.... not a surprise. Can't have him interfere but he'll get back into the building somehow. He'll sneak in on a beer truck or milk truck Just waiting for it to happen. Still waiting for the swerve.... and Rollins is still talking . I did not see that one coming.... at all. Tonight has been a great night for surprises. The real question is.... why? For the Title??????? I find that one hard to believe. I like Sting and all but him for the title doesn't make much sense.

Oh well. I really enjoyed Raw tonight. Easily one of the better ones I've watched in months.
It's taken me an extra day to watch Raw but I'm watching it right now and going to talk about the parts that I want to.

Brock Lesnar starting the show was good. After the way the match ended I want to know where they are taking this storyline. I love listening to a Paul Heyman segment. I may not always agree with him but he can deliver! There it is.... Brock Lesnar wants to fight the Undertaker 1 more time. I was waiting for this. Now to see who comes out.... Bo Dallas.... someone is about to get destroyed. Yup.... destroyed over and over again.


Tag team match - the match was okay. Didn't really care that much. However, I was SHOCKED when the Dudleys showed up. I am a big fan of them. This is awesome They both look pretty good too considering how old they are.

Wyatts vs Shield again - not sure why this is happening again but I guess beating the Wyatts at a PPV means these guys still need to fight each other. Nevermind, I see why they needed another match. Gotta find a way to bring back the mystery person who turns out to be..... a new Wyatt? They had to do something like this to spice up this rivalry. Question now becomes who do Reigns and Ambrose bring in to even this back up. I'm a bit more interested in this storyline now that this guy is here. He's huge. I'll be paying a bit more attention to this now.

Divas - didn't care.

Startdust - didn't care.

Jon Stewart - interested in finding out why he got involved in the title match. Loved the reason and I again was surprised when Flair's music started. I love Ric Flair so I was happy to watch him come out. WWE is bringing back some names tonight. And now Cena is out. Wow! I can't believe he gave him an AA. It's hard to tell if this might be the start of a heel turn or if people will see it as Cena getting even or something. Still awesome to watch

8-man tag match - sounds like they wanted to keep everyone in a match together and didn't have time to have 3 or 4 matches with each rivalry covered.

So, the big guy is the "black sheep" or something or other.... still want to see more of him.

Cena is out of the building.... not a surprise. Can't have him interfere but he'll get back into the building somehow. He'll sneak in on a beer truck or milk truck Just waiting for it to happen. Still waiting for the swerve.... and Rollins is still talking . I did not see that one coming.... at all. Tonight has been a great night for surprises. The real question is.... why? For the Title??????? I find that one hard to believe. I like Sting and all but him for the title doesn't make much sense.

Oh well. I really enjoyed Raw tonight. Easily one of the better ones I've watched in months.
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I forgot to post my thoughts about Summerslam, but I may as well do that now.

Randy Orton vs Sheamus - Opening the PPV with one of the matches I wanted to get out of the way early is fantastic. Making it the match that makes the most sense to open? Even better! This opens the door for Sheamus to potentially cash in later in the night... but he won't. Sheamus enters, and man, I frigging can't believe they let him win Money in the Bank. He's one of the LEAST over superstars around, and his new look makes him impossible to take seriously. They may as well repackage him as a member of the Wyatt Family. It would boost his star, and give the Wyatt Family some new blood. Really, why isn't this being done? All told, it wasn't a horrible match. It featured decent spots. The RKO off the Sheamus Slingshot, the double Brogue Kick? Those are moves you save for Summerslam. It's just a shame this feud is older than Randy Orton and his graying beard.

Prime Time Players vs. Lucha Dragons vs. New Day vs. Los Matadores - I was really looking forward to this match, and honestly, it didn't disappoint. The New Day is one of the most entertaining acts in WWE these days, and they are so over with the audience as well. There were some interesting spots, and I never cease to be amazed by Titus O'Neil. If booked properly, he could really go far as a singles competitor. I love Kalisto, too. Similar to Titus O'Neil, I just wish the Tag Team division didn't suck, because he's deserving of singles success. The only team I came away unimpressed with was Los Matadores, but that's not disappointing, because everyone knows they suck. Just be thankful it wasn't the UsNos.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Rusev - Dolph Ziggler is one of my favorite competitors to watch day in and day out, but I really could not care less for this awful feud. Wherein the "face" (Ziggler) is acting like an immature spoiler brat, with a petty b**** (Lana) as his companion, going after the "heels", one of whom presumably misses his "ex-girlfriend" (Rusev) and a bimbo who actually stands up for him (Summer Rae). Faces should have moral high ground over heels. All I can do in story line is feel sorry for Rusev, and wish he could move on to something that would actually elevate his stock in the company. The double count out was just a bulls*** ending that makes it obvious this s***ty feud is continuing.

Stardust/King Barrett vs. Stephen Amell/Neville - I liked the idea of this match in theory. Cody is one of the best performers WWE has, and so few people seem to realize it. He's put on thousands of masks (sometimes literally), and has nailed each character, and gotten the exact reaction he wants out of the WWE Universe. He's one of my favorite competitors, and I actually like the Stardust character. All that said, it's obvious why I wanted this match. It's a chance for Neville (someone I have never been particularly interested in) to face someone on his level (King Barrett), but also showcase his skills against a high level mid carder in Stardust. I didn't figure Amell would do much, but get in the Celebrity Punch of Doom in on Stardust. I came away even happier than I figured I would be, because as it turns out, Amell has skills, to the point I wouldn't be sad to see him get a singles match against Stardust. Obviously, Amell isn't a trained superstar, and was able to hide in a tag match more, so his deficiencies were better hidden. But Cody is talented enough that he can probably carry Amell in the later stages of such a match, and make the whole thing a treat. Came away super impressed with everyone. Great event.

Big Show vs. Ryback vs. The Miz - Not interested. I actually took my piss break during this match and thank god it was over soon after I came back. This should have been a pre-show match, where no one would have seen it. Big Show needs to f***ing retire, Ryback needs to stop trying, and The Miz needs to stop getting into feuds with people who aren't worth watching. I actually think Miz is a solid performer. Solid. Not one who can carry two crappy talents.

Bray Wyatt/Luke Harper vs. Roman Reigns/Dean Ambrose - I was interested in this match, but it ended up being a bust. I don't know what happened. In theory, this is a good match, with compelling storylines... from 2014. Wyatt needs to get a serious win against a real competitor (maybe if/when Bryan returns, he can absolutely destroy him, and force him to retire, that would elevate his stock...) for anyone to care anymore. WWE botched the Wyatts big time. Roman has been making improvements, but I still can't say I like him, and he didn't do a great job of changing that feeling in the match. Love watching Ambrose, but I just don't understand how he really fits here. He's psychotic. Should have turned on Roman Reigns and gone heel. Or maybe Roman should have. I don't know. One of them should have. Stupid match, stupid ending.

John Cena vs Seth Rollins - Loved it. Match of the night, although it wasn't the best Cena/Rollins fight they've ever had. Outside of the f***ing stupid ending (not going to say anything more about it), I want to focus on what good there was. Cena showed he's continually improving, even now (although I wish he'd f***ing drop the Springboard Stunner. It's dangerous and stupid looking), and Rollins proved once and for all that this is for real, that he's a top level competitor and that he's going to be one for a long time. Unfortunately, he came dressed like a sperm, so some things need to change.

PCB vs. Team BAD vs. Team Bella - I came away a little disappointed. This was a great match in theory, and I was super excited to see the Divas Revolution actually improve the state of woman's wrestling. Unfortunately, it was more of the same, with the Divas being relegated to glorified undercard slot. This is one thing UFC and other promotions, real or scripted, do that WWE just doesn't understand. It doesn't matter how long or short the match is, or how talented the divas involved are (Sasha, Charlotte, Paige, Becky Lynch, Naomi, and Nikki Bella -but not Brie). What truly matters is proper build up and story telling during the match. And I came away feeling like they didn't do either of those two things well, nor did they show a fraction of what these girls are capable of in the ring. Maybe it was because they had to get untalented divas (Alicia Fox, Brie Bella, and Tamina) involved, and one of the teams was effectively garbage outside of the "champ". The Divas Revolution still has a chance, but they need to do something, or risk it dying with a whimper.

Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro - Wasn't honestly interested. I get that both are good performers, and athletically, few are better than Cesaro or Owens. But I just didn't understand why this match even had to happen, and it felt like it was just a cool down match for an audience that was already sufficiently cooled down. Rather than do this match, they could have given 10 more minutes to Cena/Rollins or Taker/Lesnar, and improved those matches from good status to great status. It wasn't a bad match. Just an unneeded one.

Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker - Loved it. I won't go too much into how the match itself went, because there's only so many times you can say SUPLEX CITY b**** before it gets to be too much. Loved the chemistry the two had in the ring, and the moment when both Lesnar and Undertaker were laughing in the ring was one of the highlights of the night. And the ending, I f***ing loved. I get why some people hated it. Dusty finishes to end major PPVs tend to do that, especially if it's at Summerslam. But I get that this is just setting up for an even bigger blowoff match at Wrestlemania, which could end up being for Undertaker's career. It's nice to see dusty finishes when they make sense, something people don't see to understand.

Loved the PPV, although it wasn't on par with Summerslam 2013 or anything. Still a top 5 Summerslam for me.
I forgot to post my thoughts about Summerslam, but I may as well do that now.

Randy Orton vs Sheamus - Opening the PPV with one of the matches I wanted to get out of the way early is fantastic. Making it the match that makes the most sense to open? Even better! This opens the door for Sheamus to potentially cash in later in the night... but he won't. Sheamus enters, and man, I frigging can't believe they let him win Money in the Bank. He's one of the LEAST over superstars around, and his new look makes him impossible to take seriously. They may as well repackage him as a member of the Wyatt Family. It would boost his star, and give the Wyatt Family some new blood. Really, why isn't this being done? All told, it wasn't a horrible match. It featured decent spots. The RKO off the Sheamus Slingshot, the double Brogue Kick? Those are moves you save for Summerslam. It's just a shame this feud is older than Randy Orton and his graying beard.

Prime Time Players vs. Lucha Dragons vs. New Day vs. Los Matadores - I was really looking forward to this match, and honestly, it didn't disappoint. The New Day is one of the most entertaining acts in WWE these days, and they are so over with the audience as well. There were some interesting spots, and I never cease to be amazed by Titus O'Neil. If booked properly, he could really go far as a singles competitor. I love Kalisto, too. Similar to Titus O'Neil, I just wish the Tag Team division didn't suck, because he's deserving of singles success. The only team I came away unimpressed with was Los Matadores, but that's not disappointing, because everyone knows they suck. Just be thankful it wasn't the UsNos.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Rusev - Dolph Ziggler is one of my favorite competitors to watch day in and day out, but I really could not care less for this awful feud. Wherein the "face" (Ziggler) is acting like an immature spoiler brat, with a petty b**** (Lana) as his companion, going after the "heels", one of whom presumably misses his "ex-girlfriend" (Rusev) and a bimbo who actually stands up for him (Summer Rae). Faces should have moral high ground over heels. All I can do in story line is feel sorry for Rusev, and wish he could move on to something that would actually elevate his stock in the company. The double count out was just a bulls*** ending that makes it obvious this s***ty feud is continuing.

Stardust/King Barrett vs. Stephen Amell/Neville - I liked the idea of this match in theory. Cody is one of the best performers WWE has, and so few people seem to realize it. He's put on thousands of masks (sometimes literally), and has nailed each character, and gotten the exact reaction he wants out of the WWE Universe. He's one of my favorite competitors, and I actually like the Stardust character. All that said, it's obvious why I wanted this match. It's a chance for Neville (someone I have never been particularly interested in) to face someone on his level (King Barrett), but also showcase his skills against a high level mid carder in Stardust. I didn't figure Amell would do much, but get in the Celebrity Punch of Doom in on Stardust. I came away even happier than I figured I would be, because as it turns out, Amell has skills, to the point I wouldn't be sad to see him get a singles match against Stardust. Obviously, Amell isn't a trained superstar, and was able to hide in a tag match more, so his deficiencies were better hidden. But Cody is talented enough that he can probably carry Amell in the later stages of such a match, and make the whole thing a treat. Came away super impressed with everyone. Great event.

Big Show vs. Ryback vs. The Miz - Not interested. I actually took my piss break during this match and thank god it was over soon after I came back. This should have been a pre-show match, where no one would have seen it. Big Show needs to f***ing retire, Ryback needs to stop trying, and The Miz needs to stop getting into feuds with people who aren't worth watching. I actually think Miz is a solid performer. Solid. Not one who can carry two crappy talents.

Bray Wyatt/Luke Harper vs. Roman Reigns/Dean Ambrose - I was interested in this match, but it ended up being a bust. I don't know what happened. In theory, this is a good match, with compelling storylines... from 2014. Wyatt needs to get a serious win against a real competitor (maybe if/when Bryan returns, he can absolutely destroy him, and force him to retire, that would elevate his stock...) for anyone to care anymore. WWE botched the Wyatts big time. Roman has been making improvements, but I still can't say I like him, and he didn't do a great job of changing that feeling in the match. Love watching Ambrose, but I just don't understand how he really fits here. He's psychotic. Should have turned on Roman Reigns and gone heel. Or maybe Roman should have. I don't know. One of them should have. Stupid match, stupid ending.

John Cena vs Seth Rollins - Loved it. Match of the night, although it wasn't the best Cena/Rollins fight they've ever had. Outside of the f***ing stupid ending (not going to say anything more about it), I want to focus on what good there was. Cena showed he's continually improving, even now (although I wish he'd f***ing drop the Springboard Stunner. It's dangerous and stupid looking), and Rollins proved once and for all that this is for real, that he's a top level competitor and that he's going to be one for a long time. Unfortunately, he came dressed like a sperm, so some things need to change.

PCB vs. Team BAD vs. Team Bella - I came away a little disappointed. This was a great match in theory, and I was super excited to see the Divas Revolution actually improve the state of woman's wrestling. Unfortunately, it was more of the same, with the Divas being relegated to glorified undercard slot. This is one thing UFC and other promotions, real or scripted, do that WWE just doesn't understand. It doesn't matter how long or short the match is, or how talented the divas involved are (Sasha, Charlotte, Paige, Becky Lynch, Naomi, and Nikki Bella -but not Brie). What truly matters is proper build up and story telling during the match. And I came away feeling like they didn't do either of those two things well, nor did they show a fraction of what these girls are capable of in the ring. Maybe it was because they had to get untalented divas (Alicia Fox, Brie Bella, and Tamina) involved, and one of the teams was effectively garbage outside of the "champ". The Divas Revolution still has a chance, but they need to do something, or risk it dying with a whimper.

Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro - Wasn't honestly interested. I get that both are good performers, and athletically, few are better than Cesaro or Owens. But I just didn't understand why this match even had to happen, and it felt like it was just a cool down match for an audience that was already sufficiently cooled down. Rather than do this match, they could have given 10 more minutes to Cena/Rollins or Taker/Lesnar, and improved those matches from good status to great status. It wasn't a bad match. Just an unneeded one.

Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker - Loved it. I won't go too much into how the match itself went, because there's only so many times you can say SUPLEX CITY b**** before it gets to be too much. Loved the chemistry the two had in the ring, and the moment when both Lesnar and Undertaker were laughing in the ring was one of the highlights of the night. And the ending, I f***ing loved. I get why some people hated it. Dusty finishes to end major PPVs tend to do that, especially if it's at Summerslam. But I get that this is just setting up for an even bigger blowoff match at Wrestlemania, which could end up being for Undertaker's career. It's nice to see dusty finishes when they make sense, something people don't see to understand.

Loved the PPV, although it wasn't on par with Summerslam 2013 or anything. Still a top 5 Summerslam for me.
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legacyme3 : it seems like we feel pretty similarly about the night.

I feel like there is a lot of potential in the roster right now and certain rivalries need to change or get a boost somehow to become more interesting.

I really hope that things keep improving. I feel like overall WWE has been improving since Wrestlemania. Not every show is great but it's like things are starting to come together.
legacyme3 : it seems like we feel pretty similarly about the night.

I feel like there is a lot of potential in the roster right now and certain rivalries need to change or get a boost somehow to become more interesting.

I really hope that things keep improving. I feel like overall WWE has been improving since Wrestlemania. Not every show is great but it's like things are starting to come together.
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geeogree :

You have to keep in mind I stopped watching RAW and only see the monthly PPVs. Even that might start to cease, since I see those at my friend's house (who has the Network), and I myself am moving across the country.

I feel like WWE has the most talent it has ever had.

The issue isn't the talent, it's how they are using the talent.
geeogree :

You have to keep in mind I stopped watching RAW and only see the monthly PPVs. Even that might start to cease, since I see those at my friend's house (who has the Network), and I myself am moving across the country.

I feel like WWE has the most talent it has ever had.

The issue isn't the talent, it's how they are using the talent.
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legacyme3 : I disagree only because I watched WWE/F and WCW in the mid to late 90's and they put on a show nearly every week that was good top to bottom. Good wrestling, good story telling and very rarely did the show become stale or boring.

Still, it seems like since NXT the overall product has been getting better. Still has room to grow but I think in the next 3-5 years as guys like Orton and Cena take real steps back and the show is carried by the guys who came through NXT that it is going to get really good again.
legacyme3 : I disagree only because I watched WWE/F and WCW in the mid to late 90's and they put on a show nearly every week that was good top to bottom. Good wrestling, good story telling and very rarely did the show become stale or boring.

Still, it seems like since NXT the overall product has been getting better. Still has room to grow but I think in the next 3-5 years as guys like Orton and Cena take real steps back and the show is carried by the guys who came through NXT that it is going to get really good again.
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I'm of the opinion that those NXT guys, while good, will have a little more trouble "carrying" the show, simply because of who is running things.

In NXT, HHH is given the reigns and has basically complete control over how things are. He's in touch with what the modern day wrestling fan wants.

In WWE, Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Michael Hayes all have more creative control than HHH does. And they don't have any f***ing clue what people want anymore. Ten years ago, sure, twenty years ago, yes.

But in the modern era, WWE is pacified, more because of who is in charge, than who is on the roster.

My hope with NXT isn't that the superstars there come in and carry the load like Cena and Orton. My hope is that the success of NXT, and the relative mehness of WWE causes the heads to rethink what they are doing, and make WWE more conducive to NXT.

Ultimately, the goal being to make WWE a place where people in NXT want to go. If I was an NXT star, I'd want to stay in NXT, because they genuinely know how to run the business now, and give people what they deserve based on talent, not based on who they are or were.
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I'm of the opinion that those NXT guys, while good, will have a little more trouble "carrying" the show, simply because of who is running things.

In NXT, HHH is given the reigns and has basically complete control over how things are. He's in touch with what the modern day wrestling fan wants.

In WWE, Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Michael Hayes all have more creative control than HHH does. And they don't have any f***ing clue what people want anymore. Ten years ago, sure, twenty years ago, yes.

But in the modern era, WWE is pacified, more because of who is in charge, than who is on the roster.

My hope with NXT isn't that the superstars there come in and carry the load like Cena and Orton. My hope is that the success of NXT, and the relative mehness of WWE causes the heads to rethink what they are doing, and make WWE more conducive to NXT.

Ultimately, the goal being to make WWE a place where people in NXT want to go. If I was an NXT star, I'd want to stay in NXT, because they genuinely know how to run the business now, and give people what they deserve based on talent, not based on who they are or were.
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legacyme3 : I completely agree that for WWE to truly become great again it needs someone other than Vince McMahon at the helm. He paved the way for WWE to become what it is today but I agree that he seems to be very out of touch.

I really hope the HHH can take the helm like Vince has but stay behind the scenes. I do think that HHH has been putting his stamp on things slowly with the NXT crop coming up into the main WWE roster. And I think even if Vince stays on that the new talent will make the overall product better with or without Vince doing anything about it. I do worry though that a lot of good stuff might get missed with him there.

WWE had it figured out so well in the late 90's and early 2000's. I'm really not sure where it lost it but I feel like the mojo is starting to come back. I'm definitely excited about what the future holds because of NXT.
legacyme3 : I completely agree that for WWE to truly become great again it needs someone other than Vince McMahon at the helm. He paved the way for WWE to become what it is today but I agree that he seems to be very out of touch.

I really hope the HHH can take the helm like Vince has but stay behind the scenes. I do think that HHH has been putting his stamp on things slowly with the NXT crop coming up into the main WWE roster. And I think even if Vince stays on that the new talent will make the overall product better with or without Vince doing anything about it. I do worry though that a lot of good stuff might get missed with him there.

WWE had it figured out so well in the late 90's and early 2000's. I'm really not sure where it lost it but I feel like the mojo is starting to come back. I'm definitely excited about what the future holds because of NXT.
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We already knew it was happening but I still can't believe Sting is getting a title shot. I like him and all but this just seems strange. Maybe tonight will explain it better but right now I don't see why he deserves it.

I guess we're going to find out right away.... I'm actually okay with that. I want this part sorted out before much else happens tonight. And that didn't explain much.... I love how the talking points of the announcers are exactly the same was what Sting said. Even after listening to Rollins talk this still seems like a stretch of a match. I'm not sad to see Sting but something else should have precipitated this.

Ziggler vs. Rusev - again =/. I enjoy Ziggler nearly every time I see him because he can sell so well. I enjoy Rusev in general too but this rivalry is getting old. They need to do something to shake it up or end it once and for all. Put them in a cage match or something. That would have been a good ending to the match if the girls hadn't gotten involved. These matches only exist so that the girls can fight each other and the crowd can freak out. Not much else to really say about this other than it's getting old. Although.... I think we just saw the thing that is going to change this rivalry. Summer just went into Zigglers locker room.

Ugh... Bella's. Stop talking! As for the match.... not bad. Some of the moves were a little weak but it was still good.

Ryback interview.... gets interrupted by whatever was happening with Summer and Ziggler.

Big Show vs. Ryback - I was going to start complaining that this match was boring and that I really hated this rivalry but it just started slow. It's been getting better and better as it goes on. And I'm impressed that Ryback picked up Big Show. That can't be easy. Still a quality match in spite of Miz getting involved.

Brie Bella vs Charlotte - the strategy so far makes sense. Brie just running away and wasting time. And that ended quickly.... That was so sudden. Not much to really talk about.

Cesaro vs Kevin Owens - I was going to type during this match but I just watched it and enjoyed. Quality match even if I don't see a point in them fighting. They put on good matches.

Dolph/Lana time - really.... is that even really worth the drama? Seems silly to me.

Braun Strowman vs. Dean Ambrose - I expect so little from this match that it should easily exceed my expectations. Another match that isn't really worth talking too much about. Ambrose can't win, Reigns gets involved and then Strowman detroys them. I think the only thing they can do is bring in someone from Ambrose and Reigns or these guys are going to get ruined quickly. This guy is so over-powered right now that they need someone else to even things out.

Page vs. Sasha - so, the match will basically last a minute and a half.... can't really have any other result other than that. This sort of ruings this match for me. That's what I hate about the beat the clock idea. I like what the teammates did of Sasha did in this situation.... not sure that it really mattered since Sasha doesn't get anything for winning but I guess they want Charlotte to go for the title. Oh, now I understand. Nikki Bella still has the title to remove AJ Lee from being the longest reigning Diva's champion. She'll lose the title at the PPV once that is done. Makes sense now.

Oh the drama of the women.

New Day vs. Dudley's - I love the Dudley's and all but they haven't changed at all. 10 years later and they are doing basically the exact same stuff they were doing before. Not that it doesn't work but you kind of wish they could have a couple new moves. Oh well, at least this is something about the Tag Team Division to talk about. I wasn't really interested in what was going on before this.

Rollins - calling out Sting. Rollins needs to get over himself. He's good but he's not that good. Win a match cleanly for once . And now Stephanie is coming out. This should be interesting. And now Cena shows up. Okay, I see where this is going. Cena and Rollins at Night of Champions for the US title and Sting vs Rollins for the Heavyweight Title. Here is a great chance for Rollins to prove himself. Beat either guy cleanly and you'll gain respect. That's just my point of view on it.

Still, another good RAW this week. I'm happy about the consistency that I'm starting to see.
We already knew it was happening but I still can't believe Sting is getting a title shot. I like him and all but this just seems strange. Maybe tonight will explain it better but right now I don't see why he deserves it.

I guess we're going to find out right away.... I'm actually okay with that. I want this part sorted out before much else happens tonight. And that didn't explain much.... I love how the talking points of the announcers are exactly the same was what Sting said. Even after listening to Rollins talk this still seems like a stretch of a match. I'm not sad to see Sting but something else should have precipitated this.

Ziggler vs. Rusev - again =/. I enjoy Ziggler nearly every time I see him because he can sell so well. I enjoy Rusev in general too but this rivalry is getting old. They need to do something to shake it up or end it once and for all. Put them in a cage match or something. That would have been a good ending to the match if the girls hadn't gotten involved. These matches only exist so that the girls can fight each other and the crowd can freak out. Not much else to really say about this other than it's getting old. Although.... I think we just saw the thing that is going to change this rivalry. Summer just went into Zigglers locker room.

Ugh... Bella's. Stop talking! As for the match.... not bad. Some of the moves were a little weak but it was still good.

Ryback interview.... gets interrupted by whatever was happening with Summer and Ziggler.

Big Show vs. Ryback - I was going to start complaining that this match was boring and that I really hated this rivalry but it just started slow. It's been getting better and better as it goes on. And I'm impressed that Ryback picked up Big Show. That can't be easy. Still a quality match in spite of Miz getting involved.

Brie Bella vs Charlotte - the strategy so far makes sense. Brie just running away and wasting time. And that ended quickly.... That was so sudden. Not much to really talk about.

Cesaro vs Kevin Owens - I was going to type during this match but I just watched it and enjoyed. Quality match even if I don't see a point in them fighting. They put on good matches.

Dolph/Lana time - really.... is that even really worth the drama? Seems silly to me.

Braun Strowman vs. Dean Ambrose - I expect so little from this match that it should easily exceed my expectations. Another match that isn't really worth talking too much about. Ambrose can't win, Reigns gets involved and then Strowman detroys them. I think the only thing they can do is bring in someone from Ambrose and Reigns or these guys are going to get ruined quickly. This guy is so over-powered right now that they need someone else to even things out.

Page vs. Sasha - so, the match will basically last a minute and a half.... can't really have any other result other than that. This sort of ruings this match for me. That's what I hate about the beat the clock idea. I like what the teammates did of Sasha did in this situation.... not sure that it really mattered since Sasha doesn't get anything for winning but I guess they want Charlotte to go for the title. Oh, now I understand. Nikki Bella still has the title to remove AJ Lee from being the longest reigning Diva's champion. She'll lose the title at the PPV once that is done. Makes sense now.

Oh the drama of the women.

New Day vs. Dudley's - I love the Dudley's and all but they haven't changed at all. 10 years later and they are doing basically the exact same stuff they were doing before. Not that it doesn't work but you kind of wish they could have a couple new moves. Oh well, at least this is something about the Tag Team Division to talk about. I wasn't really interested in what was going on before this.

Rollins - calling out Sting. Rollins needs to get over himself. He's good but he's not that good. Win a match cleanly for once . And now Stephanie is coming out. This should be interesting. And now Cena shows up. Okay, I see where this is going. Cena and Rollins at Night of Champions for the US title and Sting vs Rollins for the Heavyweight Title. Here is a great chance for Rollins to prove himself. Beat either guy cleanly and you'll gain respect. That's just my point of view on it.

Still, another good RAW this week. I'm happy about the consistency that I'm starting to see.
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Raw - Sep 7th

Starting the night off with Rollins - hopefully he doesn't talk about how amazing he is for too long. I am getting tired of this talk of a heavyweight champion and US champion at the same time. I expect that has happened either in WCW or NWA. Ouch, a "boring" chant. They're not wrong. This monologue has told us nothing new. I get really tired of listening to 10 minutes of NOTHING new. You can't have someone stand in the ring and rehash last weeks stuff without adding anything. It gets boring. Oooooh, Sting on the video screen. At least they're letting him be funny. Funny Sting is awesome. And now Sheamus. Some more jokes but in the end nothing new. I actually don't like when the MITB holder tells the champ he might cash in. I prefer when their music just hits and they run out.... oh well.

Paige vs. Sasha - I don't care much about how the match happened but this is making up for the lack of any sort of match from last week. This match is definitely solid. Glad to see the Diva's putting together matches like these. These matches are actually worth watching.

Reigns/Ambrose vs The Ascension - finally a different opponent for these guys. I was getting tired of seeing them fight the Wyatts absolutely every week. I do think it is telling that the single's careers for Reigns and Ambrose have taken a break and they are a tag team again. Wasn't much of a match but it was a nice break.

Rollins vs Ryback - I don't think this has happened before. Interested to see how it plays out. Match was pretty good. Was about what I expected. Rollins getting beaten on a LOT for this match. He excels at taking punishment. He's a lot like Cena that way. You can pound on him over and over and then he pulls something out and still manages to win. Unfortunately for Rollins he gets distracted by Sting and loses the match. Still, the match was good and the mind games are entertaining. And then more funny stuff from Sting. This is honestly the way sting is the best. When he is making jokes and taunting his opponents.

Hahahahaha, New Day. These guys are funny. OH! Edge and Chrstian! So awesome I miss those guys. They were entertainment every week. Dudley Boyz! I don't even know what to say. That was so awesome. I really wish Edge and Christian could both come back

Uh oh, Summer Rae. This story line needs to wrap up and soon. This whole cheating thing is lame.

Orton vs Sheamus - again? Didn't I complain about this last week when they had a match. I don't get why these 2 guys are still fighting.... it makes no sense. The matches are fine but I don't understand what the point is anymore. They have matches several times every month but I don't see what they amount to. If somehow it would mean that Orton could get the MITB breifcase then I could understand this but the way it stands it's just a filler match that is consistently good enough.

And here are the Wyatts - I guess we know who the third member of the tag match is going to be. Again I ask why? What has Orton ever had to do with the Wyatts? I guess they couldn't find anyone better in time? Unless this is supposed to be taking Orton out before he could join with Reigns and Ambrose? I guess we'll see.

Los Matadores vs Dudley Boyz - uh.... was that a match? Seemed like a total waste of time except to get the Dudleys into the title match at Night of Champions. Oh, now I know - it's so they can throw someone through a table. Can't complain about that too much.

Miz vs. Cesaro - I was worried when Miz came out but this match has actually been really good. Miz is dirty and that's about the only way he would beat Cesaro. And he comes Big Show.... I guess the match is over. That was actually a pretty good match until Big Show showed up.

6-Man Tag Match - not much to say about this match. Went basically as expected. Cena gets beat up, Cena's team manages to come back and win. Not really a surprise here. Just interested to see what is coming up for Rollins. There is still some time left over. I knew it would be Sting. I was not expecting the statue to get destroyed though. That was pretty awesome

For the 3rd week in a row I am overall happy with Raw. This might be a record. It's been a while that I've enjoyed the majority of the show that many weeks in a row.
Raw - Sep 7th

Starting the night off with Rollins - hopefully he doesn't talk about how amazing he is for too long. I am getting tired of this talk of a heavyweight champion and US champion at the same time. I expect that has happened either in WCW or NWA. Ouch, a "boring" chant. They're not wrong. This monologue has told us nothing new. I get really tired of listening to 10 minutes of NOTHING new. You can't have someone stand in the ring and rehash last weeks stuff without adding anything. It gets boring. Oooooh, Sting on the video screen. At least they're letting him be funny. Funny Sting is awesome. And now Sheamus. Some more jokes but in the end nothing new. I actually don't like when the MITB holder tells the champ he might cash in. I prefer when their music just hits and they run out.... oh well.

Paige vs. Sasha - I don't care much about how the match happened but this is making up for the lack of any sort of match from last week. This match is definitely solid. Glad to see the Diva's putting together matches like these. These matches are actually worth watching.

Reigns/Ambrose vs The Ascension - finally a different opponent for these guys. I was getting tired of seeing them fight the Wyatts absolutely every week. I do think it is telling that the single's careers for Reigns and Ambrose have taken a break and they are a tag team again. Wasn't much of a match but it was a nice break.

Rollins vs Ryback - I don't think this has happened before. Interested to see how it plays out. Match was pretty good. Was about what I expected. Rollins getting beaten on a LOT for this match. He excels at taking punishment. He's a lot like Cena that way. You can pound on him over and over and then he pulls something out and still manages to win. Unfortunately for Rollins he gets distracted by Sting and loses the match. Still, the match was good and the mind games are entertaining. And then more funny stuff from Sting. This is honestly the way sting is the best. When he is making jokes and taunting his opponents.

Hahahahaha, New Day. These guys are funny. OH! Edge and Chrstian! So awesome I miss those guys. They were entertainment every week. Dudley Boyz! I don't even know what to say. That was so awesome. I really wish Edge and Christian could both come back

Uh oh, Summer Rae. This story line needs to wrap up and soon. This whole cheating thing is lame.

Orton vs Sheamus - again? Didn't I complain about this last week when they had a match. I don't get why these 2 guys are still fighting.... it makes no sense. The matches are fine but I don't understand what the point is anymore. They have matches several times every month but I don't see what they amount to. If somehow it would mean that Orton could get the MITB breifcase then I could understand this but the way it stands it's just a filler match that is consistently good enough.

And here are the Wyatts - I guess we know who the third member of the tag match is going to be. Again I ask why? What has Orton ever had to do with the Wyatts? I guess they couldn't find anyone better in time? Unless this is supposed to be taking Orton out before he could join with Reigns and Ambrose? I guess we'll see.

Los Matadores vs Dudley Boyz - uh.... was that a match? Seemed like a total waste of time except to get the Dudleys into the title match at Night of Champions. Oh, now I know - it's so they can throw someone through a table. Can't complain about that too much.

Miz vs. Cesaro - I was worried when Miz came out but this match has actually been really good. Miz is dirty and that's about the only way he would beat Cesaro. And he comes Big Show.... I guess the match is over. That was actually a pretty good match until Big Show showed up.

6-Man Tag Match - not much to say about this match. Went basically as expected. Cena gets beat up, Cena's team manages to come back and win. Not really a surprise here. Just interested to see what is coming up for Rollins. There is still some time left over. I knew it would be Sting. I was not expecting the statue to get destroyed though. That was pretty awesome

For the 3rd week in a row I am overall happy with Raw. This might be a record. It's been a while that I've enjoyed the majority of the show that many weeks in a row.
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Raw - Sep 14th

And let's just skip over what happened last week and get to the current show!

And Triple H is starting the show. Oh, and Stephanie McMahon.... she doesn't need to be in the ring. Raw has seasons? Season premier? Yeah yeah.... Seth Rollins is amazing. He's going to be a legend forever blah blah blah! Oh yeah, the Diva's champion about to break the record as longest reigning.... I won't be shocked if that happens. Got to get rid of AJ Lee and CM Punk as quickly as possible. I got chills when Triple H announced that Sting was going to wrestle on Raw. He may be old but that is something I didn't think would ever happen. Even with him being back I expected only PPV matches. And putting him against the Big Show is not a surprise. They know each other from WCW. That might actually be a good match.

Primetime Players vs. New Day - title match to start the show? Aren't New Day defending against the Dudley Boyz in a week at the PPV? So, no title change.... not much point in this match. Yup... called it. The match wasn't bad at all but the outcome was predictable based on the upcoming PPV. I hate when they do this. I want to be guessing about who will win the title. Even if I have a feeling that someone is going to win I still want to be surprised. I wasn't surprised for this match.

A bunch of stuff happened that I didn't care about until Ric Flair was in an interview and then I was interested again. That guy can cut a promo for anything. He could get me excited about buttering bread

Paige vs. Sasha Banks - pretty good match so far. They got into it right away. No waiting around doing little holds and what not to get started. The pace has slowed a bit now but I like how Sasha is working this match. I always like when people push the count as close to 5 as they can before releasing the hold they have. Getting the most out of it. Sasha is doing a good job of this. Whoa.... that suplex was deadly. I think she landed on her shoulders enough to not be too injured but that could have been really dangerous. And cheating to win. Well done on that match. I really enjoyed it even though it was a Diva's match.

Miz + Wyatt's - not sure what is going to go on here but I'm curious. Oh, it's just a way to get everyone in the ring at the same time. That's all. The interview wasn't all that interesting. At least we'll likely get to see the third member of the team now. Or not.... That was a bit disappointing. I guess whoever they are picking wasn't available tonight.

Cena vs Sheamus - Not sure how I feel about this match. At least they are fighting someone new instead of the same guy for the 5th time in a row. I didn't have much to say until that suplex that turned into a body slam/power bomb sort of move. That looked pretty cool. Finally a SMART submission move. He was close to the ropes so Cena moved him back. However, the finish wasn't as good as that. How do you get up from that last move by Sheamus after everything else? I guess you're just SuperCena and don't have to sell when it's time to end the match.

Ryback/Owens interview - that was a boring interview but I am interested in the match. I think they could put on a good match. Owens won't look weak against Ryback which is good. Won't be great but it could be the start of a good rivalry. Ryback needed something to freshen up his title reign and Owens might do that.

Stardust + Ascesion vs Neville + Lucha Dragons - I feel like I've missed something cause this seems totally out of left field for me. And.... was this a match or what? What is going on? That made absolutely no sense!

Charlotte vs Nikki Bella - I'm very interested in this. The build-up makes it feel like Carlotte is going to win the title but at the same time I see WWE wanting to have someone overtake AJ Lee as longest reigning Diva's champ so they don't have to talk about her anymore. They could easily have Charlotte lose tonight but win at the PPV in a rematch. Still, I could see this going either way. It would be hilarious if AJ Lee came back in order to screw over Nikki. That would make my day. That won't happen obviously but still

As for the match - Charlotte is starting out strong with some cool unique moves. And of course Nikki takes over. Really well done targeting the arm so far. Some good moves so far. Whoa! I'm honestly shocked that Charlotte won. Even after they tried to do the switch. And here comes the screw job. And they've done it. AJ Lee is gone and now they have their reason for the match at Night of Champions. I shouldn't be surprised but I was still hopeful.

Rusev vs. Cesaro - the match itself was pretty good but I'm curious about what the little gift is about. And the super kick after the win was awesome. I want to know what is in the gift.... and it looks like an actual present. That's strange.

Big Show vs. Sting - I'm interested to see what they do here. Does Sting get some old WCW backup or what? Or does Big Show defect? So far this match is pretty good. Sting doesn't look half bad so far. And here comes Seth Rollins. Oh, John Cena will show up. No one new is coming. I should have remembered that. And now it's a tag team match. There is still a chance of something happening then. I can hope! Awwww, I guess it's just a "yay for the challengers" night. Still, Sting looked pretty good tonight. Hopefully with the double match format he won't have to wrestle as long against Rollins and it won't be a bad match.

Overall again I'm happy with how Raw was. Wasn't jumping out of my chair good but I enjoyed watching it and skipped very little of what happened. Looking forward to the PPV this weekend

Also, to anyone who used to watch but got bored or tired of how things were going I would recommend coming back and checking it out again. Raw has gotten a lot better in 2015 than it was in 2014.
Raw - Sep 14th

And let's just skip over what happened last week and get to the current show!

And Triple H is starting the show. Oh, and Stephanie McMahon.... she doesn't need to be in the ring. Raw has seasons? Season premier? Yeah yeah.... Seth Rollins is amazing. He's going to be a legend forever blah blah blah! Oh yeah, the Diva's champion about to break the record as longest reigning.... I won't be shocked if that happens. Got to get rid of AJ Lee and CM Punk as quickly as possible. I got chills when Triple H announced that Sting was going to wrestle on Raw. He may be old but that is something I didn't think would ever happen. Even with him being back I expected only PPV matches. And putting him against the Big Show is not a surprise. They know each other from WCW. That might actually be a good match.

Primetime Players vs. New Day - title match to start the show? Aren't New Day defending against the Dudley Boyz in a week at the PPV? So, no title change.... not much point in this match. Yup... called it. The match wasn't bad at all but the outcome was predictable based on the upcoming PPV. I hate when they do this. I want to be guessing about who will win the title. Even if I have a feeling that someone is going to win I still want to be surprised. I wasn't surprised for this match.

A bunch of stuff happened that I didn't care about until Ric Flair was in an interview and then I was interested again. That guy can cut a promo for anything. He could get me excited about buttering bread

Paige vs. Sasha Banks - pretty good match so far. They got into it right away. No waiting around doing little holds and what not to get started. The pace has slowed a bit now but I like how Sasha is working this match. I always like when people push the count as close to 5 as they can before releasing the hold they have. Getting the most out of it. Sasha is doing a good job of this. Whoa.... that suplex was deadly. I think she landed on her shoulders enough to not be too injured but that could have been really dangerous. And cheating to win. Well done on that match. I really enjoyed it even though it was a Diva's match.

Miz + Wyatt's - not sure what is going to go on here but I'm curious. Oh, it's just a way to get everyone in the ring at the same time. That's all. The interview wasn't all that interesting. At least we'll likely get to see the third member of the team now. Or not.... That was a bit disappointing. I guess whoever they are picking wasn't available tonight.

Cena vs Sheamus - Not sure how I feel about this match. At least they are fighting someone new instead of the same guy for the 5th time in a row. I didn't have much to say until that suplex that turned into a body slam/power bomb sort of move. That looked pretty cool. Finally a SMART submission move. He was close to the ropes so Cena moved him back. However, the finish wasn't as good as that. How do you get up from that last move by Sheamus after everything else? I guess you're just SuperCena and don't have to sell when it's time to end the match.

Ryback/Owens interview - that was a boring interview but I am interested in the match. I think they could put on a good match. Owens won't look weak against Ryback which is good. Won't be great but it could be the start of a good rivalry. Ryback needed something to freshen up his title reign and Owens might do that.

Stardust + Ascesion vs Neville + Lucha Dragons - I feel like I've missed something cause this seems totally out of left field for me. And.... was this a match or what? What is going on? That made absolutely no sense!

Charlotte vs Nikki Bella - I'm very interested in this. The build-up makes it feel like Carlotte is going to win the title but at the same time I see WWE wanting to have someone overtake AJ Lee as longest reigning Diva's champ so they don't have to talk about her anymore. They could easily have Charlotte lose tonight but win at the PPV in a rematch. Still, I could see this going either way. It would be hilarious if AJ Lee came back in order to screw over Nikki. That would make my day. That won't happen obviously but still

As for the match - Charlotte is starting out strong with some cool unique moves. And of course Nikki takes over. Really well done targeting the arm so far. Some good moves so far. Whoa! I'm honestly shocked that Charlotte won. Even after they tried to do the switch. And here comes the screw job. And they've done it. AJ Lee is gone and now they have their reason for the match at Night of Champions. I shouldn't be surprised but I was still hopeful.

Rusev vs. Cesaro - the match itself was pretty good but I'm curious about what the little gift is about. And the super kick after the win was awesome. I want to know what is in the gift.... and it looks like an actual present. That's strange.

Big Show vs. Sting - I'm interested to see what they do here. Does Sting get some old WCW backup or what? Or does Big Show defect? So far this match is pretty good. Sting doesn't look half bad so far. And here comes Seth Rollins. Oh, John Cena will show up. No one new is coming. I should have remembered that. And now it's a tag team match. There is still a chance of something happening then. I can hope! Awwww, I guess it's just a "yay for the challengers" night. Still, Sting looked pretty good tonight. Hopefully with the double match format he won't have to wrestle as long against Rollins and it won't be a bad match.

Overall again I'm happy with how Raw was. Wasn't jumping out of my chair good but I enjoyed watching it and skipped very little of what happened. Looking forward to the PPV this weekend

Also, to anyone who used to watch but got bored or tired of how things were going I would recommend coming back and checking it out again. Raw has gotten a lot better in 2015 than it was in 2014.
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Night of Champions

Super excited about this PPV. It's been a while since I've been excited about a PPV that wasn't one of the big 4.

Ryback vs Kevin Owens - I am actually hoping this becomes a rivalry. These 2 guys can put on a good match together I think and Kevin Owens makes this interesting. Either guy can use power on the other. Keeps things unpredictable. That match was really good. Well fought by Owens targeting the shoulder and I like the cheat to win. Owens is going to make the intercontinental title interesting. He's not unbeatable but beating him is going to be tough. Glad to see the potential rivalry here.

Ziggler vs Rusev - I hope this is the last match of this rivalry. The matches are good but the story is becoming ridiculous. Another good match here. Not sure how this plays out storyline wise because Summer screwed Rusev over and cost him the match.... Still glad Ziggler won the match. I really hope this is the last of this rivalry though. This has run its course. Also, just want to point this out - there was no title on the line in this match. I guess not every match has to be a title match but every title has to be defended. Whatever.

New Day vs. Dudley Boyz - I'm torn on this one. I hope Dudley Boyz win but I also hope that New Day keeps the titles. I'm actually kind of happy about this result. I didn't want the Dudley Boyz to win right away. Make them work for it a bit more before letting them have another title run. They can still put on a good match but I'm glad they didn't get the titles right away.

Charlotte vs Nikki Bella - I just want Charlotte to win. Really want Nikki Bella to lose the title. Tired of her being the champ. I'm glad Charlotte won but that finish was too fast. Nikki should have gotten out of it once before finally tapping out. Oh well. Still glad to see Charlotte win. Now it's time for Paige to turn on her.

Wyatts 2.0 vs Shield 2.0 - I'm not sure how I feel about Chris Jericho being the tag partner. I don't really see him as actually matching up power wise with the Wyatt's. This has kind of taken me out of the match. And in the end he costs them the match. I wonder if this will go anywhere. Maybe Jericho and Ambrose will have something after this. That might be interesting. Those 2 would match up well.

Cena vs Rollins - I'm actually surprised it took this long for the US title match. I figured that one would have been really early to give Rollins a chance to rest before the Heavyweight match. Wow that was a good match. Not that I'm surprised at all but it was nice to see that good of a match in spite of having Rollins in yet another match. And I'm glad Cena has the title back. His open challange for that title has been amazing.

Rollins vs Sting - I didn't type at all during this match and now there is so much to catch up on. No win for Sting which I'm okay with. Great match put together all things considered but I'm glad he didn't win. Then Sheamus runs in and almost cashes in. And now the masked Kane is back and he attacks Rollins. No cash-in and masked Kane is back! I really missed masked Kane. Interesting to see what is going to happen on Raw on Monday.
Night of Champions

Super excited about this PPV. It's been a while since I've been excited about a PPV that wasn't one of the big 4.

Ryback vs Kevin Owens - I am actually hoping this becomes a rivalry. These 2 guys can put on a good match together I think and Kevin Owens makes this interesting. Either guy can use power on the other. Keeps things unpredictable. That match was really good. Well fought by Owens targeting the shoulder and I like the cheat to win. Owens is going to make the intercontinental title interesting. He's not unbeatable but beating him is going to be tough. Glad to see the potential rivalry here.

Ziggler vs Rusev - I hope this is the last match of this rivalry. The matches are good but the story is becoming ridiculous. Another good match here. Not sure how this plays out storyline wise because Summer screwed Rusev over and cost him the match.... Still glad Ziggler won the match. I really hope this is the last of this rivalry though. This has run its course. Also, just want to point this out - there was no title on the line in this match. I guess not every match has to be a title match but every title has to be defended. Whatever.

New Day vs. Dudley Boyz - I'm torn on this one. I hope Dudley Boyz win but I also hope that New Day keeps the titles. I'm actually kind of happy about this result. I didn't want the Dudley Boyz to win right away. Make them work for it a bit more before letting them have another title run. They can still put on a good match but I'm glad they didn't get the titles right away.

Charlotte vs Nikki Bella - I just want Charlotte to win. Really want Nikki Bella to lose the title. Tired of her being the champ. I'm glad Charlotte won but that finish was too fast. Nikki should have gotten out of it once before finally tapping out. Oh well. Still glad to see Charlotte win. Now it's time for Paige to turn on her.

Wyatts 2.0 vs Shield 2.0 - I'm not sure how I feel about Chris Jericho being the tag partner. I don't really see him as actually matching up power wise with the Wyatt's. This has kind of taken me out of the match. And in the end he costs them the match. I wonder if this will go anywhere. Maybe Jericho and Ambrose will have something after this. That might be interesting. Those 2 would match up well.

Cena vs Rollins - I'm actually surprised it took this long for the US title match. I figured that one would have been really early to give Rollins a chance to rest before the Heavyweight match. Wow that was a good match. Not that I'm surprised at all but it was nice to see that good of a match in spite of having Rollins in yet another match. And I'm glad Cena has the title back. His open challange for that title has been amazing.

Rollins vs Sting - I didn't type at all during this match and now there is so much to catch up on. No win for Sting which I'm okay with. Great match put together all things considered but I'm glad he didn't win. Then Sheamus runs in and almost cashes in. And now the masked Kane is back and he attacks Rollins. No cash-in and masked Kane is back! I really missed masked Kane. Interesting to see what is going to happen on Raw on Monday.
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Raw - Sep 21st

Interesting. Starting with the Wyatt's. Hopefully they don't let him talk too much. Sometimes Bray Wyatt goes on for way too long. And here comes Roman Reigns. He's got to have a plan cause this is just dumb . Really? Just a 1 on 1 challange. Something is going to happen before this goes too much longer and then a real match will be made. And here comes Dean Ambrose. Maybe he'll get beat up and then a real third member to the group can show up and help. Maybe. Please. Someone? Anyone? A diva? Randy Orton.... okay. Could be worse I guess. 6 man tag match coming up! Maybe later in the night but it'll happen. Still, more interesting than Rollins or HHH talking for 15 minutes to start the show.

Night of Champions recap.

That was weird... what is with Kane? What in the world are they thinking? Are they actually going to try to have a storyline where Kane doesn't realize he is wearing his mask sometimes? That's just lame. Oh well.

Astral Alliance??? vs Neville and Lucha Dragons - wow. Sin Cara botched something again? They need to get rid of that guy. He is dangerous in the ring.

As for the match - I don't care about any of this. Well, Neville is awesome and Stardust is entertaining but the 2 tag teams are garbage. Okay, Kalisto is pretty good too.

Ryback vs. Bo Dallas - Oooh, and a visit from Kevin Owens. The match was kind of boring and predictable and the run in from Owens wasn't really unique either. Still, I like Ryback vs Owens as a rivalry.

Diva's Championship Celebration - okay, I totally get chills everytime Ric Flair's "Woo" happens and then his music starts playing. So classic. As for the "celebration" it was kind of boring. Paige telling it like it is. Wow! It's like listening to AJ Lee or CM Punk give a promo. Amazing! I know that that was probably supposed to be a heel turn but when you are getting cheered it doesn't really work that way.

Brie vs. Charlotte - meh. It was basically last nights match but with Brie instead of Nikki. Basically the same ending too. Not all that interesting.

Sheamus vs Mark Henry - wow, this was kind of a pointless match. Made Sheamus look tough I guess. Mark Henry is basically just a jobber at this point now.

New Day + Rusev vs Dudley Boys + Ziggler - another kind of pointless match. It was a good match but didn't really accomplish much. Still better than watching each rivalry on its own. I liked the spot where Ziggler got to do the "What's up?" headbutt on Rusev.

Naomi vs Natalia - my mood must have changed during this show because I didn't care about this match either.

Big Show vs Cesaro - another match that I don't care about and doesn't make sense. Why are they in a match together? Does it benefit either one? The suplex was impressive I'll give you that...

Cena vs Rollins - these 2 guys just have great matches together. I don't think they've had a bad match together ever. And Kane coming up through the ring.... strange. At least Rollins put up a good fight. Still pretty cheesy if you ask me.
Raw - Sep 21st

Interesting. Starting with the Wyatt's. Hopefully they don't let him talk too much. Sometimes Bray Wyatt goes on for way too long. And here comes Roman Reigns. He's got to have a plan cause this is just dumb . Really? Just a 1 on 1 challange. Something is going to happen before this goes too much longer and then a real match will be made. And here comes Dean Ambrose. Maybe he'll get beat up and then a real third member to the group can show up and help. Maybe. Please. Someone? Anyone? A diva? Randy Orton.... okay. Could be worse I guess. 6 man tag match coming up! Maybe later in the night but it'll happen. Still, more interesting than Rollins or HHH talking for 15 minutes to start the show.

Night of Champions recap.

That was weird... what is with Kane? What in the world are they thinking? Are they actually going to try to have a storyline where Kane doesn't realize he is wearing his mask sometimes? That's just lame. Oh well.

Astral Alliance??? vs Neville and Lucha Dragons - wow. Sin Cara botched something again? They need to get rid of that guy. He is dangerous in the ring.

As for the match - I don't care about any of this. Well, Neville is awesome and Stardust is entertaining but the 2 tag teams are garbage. Okay, Kalisto is pretty good too.

Ryback vs. Bo Dallas - Oooh, and a visit from Kevin Owens. The match was kind of boring and predictable and the run in from Owens wasn't really unique either. Still, I like Ryback vs Owens as a rivalry.

Diva's Championship Celebration - okay, I totally get chills everytime Ric Flair's "Woo" happens and then his music starts playing. So classic. As for the "celebration" it was kind of boring. Paige telling it like it is. Wow! It's like listening to AJ Lee or CM Punk give a promo. Amazing! I know that that was probably supposed to be a heel turn but when you are getting cheered it doesn't really work that way.

Brie vs. Charlotte - meh. It was basically last nights match but with Brie instead of Nikki. Basically the same ending too. Not all that interesting.

Sheamus vs Mark Henry - wow, this was kind of a pointless match. Made Sheamus look tough I guess. Mark Henry is basically just a jobber at this point now.

New Day + Rusev vs Dudley Boys + Ziggler - another kind of pointless match. It was a good match but didn't really accomplish much. Still better than watching each rivalry on its own. I liked the spot where Ziggler got to do the "What's up?" headbutt on Rusev.

Naomi vs Natalia - my mood must have changed during this show because I didn't care about this match either.

Big Show vs Cesaro - another match that I don't care about and doesn't make sense. Why are they in a match together? Does it benefit either one? The suplex was impressive I'll give you that...

Cena vs Rollins - these 2 guys just have great matches together. I don't think they've had a bad match together ever. And Kane coming up through the ring.... strange. At least Rollins put up a good fight. Still pretty cheesy if you ask me.
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Raw Sep 28th

Starting the show with Cena. It's been a while. And sounds like the US open challenge is starting up again. So, it's Xavier Woods who is going to fight Cena. Hard to tell when New Day comes out

Cena vs Xavier Woods - I really hope this doesn't end in a DQ. That would be really lame. Do refs get trained on how to do that swirly hand "you're out of here" thing? Cause they all do it basically the same way. At least we get a one on one match now. Or not.... That match was pretty good. No need for that. OH... that's why. They needed a reason for the Dudley's to come out. That makes sense I guess.

Of course - Now it's a 6 man tag match. I can't believe I didn't see that coming. And the New Day won that one. Not a bad match at all.

Mark Henry vs Big Show - why why why why why? I don't understand! Such a waste of time here. If this lasts 2 minutes I'll be shocked. "Knock-out punch" better end this quickly so we don't have to watch it for much longer. Or, yell at the crowd for no good reason. [sigh]. Just end it already!

Miz TV - bleh. And Paige gets the cheer. Wow! Paige calling it like it is. She is on fire.

And now it's another 6-Woman tag match. And the crows is silent. Just waiting for Paige to enter the match for the cheer that will get. Or she is going to leave the match. Definitely trying to make her a heel with this.

Prime Time Players vs Wyatts - and the only point of this match was to make the Wyatt's look really tough. Bring back Eric Rowan to the group when he is healthy and make the group even deadlier. Then give them titles. It's been a while since a faction has held a lot of titles at one time. I'd like to see it again.

Stardust vs Neville - this match should be good. Stardust and Neville are both great in the ring. And now Barrett is back. They need to stop calling him King Barrett. That's getting old.

Ugh, this Kane storyline is getting old. I haven't found him interesting for a while. It's unfortunate because he could be really good.

Kevin Owens vs Rusev - pointless match. Probably going to turn into a triple threat for the title at some point. Or 4 way with Ziggler since he just showed up.

Reigns vs Bray Wyatt - this match wasn't all that great. It had a few moments but for the most part it felt like a basic 1 on 1 match wasn't enough.
Raw Sep 28th

Starting the show with Cena. It's been a while. And sounds like the US open challenge is starting up again. So, it's Xavier Woods who is going to fight Cena. Hard to tell when New Day comes out

Cena vs Xavier Woods - I really hope this doesn't end in a DQ. That would be really lame. Do refs get trained on how to do that swirly hand "you're out of here" thing? Cause they all do it basically the same way. At least we get a one on one match now. Or not.... That match was pretty good. No need for that. OH... that's why. They needed a reason for the Dudley's to come out. That makes sense I guess.

Of course - Now it's a 6 man tag match. I can't believe I didn't see that coming. And the New Day won that one. Not a bad match at all.

Mark Henry vs Big Show - why why why why why? I don't understand! Such a waste of time here. If this lasts 2 minutes I'll be shocked. "Knock-out punch" better end this quickly so we don't have to watch it for much longer. Or, yell at the crowd for no good reason. [sigh]. Just end it already!

Miz TV - bleh. And Paige gets the cheer. Wow! Paige calling it like it is. She is on fire.

And now it's another 6-Woman tag match. And the crows is silent. Just waiting for Paige to enter the match for the cheer that will get. Or she is going to leave the match. Definitely trying to make her a heel with this.

Prime Time Players vs Wyatts - and the only point of this match was to make the Wyatt's look really tough. Bring back Eric Rowan to the group when he is healthy and make the group even deadlier. Then give them titles. It's been a while since a faction has held a lot of titles at one time. I'd like to see it again.

Stardust vs Neville - this match should be good. Stardust and Neville are both great in the ring. And now Barrett is back. They need to stop calling him King Barrett. That's getting old.

Ugh, this Kane storyline is getting old. I haven't found him interesting for a while. It's unfortunate because he could be really good.

Kevin Owens vs Rusev - pointless match. Probably going to turn into a triple threat for the title at some point. Or 4 way with Ziggler since he just showed up.

Reigns vs Bray Wyatt - this match wasn't all that great. It had a few moments but for the most part it felt like a basic 1 on 1 match wasn't enough.
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Raw - Oct 5th

Nice! Brock Lesnar starting the show! Here comes the pain! (I guess they don't say that anymore). And I love having Paul Heyman on the mic. Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker in Hell in a Cell is going to be insane. I wonder if they are going to let Undertaker get even with Brock or if this is going to be the end of Undertaker in WWE. I can't really see too many more matches for the Undertaker at this point. So it sounds like they are really trying to bill this as the final fight for them. I hope so. I like their matches but the time is up for this rivalry. And here comes the Big Show. Not sure why he's coming out here. He got beat up by Lesnar on the weekend so he shouldn't really have a reason to come out here. Accept that you got beat and find something else to do. So, this is basically the reason why Big Show came out. To get beat up again to show how dominant Brock Lesnar is. I can't really see any other reason why that would happen.

Reigns/Ambrose/Orton vs. Wyatts - I'm not sure if I'm happy or mad about this. I like the Wyatts and the shield 2.0 fighting again because the match will be good but it feels like there is something missing here. Not sure what it is but it feels like the rotating 3rd person on the Reigns/Ambrose side kind of ruins the contiunity of things. I'd love to see someone finally join the "new shield" or whatever they want to call it so that even if they do a lot of singles matches and what not that they still have the stable to rely on as a consistent thing. I like Orton but he doesn't fit in this rivalry. Wow, Stroman is strong. Catching a 150 pound guy is impressive but catching a 200+ pound guy like Ambrose is even crazier. Whoa, Reigns picked up Harper. That's 300 pounds. That was a pretty entertaining match. I also liked the ending. RKO then a spear. Also sounds like they are trying to wrap the Reigns vs Bray Wyatt rivalry.

Neville vs. Sheamus - I love the "You look stupid" chants. It's so true. He has looked stupid for a long time. Who braids their beard? Braided beard and a mohawk? Ridiculous. I do kind of like that Neville took the cheat shot to start the match. Although, that didn't really do him any good. 1 brogue kick and Neville lost. I'm interested at what is going on with Barrett. He is a pretty good actor if that was an accident. Most "accident" lies are done pretty badly and aren't believeable. I guess nothing is happening with that yet....

Ugh, now Kane is "normal" again. This storyline is getting worse and worse. Either make him masked Kane or leave him as corporate Kane and be done with it. To be fair, the comedy portions are okay when Kane makes his jokes but other than that this story is stupid. Now Stephanie McMahon is coming out to make it even worse. Wow, cheap pop for Stephanie.... really? That's pathetic. Leave that for someone else. And there it is. Kane vs Rollins in Hell in a Cell for the Heavyweight Title. So disappointing. At least the stipulation is interesting. If Rollins wins (which he should) then corporate Kane is gone. And if the match is Hell in a Cell then no DQ which means no cheaping out by having Kane win by DQ but Rollins keeps the title. At least there is a light at the end of the tunnel on this one.

Natalya vs. Paige - I'm actually really liking this little feud they have going on. It seems like it was actually a fairly natural feud. Paige called out Natalya for basically not being around and then Natalya schools Paige a little bit for the things Paige has been doing. It actually feels like this developed for real. Obviously it didn't but still one of the more natural feuds in recent memory. Better than someone running in and interfering in a match and that turning into a 3 month feud. I never really liked those. Plus, I think these 2 can have some good matches together. Natalya is a bit old school being a "Hart" and Paige is pretty new school. I just hope no one interferes in this rivalry and ruins the match finishes. I want to see one of them win over the other, even if it is by cheating or other means I want clean finishes. Just like that one! Clean submission win. No nonsense with people running out or anything.

Kevin Owens vs Sin Cara - looking forward to watching Sin Cara get beat down. Maybe he'll slip on the ropes again and Kevin Owens can beat him even faster. I should find a YouTube video that chronicles how often Sin Cara messes up. I think he has his own Botchamania episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIbQZzMrRV4 is the best I could find. There is no commentary but just watch his body language. It's like he doesn't give a crap. To be fair, when he does moves properly (like he has in this match so far) he looks good. However, when you botch as often as Sin Cara does you build a reputation for botching. They stopped his entrance because of how many times he botched it. And he lost to Owens (shock! ). Ryback to the rescue! He's my hero! I hope those 2 are fighting in Hell in a Cell. That would be an awesome match.

Dudley Boyz vs Rollins/Kane - here is a match that doesn't make any sense. Why would these 2 teams fight each other? Absolutely no reason I can see except for some strange end to the match to push the Rollins vs Kane feud. Other than that there is no reason for this match. And the match actually lasted through a commercial break. And they are actually having these 2 guys work together well.... to what end? Haha! He just handcuffed Kane to the ropes. The handcuffs broke.... that is bizarre. What was the point of all that???? I'm so confused by all this. Haha, looks like it was all intentional. That's kind of funny. The match is over because of the table? That's kind of lame. I guess that is technically following the rules. DEMON KANE IS HERE! I'm tired of him being called Demon Kane. This is just the real Kane. The other guy is corporate Kane and the masked guy is Kane. Calling him demon Kane is stupid. Haha, 3D on Kane. That was kind of funny. Run away Rollins! He's going to sit up! So predictable. Rollins through the table. I'd be shocked if people did see that coming a mile away. Not saying I'm mad about what happened but it was so obvious.

Team Bella vs B.A.D. - I'm less skeptical when a divas match comes on. There are actually girls who can wrestle again. It's not just eye candy trying to put together a match. It's wrestlers (for the most part) that are also attractive. I prefer that since WWE is supposed to be wrestling . I don't really like how powty the girls are after they lose though. And the random screeching during the match is also kind of annoying. At least they put on good matches so I can ignore the other annoying things.

Ugh, Summer Rae is in the ring. This is going to be painful. And now Rusev is out there. Baha, a USA chant . "Ruru".... [gag]. This video is painful to watch. Of course it is supposed to be but I could barely watch the screen. Someone please ruin this! Please! Come on..... this is taking too long. Ruin it! Please! Please! Please! HAHAHAHAHA. She ruined it herself! Is she propsing???? This is seriously way too bad. I'm laughing at how bad this is. They are ruining Rusev. This guy shouldn't be getting proposed to. This guy should be beating the crap out of people all over the place. Kick her in the face! That would be awesome. They won't let him do that of course but that would make this segment even better . Say no! Oh no . He said Yes. That is awful. Oh.... haha. He wants a title before he marries her. I guess that makes sense in some bizarro world. What a brutal 5 minutes. Couldn't they come up with anything better than that? Give a match extra time rather than doing stupid stuff like this!

Looks like Cena is getting the main event spot. That's a bit of a surprise. He usually has an earlier spot on the card. Ziggler! I actually kind of hope that Ziggler gets the title. Although, he isn't actually coming out..... uh why did they beat up Ziggler? I wanted Ziggler vs Cena. Langston vs Cena won't be nearly as good. I mean, the match is good enough but Ziggler would have been better. And Cena retains.... obviously. And here comes Ziggler to help. That's kind of nice. Dudleyz are going to come down next. I was expecting them before Ziggler honestly. I actually hope that this creates a rivalry between Cena and Ziggler because of that super kick. They could put on some good matches. New Day just got a big moment in the main event of Raw. I'm not a big fan of the new day but they deserve the push. They've been pretty good recently.

I have to say, yet another solid Raw. I think I've said this a few times now but the consistency of the show is nice. Glad that Raw has stopped being disappointing.
Raw - Oct 5th

Nice! Brock Lesnar starting the show! Here comes the pain! (I guess they don't say that anymore). And I love having Paul Heyman on the mic. Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker in Hell in a Cell is going to be insane. I wonder if they are going to let Undertaker get even with Brock or if this is going to be the end of Undertaker in WWE. I can't really see too many more matches for the Undertaker at this point. So it sounds like they are really trying to bill this as the final fight for them. I hope so. I like their matches but the time is up for this rivalry. And here comes the Big Show. Not sure why he's coming out here. He got beat up by Lesnar on the weekend so he shouldn't really have a reason to come out here. Accept that you got beat and find something else to do. So, this is basically the reason why Big Show came out. To get beat up again to show how dominant Brock Lesnar is. I can't really see any other reason why that would happen.

Reigns/Ambrose/Orton vs. Wyatts - I'm not sure if I'm happy or mad about this. I like the Wyatts and the shield 2.0 fighting again because the match will be good but it feels like there is something missing here. Not sure what it is but it feels like the rotating 3rd person on the Reigns/Ambrose side kind of ruins the contiunity of things. I'd love to see someone finally join the "new shield" or whatever they want to call it so that even if they do a lot of singles matches and what not that they still have the stable to rely on as a consistent thing. I like Orton but he doesn't fit in this rivalry. Wow, Stroman is strong. Catching a 150 pound guy is impressive but catching a 200+ pound guy like Ambrose is even crazier. Whoa, Reigns picked up Harper. That's 300 pounds. That was a pretty entertaining match. I also liked the ending. RKO then a spear. Also sounds like they are trying to wrap the Reigns vs Bray Wyatt rivalry.

Neville vs. Sheamus - I love the "You look stupid" chants. It's so true. He has looked stupid for a long time. Who braids their beard? Braided beard and a mohawk? Ridiculous. I do kind of like that Neville took the cheat shot to start the match. Although, that didn't really do him any good. 1 brogue kick and Neville lost. I'm interested at what is going on with Barrett. He is a pretty good actor if that was an accident. Most "accident" lies are done pretty badly and aren't believeable. I guess nothing is happening with that yet....

Ugh, now Kane is "normal" again. This storyline is getting worse and worse. Either make him masked Kane or leave him as corporate Kane and be done with it. To be fair, the comedy portions are okay when Kane makes his jokes but other than that this story is stupid. Now Stephanie McMahon is coming out to make it even worse. Wow, cheap pop for Stephanie.... really? That's pathetic. Leave that for someone else. And there it is. Kane vs Rollins in Hell in a Cell for the Heavyweight Title. So disappointing. At least the stipulation is interesting. If Rollins wins (which he should) then corporate Kane is gone. And if the match is Hell in a Cell then no DQ which means no cheaping out by having Kane win by DQ but Rollins keeps the title. At least there is a light at the end of the tunnel on this one.

Natalya vs. Paige - I'm actually really liking this little feud they have going on. It seems like it was actually a fairly natural feud. Paige called out Natalya for basically not being around and then Natalya schools Paige a little bit for the things Paige has been doing. It actually feels like this developed for real. Obviously it didn't but still one of the more natural feuds in recent memory. Better than someone running in and interfering in a match and that turning into a 3 month feud. I never really liked those. Plus, I think these 2 can have some good matches together. Natalya is a bit old school being a "Hart" and Paige is pretty new school. I just hope no one interferes in this rivalry and ruins the match finishes. I want to see one of them win over the other, even if it is by cheating or other means I want clean finishes. Just like that one! Clean submission win. No nonsense with people running out or anything.

Kevin Owens vs Sin Cara - looking forward to watching Sin Cara get beat down. Maybe he'll slip on the ropes again and Kevin Owens can beat him even faster. I should find a YouTube video that chronicles how often Sin Cara messes up. I think he has his own Botchamania episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIbQZzMrRV4 is the best I could find. There is no commentary but just watch his body language. It's like he doesn't give a crap. To be fair, when he does moves properly (like he has in this match so far) he looks good. However, when you botch as often as Sin Cara does you build a reputation for botching. They stopped his entrance because of how many times he botched it. And he lost to Owens (shock! ). Ryback to the rescue! He's my hero! I hope those 2 are fighting in Hell in a Cell. That would be an awesome match.

Dudley Boyz vs Rollins/Kane - here is a match that doesn't make any sense. Why would these 2 teams fight each other? Absolutely no reason I can see except for some strange end to the match to push the Rollins vs Kane feud. Other than that there is no reason for this match. And the match actually lasted through a commercial break. And they are actually having these 2 guys work together well.... to what end? Haha! He just handcuffed Kane to the ropes. The handcuffs broke.... that is bizarre. What was the point of all that???? I'm so confused by all this. Haha, looks like it was all intentional. That's kind of funny. The match is over because of the table? That's kind of lame. I guess that is technically following the rules. DEMON KANE IS HERE! I'm tired of him being called Demon Kane. This is just the real Kane. The other guy is corporate Kane and the masked guy is Kane. Calling him demon Kane is stupid. Haha, 3D on Kane. That was kind of funny. Run away Rollins! He's going to sit up! So predictable. Rollins through the table. I'd be shocked if people did see that coming a mile away. Not saying I'm mad about what happened but it was so obvious.

Team Bella vs B.A.D. - I'm less skeptical when a divas match comes on. There are actually girls who can wrestle again. It's not just eye candy trying to put together a match. It's wrestlers (for the most part) that are also attractive. I prefer that since WWE is supposed to be wrestling . I don't really like how powty the girls are after they lose though. And the random screeching during the match is also kind of annoying. At least they put on good matches so I can ignore the other annoying things.

Ugh, Summer Rae is in the ring. This is going to be painful. And now Rusev is out there. Baha, a USA chant . "Ruru".... [gag]. This video is painful to watch. Of course it is supposed to be but I could barely watch the screen. Someone please ruin this! Please! Come on..... this is taking too long. Ruin it! Please! Please! Please! HAHAHAHAHA. She ruined it herself! Is she propsing???? This is seriously way too bad. I'm laughing at how bad this is. They are ruining Rusev. This guy shouldn't be getting proposed to. This guy should be beating the crap out of people all over the place. Kick her in the face! That would be awesome. They won't let him do that of course but that would make this segment even better . Say no! Oh no . He said Yes. That is awful. Oh.... haha. He wants a title before he marries her. I guess that makes sense in some bizarro world. What a brutal 5 minutes. Couldn't they come up with anything better than that? Give a match extra time rather than doing stupid stuff like this!

Looks like Cena is getting the main event spot. That's a bit of a surprise. He usually has an earlier spot on the card. Ziggler! I actually kind of hope that Ziggler gets the title. Although, he isn't actually coming out..... uh why did they beat up Ziggler? I wanted Ziggler vs Cena. Langston vs Cena won't be nearly as good. I mean, the match is good enough but Ziggler would have been better. And Cena retains.... obviously. And here comes Ziggler to help. That's kind of nice. Dudleyz are going to come down next. I was expecting them before Ziggler honestly. I actually hope that this creates a rivalry between Cena and Ziggler because of that super kick. They could put on some good matches. New Day just got a big moment in the main event of Raw. I'm not a big fan of the new day but they deserve the push. They've been pretty good recently.

I have to say, yet another solid Raw. I think I've said this a few times now but the consistency of the show is nice. Glad that Raw has stopped being disappointing.
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Yay finally a WWE discussion thread! Way better than making short threads related to WWE. Great way to stay updated and talk about what happened.

I agree with tornadocam on the Undertaker vs Lesnar feud since it is getting old to me. With Undertaker's past due condition at the moment, I feel like it really has gone downhill at this point where the WWE Universe doesn't even care anymore. I agree with Paul Heyman on the mic since he can really talk the talk for Lesnar while Lesnar can do his own muscle work. Haven't seen a Big Show vs Lesnar rivalry since 2002 and it feels like ages since I last saw them wrestle in the ring. I really hate how they left out the part where Heyman was the one who helped Big Show win his match against Lesnar during Survivor Series 2002. I mean what is up with WWE leaving out the rest of the information on their past history?

Reigns/Ambrose/Orton definitely seems like the Shield 2.0 like you said. Orton was just placed with 2/3 of the Shield members like he had nowhere else to go. Even if Reigns vs Bray Wyatt end their feud with each other, where will Reigns go? I feel like Reigns still needs some improvement even though he is slowly improving from the last time I heard him on the mic.

Neville vs Sheamus is way better than Neville vs Stardust in their superhero vs super villain battle. Such a shame that Neville had so much hype when he first debuted and now he is mixed up in the lower-mid card status. The crowd makes everything so much better or worse! It shows how much they can liven up or boo up matches with their energy.

Rollins has somehow been winning with "miracles" so far good with the DQs going on for every passing PPV as it seems. I like the Kane gimmick right now but Kane looks so misused right now that I begin to question if that person really is Kane. I agree with your result prediction for Hell In A Cell.

I am really liking the Natalya vs Paige feud. The starting of where Paige did her "pipebomb" was a good setup to go against Natalya despite of the fact that she was saying the truth. It feels so great to see a feud without the random flip flops to singles matches or triple threat matches with these women. It feels so much natural than artificial! I really hope that this feud goes out well. I have such at least good expectations for these two.

Kevin Owens vs Sin Cara = meh to me, it is just a random match up to me. So why is Sin Cara here again after the endless botches that he has done? 2 big monster powerhouses. Where are these two men going with this feud? I like Kevin Owens but I feel like he should be feuding someone else. Ryback is at most decent to me. Please do not feed me more!

Dudley Boyz vs Rollins and Kane was just a random set up that makes no sense at all which I agree with you there.

Team BAD vs Bella Twins = good for the storyline but the wrestling is just.......eh. Bella Twins still can't wrestle or act for their dear lives or last wishes. Help. I really hate the stereotypical screeching/screams/cat calling/terror screams or whatever they call. It makes women look bad in fighting in general especially along with the bad acting when they lose. Well I need to go back to WWE NXT to watch the great matches that don't involve the terrible screeching.

To make sense in this case, the New Day is trying to get their whole team filled with titles. Kevin Owens will obviously break them in half and eat them for breakfast in a 3 vs 1 handicap match. DANGER DANGER! So let's go with the stereotypical good vs evil and their opposing force has to be Cena. I see that the New Day will be picking on the Dudley Boyz and Cena for a while. I like how the New Day is being portrayed as, and they are slowly growing onto me. It really fits their gimmick well. Save the tables!

Hopefully you have been watching WWE NXT.
Yay finally a WWE discussion thread! Way better than making short threads related to WWE. Great way to stay updated and talk about what happened.

I agree with tornadocam on the Undertaker vs Lesnar feud since it is getting old to me. With Undertaker's past due condition at the moment, I feel like it really has gone downhill at this point where the WWE Universe doesn't even care anymore. I agree with Paul Heyman on the mic since he can really talk the talk for Lesnar while Lesnar can do his own muscle work. Haven't seen a Big Show vs Lesnar rivalry since 2002 and it feels like ages since I last saw them wrestle in the ring. I really hate how they left out the part where Heyman was the one who helped Big Show win his match against Lesnar during Survivor Series 2002. I mean what is up with WWE leaving out the rest of the information on their past history?

Reigns/Ambrose/Orton definitely seems like the Shield 2.0 like you said. Orton was just placed with 2/3 of the Shield members like he had nowhere else to go. Even if Reigns vs Bray Wyatt end their feud with each other, where will Reigns go? I feel like Reigns still needs some improvement even though he is slowly improving from the last time I heard him on the mic.

Neville vs Sheamus is way better than Neville vs Stardust in their superhero vs super villain battle. Such a shame that Neville had so much hype when he first debuted and now he is mixed up in the lower-mid card status. The crowd makes everything so much better or worse! It shows how much they can liven up or boo up matches with their energy.

Rollins has somehow been winning with "miracles" so far good with the DQs going on for every passing PPV as it seems. I like the Kane gimmick right now but Kane looks so misused right now that I begin to question if that person really is Kane. I agree with your result prediction for Hell In A Cell.

I am really liking the Natalya vs Paige feud. The starting of where Paige did her "pipebomb" was a good setup to go against Natalya despite of the fact that she was saying the truth. It feels so great to see a feud without the random flip flops to singles matches or triple threat matches with these women. It feels so much natural than artificial! I really hope that this feud goes out well. I have such at least good expectations for these two.

Kevin Owens vs Sin Cara = meh to me, it is just a random match up to me. So why is Sin Cara here again after the endless botches that he has done? 2 big monster powerhouses. Where are these two men going with this feud? I like Kevin Owens but I feel like he should be feuding someone else. Ryback is at most decent to me. Please do not feed me more!

Dudley Boyz vs Rollins and Kane was just a random set up that makes no sense at all which I agree with you there.

Team BAD vs Bella Twins = good for the storyline but the wrestling is just.......eh. Bella Twins still can't wrestle or act for their dear lives or last wishes. Help. I really hate the stereotypical screeching/screams/cat calling/terror screams or whatever they call. It makes women look bad in fighting in general especially along with the bad acting when they lose. Well I need to go back to WWE NXT to watch the great matches that don't involve the terrible screeching.

To make sense in this case, the New Day is trying to get their whole team filled with titles. Kevin Owens will obviously break them in half and eat them for breakfast in a 3 vs 1 handicap match. DANGER DANGER! So let's go with the stereotypical good vs evil and their opposing force has to be Cena. I see that the New Day will be picking on the Dudley Boyz and Cena for a while. I like how the New Day is being portrayed as, and they are slowly growing onto me. It really fits their gimmick well. Save the tables!

Hopefully you have been watching WWE NXT.
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